Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2006:January:29 Sunday <Saturday, Monday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2006/1/29-31 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:41588 Activity:kinda low
1/29    Hahaha--Congressional staffers change more than 1000 wikipedia
        entries:  -John
        \_ We're lucking so far all the damage is on the Republicans.  Think
           of all the filth the Republicans would sling if they discovered
           \_ Good thing <opposite party> isn't as corrupt as we are,
              because they'd be even worse!
              \_ Yeah!  I hate <opposite party>!  They are evil and corrupt!
                 <Our party> is pure and pristine!  Go us!  If <our party>
                 isn't in control of all 3 branches, the country, nay! the
                 entire world is doomed!  Go <our party>!  I'm with you
        \_ It couldn't be possible that the 997 fixes not mentioned were
           improvements to the notoriously inaccurate wikipedia.
2006/1/29-31 [Science/GlobalWarming, Finance/Investment] UID:41589 Activity:nil
1/28    Debate on Climate Shifts to Issue of Irreparable Change
2006/1/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:41590 Activity:nil
2006/1/29-31 [Uncategorized] UID:41591 Activity:nil
1/29    Can anyone recommend any agile development trainers?  We had a failed
        attempt at FDD here w/o any trainers, and are now experimenting with
        scrum.  thx.
        \_ we just got through w/ some agile training w/ a guy named mike cohn.
           he seemed pretty good:
2006/1/29-31 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:41592 Activity:nil
1/29    On OS X 10.4.3, I can ssh -Y and start Xapps on a linux server using local X11.
        When I try the same thing with localhost, or another Mac OS X box, it freaks
        out.  I've modified /private/etc/ssh_config and sshd_config to ForwardX11 yes.
        This only happens when running X11 on 10.4.3.  10.3 ssh -X works fine to both
        10.4 and 10.3 servers.
        \_ On a related note.  I couldn't ssh to some of my linux boxes with
           the ssh on 10.4.3.  I eventually gave up and installed the ports
           version, which works just fine.
2006/1/29-31 [Politics/Foreign/Canada] UID:41593 Activity:high
1/29    Canadian miners have it too good, and will be later punished by God
        "In those refuge stations, they can seal themselves off and there's
        oxygen, food and water ... And they can stay in there for at least 36
        \_ They just got rescued I guess God's punishment will have to wait
           for a while. (
           \_ The first post on this one's wonderful.  I'm sure that guy means
              to be sarcastic..
           Freepers look forward to God's punishment of Canadians -op
              Freepers not sure whether to say "great news" or deflect
              comparisons to U.S. mine safety
        \_ Well-designed safety methods: 1/1
           Prayer alone: 0/2
           \_ No, you've got it wrong. The prayer directly caused the safety
              methods to exist. Child, God works through all things, through
              all time.
              \_ except of course the bad things.  -tom
              \_ So what is the excuse for not having done similar things
                 here during all previous administrations?  Blinded by
                 hatred lately?
2006/1/29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:41594 Activity:nil
1/29    FURIOUS guy here.  My girlfriend asked me on saturday night
        if I wanted to have anal sex, but I turned her down.  She
        gave me a handjob instead.  I should have asked her for a
        blowjob too but it was getting late.  Tonight I am looking
        at .
        \_ why don't you just dump her already? it's obvious you don't need
           a girlfriend.
2006/1/29-31 [Health/Disease/AIDS] UID:41595 Activity:high
1/29    One quarter of US AIDS money going to religious groups preaching
        \_ Liar. "President Bush's $15 billion effort to fight
           AIDS has handed out nearly one-quarter of its grants to religious
           groups, and officials are aggressively pursuing new church partners
           that often emphasize disease prevention through abstinence and
           fidelity over condom use."
           1/4 to religious groups.  There's no % listed of how many of them
           are preaching abstinence only.
           \_ Don't be pedantic.
              \_ I'm usually the first to say this, but in this case that
                 is a pretty important difference.
                 \_ I challenge you to find a federal funded religious
                    group that is doing AIDS outreach and education that
                    doesn't involve abstinence only education in some form.
                    Also, doesn't the idea of a "federally funded religious
                    group" kinda bother you?
                        \_ Did not seem to both Thomas Jefferson or any
                           of a large number of subsequent number of
                           presidents to this day.
                    \_ "in some form".  Any sex ed of any sort that doesn't
                       teach "in some form" that *not* having sex is the
                       best way to avoid a sexual transmitted disease is
                       pretty stupid.  What is wrong with telling people
                       that condoms, etc aren't perfect and abstinence is
                       the most effective method of avoidance?  As far as
                       "federally funded religious group" goes, these are
                       not "federally funded religious groups" in the sense
                       that you're implying they are State Sponsored
                       religions.  Churches have always done charity work.
                       Would you prefer they just stop?  Does it bother you
                       that they run soup kitchens too?  Relax your knee.
                       \_ pp is referring to "abstinence-*only*" education.
                          \_ Ok.  How does that change anything?
                                \_ Abstinence-only education is actually worse
                                   than no sex education.
                                   \_ URL or just opinion?
                                      \_ Here's a study from Minnesota
                                         high schools.  There are many more
                                         like this:
                                         \_ Your link doesn't say that
                                            abstinence-only is worse than no
                                            sex ed at all.  "That [the
                                            abstinence-only rate] is still
                                            lower than the average rate of
                                            sexually active adolescents in
                                            those counties, researchers said."
                                            Now, the actual report may actually
                                            say that abstinence-only is worse,
                                            since your article includes many
                                            provocative statements that
                                            abstinence-only is a failure,
                                            but the article itself does not
                                            present logic or statistics to
                                            support those statements.  And with-
                                            out supporting evidence, those
                                            statements by themselves are
                                         \_ Oh yes - Minnesota public schools.
                                            Where they can help your child
                                            obtain an abortion without you
                                            ever knowing anything about it.
                       \_ Also, I am thrilled that churches continue to do
                          charity work. I don't think federal funds should
                          should be used to support them.
                          \_ "to support them".  To support them doing charity
                             work?  You think the Feds are more efficient at
                             helping at the grass roots level than the people
                             who actually live in a community?  I've seen
                             how Fed & State funded programs "work".  You'd
                             be hard pressed to find an organization more
                             corrupt, slack, inefficient or less caring about
                             the 'customer' than someone who has a government
                             job giving away other people's money.  They get
                             rated on how much money they give away and there's
                             no oversight.  It was pretty sickening.
                             \_ I think you missed where he said "I _don't_
                                \_ I didn't miss it.  I'm sharing my
                                   experience as anecdotal evidence that he
                                   should reconsider his thoughts.
                                   \_ So... you WANT the feds to give away
                                      money? Even though it's sickening?
                                      \_ No, but since they're going to do
                                         it anyway, I'd prefer it go to small
                                         local efficient charities instead of
                                         getting handed out like candy to the
                                         wrong people by the wrong people who
                                         are just pissing it away.  I thought
                                         it was clear that the sickening part
                                         is the waste involved in government
                                         aid "projects".
                                         \_ How about they don't give the money
                                            away, lower taxes, and let people
                                            give their own money to whatever
                                            causes they want?
                                            \_ Not if you believe in charity.
                                               Even in the same town, Mr Rich
                                               Guy is unlikely to know that
                                               Mr Poor Guy could use a new
                                               pair of shoes for his kid on
                                               the other side of town, but
                                               I'll bet Poor Guy's local
                                               religious figure and his
                                               neighbors know.  I don't believe
                                               in large money sucking non-
                                               charities either.  Same deal.
                                               Huge org sucking up cash and
                                               giving out pennies on the
                                               dollar to the wrong people.
                                               Large professional charity
                                               orgs in this country mostly
                                               suck and IMO are even worse
                                               than the Feds because they
                                               pull on heart strings to get
                                               your dollar and then piss it
                                               away.  At least the Feds tax
                                               you by force with no pretence.
                             \_ Cf. Salvation Army.
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2006:January:29 Sunday <Saturday, Monday>