Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2006:March:20 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
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2006/3/20 [Uncategorized/Multicategory] UID:42321 Activity:nil
3/20    a while back someone on Motd was asking about force his/her
        cat on Vegie diet completely.  I have talked to my collegue from
        India.  He told me that there are plenty of cat in India who lived on
        pure Vegie diet and milk alone.  So, I guess it can be done.
        \_ Don't feed milk to cats.
2006/3/20-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:42322 Activity:low
3/20    is it possible to set linux to be case insensitivity temporarily?
        \_ The easiest way to do this is to run samba, and access your
           files through smbmount.
        \_ don't have an easy answer but WHY do you want to do this?
        \_ The linux kernel?  Probably no easy way, no.  A linux distribution?
           Which one?  For what application?  Why do you need to do this (there
           might be a better way)  Next time give even LESS information and
           you'll get an even BETTER answer!
        \_ just keep typing in all lower case
2006/3/20-21 [Recreation/Food/Alcohol, Recreation/Food] UID:42323 Activity:nil
3/20    Journal of eating an entire cow:
        \_ zzz. just a bunch of pics of raw cow meat.
2006/3/20-25 [Recreation/Food, Recreation/Food/Alcohol] UID:42324 Activity:nil
3/20    "Michael Pollan is one of the foremost food and plant experts
        in America. He wrote The Botany of Desire a few years ago, he
        teaches about food, plants, and biodiversity at the University
        of California, Berkeley, and he just finished a new book called
        The Omnivore's Dilemma.  It's about eating in the same way
        that the Bible is about God."
2006/3/20-21 [Reference/Tax] UID:42325 Activity:nil
3/20    For those who have lots of capital gains (stocks, etc.), and
        contribute to charity, check out donor advised gift funds
        (Fidelity: Vanguard:  These allow you to
        shield your donated assets from capital gains taxes.  You
        can then redirect your donation to the charities of your
        choice whenever you want.
        If say you donate $10000 stock of which $8000 is capital gains,
        you save taxes worth $1500 compared to selling the stock and
        donating the after-tax amount to charity (assumption: 15%
        captial gains rate and 25% income tax bracket, itemized
        deduction)(calculation: (0.15*8000)+(0.15*8000*0.25)=1500).
        (i.e. $1200 lost to capital gains tax and this $1200 also
        lose its benefit for charitable donation deduction worth
        $300).  Other benefits: you can give your fund your own
        name, or donate anonymously without losing tax savings,
        undistributed funds have several investment choices, etc.
        caveat: $100 or 1% management fee per year, $10000
        to start fund (for Fidelity)         - christian socialist
2006/3/20-21 [Reference/Religion] UID:42326 Activity:high
3/20    Hey tom, we've already established that you think of yourself as
        omnipotent.  Do you also believe yourself to be infallible?  I'm
        thinking I may want to include you as an NPC if I ever run an RP
        campaign again, and am trying to establish if the tom NPC would be a
        god or `just' a demi-god.  TIA. -dans
                                   \_ He could play Tiamat, sure.
        \_ First, you may want to investigate the difference between
           "omnipotent" and "omniscient."
           Second, get a fuckin' life.  Really.  -tom
        \_ don't forget, tom is also omnipresent.  he may be omnivorous too.
           \_ I feel like the rest of us should be paying you two for the
              entertainment you're providing.
              \_ It was entertaining for a while but it's getting old.
                 dans has proven that he's as petty as the person he used to
                 know. tom on the other hand has shown a lot of restraints,
                 without lashing out and rambling. For crying out loud,
                 the incident was many years ago. People change. Move on.
                 \_ Getting old like yermom?  Look, it's the motd.  If you want
                    something new and original, why read a text file edited
                    by the same group of old, grouchy alumni for years and
                    years?  If on the other hand you want decades of yermom
                    jokes, political trolls and insane rants it's nice to have
                    something that never changes.
                    \_ listen you smart ass. I do read other sources for
                       entertainment, like But that gets old too
                       \_ Aaawwwwww. Are we not entertaining you enough?  You
                          want more boob pics?  Flame wars about text editors?
           \_ Ah, thanks for the correction.  One tends to make silly errors
              of that sort when posting at 5 AM.  Mea culpa.  While I've got
              your ear, perhaps you could tell me in your all-knowing wisdom,
              what constitutes a life?  I thought I was doing reasonably for
              myself, what with a circle of wonderful friends, a fantastic SO,
              a busy calendar, and work I love, but, apparently, I am mistaken.
              Please tell me oh wise tom, what must one do to have a life?
              Also, you never answered my question, do you think you're
              infallible? -dans
              \_ Here's a hint, dans. Life is inversely proportional to the
                 amount of trolls you spill. Obviously, tom has a lot more
                 life than you. Get a life.
                 \_ This runs counter to my experience. -dans
              \_ I don't suppose a polite request to take this to email will
              \_ If you have to ask, you don't know.  -tom
                 \_ So that's a yes? -dans
2006/3/20-22 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:42327 Activity:nil
3/20    You know how you can boot a mac with the system install
        cd and make it pretend to be an external firewire drive?
        Is there a way to do this with a PC?  Maybe there
        is a cd I can boot the PC with to do this?
        \_ You don't need a system install cd to do this.  You just hold down
           the `T' key while booting. -dans
2006/3/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:42328 Activity:nil
3/20    If you're going to troll the motd today, please make
        that extra effort and at least try to use proper
        grammar.  I know you like to pretend that you are
        an angry immigrant troll who just moved to Berkeley
        but I know you had to take the TOEFL before being
        admitted so I know you're not a moron.  Thank you.
2006/3/20-22 [Uncategorized] UID:42329 Activity:nil
3/20    TSG has images of all the pot-laced candy products seized in Oakland
        My personal favorites are "Toka-Cola" and "Keef Kat."
2006/3/20-22 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:42330 Activity:nil
3/20    Bought a new property last year. As a preemptive measure I sent out
        a lot of opt-out letters to opt myself out of mailing list. However,
        I'm still getting an enormous amounts of junk mail, and opting out
        is not working. It did in my apartment. Any advice? Thanks.
        \_ More evidence that "preemptive" strike does not work!
        \_ you need to write letter to direct marketing association of
           america and put yourself onto "do not mail" and "do not call"
           list.  This would stop a lot stuff from larger direct marketing
2006/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Reference/Religion] UID:42331 Activity:moderate
3/20    religion of peace - or intolerance?,2933,188364,00.html
        \_ bad decision on the gov.'s part.  best case is they
           should just exile the poor guy.  it sucks that people
           magically pull laws out of their ass and say
           "it's Islamic law!" when it was really only in the hadith,
           not the koran.
        \_ let's kick some middle east butt then
        \_ if you dont believe in islam, you are attacking it
        and therefore you have to die.. paraphrasing the judge
        so.. everyone who is not muslim must die then..
           \_ that explains the 99% muslim rate in afghanistan.
             \_they maintain a 1% hindu population in order
                to maintain their shooting skills
        \_ They'll get what's coming to them after we've exploited
           all their countries' natural resources (e.g., oil)
           - passive aggressive man
           \_ the liberal view is to just wipe them out first
           and then take their oil freely?
        \_ Mission Accomplished!
        \_ From the BBC version:
           "The editor of a women's rights magazine was convicted of insulting
            Islam and sentenced to death last year - but was later released
            after an apology and heavy international pressure."
           Expect a similar result here. Executing apostates would
           significantly undermine Karzai.
2006/3/20-22 [Recreation/Humor] UID:42332 Activity:nil 62%like:42333
3/20    Anyone remember that old comic from Dragon, Yamara?  "More weird than
        funny" indeed.
        \_ "Wormy" was a lot weirder.
           \_ Eh, Wormy wasn't that weird -- it was pretty straightforward
              semi-narrative fantasy.  What made it quirky was the use of
              traditional badguys as the protagonists.  Now, Roman Dirge's
              stuff, or perhaps Jhonen Vazquez's JTHM  *that*  is weird. -mice
              \_ Maybe so, but Yamara was trying to be funny.
                 \_ Yeahhh...the art style on the first page of the Yamara link
                    kind of squicked me out, so I'll take your word for it.
                    Wormy was generally pretty pleasing to the eye
                    (comparatively, at least).                           -mice
                    \_ Yeah, Yamara's art  got more and more busy as time went
                       on. It started out ok, but was pretty much unreadable
                       near the end.  They were just trying to stuff way too
                       much into a few panels.
                       \_ I've been told that Sluggy Freelance is kind of
                          moving in that direction.  I stopped reading it
                          regularly after I was laid off in '01, but people
                          have been telling me that it's gotten progressively
                          busier and takes more work to read.  Oh well.  -mice
                          \_ Ah, but the payoff is richer. The "That Which
                             Redeems" story-arc won awards for the payoff.
                             Cf. Achewood. --erikred
                             \_ Is it?  I mean, I'd be willing to put up
                                with more text etc if the payoff is there,
                                but I've heard for current Sluggy, it's
                                not.  I never quite forgave sluggy for
                                giving the DoP to that Bruno the Bandit guy
                                and his endless stream of scatological
                                humor.                                   -mice
                                \_ I repeat, the "That Which Redeems" arc
                                   was worth it. The "Timeless Seas" arc, well,
                                   not so sure about that one. And yeah, the
                                   DoP guy was definitely Not Funny. They have
                                   a Saturday guy now who's actually funny and
                                   very obviously a fan of the comic. --e-red
                                   \_ Hmm, okay.  I guess I'll give it a try
                                      and see how the 'Elevator to Hell' arc
                                      reads.  Hopefully is doesn't suck.
                                      Thanks for the info!               -mice
           \_ Wormy archive:
2006/3/20 [Recreation/Humor] UID:42333 Activity:nil 62%like:42332
3/20    Anyone else remember that old comic Yamara from Dragon?  It's on the
        internet now... "More wierd than funny" indeed.
2006/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:42334 Activity:high
3/20    How does it make you feel that most employed sodans; expecially
        married ones; make out nicely thanks to the Bush tax cuts. I know
        that it leaves me feeling very ambivalent since I know that the
        system is inherently unfair to average US citizens
        But I also know that, since BA is so over priced, I am just squeaking
        by financially . Having to feel grateful to Bush
        for extra $$ is a strange feeling indeed.
        \_ I dont know what you're smoking but I dont think most of the
           employed sodans are quite rich enough to really benefit from the
           Bush tax cuts.  For that we'd need to be inheriting over $10M
           from an estate, or have a large fraction of our income from
           \_ I agree. If your life is so fulfilling you'd stop using motd
              long time ago. There are so many other places that you can
              get better entertainment, information, therapy, and others
              things than motd. Motd is for losers like me.
        \_ Yeah, Bush has made me a lot of money in the last few years,
           and I feel kind of dirty about it too.  It's not like I'd be
           homeless without his tax cuts, though.  I'd vote for someone
           who would reverse them.
        \_ Are you kidding me? The middle class (especially upper middle
           class) is going to be paying the price of Bush's policies for
           a long time. When some other President (Democrat or Republican)
           has to raise taxes to pay for Bush's antics you won't feel too
           grateful. Bush has been very adept, too, at taking money from
           the blue states (e.g. SF Bay Area) and giving it to the red
           states (e.g. Louisiana, Texas). You are grateful for this?!
           \_ I think he's taken more of a passive approach to the rape
              of CA by Enron (e.g.).  But can you blame TX for CA being so
              dependent on oil?
              \_ So dependent?  Last I checked we were among the best in
                 the nation on energy conservation.  We're a big state, though.
                 I don't blame TX for our dependence.  I blame them for
           \_ Though purportedly CA's getting a big chunk of the war money
              by way of military purchases from many small engineering concerns.
              by way of military purchases from many small engineering
              \_ Maybe, but CA still sends more off to Washington DC than
                 comes back here.
        \_ I've got nothing against tax cuts but what we've got is not really
           a tax cut but rather tax postponement.  All that money you're
           "saving" now?  It's going to come out of your budget later, with
           interest.  --PM
        \_ "I know that the system is inherently unfair to average US citizens"
           So when did you stop beating your wife?
        \_ Mr. Squeaking By Financially: can you tell us a little bit about
           your life?  Like what kind of car you drive, how large your TV
           is, how old your newest home computer is, how much you pay per
           month for TV/internet etc?
           \_ SSN, Mother's Maiden Name, etc.
2006/3/20 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:42335 Activity:nil
3/20    "Americans have never retreated in the face of thugs and assassins
        and we will not begin now."   -GWB
        Uh, what about Vietnam? Bay of Pigs?
2006/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic, Reference/Tax] UID:42336 Activity:moderate
        \_ I've got nothing against tax cuts but what we've got is not really
           a tax cut but rather tax postponement.  All that money you're
           "saving" now?  It's going to come out of your budget later, with
           interest.  --PM
        \_ You realize that most of the conservatives are too bright to
           consider Slate, a left wing propaganda web site, to be a
           fair and balanced source of information?
           \_ The exact details of how the facts were misrepresented is what's
              being reported.  Fair and balanced or not, unless they're
              actually lying, that's pretty damning.
              \_ I think pp was trolling.
        \_ this is 3 years old, dude.
2006/3/20-21 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:42337 Activity:very high
3/20    Why protest the Iraq war?  Why not protest the insurgents who
        are preventing Iraq from being independent and free?
        \_ One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.  By starting the
           war in an illegitimate way, we make it even more obvious who
           are the real terrorists and who are the real freedom fighters.
           \_ People who target children are terrorists.
              \_ There ya go.  Bush is a terrorist then.  Add bombing
                 news organization (a la "Control Room") and bombing
                 weddings, and trying to legitimize torture as crimes
                 against him.  Countless others, no doubt.  Bush is really
                 no different than Osama bin Ladin.  In fact bin Ladin could
                 even be considered the "holier" of the two.
        \_ it's not "insurgent."  it's domestic violence caused by
           foreign al Qaeda operatives.  Iraqis greets us with all the
           flowers they can find in the desert.
        \_ Why don't you get off your ass and organize that protest yourself?
        \_ presumably we have control over our government.  we don't
           have control over the insurgents.
           \_ in a way we do.  We can let the insurgents win.  Or we
              can prevent them from winning.
              \_ Which is why we need to protest the Iraq war. The current
                 methodology there is turning normally law-abiding citizens
                 into insurgents.
                 \_ do you have evidence for it?  I haven't heard of this
                    (law abiding citizens into insurgents).
                    If Iraq is peaceful, US goes away, and everyone should
                    be happy.
                    \_ !pp: If not doing the fighting, supporting it.
                       An insurgency cannot continue without community
                    \_ You don't think kicking in their doors and killing
                       their relatives creates more insurgents? I guess you
                       must have your head buried in the sand or something.
                    \_ You are really fucking stupid and naive.
                       \_ please tell me that Iraqis don't kill innocent
                    \_ That is really stupid and naive.
                        \_ make your case why it is stupid and naive.
        \_ I know you're trolling, but maybe you just got the newest
           RNC talking points email.  It does upset me that the only
           people who have it together enough to organize large
           anti war demonstrations are the Marxist Israel hating
           dumbasses ANSWER.
        \_ Because they may not have started the war, but they seem intent on
           finishing it.
        \_ Iraq *was* independent.  -tom
           \_ so is Cuba.
           \_ Was it also 'free'?
              \_ Define the term.  Iraq's government was very much able to
                 make its own decisions and policies; it was not beholden
                 to outside interests.  People in Iraq probably had more
                 personal freedom than in most Middle Eastern countries;
                 certainly not as much as we enjoy in the U.S., but that's
                 probably not a reasonable metric.  -tom
                 \_ In nuclear chemistry, a piece of a nucleus becomes "free"
                    after significant energy has been "liberated" from the
                    system.  Once we've "liberated" all the energy from the
                    Middle East, it will be free.
                 \_ Personal freedom if the death squads weren't coming
                    after you. You have some weird ideas about freedom.
                    If you mean that they left you alone as long as you
                    were a good worker bee, then sure. I think everyone
                    else impressed by the the scope of their personal freedoms
                    had already been killed or left the country.
                    \_ Heat and noise, but no light.
                       I was comparing to other countries in the Middle
                       East.  They're all bad by our standards.  -tom
                       \_ So? You say yourself that 'our standards' are
                          not a reasonable metric. I'm not sure I'd agree
                          that life under Saddam was better than in most
                          other Middle Eastern countries. He led his
                          country into bloody wars, killed his own people,
                          and filled the government with his cronies. That's
                          not better than, say, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, or
                          most Gulf states. It may be better than Afghanistan
                          and Pakistan, sure.
                    \_ As opposed to the current death squads who will just
                       kill you for being on the other team..  As tom said
                       "not a reasonable metric"...  Seriously, the "we got
                       rid of saddam" rhetoric doesn't fly when we can't do
                       any better.
                       \_ Saddam had decades to make things better. I
                          think 'we' will do a lot better.
                          \_ you ignore two major pieces of evidence:
                             one, we're oh-fer in improving countries
                             by installing U.S.-friendly governments, and
                             two, Iraq is a major clusterfuck.  -tom
                             \_ Would also discount South Korea and
                             \_ Would you also discount South Korea and
                                Japan?  In general, I'd agree with you, but
                                then, many of those governments we
                                installed were reflective of the general
                                dogma of 'containment' in the Cold War.  -mice
                                \_ Japan's situation was not really
                                   analagous.  You might argue Korea.  Yes,
                                   many of the governments we installed were
                                   due to the containment policy, but the fact
                                   is, for the people actually living in those
                                   countries, things tended to stay bad or
                                   get worse once the Red Menace had been
                                   eliminated.  We now have a new containment
                                   policy, explicitly expressed by PNAC,
                                   and it's gonna pretty much suck for anyone
                                   unfortunate enough to get in our way.  -tom
                                \_ I thought for Korea, we just installed
                                   our strong man and let him rule, kind
                                   of like Saddam, and then the Koreans
                                   slowly and peacefuly transformed their
                                   country into the democracy of today.
                                   Perhaps that's what we should have done
                                   with Iraq too?
                                   \_ Germany? Italy? I don't really know what
                                      you would call analagous if not Japan.
                                      We've removed 'bad people' from power
                                      before and made things better.
                                      \_ How are Japan and Korea analogous?
                                         These are MOSTLY passive people in
                                         resource barren lands.  Plus there
                                         was very little history of Western
                                         "corruption" in those lands before
                                         they installed governments.  America
                                         and Europe has colonized / "fucked\
                                         over" the Middle East since the 1900s,
                                         and we wonder why Muslims hate us.
                                         Lastly, we didn't lie to start a war
                                         against another country.  Lying to
                                         start ANY war is despicable in my
                                         opinion, because it pretty much means
                                         that you knew you would never had
                                         gotten support by telling the truth.
                                         People only lie if they have something
                                         to hide, no?  It's pretty obvious
                                         Bush had a lot to hide.  -- !tom
              \_ Is Egypt? How about Pakistan?
                 \_ Compared to Iraq, yes. If you are advocating an
                    invasion, though, you might be able to persuade me.
2006/3/20 [Uncategorized] UID:42338 Activity:nil
3/20    It's to hard for you all imaginary trolling assholes
        to USE ENGRISH GRAMMAR?  Fuck.
2006/3/20 [Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:42339 Activity:nil
3/20    Its to hard; for you all imaginary troling, asshole
        to USE ENGRISH GRAMER?  Fuck,
        \_ Its just about as hard as it is for you to use grammar.
           *Note to self, when being a grammar nazi, use correct grammar*
           \_ note to you: you didn't
2006/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:42340 Activity:kinda low
3/20    Every year we Northern Californians pay a lot of tax to the State
        of California, but how much are we really getting back? Are we
        getting back every dollar we paid to the State in the form of
        mass transit and infrastructure and what not, or are we wasting
        money on projects in the Central Valley and Southern California?
        \_ You're committing the "taxes == fees for services" fallacy.
        \_ High income, economically productive areas like the Bay Area
           always pay higher taxes than the subsidized suburban and rural
           areas. This has been true for a long time, pretty much since
           the Industrial Revolution.
        \_ Considering that most of the population growth has been shifting
           down the past couple years, hopefully this taxe trend will shift.
           down south the past couple years, hopefully this taxe trend will
           shift that way too.
2006/3/20-21 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:42341 Activity:high
        Are most American Christians as stupid as this guy?
        \_ The frightening part of this whole thing is that we "screened",
           armed, and sent this guy into action.
           \_ I used to work with a super-redneck guy from rural Idaho.  When
              he signed up for the Navy during the Vietnam war, he told them
              "I want to go kill some fuckin' commie gooks in vietnam right
               NOW!"  He was totally serious, and he spent the war working
               in a mine factory in Hawaii.  Presumably the recruiters didn't
               want his crazy ass anywhere near the warzone.  So, even in 'nam
               the system worked from time to time.
               want his crazy ass anywhere near the warzone.
        \_ Joe, Jan, Josh, and Justin Johnson?  Yeeeesh.
           \_ lol. funny observation
        \_ Don't generalize Christians like that.  They come in all shapes
           and sizes.  Yes, some are like Joe.  What makes you think he's
           a bad choice for a volunteer army that needs recruits?
           \_ His motives and mental health?
              \_ You don't think most army recruits join to kick some ass?
                 Fire their rifles in battle?  Ever seen Jarhead?
                 \_ Er, I don't think Jarhead is a documentary. -!motives
                 \_ Er, I don't think Jarhead is a documentary.
                    \_ the reference is merely intended to show "typical"
                       recruit mindset.
                       \_ When I was at the Moffet MEPS, the people that I
                          met were pretty diverse.  I don't think I'd be
                          comfortable with your generalization at all.  About
                          the only thing I'd agree with was they were typically
                          very young.      -!motives
                          very young.
                \_ Kick some ass != take revenge for the death of a family
                   member and convert the heathens.
           \_ Does this guy realize that majority of Iraqi casuaties came from
              American bombs during the invasion phase?
        \_ Tell me, mr. Simpson, why do you want to join big Brothers of America?
2006/3/20-21 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:42342 Activity:kinda low
        SCC2 is the Second Annual World's Smallest, Coolest Apartment Contest.
        The guy who lives in a 75sqft apartment in Manhattan is going
        to be the judge. To be eligible, your apartment must be less than
        650sqft. Function, form, comfort will be taken into consideration
        in the contest.
        \_ 650 sq. ft. is small?
           \_ Yes, very.
              \_ It's all relative. 650sqft is big for a student who's used
                 to the dorms, but is tiny to Mr. Dim Wit who loves
                 to live in McMansions even though they're wasteful and
                 located in inconvenient places that require driving 15
                 minutes just to get grocery.
2006/3/20-22 [Science/Space] UID:42343 Activity:low
3/20    Home Depot product recommendation of the month: Sprite Slim-Line
        Showerhead filter. This shower filter filters out 80% of Chroline,
        dirt, odors, & other chemicals that stay on your skin and make you
        dry and itchy.  After using this product, my skin is a lot softer and
        more moist.  I've even stopped using body lotion and conditioner
        because the shower water is softer than before.  The other
        good thing about this product is that it creates fewer water spots and
        less soap scum so that I don't have to clean my tub, tile, and glass
        as often.  Granted it's not as good as installing a real professional
        water softener, but it isn't bad for only $19.85 (plus $10 for
        a new filter every 6 months).
        \_ does a water softener remove Chlorine from water or just Calcium
           and Magnesium? also, is there a good, cheap way to test the water
           in your home?
           \_ Doesn't answer your question directly but useful...
2006/3/20-21 [Recreation/Travel] UID:42344 Activity:nil
        A Germany hotel charges by the pound. I guess they don't like fat
        American tourists or something.
        \_ Caps at 172lbs.  I don't think that's targetted at fat American
        \_ More to the point, have you seen German tourists? There's only so
           much lager and sausage the body can process.
        \_ He should base it on BMI.
2006/3/20-22 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:42345 Activity:nil
3/20    Yay!  Thinkpads finally have a Windows key.
        Did this happen with the transition to Lenovo?
        \_ You use the windows key?
           \_ Win-M, Win-E
        \_ dude, why do you need Windows key for?  control-escape is fine, no?
           \_ Windows-M is pretty useful.  There's other key combos too.
           \_ Ctrl+Esc can't be used with chording.  Win+R, Win+D, Win+Break,
              Win+L, etc. are all useful. (And that's not including various
              other keyboard shortcuts you can assign with third-party tools.)
           \_ if ppl would stop overwriting the motd, Win-M, Win-E
           \_ Windows keys will make great apple keys when running Mac OS X.
              \_ And great Meta keys when running *nix
                 \_ And great Windows keys when running Windows.
                    \_ And great tur keys when...oh, n/m
        \_ BLASPHEMER!!!
2006/3/20-21 [Uncategorized] UID:42346 Activity:kinda low
3/20    Zardoz.  Currently on FMC.
        \_ Worst movie eVAR!!! -dans
2006/3/20-22 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:42347 Activity:nil
3/20    Fedora Core 5 is out:
        \_ yeah, everyone run out and get it.  Redhat needs more than just
           free coders for their enterprise software, they need free beta
           testers too.
           \_ Nothing different from what Microsoft does : releasing
              beta code to the public for testing.
              \_ FC5 had a public testing release since late in the last year.
2006/3/20-22 [Uncategorized] UID:42348 Activity:nil
3/20    Democracy today:
2006/3/20-21 [Recreation/Shopping] UID:42349 Activity:moderate
3/20    I seem to be constantly busting up the heels of my socks. It seems like
        that part rubs against my shoes a lot, damaging both the socks and the
        shoes. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to avoid this is
        to get pretty damn tight-fitting shoes. Is this what everyone else
        does, or is this problem less unique to me than I think? I'm kind of
        wary of getting shoes where I have to really stuff my foot in though,
        since it seems like it'd get uncomfortable pretty quickly.
        \_ I seem to grow especially thick nose hairs than other people.
           I like to pull them out a lot.  Is it just me, or does everyone
           else like to pull out their nose hairs?  Does pulling out
           nose hairs make my nose hairs even thicker?  That seems to be
           the case for my nose hairs.  Is it true for everyone else's
           nose hairs too?
        \_ Switch to sandals. Works for me.
        \_ I get this too.  Tight shoes is all that works for me.  Also it
           helps if you tighten the laces a lot.
2022/07/02 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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