4/4     The new South Park episode (S9E2) is pretty cool. They portrayed
        Prius Hybrid fanatics and San Franciscan smug pretty well. The
        portrayal of SF's attitude of "We are progressives so we're smarter
        and better than everyone else" attitude is pretty funny. Good job,
        jolly good show.
        \_ Why do South Park San Franciscans like to smell their own
           fart? Is it to show that they're so eco-conscious that
           they'll take in their own pollutions (meaning San Franciscans
           are crazy and full of shit), or does it have other
           subtle meanings?
           \_ The lead-in for the joke was that they're so smug they think
              their own farts smell good.
        \_ But we ARE better than everyone else!   That's all right,
           I can take the ribbing.
        \_ Every time someone mentions South Park, I consider buying a TV again,
           but every time I go past to the thrift store I just can't part
           with the ten bucks.
        \_ Every time someone mentions South Park, I consider buying a TV
           again, but every time I go past to the thrift store I just can't
           part with the ten bucks.
           \_ TVs are usually more than 10 bucks, and Comedy Channel
              is more than $10 bucks thanks to our monopolized cable
              television that bundles a lot of other crap you don't need.
           \_ Then you'd have to pay for cable ($40+) a month too.
           \_ Do what the rest of the world does, torrent the eps.
              \_ any pointers on how to find torret files?
                 \_ http://mrtwig.net
           \_ Or purchase the episodes on iTunes. -dans
        \_ Minor correction, it's S10E2

4/4     You've seen images of gorgeous female school teachers raping
        little boys right? Now here's a female school teacher I wouldn't
        want to be raped by:
        http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/04/teacher.sex/index.html
        \_ What kind of images do you spend your time trolling the internet
           for? -dans
           \_ I look for PNGs of hot mature 19 year olds that I can
              share my resources with.
              \_ That's fucked up.  Picking up 19 year olds on the internet?
                 What do you do, troll LiveJournal and Myspace? -dans
        \_ Is that the same one where the teacher had sex with a 15 year
           old TWENTY SEVEN times within 1 week? (see http://www.smokinggun.com
           Maybe related to der furious?

4/4     I am glad I don't live in the suburbs where thing like this happen:
        http://csua.org/u/ffh
        \_ The chance of this happening is /1000 than the chance of your
           kid doing acid or weed in the city.
           \_ You think there's not a similar or greater chance of your kid
              doing acid or weed in the burbs?
           \_ I'm glad you compare being murdered with doing acid and weed.
              It really helps bring out the crazy.
           \_ ooh yeah, kids in the suburbs never do weed
           \_ You missed Frontline last night; the odds of this happening
              are 1/1000th the chance of the same kid getting hooked on Meth
              in the 'burbs.
        \_ Bitter. Young. Poor. Single. Carless. Sardine.
           \_ Huh?  Enthusiastic, young, well-off, 10 year relationship, 2
              cars, big apartment.  -John (not op)
              \_ Old, foreign, !op, DINK.
        \_ I'm not sure why people are making this a suburb vs. city debate,
           and basing it on spurious anecdotal arguments.  If the posters
           above actually care about this, why doesn't someone find statistics
           on homicide and drug crimes in the city vs. suburbs, scaled per
           capita to account for population differences. -dans
           \_ Another reason this "debate" is silly is that no one is bothering
              to define what they mean by suburb or city.  It's like the
              richest counties list that someone posted that showed that the
              richest counties are all in the West, where counties are the
              size of eastern states.  But all that is beside the point.  The
              point is that this is just another battle in the Great American
              Culture war, and that there are people on both sides on the motd
              who hate each other.  This is just another excuse for us to snipe,
              and I appreciate it.  I don't actually deal with the other side
              in the culture wars in my daily life, so the chance to tell
              someone like Dim to go fuck himself is a golden opportunity for
              me.
              who hate each other.  This is just another excuse for us to
              snipe, and I appreciate it.  I don't actually deal with the
              other side in the culture wars in my daily life, so the chance
              to tell someone like Dim to go fuck himself is a golden
              opportunity for me.
              \_ It's shocking that both sides are so out of touch with
                 reality that someone needs to formally define the difference
                 between a suburb and a city before a reasonable discussion
                 can take place.  Hmm, maybe this is something that can bring
                 the two sides together!  Either both sides are smart and
                 utterly, totally disingenuous and intellectually dishonest,
                 or both sides are absurdly petty naive and stupid!  Awesome!
                 -dans
                 \_ You're ignoring my second point, which is that reasonable
                    discussion is not the goal here.
                    \_ You're ignoring my point that you're either a liar or
                       a fool so I'm not interested in either of your points.
                       -dans
           \_ Pft.  What fun would actually *knowing* be?
              \_ Good point.  I stand corrected. -dans

4/4     Ax, this ones for you (NWS):
        http://www.virob.com/virob/flash/57.html
        \_ These are for Ax too:
                http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6018/ali234c7nq.gif
                http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5803/ali23c3dk.gif
                http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/365/ali2c7tx.gif
                http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3075/alic9bf.gif
                \_ Thanks motd!!  -ax
                \_ That's... disturbing. I was honestly wondering if my
                   glasses were skewed.

4/4     Internet Argument-Losing Bingo
        http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html
        \_ Your link is ghey.
           \_ Not really, I thought it was funny.
              \_ Your link is ghey.
              \_ He's allowing you to fill in a space on your BINGO card!
                 \_ Get a life.

4/4     BootCamp for x86 Macs:
        http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp
        Now you can easily install XP on your x86 Mac.
        [ Why was this deleted? ]
          \_ Maybe it was deemed insufficiently political and of too much
             technical value for the Political Science Undergraduate
             Association motd. -dans
             \_ -4 hp for weak trolling
                \_ Nah, I have +4 armour against troll-slaying weapons. -dans
        \_ This is awesome!  I'm really glad Apple is supporting this.

4/5     Run your own virtual country:
        http://nationstates.net
        \_ civ1,2,3,4
           \_ Check it out, man.  It's not comparable to civ.
           \_ Check it out, man.  It's not really comparable to civ.
        \_ Ok I started this but it seems kind of pointless. I don't feel
           involved. I guess I'm supposed to come up with the most clever
           flag/name/motto and make cute forum posts. Oh well, at least it
           requires minimal effort.
        \_ This is, what, three years old? Also, it's amusing, but it grows
           old quick. Better effort would have resulted in online Diplomacy.

4/5     Jon Kuroda, is this you? It looks like you. A very handsome you are.
        http://tinyurl.com/r9qug (http://www.gay.com
        \_ Cool, another doppleganger.  Alas, as with the guy on the
           SF Gay Pride magazine cover some years back, I don't have
           that sort of build.  Besides, my hair is much longer, I'm
           bit taller but skinnier, and I'm not 35.  Oh, and while I
           do hail from OC, I don't live there.  -Jon
           bit taller but weigh less, and I'm not 35.  Oh, and while
           I do hail from OC, I don't live there.  -Jon

4/2     "...He promised that if elected, he would put illegal immigrants
         in a tent city on the border and use their labor to build the
         wall. Goldwater is a nephew of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater."
        "Minuteman leaders have said that all the group's members have
         been screened to weed out members of racist organizations."
        http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/01/minutemen.return.ap

4/5     http://www.zefhemel.com/archives/2004/08/16/why-java-sucks
        Just wondering if java-philes might agree with some of the
        sentiments listed (being a c++ person myself)
        \_ Java sucks for many reasons.  C++ sucks for many more.
           \_ I think C++ will be around and useful long after Java has
              gone to the grave. I'm not saying C++ is great, by the way.
        \_ The author is right on some issues but given how very wrong
           he is on others I suspect he is right more on accident than
           he is on others I suspect he is right more by accident than
           anything else.  Yes there is a large domain that encompasses
           J2EE development, and a senior engineer needs to know them.
           That's what being a senior engineer is all about.  You think
           people get these kinds of salaries cause they look sexy in
           suspenders and grease stained tshirts?  Yes there are lots
           of Java libaraies out there, the horror!

4/5     Has anyone lived through Japan's winter? Is insulation there
        as bad as what people say it is (walls have the R value
        equivanlent of wet papers)?
        \_ Outside of Hokkaido, the insulation is terrible. I often used
           to wake up in the morning to an apartment so cold I could see my
           breath-- and I lived in the south, where it was supposed to be
           warmer.
        \_ Yes.  My girlfriend spent 3 months there (Feb-Apr) and was
           freezing most of the time.  I was there in Mar/Apr (Tokyo and
           surroundings & Kyoto) and it was still pretty chilly, although
           not terribly so.  -John
        \_ No. No one has lived through Japan's winter.
           \_ Those wily japanese folks must breed like rabbits...

4/1     Got this email from Etrade saying that based on my Etrade banking
        activities I'm now qualified as a special trader and can trade
        stocks for a very low price. "To continue your exclusive status
         beyond next quarter, just maintain a $50,000 combined balance in
         linked E*TRADE Securities and E*TRADE Bank accounts or execute 30
         or more stock or options trades by the end of the quarter."
        Thirty stocks? What? Fuck Etrade Bank and fuck Etrade stocks.
        \_ Special deals for rich people and day traders.  What's the big deal?
        \_ And if you want to transfer the money out of your account (i.e.,
           close it) E-Trade will happily charge you a $100 transfer fee.
           Buyer beware.
        \_ I dumped etrade for scottrade/(datek->ameritrade) a few years
           ago.  etrade is more expensive and service is worse, and they
           often screw things up.
        \_ E*Trade is better than some other brokerages out there.
           E*Trade is not that bad.  Also, the offer above says OR.

4/5     Baby got back -- anime version
        http://www.virob.com/virob/videos/653.html  -John
        \_ That's awesome!  Thanks for posting!         -mice
        \_ Significantly NSFW depending on how isolated your screen is.

4/3     http://www.flickr.com/photos/thefartparty/83061980/in/photostream
        Yeah, girls hate nerds.

4/5     http://csua.org/u/fft (azdailysun.com)
        Son of Arizona Senate president (Republican) offered plea agreement
        that may net little jail time.  Charged with assault and kidnapping
        of eighteen 11- to 14-year-old boys -- sodomizing each with broomsticks
        and flashlights at summer camp.
        "The 18 boys were chosen to attend the weeklong student government
        leadership skills camp in Prescott because they were among the state's
        top student leaders."
        \_ I for one welcome our new Republican pedophile overlords!
        \_ 'The letter said Bennett was an honor student and active member of
           the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who plans to go on a
           mission in September.  "A felony conviction for assault will make
           his desire to complete his mission impossible," they wrote.'
           Oh noes!  This felony conviction for fucking up 11 to 14-year-old
           boys could get in the way of this young man's desires?  For shame!
           \_ Well you know, boys will be boys.
           \_ Scumbag lawyers.  I'm pretty sure that kid won't be gonig on a
              mission.  Indeed, that kind of thing may lead to excommunication.
              And that's a good thing. -emarkp
        \_ Whoah, whoah whoah.  Umm the story I read had no "sodomizing"
           involved, merely bumping the rear ends of fully CLOTHED victims,
           more the kind of stupid hazing shit young boys will do than
           anything else.  Has the story changed?
           \_ I have read that every single Japanese schoolboy is obsessed
              with shoving his fingers up his male classmate's ass.
              I have seen video games about this.
           \_ Answering my own post: yes the story has changed ... this story
              is different from the version I read.

4/5     http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/chldprn/fladoyle32806cr2.html
        Dept of Homeland Security Deputy Press Secretary Brian J. Doyle charged
        with 23 felony counts involving Internet pr0n, Bill O'Reilly style
        telephone conversations with a detective posing as a 14-year-old girl.
        I knew I recognized his name from somewhere ...
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Air_Marshal_Service
        \_ Remember, the reason that we need to stop bitching about all this
           Civil Liberties crap is because the people who work to protect our
           nation's security are 100% trustworthy!  Checks and balances are for
           blocking Congress' power, not executive power.  Oh, and atheists..
           remember, they're neither citizens or patriots.
                \_ People who don't believe in fairy tales cannot be fully
                   trusted.
           \_ Maybe you missed the core concept here: he got caught and busted
              not protected and excused.  You want checks and balances, you got
              them.  This guy is now in jail.  What more could you want?  I
              know ebing knee-jerk is more fun, but really.
              \_ And you miss his core concept.  He's saying we _actually do_
                 have to worry about our civil liberties and abuses thereof
                 is that people like this are in the machine.  His argument
                 is not with you.  His argument is with the president and his
                 "Trust me" argument.  That this guy was caught doesn't make
                 the system any more trustworthy.
                 Funny fact: Do you know he's the third DHS employee in the
                 last three months arrested for sex-with-children charges?
                 \_ Oh no, I understood his point perfectly.  You again miss
                    mine.  People are people.  Any system will always have fuck
                    heads like that guy in it.  That's why we have other people
                    looking for people like that and when they're found they
                    get tossed in prison and never get put in any position of
                    trust ever again.  What system could you possibly create
                    that wouldn't require some level of trust of the people
                    who run it and would magically pre-filter fuck heads out
                    before they commit a crime?  In this case there was no
                    victim because he was caught and filtered before he found
                    a *real* 14 year old girl (as far as we know).  And now
                    he's a dead man and rightly so.  The system worked.  I see
                    no problem here.
                    \_ I, and the previous poster, are not saying "we need to/
                       can make the system trustworthy."  We are speaking to
                       the President's claim that his actions (warrantless
                       wiretaps, extraordinary rendition, et.al.) are
                       implicitly trustworthy.  As you say, the system worked
                       to catch this guy.  What we're talking about are the
                       systems that have recently been constructed that don't
                       have the necessary checks.
                       \_ you missed the big one: label someone as
                          "enemy combatent" and lock them in torture
                          chamber somewhere in Egypt/Pakistan and doesn't allow
                          Red Cross to examine them :p
                    \_ That's right every system will have fuckups and
                       criminals and power hungry bastards which is why when
                       Bush starts talking about the "unitary executive" and
                       being able to ignore any law Congress passed because
                       he's on a never-ending quest to rid the world of terra,
                       and ignore any court oversight too, people start to
                       worry about "the system" no longer policiing itself
                       worry about "the system" no longer policing itself
                       properly.

4/5     A few days ago someone asked for technical details for BART's fuckup.
        Here it is: http://www.bart.gov/news/press/news20060405.asp
        \_ well, they seem well-intentioned.  I don't think anyone's
           about to boycott Bart because of the downtime anyway.
           \_ In one of those links posted I found it interesting to read that
              one of BART's design goals is that a technical incident that
              causes the shutdown of all trains for more than 5 seconds is
              supposed to occur with a mean frequency of no more than once in
              20,000 service hours.  I think if you count the recent screwups
              as a single incident, they probably meet that goal.  Individual
              trains obviously fail more often though.

4/5     Desperately looking for a new co-lo site that gives you cgi, php,
        and unlimited email forwarding (you provide your own domain name).
        Cheap and reliable. SSH/shell is a must.
        \_ I think you mean (possibly shared) virtual hosting, not colo.  I
           know a number of people who are happy with Dreamhost and TextDrive.
           -dans

4/5     Harry Reid, 12 years ago
        http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1hr.htm
        \_ what, no child molestation charges??

4/5     There's no discussion on Apple being able to run MS Windows??
        \_ I'm honestly not sure if it's a good idea or not.  Now when wonky
           incompatibilities come up, (Such as MS powerpoint conflicts between
           Mac and XP) Mac users may be expected to fix it themselves.  Which
           leads to greater hassle, which leads to more windows use, etc.
           \_ Mac's being capable of running windows is one thing, M$
              supporting this configuration is an entirelly different story.
              \_ I'm not sure how this relates to what I said. -pp
        \_ How does it work?  A Mac with an Intel CPU is still not a PC.  I'd
           think that the BIOS, bus architecture, etc. are still different from
           what's in the PC architecture.  How does XP for x86 run on that?
           \_ Product is called "Boot Camp" if you want to search the web.
              \_ See below. I posted a link to the d/l site at http://apple.com
                 this morning.
                 Re How does this work: Apple uses EFI which is like bios
                 w/ some of the nicer bits of OF thrown in. The Intel chip
                 set that Apple is currently using is sufficiently similar
                 to PC chipsets that it is possible to get XP running. Note
                 that Bootcamp provides many of the necessary drivers to
                 get XP running properly.
                 Re Is this a good thing: HELL YES. I can finally play HL2,
                 KOTOR2 and Pirates on my mac, which means that I can chuck
                 my crappy PC. Dual booting isn't that nice, but I used to
                 do it in the OS 9/OS X days to play games, so its not that
                 bad.
                 BTW, 1st BSOD on a iMac:
                 http://images.dealcatcher.com/products/1stbluescreen.jpg

4/4     The new South Park episode (S10E2) is pretty cool. They portrayed
        http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3670346 (sltrib.com)
        Son of Arizona Senate president (Republican) accepts plea agreement
        that may net little jail time.  Charged with assault and kidnapping
        of eighteen 11- to 14-year-old boys -- by forcibly inserting
        broomsticks, mop handles, a flashlight, and a cane into their clothed
        anal crevices (the victims were wearing underwear, swimtrunks, or pants
        at the time) at summer camp.
        "The 18 boys were chosen to attend the weeklong student government
        leadership skills camp in Prescott because they were among the state's
        top student leaders."
        \_ I for one welcome our new Republican pedophile overlords!
        \_ 'The letter said Bennett was an honor student and active member of
           the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who plans to go on a
           mission in September.  "A felony conviction for assault will make
           his desire to complete his mission impossible," they wrote.'
           Oh noes!  This felony conviction for fucking up 11 to 14-year-old
           boys could get in the way of this young man's desires?  For shame!
           \_ Well you know, boys will be boys.
           \_ Scumbag lawyers.  I'm pretty sure that kid won't be gonig on a
              mission.  Indeed, that kind of thing may lead to excommunication.
              And that's a good thing. -emarkp
              \_ I don't think the "lawyers" deserve the most blame.  It is
                 most likely the Dubya-appointed GOP Arizona district attorney
                 doing a favor for the GOP Arizona Senate president.
                 \_ when did the POTUS appoint the DA of Arizona?
                    \_ I believe that may have been a supremely feeble attempt
                       at humour.
              \_ and so he'll join the ranks of those dirty atheists!
              \_ Okay, specifically, I think it's the Dubya-appointed GOP
                 Arizona district attorney doing a favor for the GOP Arizona
                 Senate president
                 http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/az/USAttorney.html
                       I would also say the elected GOP Yavaipai County
                       Attorney also deserves more blame than the "lawyers".
                 and the elected GOP Yavaipai County Attorney
                 http://www.co.yavapai.az.us/departments/Aty/AtyHome.asp
                 http://csua.org/u/ffw (azcentral.com)
                 [corrected]
              \_ Forgiveness: Good enough for Jesus, not good enough for LDS.
                 \_ You don't seem to understand.  Forgiveness entirely
                    possible.  But saying "oops, I'm sorry, can I go on a
                    mission now" doesn't cut it.  Note that Jesus didn't
                    forgive the woman taken in adultery. -emarkp
                    \_ Is excommunication revokable?
                       \_ Yes. -emarkp
        \_ Whoah, whoah whoah.  Umm the story I read had no "sodomizing"
           involved, merely bumping the rear ends of fully CLOTHED victims,
           more the kind of stupid hazing shit young boys will do than
           anything else.  Has the story changed?
           \_ I have read that every single Japanese schoolboy is obsessed
              with shoving his fingers up his male classmate's ass.
              I have seen video games about this.
              \_ That's right. Jamming a lot of people in a little area
                 make them gay. That's why you see more gay people in big
                 cities than say, rural Tennessee or South Carolina.
                 \_ So if the kids had had big butts, this wouldn't make them
                    gay? I'm confused now.
              \_ That's called Kancho.
           \_ Answering my own post: yes the story has changed ... this story
              is different from the version I read.
           \_ Thanks, I have updated the post. -op

4/5     Republicans support, and Democratic objects, bill to cap contributions
        to political groups.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060405/ap_on_go_co/campaign_spending

4/5     http://csua.org/u/ffx (azcentral.com, AP "sodomy" link replaced)

4/5     Democrats object, and Republicans support, bill to cap contributions
        to political groups.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060405/ap_on_go_co/campaign_spending
        \_ It depends on the meaning of "political groups", I guess.
        \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/527_group
           These are groups which advocate an issue (e.g., pro/anti gay
           marriage, pro/anti-choice) as opposed to a traditional candidate
           or political action committee which can advocate a candidate.
           The former had no per-individual cap on contributions; while the
           latter does.  So you have Soros giving $23mill to a Democrat-run
           527, and a Texas developer giving $8mill to Swift Boat Veterans
           for Truth.  The bill now goes to the Senate.
           [Sorry I'm screwing up this explanation ...]
           After McCain-Feingold limits went into effect in 2003 which
           closed off unlimited contributions to political parties, 527s
           are the only thing left for unlimited contributions.  So you
           have Soros giving $23mill to a Democrat-run 527, and a Texas
           developer giving $8mill to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
           The bill now goes to the Senate.
        \_ The parties reversing their roles?

4/5     any online tutorials/exam question for Perl? thanks
        \_ {ajani,darin}@csua.berkeley.edu taught a perl decal class, try
           pinging them. -dans

4/5     http://csua.org/u/fg1 (tboblogs.com)
        Dept. of Homeland Security, head of ICE Tampa office and head of
        ICE Operation Predator (protecting against sexual predators) pleads
        no contest to charges of exposure of sexual organs (to a 16-year-old
        girl who reported the incident) and disorderly conduct (masturbation
        in the mall food court for 10 minutes).
        http://news.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBKPR9ONJE.html
        "after Figueroa fled the scene, two more security officers approached
        him in the parking lot and asked why he was running. He said he was
        trying to find his car."
        (When it rains, it pours ...)
        \_ Republican pedophile trifecta complete!

4/5     Alumni BBQ Thursday, April 20th. 630 pm. Place TBD.  I copied this
        from the CSUA web site.  Please spread the word -dans
        \_ 6:30 on 4/20...there better be lots of food!
           \- that is hitler's bday.
              \_ Hey, at least it's not Nehru's.