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2005/11/9-10 [Uncategorized] UID:40501 Activity:nil |
11/8 What does "Pied-a-Mer residence" mean? \_ I've never heard it before, but I'm guessing it's a pun on "pied-a-terre" which means something like second residence. "mer" is sea, so I'm guessing it's a secondary, seaside house. \_ Boat? |
2005/11/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:40502 Activity:nil |
11/8 Weldon to reveal new 'Able Danger' details Able Danger still receiving near zero media coverage. In 10+ years of following politics I have rarely seen anything like this in Wash DC. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47310 |
2005/11/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:40503 Activity:low |
11/8 Potential headlines for tomorrow: ARNOLD TERMINATED AT POLLS \_ Take that republi-monkeys: http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/Returns/sff/prop/00.htm \_ Um, yeah, like the SFChron, LATimes, OakTribuine, SacBee-- you mean *those* republi-monkeys? \_ I don't give a rats ass what a bunch of media flaks think. \_ You know that Republicans were campaigning against 77, right? -emarkp \_ Boy, that was a big waste of money. \_ Partisanship has won the day. No more room for moderates. CA, \_ Partisanship has won the day. No more room for moderats. CA, you've made Tom DeLay proud. Dems in CA should ignore R's from now on. R's in the senate should eliminate the filibuster and steamroller over anything the D's say. Good bye sweet America. \_ Wow, thanks for censoring my post. I'll say it again: if you're not happy with California then *leave*. \_ I'll leave after all the fucking Mormons, er, Morons leave. You may go fuck yourself. \_ California's doing just fine, thanks. Feel free to move back to Texas, Florida or wherever it is you came from. \_ I've been here my whole life. My whole family is here. And yet I'm surrounded by people who will happily hand over their votes to whoever pays the most. \_ Uh, Schwarzenneger paid the most, and got punked. -tom \_ Uh, no he didn't. Unions spent $100M, pharmaceuticals spent $80M, which leaves (at most) $70M for Arnold. http://csua.org/u/dz0 \_ I must confirm that I got way more mailings and messages on the answering machine from the anti-Ahnold folks. |
2005/11/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:40504 Activity:nil |
11/8 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051109/ap_on_an/election_analysis GWB is a political toxin in Virginia. Dems victory in your beloved state. How do you like that Justin Black? \_ I love the motd. From your own link, "Democrats said ... politcal toxin". Why did you feel the need to take your own link out of meaningful context? "Mice say, 'cats are the devil's spawn!'". If you were serious you'd be reading and posting something from someone more like Sabato who notes that historically there is no real evidence either way that an off-term election has any predictive value for future elections in any direction. Looking at the CA initiatives which as of *this* moment are all losing, one could claim the state is clearly swinging to the right but no it is clearly swinging left! But the reality is the voters are much more astute than analysts and party hacks give them credit for and mostly actually understand what and who they're voting on, case by case. I know you're just a troll but I was hoping to start a worth while discussion. And what does any of this have to do with Justin? He's just some guy. He isn't channeling GWB or Cheney. \_ The party of victimization, group identity politics, and government dependency. What can I say - congratulations on trashing the republic? \_ Which party is that? -John \_ you'd be a perfect fit. \_ That's what yermom said. What is this, "I have a secret and won't tell you"? -John |
2005/11/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack] UID:40506 Activity:nil |
\_ hello jblack, sign your name. And what's wrong with government dependency? You talk as if one ideology has absolutely superiority over the other. \_ I'm not jblack. And learn to format. |
2005/11/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:40507 Activity:low |
11/9 Anyone in SF want to sell me their gun? \_ (Not a SF voter). Did the anti-gun measure have any teeth, like fines, jail time, and someone empowered to enforce it or is it a toothless suggestion? \_ Read it yourself: http://www.sfgov.org/site/election_index.asp?id=33919 "Section 5. Penalties Within 90 days of the effective date of this section, the Board of Supervisors shall enact penalties for violations of this ordinance. The Mayor, after consultation with the District Attorney, Sheriff and Chief of Police shall, within 30 days from the effective date, provide recommendations about penalties to the Board." The Board of supervisors gets to pick the penalty. Nice democratic proceses. \_ Sweet! So they enacted a law with unknown penalties TBD that could range anywhere from nothing to death for the perp's entire family by public hanging. ;-) \_ I'd prefer public raping, Pakistani style. \_ I bukake for justice! \_ bukake for great justice! |
2005/11/9-10 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:40508 Activity:kinda low |
11/9 http://csua.org/u/dyz Google. Don't be evil. Unless you're us. keywords: jet 767 boeing learjet \_ I don't get it. What's evil about having your own jet? I mean, it sounds like they're actually being quite practical by buying a used jet and refurbishing it, rather than blowing the budget on a Gulfstream. \_ How much fuel does a 767-200 use compared to how much a prius saves? \_ how much sodium is an apple vs. how many calories an orange saves? \_ Google gives bonuses for Prius drivers. Not for orange/apple eaters. \_ I remember reading somewhere that when a 747 loaded with passengers travels from England to Egypt to see the pyramids, the trip back and forth burns more energy than was required to build the pyramids. \_ An almost-fully occupied 747 gets 100 person-miles per gallon. Much better than most hybrid car when you drive \_ A almost-fully occupied 747 gets 100 miles per gallon per person. Much better than any hybrid car when you drive solo. Even better than some SUVs when fully occupied. http://travel.howstuffworks.com/question192.htm \_ Of course, it's not a 747, it's a 767, and it won't be fully occupied. In the article it's mentioned that "Gore Design" is redoing the interior. I doubt it will have the capacity as an unmodified 767. Though we can guess that it's "more than 50". That makes it more like 10 person-miles per gallon (if comparable to a 747). \_ Also, they bought it though a tax shelter INC in Delaware. Nice. \_ Last I checked, there weren't any natural-gas, solar, hybrid or battery-powered airplanes. If they were up for buying a jet, into which they plan to put a lot of people in, their choice is fine. \_ I think you may be confusing "evil" with "wasteful". The fact that my rich, well-fed ass is sitting here, posting to motd instead of helping children in Uzbekistan, Upper Volta learn their ABCs and feeding Dinty Moore beef stew to starving penguins in Argentina, is also wasteful and socially irresponsible. Oh, the weltschmerz. Shoot the rich! -John \_ If you haven't seen it, you whould watch Eat The Rich. It has Lemmy Kilmister in it. |
2005/11/9-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:40509 Activity:nil |
11/9 Hot buns! (Barely save for work.) http://news.yahoo.com/photo/051108/ids_photos_en/r1836230989.jpg "The event was organised to entertain the children by a member of a local charity ..." What kind of idea is it to entertain children by having hot models flash their bare bottom? \_ Different culture, man. Personally, I don't think nudity is inherently harmful or unhealthy. That's an american puritanical attitude (OMG! A Breast! For 2 seconds! Think of the CHILDRENNN!). \_ Correct. Topless beaches not a big deal in non-puritannical societies. Also, thong bikinis not an issue. \_ Not even for children? \_ Will somebody please think of them? \_ Thong bikinis better for adults with actual goodies to show off. \_ Umm.. this kids appear to be 12 and up, and many are on drugs. \_ It would have entertained me at age 12. \_ http://web.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=gossip&MsgID=9847 More hot buns for my soda brothers. \_ Definitely a nice butt. |
2005/11/9-11 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:40510 Activity:nil |
11/9 French PM announces raft of measures for riot-hit poor suburbs http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/11/08/afx2324420.html \_ Thereby opening France up to yet another round of "cheese-eating surrender monkey" jokes. \_ Because you know, actually trying to solve problems is bad, instead you are supposed to just make the conditions worse, that always works! \_ In the US, if we have a riot, we know to keep all of residents in that area down for the next few decades. That'll teach them. Except for sports riots. Those are okay by us! We'll clean those up because the white folks would get upset if we didn't. \_ Well, have they learned any foreign policy other than appeasement? \_ it's domestic policy - you have to end up living with these people \_ Not if you send them back where they came from. France, love it or leave it. \_ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4422422.stm Apparently that's the policy. Thanks for censoring this. \_ So next time they want more handouts they just riot again? \_ didn't they do that before the bigger riots? are you sure these are handouts? (don't cherrypick the package) Anyway, in America we do it our way - National Guard and more economic opportunity to begin with, and it works (more or less). In France they do it their way - no shooting at the rioters, letting them do small-time rioting for months/years, then finally giving them a real social/ economic pkg after their riot gets bigger. All of a sudden applying the American method (shooting them all) in France would probably make the situation worse. Whatever works for them. \_ I remember Napoleon uses canons against riot mobs, that worked too... 200 years ago. \- Ultima ratio regum. --louis xiv \- Ultima ratio regum. --louis le grand |
2005/11/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack] UID:40511 Activity:nil |
11/9 ????????????????????? \_ hello jblack, sign your name. And what's wrong with government dependency? You talk as if one ideology has absolutely superiority over the other. \_ I'm not jblack. And learn to format. \_ I'm not the jblack fetishist, but I've reformated because bad formating hurts my eyes. \_ So... why don't you sign YOUR name? -jrleek \_ Because he knows he'd get booted for harassment. \_ Which is typical of "apply the rules to everyone but me" crowd. -emarkp |
2005/11/9-11 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:40512 Activity:moderate |
11/9 Terrorists simultaneously bomb Grand Hyatt, Radisson, and Days Inn hotels in Amman Jordan, targeting Westerners / Israelis - 18+ dead, 120+ injured. (yes, they come up with ever more inventive ways to select dates for attacks) \_ the scary thing is, this is no longer interesting news. \_ fyi, Jordanians are at the top when polling on whether bombings against Westerners in Iraq, and against Israelis by Palestinians, are justifiable -op \_ Completely different issue. Bombing in Iraq is not much different than Frensh Resistance in WW2. \_ It isn't? This is another CSUA History Book Fund item. http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=206 \_ Every time I read crap like that I have the very brief urge to go join the Israeli army. \_ Do it. It is one of few organization which can perform torture and genocide without being prosecuted. \_ Hi troll! And liar too. \_ No, no. That's the PLO. (Or Hamas, etc.) Other side. \_ I am surprised that Isreali Jews dare to venture into places like Jordan or Egypt. My understanding was that despite normal diplomatic relations between those countries and Israel, the Arab population of Jordan and Egypt still harbors hostile feelings towards Jews (specially in Jordan, where something like 40% of population are descendants of Palestinean refugees). \_ Look up "Black September". They have reason to hate the Jordanians even more. But then again, I guess "rational" doesn't really apply here. -John \_ I thought King Hussein got broke his back during one of PLO's attack... \_ KH gave up Jordanian claims on the West Bank because he was rightfully afraid that the palestinians were going to take over his country. It was the easy way out for him and prevented a civil war he couldn't afford and likely would have lost. \_ sorry if this is a morbid detail, but in Jordan the date today is written as "9/11" (day before month) \_ Ah, they thought today is the "Nine Eleven" anniversay. \_ Damned dyslexic terrorists. \_ On what date did the Iraq invasion begin? |
2005/11/9-11 [Uncategorized] UID:40513 Activity:nil |
11/9 What are they doing here? http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=morning+musume+lizard \_ http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/07/japanese_tv_lizards_.html I love it when the subtitles write "He's going to Abe!" --abe \_ Looks like a sort of 'Fear Factor' in spite of what the link above says. |
2005/11/9-10 [Uncategorized] UID:40514 Activity:nil |
11/9 jeez -- so many good motd links today, how am i supposed to get any work done |
2005/11/9-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:40515 Activity:nil |
11/9 Ahh tjb. Someone referenced him below. Those were good times! Does anyone have a "best of tjb" list anywhere? It's sad to see how great artists like tjb and kinney have left the motd. \_ Well apparently this amckee character is of the tjb flavor ... i dunno, just learning about him now in the below thread \_ tjb denied a Playboy bunny sex. amckee was merely a Critical Intel Asset. Sex outranks Intel, on motd anyway. \_ True -- and tjb spammed csua with his long sociapathic megalomaniacal rants. Maybe if we're nice, we can get geordan to republish the classic tjb vs. rosario email. -mice \_ True. But amckee moderated csua so dissent against him could not be publicly aired. As entertaining as the tjb mails were, I think amckee wins for iron-fisted hamhandedness. \_ tjb was never a member of csua, but managed to cause quite a row not only within our organization, but outside of it as well. He's been a very very colorful character. \_ When did amckee moderate dissent? I saw pleanty of dissent, and not a bit of moderation. \_ amckee turned on moderation for the csua mailing list so most csua members could not see discussion against his politburo's policy. I think I said that already. -pp \_ I agree. This was pretty blatant. The Politburo member(s) who did this might tell themselves they're sparing the general membership from trolls, and this might partially be true, but part of it was also to shield themselves from genuine criticism. \_ Interested parties may contact me directly. Or you can just look for it. It's hiding here on soda somewhere. -geordan \_ tjb wins. he is much brighter, and he dares to take on professors. \_ But amckee was a Critical Intel Asset! \_ Get off my dick! -tjb character. Honestly, this whole motd situation has been so blown out of proportion in terms of its importance and relevance, it's hard to take it all seriously. \_ I always felt tjb was more sad than funny, but that might be because my brother is schizophrenic. That's the way he talks when he's off his meds. -tom |
2005/11/9-11 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:40516 Activity:nil |
11/9 Does anyone know of a web hosting service that provides unix shell access that can access IMAP files? I was looking at 1and1, which offers good space/bdw and ssh access, but their mail is maintained separately from the hosted files, which is kind of lame. I'd like to be able to easily import or backup IMAP files using something like scp. Thanks! -mds \_ price range? \_ Yes. \_ 1and1 with shell access an 10GB of space is $10/month. I'd like something similar (e.g. < $20/month if possible) that has a shared pool of mail and web data. It would have to be less than the cost of co-hosting my own box (which I don't have time for right now). Alternatively, I guess some means of doing bulk transfers of IMAP data might work in a pinch, but I haven't seen a client capable of doing that? -mds \_ Typically your IMAP data is owned by one of the mail server accounts and couldn't be read by your UNIX account. \_ so then you're completely at the mercy of the server backups? I'd think there would be some way to take a dump of those remote files as well? Haven't found a thunderbird plug-in or similar to do so, though. \_ belay that, found the link below. Thanks! -mds_ http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/02/19/backup_your_imap_mail \_ How about fetchmail? --dbushong |
2005/11/9-11 [Uncategorized] UID:40517 Activity:nil |
11/9 Judy Miller "retired" from the NY Times today. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/business/09text-miller.html \_ Lucky for her it wasn't a forced CIA retirement. |
2005/11/9-11 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:40518 Activity:nil |
11/9 What do you do when the OSX disk utility (booted from CD) fails to repair your primary startup disk and gives you the error: "Invalid B-tree node size"? This is an iMac G5 and it cannot boot from the Macintosh HD. Any recommendations for data recovery? \_ DiskWarrior \_ Thanks. |
2005/11/9-11 [Reference/BayArea] UID:40519 Activity:nil |
11/9 I was thinking of getting a job in the berkeley area and finishing my degree at UCB. What are some good tech companies in the area that maybe have IT positions? \_ In Berkeley, San Jose, or the bay area in general? \_ Berkeley, Emeryville. Close enough to easily get to campus for classes. \_ There are some tech companies in Alameda like Wind River, RGB Spectrum. \_ what kind of IT? \_ what will your degree be in? \_ http://hotjobs.com \_ What skills do you have (and don't say crossbow)? |
2005/11/9-11 [Politics/Domestic/California/Prop, Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:40520 Activity:moderate |
11/9 Why did people vote against the teacher "5 year probation" prop? Seems like only incompetent teachers should worry about that. Maybe they miscalculated and "4 years" would have passed? \_ Maybe it was a combination of people thinking the current two-year probation period was enough and hating Ah-nold. \_ Why did people love him before but hate him now? I haven't really been paying attention. \_ it really started to turn when he decided to mess with the nurses / teachers / firefighters / police. and then people realized he was doing the same ol' "i'm ah-nold" routine, without providing any substance behind the muscle. and then people realized that it was the CA Republican party that was controlling his agenda. light at the top, actually operated by people smarter than him, just like dubya. \_ Yet here were are with the same old status quo and \_ Yet here we are with the same old status quo and looming deficits and blah blah. Poltics sucks. \_ huh? looming deficits and blah blah. Politics sucks. \_ I liked this story: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teacher10nov10,0,7202054.story \_ Why should the employment rules of schools be a political issue decided by the uninformed masses based on what sounds good to them? -tom \_ We should let the King decide these issues. Death to the plebes! \_ Because the uniformed masses are paying for it and it's bankrupting the state? \_ Let's vote to change police officer's uniforms to pink, while we're at it, since we're paying for them. The idea that schools are bankrupting the state is ludicrous, and in any case, probation length has no effect on the total amount spent. -tom \_ Errr... talk to any business major about this. -jrleek \_ CA spends ~50% of tax revenue on education. MN (one of the highest ranked if not the highest) spends <30%. I don't know what's wrong, but spending more money on it isn't the answer. \_ Just out of curiosity, what is MN's total tax revenue per capita, including income and property tax. Saying MN spends less than 30% on their schools impresses me not at all since they are still spending far more per student than CA. \_ They have fewer students to educate. CA's problem is all the low income immigrant children who are filling the schools at the same time that their parents don't contribute much to the tax base. Those kids deserve an education, but I think it necessarily won't be one as good as what the kids in, say, MN receive. The failure is thinking that it should/can be. \_ What's the percentage of MN children whose native languge is not English or whose parents' language is not English and how does that compare to CA? \_ So you're saying you want to kick out all the illegals to bring CA costs in line with MN? \_ Sounds good to me. Might save some ER's down in SoCal as well. \_ No, what I am saying is that demographic factors probably can offer an explanation to why factors probably can offer and explanation to why CA students underpeform despite the state spending lots of money on them. 88% of MN population are white with a tiny hispanic minority. \_ I have yet to hear a good explanation for why pre-college teachers need tenure. \_ Because the incredibly power teacher's union says so. \_ Because the incredibly powerful teacher's union says so. \_ Because most can get more money working at a different job. They are trading salary for some job security and with the add on of pensions, school districts keeps fairly steady workforce. \_ College professors, yes. School teachers? Mostly not. I had one teacher that could hold a real job in the real world K-12. The rest were "mom" types working for extra take home cash. "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." \_ So the state should be willing to pay private school prices for teachers? Or should the state should expect to accept a high turnover rate for teachers. Note that most teachers don't get past the five year mark. \_ I think your points are unproven bullshit. \_ What do you mean 'private school prices'? Most private school teachers make less. \_ Where's your evidence? \_ http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos069.htm "Private school teachers generally earn less than public school teachers." \_ And it also says at least some of those private school teachers don't have the credentials to work at a public school. It's only fair to compare ones that do. \_ http://nces.ed.gov/pubs/web/95829.asp "On average, public school teachers earn between about 25 to 119 percent more than private school teachers earn, depending upon the private subsector... Between about 2 and 50 percent of this public- private difference can be accounted for by differences in teacher characteristics depending upon the private subsector. Controlling for differences in teacher and school characteristics between the public and private sectors, one observes a residual difference in the salaries of teachers that is simply associated with the sector in which the teacher is employed." Anything else I can point you to to convince you (everyone else is already convinced) that you are wrong? \_ I went to a private school (many of them, in fact) and the teachers always said they could make more in public schools but that they didn't want to deal with public school students, parents, and administrators. Also, many teachers are at private schools because they care about more than a paycheck (many private schools are religious). \_ Why should anything be decided by the uninformed masses based on what sounds good to them? The whole proposition system is dumb. \_ All Hail Caesar! Long Live The King! Democracy is dumb! Why should the same 'uninformed masses' be allowed to vote on anything? Isn't having the same dumb people choosing their own leaders dumb too? You're totally right, all the modern dictatorships one could name were much better off with A Strong Noble Leader(tm) than we are with all those dumb uninformed masses running around *gasp* voting! and participating in other things normally reserved for Noble Leader and His Family. Is there a place I can donate a few bucks to start a CSUA Motd History Book Fund and then can we require that people like this be a certain height before posting here? \- strictly speaking this is more E_RATCHET than E_TOOSHORT \_ Strictly speaking, this comment is considerably more stupid than the one to which it was responding. \_ This falls under the "I know you are but what am I?!" school of debate. Would you like to add some actual content or are you happy at the "sticks and stones" level? \_ I love the motd. Calling a post that starts out "All Hail Caesar!" and proceeds off on some straw man dictatorship tangent "stupid" really requires clarification? If you actually need it spelled out for you, the response below does a decent job. \_ Here's the difference: the below posted something that makes a point and is worth responding to. You posted noise and then waiting for someone smart to respond and then said, "yeah! what *he* said! nyah!" \_ False dilemma. It's not about democracy vs. dictatorship; it's about pure democracy vs. representational. Hey, let's have everyone in the nation vote directly on congressional bills too. Doesn't that sound like a grand idea? Who needs leaders? Let's let all the people vote on everything. \_ When your respresentatives no longer represent and the system has gone too far to self correct, there needs to be some form of check/balance to counter the prevailing non-representative system. In CA we have the prop. system. It provides the people, you know, the tax payer plebes/victims, a chance to retake control of an out of control system. It can also be abused and can create bad situations as well, but overall I have a lot more faith in the voters than I do in life long political hacks and beaurocrats. Pure democracy would likely lead to the people voting themselves goodies from the public trough as they say, but no direct democracy has given us the same problem with corporations and special interest groups and the proposition system is a reasonable attempt to restore power to where it belongs: the people. |
2005/11/9-11 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:40521 Activity:nil |
11/9 NBC - Wall Street Journal poll "Fifty-seven percent believe [Bush] deliberately misled people to make the case for war, compared with 35 percent who say he gave the most accurate information he had." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9981177 \_ Did the poll ask if people thought misleading the American public on going to war is worse than misleading the American public about a blowjob? \_ That was the poll about Libby's indictment vs. Clinton's lies. Duh! \_ Why should going to war be decided by the uninformed masses based on what sounds good to them? -not tom \_ We should decide going/not going based on polls and what the NYT editorial page says. \_ Perhaps they should consider: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Production/files/podhoretz1205advance.html |
2005/11/9-11 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:40522 Activity:nil |
11/9 Congresswoman: Three Al Qaeda Caught in U.S. After Crossing Border with Mexico http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1519110/posts -jblack \_ Go fuck yourself. \_ So are you annoyed about the Freep-link as an IP address thing, at the article, or are you just jblack hater guy again? \_ I suspect he's just off his meds. \_ And you can go fuck yourself as well. \_ How would you know if I can or not? Get back on your meds. |
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