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2006/1/9 [Recreation/Dating] UID:41297 Activity:very high
1/8     "Marlene Dietrich 'hated sex', says daughter. Riva, who has written
        a memoir entitled My Mother Marlene, said that Dietrich's hatred
        of sex and sometimes distant personality often made her feel sorry
        for the men who fell in love with her glamorous mother."
        So I'm curious, how many sodans would marry a glamorous gal
        without sex? Say you can marry Jennifer Aniston without sex,
        would you do it?
        \_ Would you marry Jennifer Aniston if she had herpes type 2?
           \_ no way. i'd be down with type 1 though.
              \_ yeah me too.
           \_ You know that HSV-1 can be genital and HSV-2 can be oral, right?
              \_ HSV-1 outbreaks usually occurs only once every year or so.
                 sometimes only once in a lifetime.  HSV-2 outbreaks is
                 going to be once every few months.  this is oral or genital.
                 \_ You're sadly misinformed, but I rash you all the best...
                    \_ What am I misinformed about?  Please fill me in wise one.
                       \_ Basically it's all completely dependent on the
                          individual person and case.  There is some general
                          evidence that genital cases of HSV-1 are less severe,
                          but by the same token it's hard to generalize about
                          what an individual case or progression of genital
                          HSV-2 will be like.  HSV is probably one of the most
                          common human viruses and has a huge range of possible
                          outcomes.  In general, both will gradually decrease
                          in severity over a person's lifetime.  I suggest
                          googling if you're really concerned about this
                          stuff.  The person that said 50% occurrence is
                          being a little misleading as well - the actual
                          statistic is that 1/4 of all sexually active adults
                          will contract it *sometime* in their life.  This is
                          very different than saying that 50% of all sexually
                          active adults have it.
        \_ You do know something like 50% of sexually active adults have
           herpes type 2.  It's not that big of a deal.
           \_ Come on, man.  Everybody's doing it.  Getting type 2 once
              won't hurt anything...
        \_ Not a chance.  I'm with Tom.  Glamor would never even enter in to
           my decision, but high sex drive is very important.  All else the
           same, I think I'd take no glamor over glamor, since if I understand
           your definition correctly, a glamorous wife would mean involvement
           of the tabloid press in our lives.
        \_ No way.  No, No, No, No, No. --PM
        \_ JA is glamorous?
        \_ The glamorousness of your wife, or her measurement against current
           standards of beauty, won't have any bearing on whether your
           marriage is happy or healthy.  -tom
2006/1/9-12 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:41301 Activity:low
1/9     Attention Trollers:
        It is now illegal to post messages anonymously that annoy others via
        the Internet.  Basically, it's already illegal to annoy someone
        anonymously via telephone.   However, someone added "communications
        that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet" to the
        existing law.  See HR3402 Sec. 113.
        http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03402
          [click "Text of Legislation", then #6]
        http://tinyurl.com/dfw9t (cornell.edu)
        http://csua.org/u/ejy (news.com)
        Yes, it is still legal in most cases to "annoy" someone
        non-anonymously via telephone and Internet.
        \_ You're annoying me.
        \_ Annoying?  The whole net would collapse if that was ever taken
           seriously.
           \_ Apparently the law requires a prosecutor to prove "intent to
              annoy," which sounds laughably difficult to me.
              \_ but you're wrong.  -tom
                 \_ But isn't that what makes proving a libel case so difficult
                    in an American court?  The need to prove "intent to cause
                    damage?" (aka reading defendant's mind)
                    \_ No, libel has no bearing on the situation.  The
                       difficulty with libel suits is that true statements,
                       or statements of opinion, are not libel, so you have
                       to show that the statement is based in fact (as opposed
                       to saying "he's an asshole," which is a matter of
                       opinino), and that the person saying it reasonably
                       should have known the statement was false, and that
                       people reading the statement could reasonably believe
                       it was true.
                       "Intent to annoy" is easy; any reasonable person
                       could see that, say, repeatedly sending explicit mail
                       to someone after they've explicitly told you not to,
                       or subscribing them to hundreds of mailing lists, or
                       whatever, is intended to annoy.  -tom
2006/1/9-12 [Transportation/Car] UID:41302 Activity:nil
1/9     How do you buy cars these days?  Do you still haggle with a
        salesperson?
        \_ I emailed the closes N dealers for a quote and did all but the
           final negotiations by email.  The final negotiation was by phone.
           Then I went to the dealership to pick up the car.  I'm giving up
           a few % on price, but it's a more pleasant shopping experience.
        \_ It also never hurts to go to http://carsdirect.com and print out their
           quote as a starting point to the bargaining.
        \_ I did everything by fax two years ago, until I went to the dealer to
           write a personal check and pick up the car.
           http://www.fightingchance.com

 LocalWords:  dervived
           \_ http://www.fool.com/car/car.htm (free)
              \_ This site tells you how to negotiate and how to trade-in,
                 while fightingchance's idea is that don't even get into a
                 negotiation process and don't trade-in.  Different approach,
                 I guess.  Plus fightingchance provides current (well, at least
                 up to the month) numbers on holdbacks, dealer incentives, and
                 the state of the market for your particular make and model,
                 which helps you choose your price.  But like you said,
                 fightingchance is not free.
2006/1/9-12 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Languages] UID:41303 Activity:nil
1/9     I'm using Java's
        BufferedImage.getRGB(int, int, int, int, int[], int, int);
        to read in a whole image for manipulation.  According to my profiler
        it looks like this method is allocating a ridiculous number of objects
        ... on the order of 7000 per call for standard-size jpegs and pngs.
        I am reading back the whole image anyway.  Does anyone know a way to
        load standard-format images in Java without creating a bajillion
        objects?
2006/1/9-12 [Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:41304 Activity:kinda low
1/9     "Well that's great, that's just fuckin' great man. Now what the fuck
        are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty shit now man...
        That's it man, game over man, game over! What the fuck are we gonna do
        now? What are we gonna do?"
        http://csua.org/u/ek9 (yahoo! news)
        \_ Five meters!  Four!
        \_ Take off and nuke the site from orbit.  It's the only way to be
           sure.  -tom
           \_ Fuckin Ay!
              \_ ITYM either "fuckin a" or, on a long shot, "fuckin aye".
                 \_ Aye-firmative!
                 \_ I never understood that one. What the hell does it mean?
                    \_ I Think You Mean -> ITYM
                 \_ Don't think so much.
                 \_ Maybe he's doing a Fonzie imitation.
           \_ ... I knew "ITYM", I was asking about "fuckin' a" --didn't delete
              \_ The one I've found so far that I like is a variation from the
                 phrase "A-OK".  "Fuckin' A-OK" -> "Fuckin' A'"
              \_ Short for "fuckin asshole" maybe?  Since those two are strung
                 together pretty commonly, that'd be my guess...but I'm hardly
                 an expletive expert.
        \_ Just hold your breath and the detector won't detect you.
           \_ Well, and also stay *completely* still until they stop scanning
              the room you're in...assuming you know when they *are* scanning.
2006/1/9-12 [Uncategorized] UID:41305 Activity:nil
1/9     Wait, so the gorgeous woman thread gets deleted, but the political
        crap sticks around?  Someone is a first class prude.
        \_ Gorgeous is the name of an angel with wide child bearing
           hips in the Book Of Moroni.
           \_ Someone is off their meds....
              \_ Or seriously on the wrong dosage....
              \_ Maybe they can start a religion.
        \_ Damn! I always miss the threads about ho7 aZn ch1x!
           \_ More like the thread about STDs.
        \_ What gorgeos woman?
2006/1/9-12 [Reference/Law/Court, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:41306 Activity:nil
1/9     "The state's highest criminal court on Monday denied Rep. Tom DeLay's
        request that the money laundering charges against him be dismissed or
        sent back to a lower court for an immediate trial."
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060109/ap_on_go_co/delay_indictment
2006/1/9-12 [Reference/Religion] UID:41307 Activity:kinda low
1/9     I think all good Christians should have long hair. Every depiction
        of Jesus I've ever seen has long hair, and Christians are meant to
        aspire to be like Jesus. That is all. Oh and they should also wear
        beards. Most Mormons I've seen are the opposite. So they must be
        in league with the devil.
        \_ I've seen guys who agree with you hanging around on Sproul before.
           They also make their own clothes.  It doesn't make any less sense to\
           me than anythingn else Christians do.
           They also make their own clothes.  It doesn't make any less sense
           to me than anythingn else Christians do.
        \_ Yes, my child.  --dbushong
        \_ Err, wow.  By that logic, petty much all Christians are in league
           with the devil -- especially the clean cut ones.
           \_ I know, sad isn't it? Get with the program Christians. Ok the
              devil part was half in jest.
           \_ I can honestly say I don't believe anyone is in league with the
              devil.
              \_ Uhhhh, I don't think Satan does videos, Beavis, unless it's
                 like for Danzig or something.
                 \_ link:csua.org/u/ekg (wear headphones)
        \_ I also walk around in sandals.  Even in winter.
        \_ I think all Christians should get heads.
           http://www.jesuspenis.com/testament/jesus_blowjob.html
2006/1/9-12 [Health/Disease/General] UID:41308 Activity:kinda low
1/9     Cough syrups are placebos.
        http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-01-09-cough_x.htm
        \_ I catch common cold regularly and in my experience Robotusin
           and similar products are POS. A cup of tea with lemon and/or honey
           works much better. If you're somewhere outside near a coffee shop,
           buying a large cup of latte also helps (I get it with a single
           shot of expresso since I don't like the coffee by itself that
           much).
           \_ What effect are you expecting robitussin to have?
              \_ cough suppression
                 \_ robitussin is guifenesin (see below).  the DM variety
                    uses a muscle relaxant.  Looking at other, more informative
                    reports, it looks like they're saying the dextromorphan
                    dosage is too low to have any pronounced effect.  any higher
                    though and its narcotic properties would make them dangerous
                    \_ dangerous?  Dude, you've obviously never done Robo
                       properly.  And don't even get me started on Romilar.
        \_ dextromethorphan doesn't supress coughing, although it's supposed
           to, and I've seen several studies on this.
           guaifenesin is supposed to help make a cough more productive, and
           this is the first time I've read that there's no scientific
           evidence that it helps in this way.  I have my doubts that the
           USA Today author is completely correct.
           \_ Agreed.  This feels like a BBC style misinterpretation of
              a medical journal report.
              \_ I don't think you're agreeing with what you think you are.
                 The grandparent-poster agrees with the USA Today article.
                 \_ oops, grandparent-poster misspoke in last sentence.
                    corrected.  sorry.
              \_ Executive summary available from the source:
                 http://www.chestnet.org
                 "Cough and the Common Cold
                        1. Patients with acute cough (as well as PND
                        and throat clearing) associated with the common
                        cold can be treated with a first-generation
                        A/D preparation (brompheniramine and
                        sustained-release pseudoephedrine). Naproxen
                        can also be administered to help decrease
                        cough in this setting. Level of evidence, fair;
                        benefit, substantial; grade of recommendation, A
                        2. In patients with the common cold, newer
                        generation nonsedating antihistamines are ineffective
                        for reducing cough and should not be
                        used. Level of evidence, fair; benefit, none; grade of
                        recommendation, D
                        3. In patients with cough and acute URTI,
                        because symptoms, signs, and even sinus-imaging
                        abnormalities may be indistinguishable
                        from acute bacterial sinusitis, the diagnosis of
                        bacterial sinusitis should not be made during
                        the first week of symptoms. (Clinical judgment
                        is required to decide whether to institute antibiotic
                        therapy.) Level of evidence, fair; benefit,
                        none; grade of recommendation, D"
           \_ I use the regular Robotussin (guaifensin only) with good
              results. My coughs do become more productive. I guess even if
              it's a placebo it works for me.
              \_ Try whiskey.  Same placebo effect, more fun!
        \_ mm... DXM... hehehe.  Good times.
2006/1/9-12 [Health/Disease/General] UID:41309 Activity:nil
1/9     http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6248862
        Flu activity by week.  Click Previous / Next Week.
        Note that blue means "No activity", whereas light-green means Sporadic.
        (Had no idea this stuff spreads that quickly ...)
        \_ i'm glad i've already gotten the flu this season.
        \_ Fascinating.  Are we getting this from Mexico?
2006/1/9-12 [Recreation/Food, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:41310 Activity:nil
1/9     I'm trying to remember/find the (I can't remember which)
        the 'food' or 'hunger' program that would modify the utmp
        to reflect a user's hunger status. /csua/bin/foodp is just
        a figlet wall script.           -- Marco
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