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2005/11/30-12/2 [Industry/Jobs] UID:40773 Activity:nil
11/29   http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2005/11/13/MNGHFFNMAC1.DTL
        UC Top Salaries dominated by the School of Medicine.
        \_ That's not just UC schools. Med schools have to pay their
           faculty a lot, to be competent with private hospitals/practices.
                                \_ i think you meant "competitive"
                                        \_ oops, you're right! -pp
           Not that academic salaries are anywhere close still.
        \_ where does the  other compensation come from?
2005/11/30-12/2 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:40774 Activity:nil
11/29   French government says "oui" to racism:
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051129/ap_on_re_eu/france_gilding_history
        \_ Assertions like this are why usage of the term "racism" is often
           greeted with derision, and why a lot of people don't take such
           allegations very seriously, even when they should.  This is not
           racism, this is colonialist apologism, there is a difference. -John
           \_ I do agree with you in general, and that this has more to
              to with colonialism than racism, but what makes the line a
              little blurred is that the the law specifically calls out
              North Africa, not, say Vietnam or the far Western parts of
              Germany. See first paragraph:
                 http://csua.org/u/e4o (lemonde.fr)
              \_ Don't forget that large parts of French N. Africa were
                 actual Departements of France as opposed to colonies--they
                 were administratively considered no different from the
                 country's European bits, and had a very large number of
                 European-descended French people living there.  So the
                 Algerian war of independence hit very close to home, and not
                 just geographically.  The "far Western parts of Germany" you
                 refer to are ditto, and are now called "Haut-Rhin" and "Bas-
                 Rhin", formerly Alsace & Lorraine.  The Saarland, although in
                 French hands from time to time, was never really considered
                 part of France Metropole.  Hope this clears things up. -John
2005/11/30-12/3 [Consumer/Camera] UID:40775 Activity:kinda low
11/30   I know that there is at least two photo geeks who are even
        more geeky than I am, and this question is for you:
        I am buying a camera-mount electronic flash unit for my brother's
        Nikon D70.  Should I get a Metz?  What are the advantages of Metz
        Flash? It is as expensive as Nikon. It seems that only hard-core
        tend to use it.  But from the spec and all, I can't tell any
        advantages, thanks
        \- i bought an sb800 for my d70. flashes are pretty cheep.
           it works for me [communication with camera and guide number].
           \_ ditto.
           \_ my last Sunpak was $80.  Out of 7 lenses and two bodies
              not a single one has the price tag more than $280 (though
              most of lenses I got are used :p)  --OP
        \_ I compared the specs of Metz 45 CL3 and CL4 with Nikon SB-28 four
           years ago.  Both CL3 and CL4 have slightly higher guide number than
           the SB-28.  The CL4 also has a secondary fill flash.  I ended up
           buying an SB-28 though, because it was cheaper and is guaranteed to
           be compatible with my N70.  BTW I don't actually mount the SB-28 on
           the camera.  I use a bracket.
           be compatible with my N70.
        \_ but what kind of communcation do you really need, though?  I only
           want TTL/iTTL and I don't care about bell and whistles.  Have any
           one compare the color temperature output by Metz versus Nikon? -OP
           \_ Aren't all electronic flashes 5500K?
              \_ supposely, but almost all of them are a bit blue.
                 \- you look good in blue
        \_ Have you considered the Sigma flashes?  They are cheaper than the
           Nikon speedlights.  Besides the SB-28, I also bought a Sigma EF-430
           Super seven years ago which works well with my N70.  It even has a
           slave mode which the SB-28 doesn't.  The only thing I don't like
           about the EF-430 Super is that it doesn't swivel.  Now the EF-500-
           series ones are pretty cheap too.
           \_ people are bitching about Sigma not being really iTTL.
2005/11/30-12/2 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:40776 Activity:nil
11/30   I've been looking up Comcast and Adelphia to see if they play
        Chinese channels. However, the descriptions only show the names
        of the channel (KCSI, etc etc). How do I find out if they
        play Chinese stuff? Thanks.
        \_ It's a bit low tech, but you could use an audio transmission
           and reception device and actually 'talk' to another human
           being at one of the two companies.  Do you really want to deal
           with companies that support such a low tech method of primary
           communication with their customer base, though?
           \_ Cable phone operators might be less than savvy about the
              exact details of their foreign language program choices.
              \_ Are you the original poster?  If so, you clearly don't
                 deserve an answer to your question.
        \_ I once sent e-mail to Comcast asking about Jade channel (Ch262 in
           Fremont) and got a reply in a couple of days.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Computer/Networking, Consumer/TV] UID:40777 Activity:nil
11/30   I'm thinking about installing a dish just to get Chinese
        channels. However, my home owner's association doesn't allow
        ANY dish because they have a contract with a big name cable
        company (Comcast). At any rate I don't have a backyard and
        I can't install stuff on the common rooftop. Is there such a
        thing as a mini-dish that I can put right by the window?
        \_ Just hide it inside one of the giant stuffed reindeer on the roof.
        \_ In CA, the HOA is SOL.  The law says you can have a dish.  I'm not
           sure how that applies to your situation with a common roof top,
           however.  Try the low tech audio transmission device and see what
           the vendor says about it.  BTW, the motd is a great place for
           medical and investment advice, too.
        \_ HOA can't disallow dishes but they can have rules you must follow
           if you want to install one.  Just ask the associations for the
           requirements if you want to install the dish.  Then make sure the
           vendor will follow those instructions.
        \_ There are tripod mounts.  I've seen people put them on balconies.
        \_ http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html  This is actually a FCC
           rule.  Basically if you have "private" area (balcony for
           example) then your HOA can not really prevent you.  Forget
           about public space such as the roof.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:40778 Activity:nil
11/30   I need to send an AVI file to a WindowsME user.
        DVIX, the codec i usually use,  is supposedly not supported.
        Anyone know of a codec or movie format that would work?Thanks.
        \_ I'd be pretty suprised if MPEG2 didn't work.  Or they could just
           install the DivX codec.
           \_ MPEG2 typically doesn't work unless you've installed a DVD player
              program.
           \_ You're thinking of MPEG1.  Anyway, assuming the op meant DivX,
              the WinME user simply could install ffdshow.
              \_ Or VLC, or simply install the divx codec.
                 \_ VLC is completely awesome. http://www.videolan.org
        \_ The other option is to get them to drop WinME.  Microsoft
           should have to pay an apology fee to everyone who had to use
           that piece of trash.
              \_ Or VLC.
                 \_ The WINME user was told to view the video using
                 realplayer, expecting that the correct codec would be
        downloaded and installed. Instead it came back with the error
        message about it not being supported. Sorry about the typo.
        \_ Matroska codec pack.  -John
2005/11/30-12/3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:40779 Activity:nil
11/30   Why does Dubya look like der Kommandant in all these photos I'm
        seeing of him today?
        http://www.foxnews.com/images/185152/4_2_113005_bush3.jpg
        link:csua.org/u/e4k (cnn.com)
        http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp11-30-05b.jpg
        \_ Because you've got Bush=Hitler on the brain?
        \_ It's the liberal media trying to make him look bad.
           \_ oh goodie, the http://foxnews.com active photo changed, must'a been
              a liberal intern who put up the original!
2005/11/30-12/3 [Finance/Investment] UID:40780 Activity:nil
11/30   Presume you had $90,000 to play with:  It seems that you could make
        0.1-0.2% profit per day just exchanging shares of BRK.A and BRK.B.
        Since BRK.A shares are convertible to BRK.B shares, they always trade
        at about a 30.3:1 ratio.  But since BRK.A has less liquidity that ratio
        swings a couple tenths of a % in the course of a day.  Is this an
        unexploited arbitrage opportunity or am I missing something?
        \_ The BH website has a page on this topic.
           \_ It discusses A->B conversion when B goes above A/30, and the fact
              that the market does not let B goo too far below A/30, but it
              does not discuss day trading off the swings in B's range.
              conventional day trading has the risk that your stock might
              drift in the wrong direction, but with this there is a built-in
              limiter to how far they can drift apart.
              \_ People with a lot more money than you are already taking
                 all the profit available in these kinds of arbitrage schemes.
                   -tom
2005/11/30-12/3 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:40781 Activity:kinda low
11/30   "Researchers Convert Chicken Fat to Fuel"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051130/ap_on_sc/chicken_fat_fuel
        If the process can be adapted to converting human fat to fuel, it will
        solve the energy problem in the US completely!  We may even export
        energy back to the Middle East.
        \_ We can't wait for the 30 miles per big-mac models to come out
        \_ convert human fat to fuel: ride bike
           \_ convert repetitive myopic refrain: shoot self
           \_ How dare you tell me to do hard work.  I want something for no
              work!
              \_ I find biking to be much easier than driving in just about
                 every way, for distances under three miles in a city.
                 I would pay to ride around on a bike, and I would have to
                 get paid to drive.
                 \_ That's because you don't have politically-correct
                    fat-filled belly and ass like mine.
           \_ What they really want is for some people to die, so other people
              can get around easily/effortlessly by pushing a gas pedal on
              their car.
              \_ oh, kind of like the war for oil in iraq?
              \_ oh, kind of like the war in iraq?
        \_ Reminds me of the joke from fight club about selling rich women
           their asses back to them.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:40782 Activity:nil
11/30   Firefox 1.5 is out.
        \_ And is the same binary as RC3, so you don't need to update it if
           you've got the latest RC.
        \_ faster, stable, better - nice
           \_ Does it use more memory or less compared to 1.0.7?  My machine
              doesn't have a lot of RAM and I need to run other big apps.
              \_ I think it uses a bit more based on my unscientific
                 comparison. (a couple thousand k more)
        \_ Just curious: how many sodans use Opera these days?  I just
           installed the latest version and it has some pretty interesting
           features.  Not all websites render nicely, however, compared to
           firefox and IE (but that's pretty common when websites don't
           test with browser X).
2005/11/30-12/3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:40783 Activity:nil
11/30   Video of Pace clarifying to Rumsfeld that U.S. soldiers need to
        physically stop inhumane treatment (not just report it) if in its
        presence:  http://pentagonchannel.feedroom.com
        Click on Pentagon Briefing:  Rumsfeld / Pace
        Then drag the slider to about 60%.  You can download the source .wmv's,
        but for some reason you can't move around in time, I tried it.
        I can't tell whether the exchange was pre-planned, or Rummy really
        didn't know.
        \_ Feel the shift of blame swing to the Iraqis on Rummy's part.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Academia/OtherSchools] UID:40784 Activity:nil
11/30   How do I find back issues of the Jerusalem Post from
        the early 60's, like 1960-1965?
        \_ Build a time machine.
        \_ See if a university library near you has it on microfilm or
           microfiche. It looks like Berkeley only has 1960-61, but UCSB and
           UCSD both seem to have all the years you're looking for.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:40785 Activity:high
11/30   Lieberman has visited Iraq four times in 17 months. He said there are
        signs life is returning to normal, including a profusion of cell phones
        and satellite TV dishes on rooftops.

        "About two-thirds of the country is in really pretty good shape," he
        said, noting most attacks are in the so-called "Sunni Triangle" region.
        "Overall, I came back encouraged."
        http://csua.org/u/e4m
        \_ Lieberman's editorial:
           http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007611
        \_ Wow, if you only look at vast swaths of empty desert, the country
           is doing fine!
        \_ It is encouraging to hear about how well the Kurdish north... which
           was already free and prosperous under Saddam... is doing.
           \_ Except for the occasional spell of mustard gas before some
              random kind people laid down the whoopass on anything airborne
              there.  Nothing serious, though.  -John
              \_ I think the poster meant post '91
        \_ why do you listen to anything this scumbag says?  --liberal
           \_ Agreed.  He's a tool.
              \_ Why is he a tool?  -uninformed moderate
                     \_ "Bottom line, I think Bush has it right." When
                        I asked if he was becoming a neoconservative,
                        Lieberman smiled and said, "No, but some of my
                        best friends are neocons."
                 \_ b/c he might actually be smart enough to know that
                    socialist big government programs are a dumb idea.
                    \_ if anything Dubya has increase the size of government
                       to an blowed level.  why don't you vote him out of
                       office?
                       \_ Lesser of two evils. The Democrats don't
                          believe in liberal economic policies,
                          limited government or conservative/trad-
                          itional social policies. At least the GOP
                          pretends to believe in liberal economics,
                          limited govnerment and conservative social
                          policies. I feel less revulsion voting for
                          such candidates.
                          \_ The GOP stopped pretending to believe in limited
                             government.  Well, unless you've got an Inc. or
                             an LLC after your name.
                             \_ My take is that many in the party still
                                believe in less government, but the
                                current administration does not. I was
                                never hot on either Bush, but I liked
                                the alternatives even less.
                    \_ Are you really that much of an ignorant fuck or are
                       you just pretending?  Liebermann is *owned* by
                       the insurance companies.  Saying that Liebermann's
                       position on health care reform are based on
                        \_ he is also owned by Accounting industry and
                           fanatically oppose to any of accounting reform
                           after Enron scandle...
                       position on health care reform is based on
                       principle is like saying that a senator from
                       a tobacco state's position on tobacco regulations
                       or Ted Stevens's position on drilling ANWR is based
                       on principle.  Fuck you, and fuck Liebermann.
                       \_ I'm not talking about any particular issue.
                          I'm just saying overall he is reasonable in
                          comparison to many of his scum bag colleagues.
                    \_ Lieberman's loyalties are to Israel, not America.
                       \_ Yeah you just can't trust a Jew.  They own the
                          banks, Hollywood, send our jobs overseas, they
                          steal our tech, and ZOG has been intentionally
                          destroying the environment since 1889 for their
                          own negarious purposes.  Kill the Jews!  Oh btw,
                          you overpaid your Klan membership fees, so you'll
                          get the difference back in the mail next week.
                          get the difference back in the mail next week. -lior
                          \_ You'd probably enjoy some of the requests for
                             email accounts or "membership" I get at http://zog.net.
                             Probably doesn't help that it's hosted on <DEAD>88.net<DEAD>
                             (no it's not what you think)  -John
                          \_ I know you wrote this as a joke, but my dad
                             and *many* of his hard core democrat friends
                             (all asian) refused to vote for Gore b/c his
                             running mate was "JEW" Lieberman.
                             The best reason I've heard for not voting for
                             Lieberman is that he looks exactly like the
                             Emperor :-)
                             \_ I'm a Jew, and Liebermann was one of the main
                                reasons I didn't vote for Gore (along with
                                my deep loathing of Tipper.)  I can think
                                of several Jewish friends who also veered
                                over to Nader becauese of how much they hate
                                Liebermann.  In fact, when I think of all
                                my Jewish friends, I can only think of a couple
                                who *don't* hate Liebermann, and I live in
                                his home state.
                                \_ You voted against him *because* he's a Jew
                                   like the above poster's racist family
                                   friends?  I wouldn't vote for or against
                                   anyone based on their membership in a
                                   mainstream (ie: we don't sacrifice goats
                                   and virgins) religion.  Voting against him
                                   because you think he's an ass or an
                                   insurance company shill or whatever makes
                                   sense. -lior
                                   \_ he is a scumbag, and happened to be a
                                      Jew.  Rather he is a Jew or not is
                                      not important.    -- liberal Asian
                                   \_ Of course I didn't vote against him
                                      because he's a Jew.  For me it was 60%
                                      his relationship with the insurance
                                      companies, 30% his involvement with
                                      music censorship(which is why I hate
                                      Tipper), and 10% general hatred of his
                                      idiotic positions on local pork issues.
                                      There are a lot of defense contractors
                                      in Ct., and I think Liebermann clearly
                                      puts their interests above the overall
                                      interests of national defense.  Yes,
                                      I realize everyone does that, but that's
                                      no excuse, and I still hate the guy for
                                      it.  Also, what the hell is wrong with
                                      sacraficing goats?
                                      \_ You're anti-goat?
                                         \_ I'm not a pro-goat zealot. That's
                                            all.
                             \_ No, I didn't write it as a joke.  I think the
                                guy I was responding to saying Lieberman is an
                                Israeli shill is a POS racist.  When exactly
                                did Asians decide they hated Jews?  They're not
                                did Asians decide they hate Jews?  They're not
                                on the traditional list of anti-semite racist
                                types.
                                   \_ Maybe joke was the wrong word. I was
                                      just trying to point out that there
                                      are democrat voters out there who
                                      actually believe all that stuff that
                                      wrote.
                                      I don't know when Asians decided to
                                      start hating jews, but anti-semitism
                                      and racism are fairly common in asian
                                      circles.
                                \_ Asians dont have guilt complex over the
                                   Holocaust and dont feel beholden to Israel
                                   over that issue nor their "stewardship"
                                   over the Holy Land.
                                   PP: you are overreacting.  I think Judaism
                                   is a bit snobbish but I don't like the Pope
                                   either.  I do respect the importance of law
                                   to the Jews and respect the Israeli courts
                                   have taken a number of wildly unpopular but
                                   principled decisions.
                                   \_ Guilt?  So by that you're saying that
                                      guilt over the holocaust is the only
                                      reason to not hate Jews.  And how exactly
                                      is Judaism "snobbish"?  Not only am I not
                                      over reacting but I find your "it's ok
                                      to hate Jews because my people didn't
                                      take part in the holocaust" line quite
                                      shocking.  I'm used to racism, especially
                                      on the motd, but not at this level.  You
                                      need to take a serious step back and
                                      really look at what you're saying.  Also,
                                      Israeli != Jew.  You can be a Jew and not
                                      be Israeli and you can be a full voting
                                      tax paying Israeli citizen and not be a
                                      Jew.
                                      Jew. -lior
                                      \_ Dummy, you are running rabid.  Just
                                         because I am not a big supporter of
                                         Israel doesnt mean I want to see them
                                         driven into the sea.  I think
                                         Lieberman's advice to attack Iraq,
                                         Syria, and Iran is suspect.  On the
                                         other hand I repect his not being an
                                         other hand I respect his not being an
                                         apologist for Pollard.  Are you a
                                         Pollard supporter?  Are you also an
                                         apologist for Israel over the USS
                                         Liberty affair?  I am laughing at you.
                                         \_ Liberty affair?
                                            \_ http://www.ussliberty.org
                                         \_ Re-read the whole thread.  Trying
                                            to paint me as rabid but ignoring
                                            everything I said when I directly
                                            responded to your posts isn't
                                            scoring you any points.  You are
                                            falling back on the age-old racist
                                            debate tactics and I'm not going
                                            to bite.  Failure to stay on topic
                                            and bouncing to a zillion new
                                            things that have nothing to do
                                            with your personal racism aren't
                                            going to help you any.  This has
                                            *nothing* to do with Israel and
                                            you know it.  Bye. -lior
                                            \_ You have a persection complex.
                                               And you have been trolled.
                                               Ha ha ha.  Does it make you feel
                                               better to think someone out
                                               there is hating you?
                                               \_ 1) no. 2) its the motd, its
                                                  all trolls, 3) whatever, 4)
                                                  why would you say someone
                                                  out there hates me?  shrug.
                                                  you're still a racist.
                                                  \_ "I dont like Lieberman"->
                                                     "You hate Jews!"
                                                     \_ Never said that. Read
                                                        the thread.  Thanks.
                                                        /
                                                       /
                                                      /
                                                      "Lieberman's loyalty is
                                                      to Israel" -> "Yeah
                                                      you just can't trust a
                                                      Jew."
        \_ I just recently visited Anbar Province Iraq in order to assess the
           conditions on the ground. Last May 2005, as part of the
           Emergency Supplemental Spending Bill, the House included the
           Moran Amendment, which was accepted in Conference, and which
           required the Secretary of Defense to submit quarterly reports to
           Congress in order to more accurately measure stability and
           security in Iraq. We have now received two reports. I am
           disturbed by the findings in key indicator areas. Oil
           production and energy production are below pre-war levels.
           Our reconstruction efforts have been crippled by the security
           situation. Only $9 billion of the $18 billion appropriated for
           reconstruction has been spent. Unemployment remains at about
           60 percent. Clean water is scarce. Only $500 million of the
           $2.2 billion appropriated for water projects has been spent.
           And most importantly, insurgent incidents have increased from
           about 150 per week to over 700 in the last year. Instead of
           attacks going down over time and with the addition of more
           troops, attacks have grown dramatically. Since the revelations
           at Abu Ghraib, American casualties have doubled. An annual
           State Department report in 2004 indicated a sharp increase in
           global terrorism. - Rep. Murtha
                \_ I don't know who to believe, the guy who is an expert
                   on the military or the other guy!
2005/11/30 [Uncategorized] UID:40786 Activity:nil
11/30   Topic to be determined later:
        \_ The Macarena
2005/11/30-12/3 [Transportation/Airplane, Reference/Military] UID:40787 Activity:kinda low
11/30   TSA to announce Friday that some scissors less than 4 inches long will
        now be permitted in carry-on baggage, since 25% of bags with an illegal
        item have ... small scissors!  Flight attendants still prefer they get
        screened, but who cares about them.
        \- that kinda funny ... my father just got busted for this on tue.
        \_ TSA has always allowed EMT shears (blunt scissors)
           \_ As long as they aren't useful to someone with their jaw wired
              shut.  YMWTGF 'TSA "wired jaw"'
        \_ I took a can of almonds with me on my flight which had a very
           sharp aluminum lid on them. I even cut myself opening them. I
           think the whole security thing is stupid beyond belief.
           \_ Speaking of which.. what happened to all those kids in green
              uniforms with F-16 rifles? Were the poor sobs all sent to
              Iraq?
              \_ F-16 rifles?  Those sound pretty unwieldy.
                 \_ They come with shoulder straps, but they sometimes get
                    tangled in the landing gear.
                    \- those don't exist!  unlike the GU-11 veritech gun pod,
                       although it's best in battloid or guardian modes
                       \_ That's battloid and _gerwalk_ to all you souls
                          uncorrupted by Robotech.
                 \_ Definitely the most maneuverable rifle on the market.
              \_ You mean M-16?
        \_ I'll care when I don't have to take my shoes off when going through
           security.
           \_ From now on your nickname is plutonium shoes.
           \_ 5/7 times I flew (SJC<->LAX) I didn't have to take off my shoes.
              And I'm middle-eastern. I've also stopped getting "randomly"
              screened every single time I fly. --swarthy male
              \_ I used to get searched *every time* I flew.  I think it was
                 beacause I tended to buy my tickets at the last minute and
                 because I tended to buy my tickets at the last minute and
                 online.  I look about as white as you possibly can, so I
                 don't think it's just racial profiling.
              \_ Swarthy male... do you feel you are being targeted for
                 randomn searches?
                 \_ Can't speak for swarthy male, but my hot blonde friend
                    claims she is being targeted.
                    claims she is being targeted, especially when she  is
                    travelling abroad.
                    \_ They're just trying to find excuses to conduct body
                       search on her.
        \_ how did the hijackers during 9/11 get control of the planes?
           was it just through the use of box cutters?  didnt read the
           report or anything.
2005/11/30-12/2 [Recreation/Dating] UID:40788 Activity:nil
11/29   It seems like its only the men that ever ask for anal sex. I
        have never met a woman who would admit to either liking it or
        requesting it. Makes it seem like a domination/control
        method as opposed to a sex act.
        \_ I think there are women who do like it.  The "Sex on Tuesday"
           column of the daily Cal talks about it occasionally and it seems
           that some girls are cool with it.  I would definitely agree that
           it would not be the norm (or even common).
2005/11/30 [Science/Space] UID:40789 Activity:nil
11/30   Why can't we concentrate the suns rays and boil water to
        produce steam which eventually creates electricity?
2005/11/30-12/3 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:40790 Activity:low
11/30    U.S. Is Said to Pay to Plant Articles in Iraq Papers:
        http://csua.org/u/e4t
        \_ it's only illegal for the military to plant articles in U.S. papers!
           go Dubya!
        \_ besides bombing Al-Jazeera offices, this is perhaps the best
           example of "freedom of speech" which we've been taunting the Iraqis.
           Torture chambers, control of press... is it me or USA is not that
           much different than the tyran which USA replaced?
        \_ hey, fight them there so we dont have to fight them here. but
           seriously, whats the big deal? long as we're already in this war,
           if the army wants to use some propaganda to try and win it, go
           ahead right?
        \_ another fine example of "freedom of speech" besides bombing of
           Al-Jazeera offices.  Torture chambers, control of press, is it me
           or USA has become a tryan which it tried to replace?
           \_ *yawn*
           \_ This is different from bombing of Al-Jazeera offices.  One is
              limiting others' freedom of speech which is not good.  The other
              is exercing our freedom of speech which is good.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Science/Electric] UID:40791 Activity:nil
11/30   http://csua.org/u/e4s
        The Not-So-Secret History of 'Aeon Flux'
        \_ A lame cartoon becomes an even worse movie!
2005/11/30-12/3 [Uncategorized] UID:40792 Activity:nil
11/30   anyone here actually listened to Dubya's speech?
        \_ Not necessary.  We know what he's going to say anyway.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:40793 Activity:nil
11/30   I have one of those tiny Sandisk keychain harddrives, and it shows
        it as being nearly full (~500 of 512megs), under OS X, where it
        also shows the drive as having no files on it. But when I plug the
        drive into my PC, it shows a .Trashes file which has all the
        files I've deleted off of it, ever. What is this .Trashes file and
        how can I delete it under OS X (I can delete it with Windows)?
        Thanks.
        \_ Uh, empty trash?
        \_ .Trashes is the trashcan created by OSX.  You can empty the trash
           or just remove it using command line.
2005/11/30-12/3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:40794 Activity:kinda low
11/30   NYT on Bush speech:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/01/opinion/01thur1.html?hp
        "But after watching the president, we couldn't resist reading Richard
        Nixon's 1969 Vietnamization speech. Substitute the Iraqi constitutional
        process for the Paris peace talks, and Mr. Bush's ideas about the Iraqi
        Army are not much different from Nixon's plans - except Nixon admitted
        the war was going very badly (which was easier for him to do because
        he didn't start it), and he was very clear about the risks and huge
        sacrifices ahead.
        A president who seems less in touch with reality than Richard Nixon
        needs to get out more."
        \_ yeah, but our military commander (pace), iraq ambassador (khalilzad)
           and our troops (non-draft) are all better than nixon's analogs,
           so we might actually win despite the dumbass at the top (dubya)
           and his lying cronies (rove, dick)
           \_ what exactly are we winning? where is osama bin laden?
              \_ winning means iraq not destabilizing the region and restoring
                 it back to its non-terrorist-training state
                 \_ huh?  what happened to this 'beacon of democracy in the
                    middle east?'   If we are shooting for non-terrorist-
                    training state, why we topple Saddam at first place?
                 \_ what happened to "beacon of democracy in the middle east"
                    again?  and if victor == non-terrorist training state,
                    why we topple Saddam at first place?
                    \_ democracy is dubya's defn of "winning", not mine
                       anyways, like I said, it didn't train terrorists before
                       we invaded, unlike now, but returning it to that state
                       is part of my defn of "winning"
                       the best realistic outcome in my view is a buncha shiite
                       militias running the place with periodic sunni suicide
                       bombings and regular intervention of the shiite death
                       squads, token U.S. withdrawal in 2005, near-complete
                       U.S. withdrawal by end-2006, and the U.S. retaining
                       squads, token U.S. withdrawal in 2006, near-complete
                       U.S. withdrawal by end-2007, and the U.S. retaining
                       overflight and bombing permissions
                       U.S. withdrawal by end-2006, and the U.S. having full
                       permission to bomb the heck out of anything we verify as
                       a concentrated terrorist training camp
                       of course, none of this precludes the fact that dubya is
                       and will always remain a dumbass
                       \_ oops, I understated by one year.  anyways, another
                          thing to keep in mind is that these dates satisfy
                          the military and the political overseers.
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