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2005/12/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:40917 Activity:moderate |
12/7 http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/07/D8EBR6D00.html Once again the left proves they don't believe in free speech. \_ So these students were agents of the government threatening Ann Coulter with jail or worse for speaking? Free speach does not mean what you think it means. \_ Fuck you. \_ See? \_ Fuck you. \_ The left has no tolerance for rants, hate speech, and stupidity. And you sir, are full of rants and stupidity. Sign your name. -i hate stupid people \_ "Sign your name". Neither of you signed. How are you any better than the OP unless being a hypocrite is a good thing? The motd is a weird place. \_ Uh oh, someone didn't RTA. You and the OP are both off on what happened there. Why bother posting links at all? \_ I can't find a single example of hate speech in the article. Would you care to quote something? \_ "No free speech for fascists!" --chanted on the steps of sproul my freshman year. Winners of that year's "clueless" award. \_ '"I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am," Coulter told the 2,600 people at Jorgensen Auditorium.' Of course she loves it; it must be a rare opportunity. \_ stupid is as stupid does! |
2005/12/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:40918 Activity:moderate |
12/7 Looking for a general, nicely written consumer complaint letter to the corporate offices of companies so that I can report on employees who are really rude to customers. I'm tired of writing letters to Frys, Savon, and others. What is a good complaint letter generater? Thanks. \_ http://www.pakin.org/complaint \- dont you think this would benefit by NOT being "general" but specific. also this needs to be what ... 4-5 sentences long at most? it doesnt appear from your inquiry you lack english fluency. just out of curiosity, what is you goal in writing these letters ... catharsis, or some kind of reply, punishment or compensation? Most of those would seem to be better served by a non-generic letter. \_ English is hard. \_ It's not a good complaint letter generator :( \_ Mr. I Abelman, Mongoloid, Esq.: We have received via post your absurd comments about our trousers... \_ I'm pretty sure if Ignatius had a csua account we would have heard from him already, though i'm quite glad to be hearing from him now. |
2005/12/8-9 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:40920 Activity:kinda low |
12/7 Is there such a thing as a portable LCD monitor? I mean something like a laptop but just with the display (and interface). \_ There are the ones that mount in racks with a keyboard that flip up. They are about the size of a laptop. However, most LCDs are by their nature about the same/size weight as a laptop. \_ I've been wondering the same. I'm debating getting a Mac Mini. I don't need to use it while in transit, but it would be nice to have a monitor I could set up when I get to my destination. I've been considering a Head Mounted Display: http://www.stereo3d.com/hmd.htm \_ I posted the question for exactly the same reason, but Head Mounted Display is too exotic for me. Is there something cheap and ordinary that I can put in a backpack? I don't know why pp says most lcd monitor is about the same size/weight as laptop. \_ Because they are? We're not talking about a 20" LCD here, but a small one. Here's one: but a small one. Here's some: http://www.lilliput.cn/619.htm http://www.logisysus.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=75 \_ Take a look at some of the portable LCD's that are used in cars. |
2005/12/8-9 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:40921 Activity:very high |
12/7 Yesterday on the radio I heard a lady say (paraphrased) "Palestinians have the right to participate in the armed resistance." What does this mean? The only meanings I can think of are either meaningless or ludicrous. \_ That's why I like to call NPR "National Palestinian Radio". Sympathy with terrorists, pretentious boring shows and shitty music, now that's a winning combination. \_ Without the context of the discussion, it means even less to us. Was she talking about Israel? Iraq? The US? Mars? \_ I only caught a snipit, but she was talking about how evil Israel is. The real quote went more like, "The wall continues, and the Isreali soldiers beat or arrest any protesters in the way. And those are the ones engaged in non-violent resistence. You know what happens to those in the armed resitence. The Palestinians have a right to do participate in armed resistence, you know." \_ Consider two questions: Did the colonies have the right to declare independence and take up arms against the British? And, did the Confederacy have the right to secede and take up arms against the Union? I think most Americans would say yes to the first and no to the second, but that's because history is written by the winners. -tom \_ Because the concept of "rights" is illusionary. As you \_ Because the concept of "rights" is very ephemeral. As you say, history is written by the winners which is just another way of saying Might Makes Right. \_ The concept of rights is the basis of civilization. -tom \_ Not sure I agree. Individual rights (or lack thereof) have little to do with the rise of civilizations and there are probably savages who afford many rights to their tribe members. \_ But how much is that predicated upon relative isolation and plenty? \_ I'm with tom on this one. Without some form of encoded rights (Hammurabi comes to mind), you don't have much of a civilization. I differ from tom in that I see them as something that can be granted or taken away by the stronger, whereas I believe he sees them as a natural right and a part of being human. If I have stated his position incorrectly, I hope he'll step in and clarify. \_ More important to civilization: agriculture \_ hunter/gatherers dont have civil.? government (does not equate to rights) \_ tribal chief? religion \_ atheist societies cant have a civil.? education \_ plenty of non-western societies without school systems. currency \_ or cash. arts and writing \_ or writing, but yes they all have art Hammurabi was the king of an already powerful civilization. \_ There are implicit rights inherent in most of what you list. Currency and agriculture both require property rights. Education, religion, and the arts require the right of expression. The existence of a government requires a right of government. -tom \_ Yes, but these "rights" can be limited to a small subset of individuals, perhaps the ones with weapons. I wouldn't really call those rights. If someone with a gun tells me to dig a hole then what rights are encoded there? His right to threaten me? \_ Your right to dig a hole. ;-) \_ Yes. However, they only exist if everyone agrees they do and enforces them. A stronger entity who chose to violate a weaker entity's "rights" would find little to no impediment leaving the weaker with limited recourse. "Rights" are a noble concept and a good theory but they don't exist without both the strength and will/desire to enforce them. \_ Your commentary is fairly circular, here. Anyone can have the strength and will/desire to take up arms against a nation; that doesn't mean they all have the right. I would argue that Osama bin Laden had very little right to organize the 9/11 attacks against US civilians, despite the fact that he had the strength and will to do so. On the other hand, Eritrea had a strong right to defend itself against Ethiopia (and Kuwait against Iraq). The question is where Palestinians fall on that spectrum. -tom \_ Circular? Not at all. Might -> Right. Very direct. It just so happens that reasonably good people run most of the planet right now so we have "rights". If the Nazis had won WWII or the Soviets had won the Cold War, there wouldn't be a whole lot of talk about human rights violations around the world. As was already said a zillion times, the winners write the history. They also declare what rights, if any, everyone has afterwards until the next time. \_ "might->right" is a thought-ending cliche. Does a murderer have a right to shoot someone else, just because he has a gun? -tom \_ No, of course not. Society has more might than the murderer and says they don't. There have been societies where the answer would be "yes" if, for example, the killer was a noble and the victim a peasant. Fortunately, we don't live in a society like that. Although you're mixing personal interaction with international affairs, the same M->R concept still applies quite readily. \_ No, it doesn't apply in either case. Taiwan may not have the *ability* to resist a Chinese takeover, but they certainly have the right to. -tom \_ The Chinese would say otherwise. And that's the point: rights are not absolutes. They do not exist as laws of nature, physics, etc. They are an issue of ethics or possibly morals which is the realm of Man where the only rights you have are those you can keep by force or those a stronger entity chooses to allow you to have. In either case they are not "rights" as you seem to be defining them in the Natural or Physics sense. \_ There's this thing called 'Philosophy' which allows people to deal with abstracts that aren't necessarily quantifiable. \_ Yes, we've been discussing it in those terms for about 2 hours now. Join us if you'd like. \_ No, I've been discussing philosophy, and you've been spouting cliches. -tom \_ Too bad you chose to end it like that. Oh well. And here I was beginning to think you could actually engage in an honest intellectual discussion without resorting to that. My mistake. I'm done here. \_ "[R]ight, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." \_ "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong." \_ They have a right to be homocide bombers! \_ Oh, I didn't know those Palestinians are fighting against gay rights. \_ They're more like flaming. \_ It means someone has an opinion that you don't understand. Congrats. Your next step will be reading books without pictures in them. \_ Wow, what an amazingly moronic troll. \_ The main difference is that their side has used suicide bombers on civilians, and people are kind of pissed about that. \_ suicide bombing is a highly evolved method of resistance twisted, but ingenious \_ On civilians? \_ Yes. It's cheap, and among a demographic that's fucked up enough to go for it, every bombing makes you even more admired. Now if, as in the case of Iraq, you're actually hurting (directly or indirectly) the people you depend on to some degree for support, well, then that's not very ingenious. -John \_ Unless say you want to start a civil war and you're only blowing up Shiites. \_ Unless say you're a Sunni and your buddies are only blowing up Shiites, and you want a civil war. \- always an enjoyable read: http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/melian.htm \_ Which they're not. -John |
2005/12/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:40922 Activity:moderate |
12/7 Man jailed for 24 years exonerated in DNA test. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/08/national/08convict.html \_ "The judge sentenced Mr. Clark to life. [Clark] interrupted, saying: 'Your Honor, they had Tony here. I can't put him on the stand. He'll tell you I didn't do nothing but drive the car two weeks later. Y'all got him right here.' 'Mr. Clark, you have had your trial,' the judge admonished. 'Just remain silent.'" \_ I wonder how the rape victim who misidentified him feels now. \_ What's the csua l/p for the nyt these days? \_ "bobbob" for both. \_ that didn't work. @soda? @csua? @???? thanks. \_ nevermind. i figured it out. |
2005/12/8-9 [Reference/Religion] UID:40923 Activity:very high |
12/7 Iran sympathizes the Nazis. http://csua.org/u/e7z (Yahoo! News) "Official Iranian media frequently carry sympathetic interviews with Holocaust revisionist historians -- who attempt to establish that the number of Jews killed by the Nazis was wildly exaggerated." \_ I just want to point out that if Godwin's law weren't bullshit, this thread would already be dead. \_ That is not fair. A lot of people were sympathetic with Nazi for a very simple reason: a lot of people has suffered greatly under British imperial rule. Nazi being enemy of Britian, many people are sympathetic toward them as result. Moral of story: there is a history before WW-2. \_ This has nothing to do with "my enemy's enemy is my friend". This has everything to do with agreeing with people saying "oh, wiping out xyz wasn't so bad." -John \_ That's pretty bizarre. Why wouldn't they be interviewing the people who brag that they killed lots of Jews? Isn't Jew-killing a good thing to most Arab nations? \_ But that would confirm that Jew are victims, which would lead to "Jews deserve more", which is a bad thing to Arab nations. I think "Jews screaming 'victims' to deceive world" is a better thing to most Arab nations. \_ Remember, to Muslim Arabs, Jews don't count. Deaths of jewish children don't even register. So maybe 6 million Jews were killed, but they're not really people, so.... \_ you have no sense of history. Jews traditionaly seek refuge in Arab countries because Arabs were much more tolerante of Jews than Christian Europeans. This is why you find Jewish temple in Bagdad. \_ Not because any of the caliphates or their client states had any particular love for jews or christians -- they were just more pragmatic about tolerating certain groups of infidels and not whacking them out of principle. -John \_ You have no sense of the present. Muslim Arabs blame everything on the Jews today, and extremists like Iran's president don't think twice about killing Jews. \_ I think he knew that. No one replied because it was a troll. \_ Dude, there's no Jewish temple in Baghdad. There's a synagog... \_ How do you know it wasn't exagerrated? \_ Because if you knew anything about it, you'd know the Nazis kept meticulous records about all of it. Thank you for playing. \_ Not really. Not about x people gassed etc. I've looked into this some. If you look at estimates they vary quite a bit, and have changed over time, even from sympathetic sources so it's nothing new. Where would you put the number? \_ Quite really. Where would your sources put the number? And frankly, does it matter exactly how many millions once you get into counting millions anyway? It's stupid to attempt to say that whatever the number was it was too low to be important which is what the Iranians and others are trying to claim for their own political motives, not because they have an academic interest in WWII era history. \_ I was going to put something here but you said it. It does not matter if it's 6 million or 6.5 million. It's a shitload according to all but the most determined revisionist sources with an agenda. -John \_ Well I'm not attempting to say that. And that's not what was mentioned by the op's blurb. Is there a difference between 2 and 6 mil? I think it is relevant to study the actual circumstances because it helps understand how it happened. Ok yeah the Iranians have an agenda here. I'm not arguing about that. But actually sympathizing with revisionist historians is not identical to sympathizing with Nazis. Shrug. \_ most revisionist historians are nazi white supremacist shitheads. |
2005/12/8-11 [Consumer/Camera] UID:40924 Activity:nil |
12/8 Anyone have any overall advice or comments for someone going to Sundance film festival for the first time? Is it pretty much as depicted in South Park? \_ There is nothing for someone not in the industry to do there. It's a place to network and party a little bit. It's the equivalent of going to DECUS or something, but for small(er)-time film makers. I've never been, but my gf works for a film school which often submits films to all of the festivals (including Cannes). I have heard this sentiment from people who have gone. If your film is entered, then have a blast. If not, why go? \_ Because a good friend of mine's film is showing. He's new to this stuff as well, and made his film for about 9k. I was just planning to go for the day his film shows plus one more day to drive around Utah, and that sounds like about the right way to do it. \_ Stick with him. If it's a good film he will be your ticket to fun and interesting things. \_ That's the plan. Thanks. |
2005/12/8-11 [Transportation/Airplane, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:40925 Activity:nil |
12/8 Anyone who flew international recently. Did the check-in luggage limit got decreased from 70 pound to 50 pound? I'll be flying to China soon. \_ Great. Encourage more people to carry on luggage that they should be checking in. \_ Found it, it is 50 pounds now. Damn. \_ I want a passenger + luggage < 250 lbs limit NOW \_ I've been asked my weight when buying plane tickets before. No, I'm not a fatass, but in single engine planes every pound matters. \_ This is for fuel calculation though. -John \- when did it change? i checked +65lbs last week of Nov. although i heard something about this the ticket i looked at had the old weight limits. \_ Why? \_ So I get more luggage allowance. It doesn't matter if the airplane is burning fuel to move fat or luggage. Make the 400 pounders pay up instead of penalizing the rest of us. \_ Yeah, I just can't wait for all those 110 pound women to start bringing an extra 70 pounds of shit on the plane to make up the difference with us 180 pound guys. \_ To hell with you. I'm 7' tall and 250lbs, and I'm still under- weight. Eat a sandwich and get over it. --erikred \_ I travel very frequently, and it's always been 32kg due to US labor laws. I hope you live in the big ciy in China, though, because domestic flight within China has maximum weight of something like 20 or 25kg per lugguage, *ONE* lugguage per person. So, if you intent to transfer, don't bring too much stuff! |
2005/12/8-11 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:40926 Activity:nil |
12/8 Looking for a stat on the read/write time of a single 10K or 15K scsi disk. don't care about scsi's ability to tranfer 320 MB/sec, I care at what speed I can actually write to the platter. Anyone want to point me to (or just give me) the info? tnx. \_ http://www.tomshardware.com should have the benchmarks you're looking for. \_ http://storagereview.com |
2005/12/8-11 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:40927 Activity:nil |
12/8 Cannot write to client file |
2005/12/8-11 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign] UID:40928 Activity:nil |
12/8 Lawyer for 13 GTMO detainees filed a petition Mar 11 2005 http://csua.org/u/e85 (latimes.com) "Falkoff's petition quoted a section of the memo, but the quotation was blacked out in the unclassified version...Falkoff's interpretation...: 'The government believes that Mr. Ahmad has information that it wants but that it cannot extract without torturing him.' ... because torture is not allowed at Guantanamo, 'the recommendation is that Mr. Ahmad should be sent to another country where he can be interrogated under torture.'" "Falkoff's description was not disputed by U.S. government lawyers or by U.S. District Judge Rosemary M. Collyer, who read the actual Pentagon document. The judge ruled in favor of the Yemenis on March 12 ..." \_ The LA Times has been found to be insufficiently patriotic and therefore in league with Emmanuel Goldstein. \_ Another violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. |
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