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| 2005/10/25-26 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:40252 Activity:nil |
10/25 Iraqi election officials announce Iraq constitution has passed
link:tinyurl.com/cqk34 link:tinyurl.com/cdcq2 (nytimes.com)
"The Iraqi electoral officials, at the suggestion of United Nations
advisers, had also audited a random sampling of provinces in which more
than 90 percent of voters had approved the constitution. The officials
said today that they had found no evidence of voter fraud in those
provinces, which were Basra and Babil, dominated by Shiites, and Erbil,
a Kurdish province in the north."
[From the LA Times:]
"Carina Perelli, the U.N. elections chief, praised the election audit
and said, 'Iraq should be proud of the commission.'"
[From the Washington Post:]
"But while there is still anecdotal evidence of vote tampering, no
credible evidence of widespread fraud has yet emerged."
\_ mission accomplished. we can go home now. |
| 2005/10/25 [Uncategorized] UID:40253 Activity:nil |
10/25 "What are you staring at, Mr. President?"
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/051025/480/ny13710250245 |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Reference/History/WW2/Germany, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:40254 Activity:nil |
10/25 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051025/od_nm/croatia_crime_dc German robber calls his mom and got caught. HEIL GERMANS! \_ Wouldn't you think a bank would take some precautions to encase/secure the transport vault for 7.2 million euros to make it difficult for one man to rob it? \_ Yeah, by hiring the security guard. \_ Banks often send regular employees to fetch cash when customers want large withdrawals. I don't know about $7.2 million, but definitely hundreds of thousands. \_ "Hey Boss, sorry, I got really sick after that pickup and had to go home. I was dizzy and the doc gave me some stuff, I'm really not sure what happened to the $7.2m". :-) \_ There was a ca. $25m robbery in Zurich a few years ago--some guys rammed a car into a courtyard where a post office cash transport was being unloaded, brandished SMGs and got most of the stash (they were all caught.) VW had an ad for its mid-size transport trucks a bit after, with the caption "they could have taken it all along..." -John |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Reference/BayArea, Transportation/Airplane] UID:40255 Activity:low |
10/25 I'm going to be singing at Carnegie Hall and Wintergarden in November.
The preview shows are this weekend in SF and Berkeley. Come check it
out.
http://www.pacificmozart.org/calendar
Also, this will be my first trip to NYC. Is there anything I must not
miss? I'll be there a little over a week, so I should have time to fit
in some good wandering. --scotsman
\_ Will you be doing any performances in the SFBA around the end of
December? I'm dead curious :-) -John
\_ NYC sucks. All cities suck. All that traffic, pollution,
and rude people. Stay in the suburbs, it's better for you.
\_ Funny, there's no Carnegie hall in the suburbs...
\_ Does anyone else feel the quality of trolls has gone down since
the amckee apocalypse?
\_ What happened? I read in the minutes that amckee resigned,
but there was no explanation from either him or the
secretary why.
\_ Because he made a very public ass of himself.
http://home.lbl.gov/~psb/Articles/CSUA
http://home.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Articles/CSUA
\- lobster bisque at the soup nazi. and maybe a few egg cremes.
my associates liked Ave Q.
\_ I was just there (first trip) last week. I really liked the
Lower East Side and Chelsea/Hell's Kitchen. Soho was nice too.
\- you really should grab a NYker and look at the front
to see what is going on "about town". it's hard to give
advice without knowing if you are interested in seeing
a band, a photo exhibit, illuminated manuscripts etc.
see what special exhibits are going on at the gug, icp,
the big museusm etc. oh i also sort of like the cloisters.
\_ We were going to try to book the cloisters as a 4th venue,
but they couldn't fit us.
\_ The Village is the place to hang. Late night jazz in basement
clubs. John's Pizza on Bleeker. A trip up to Central Park
and either the Guggenheim or the MOMA (the Guggenheim is worth
it just for the building). Some sort of theater, on or off
Broadway. Theater and musems are the areas where NYC really
kicks the Bay Area's ass.
Side note: When I was a kid, my family once had to ask someone on
the street, "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?", but the guy didn't
take the straight line.
Congratulations! -tom
\_ We were going to try to book the cloisters as a 4th venue,
but they couldn't fit us.
\_ Pick up a Time Out New York for listings of
concerts/museums/etc. If you are a foodie, it may be worth
your while to buy/borrow a Zagat's Guide.
\_ Was just there for the first time a couple weeks ago.
Don't see The Producers (not as good as you think).
Central Park is nice if you're with a girl.
I really liked Menchanko-Tei's (43-45 W 55th St) basic lunch
ramen -- better than any I've had in West L.A. or Little Tokyo L.A.,
also about $7-10, and comfy atmosphere.
\_ last i checked [3 weeks ago], menchanko-tei is on 45th,
east of lexington, on the north side
\_ i also liked sapporo, 49th st between 6th and 7th aves
\_ The Tasting Room is awesome. -John
\_ Congratulations! |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Uncategorized] UID:40256 Activity:nil |
10/25 What's a good thermal base to buy for warmth (55-65F)?
\_ http://www.americanapparelstore.com/2001org.html |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:40257 Activity:nil |
10/25 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051025/ts_nm/britain_mideast_bbc_dc_1 "Chapman said the new Arabic channel would take advantage of the BBC's reputation for fairness and independence in the region." Is BBC really fair and unbiased? I don't usually watch BBC news. Thx. \- Yet did I never breathe its pure serene Till I heard Chapman speak out loud and bold: Then felt I like some watcher of the skies When a new planet swims into his ken; \_ All news has bias. News reports are written and reported on by people. Which stories become news and how big is decided upon by people. People are biased. "Fair" is not the same as "unbiased" and might be achievable in some cases because "fair" is determined by the audience and is not an absolute. The quote above bothers me when they say, "... would take advantage of ... reputation for fairness and independence ... ", which makes me think, "We're not fair or independent so we need cover", but that's just my take. \_ BBC is fairly consistently high quality. It's not unbiased, and if you perceive the bias as being against you, you won't think it's fair. YMMV. -John \_ If BBC is unbiased, then, Al Jazeera would never existed! Al Jazeera was founded because the staff *REFUSED* to follow BBC's directive of self-censoring reports that annoys Saudi Royal Family. It is funny that Al Jazeera is probably the most unbiased news channel (even more so than USA's main stream media), yet USA resort to use methods such as shutting down its website and even missile to silence them... \_ From the article: "Al Jazeera ...... has often shown video of hostages pleading at gunpoint for their respective governments to withdraw troops. It does not however broadcast footage of killings, which are posted on the Internet by militants." |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Uncategorized] UID:40258 Activity:nil |
10/24 For those who were forced to read Chaucer. SHAFT! in Chaucerian
English:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/dwenius/54930.html |
| 2005/10/25 [Uncategorized] UID:40259 Activity:nil |
10/25 kchang sucks |
| 2005/10/25 [Uncategorized] UID:40260 Activity:nil |
10/25 foo |
| 2005/10/25 [Uncategorized] UID:40261 Activity:low |
10/25 "We have double sourced that the vice president's chief of staff has
been indicted," a reporter for ABCNEWS claimed to White House
communications director Nicolle Wallace this afternoon ...
\_ url?
\_ verbatim from drudgereport ... since removed
\_ headline on http://www.rawstory.com "BOGUS: ABC DENIES DRUDGE
LIBBY CLAIM" |
| 2005/10/25-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:40262 Activity:low |
10/25 Did amckee ever apologize to anyone? Is he squished yet?
\_ Read the minutes sometime.
\_ From the minutes, amckee did not apologize.
He resigned. But, according to the minutes, he was persuaded by
those at the meeting to un-resign.
Personally I still think an apology is in order, but whatever.
\_ He was also removed from root, and didn't ask to be reinstated.
\_ I'm sorry you're ugly.
\_ Did amckee explain why he decided to resign? That's not in
the minutes either. Since most CSUA members do not read motd,
they have to reply on the minutes for an explanation of what
they have to rely on the minutes for an explanation of what
happened.
\_ Irritating alumni can make kitchen hot.
\_ Do not meddle in the affairs of alumni, for they are
subtle and quick to anger?
\_ Half right.
\_ He should apologize to the people he sorried or
threatened to sorry. How many people is that?
\_ I never intended to sorry that user, Partha S.
Banerjee
\- who is the "I" here? --psb
\_ It's like the CSUA's own Watergate. An Enemies
List, the Saturday Night Massacre, the missing
email from the psb-politburo exchange, the
Vice-Presidential Pardon, and a tainted
Imperial Presidency and Cabinet.
\_ Why can't it be more like Monicagate, at
least that involved a blowjob.
\_ No, Watergate was serious. This is just,
in the words of a great wise man whose name
is lost to the sands of time,
"U S0 == TeH GHEI, D0)D." -John
\_ Obviously it's not a "national nightmare"
of Watergate proportions and perhaps
appropriately it ends [although I suppose
"end" may be premature] with humiliation
rather than a convinction, but there is
a "civics lecture" aspect to this, sort
of like there is to the other sorry saga
of Harriet Miers. Maybe Bushco will
suggest character assassinating her is
of HARRIET THE JUDGE. Maybe BUSHCO will
suggest CHARACTER ASSASSINATING her is
like attacking the govt and is akin to
terrorism. (re: humiliation ... I assume
amckee resigned out of a sense of
TERRORISM. (re: humiliation ... I assume
mr. amckee resigned out of a sense of
shame, rather than needing to spend more
time with say Arabian Horses. my apologies
if he was really resigned for other
personal reasons such as illness.)
time with say Arabian Horses. my
apologies if he was really resigned for
other personal reasons such as illness.)
\_ The only lesson in this is about
stupid people and small-organization
politics. -John
of HARRIET THE JUDGE. Maybe BUSHCO will
suggest CHARACTER ASSASSINATING her is
like attacking the LEAST DANGEROUS
BRANCH of the govt and is akin to
TERRORISM.
personal reasons such as illness.) --psb |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Science/GlobalWarming, Science] UID:40263 Activity:nil |
10/25 Civ 4 is out tomorrow!
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/620/620513/img_3162231.html
http://pc.ign.com/articles/660/660495p1.html
"Leonard Nimoy for his amazing voiceover work reading a short
quotation as each new technology is discovered"
\_ http://media.pc.ign.com/media/620/620513/img_3162250.html |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Uncategorized] UID:40264 Activity:nil |
10/25 Stanfurd giving away free music on itms:
http://www.tuaw.com/2005/10/24/free-music-from-stanford-university |
| 2005/10/25-27 [Industry/Jobs] UID:40265 Activity:nil |
10/25 Senior Software Engineer opening at Lyris.
/csua/pub/jobs/Lyris-SeniorSoftwareEngineer
I am the hiring manager. -- jsjacob
\_ Permission denied
\_ Mea culpa. Fixed. -- jsjacob |
| 2005/10/25-27 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:40266 Activity:nil |
10/25 How long does an average car battery usually last? I replaced my car
battery 3.5yrs ago with an $85 one at a mechanic, and now that battery
seems to be dying. I drive the car every weekday. Thx.
\_ Anywhere from 3-5 years seems normal. Mine was just replaced after
5 years of services after I left my lights on.
5 years of service after I left my lights on.
\_ Not all batteries are created equal. The piece of shit factory
battery that came with my Mitsubishi died in the first year. The
Interstate that I replaced it with lasted 7 years.
\_ Heh, the crappy factory battery in my Ford Taurus almost made it
to 7.5 years after 105k. -mice |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:40267 Activity:nil |
10/25 Emacs question: after I do "M-x grep -n -e foo -e bar myfile", how do I
repeat the last grep command? The help says there's a history list.
Thx.
\_ hit the up arrow
\_ Thanks! I only tried C-p but didn't think of the up arrow.
\- who are you? --psb
\_ Are you just looking for M-x repeat-complex-command or something
more specific to grep. apropos is your friend.
\_ Just for grep. For example, I want to pull up the last command,
add "-e baz" in the middle, then run it again. |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:40268 Activity:nil |
10/25 Hey, can someone post a list of all the minutes|csua|crap listservs
and how to get on them? I think this should be on motd.official.
Thanks.
\_ it's called a web page, twink
\_ what are you talking about, asshole? |
| 2005/10/25-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:40269 Activity:high |
10/25 http://csua.com Uber-lame. \_ I suggest that various members of root staff and/or politburo are violating the "not being a hoser" clause by sending such a stupid message and shutting down a useful service. \_ root/politburo had only requested that kchang remove the faulty attribution feature. I think kchang took down the rest of it all on his own. \_ root/politburo clarified that the request was only for the removal of the faulty attribution feature. \_ politburo wields a big sword in front of kchang and tells him to take out 24HourDiff, then asks him to be nice and put back a useful archiver service. You honestly think that after wielding your big sword [and causing resentment], that he's going to be nice to you again? You fucking fresh politburo virgins just don't understand basic psychology. \_ Inconceivable! amckee has managed projects with 30 engineers flung across the globe (though we were never told why those engineers felt the need to flee), and the the Psychology Dept has classified him as a Critical Psycho Asset. How can he not know basic psychology? This is in all ways inconceivable. \_ I do not think that word means what you think it means \_ It was still an stupid message. What's with the vague innuendo? What's with the idiotic requirement in the first place? Why is energy being spent on that? (Also, the thing about not being a hoser basically suggests he had to shut it down.) \_ Well, amckee wrongly sorried someone based on kchang's attribution. That must be immensely embarrassing for amckee personally and the politburo in general. Of course they want to shut it down. In fact, isn't amckee the only documented case of someone actually doing bad things (rather than merely threatening to do bad things) based on kchang's attribution? \_ I suspect part of the rationale is that, by identifying users this way, it also opens up the door for persecution of individuals that post stuff that people don't find palatable for whatever reason. I'm just guessing about that, though, based on hearsay that I've heard. I haven't had a chance to decide for myself whether this is really reasonable. *shrug* \_ The biggest issue with the attribution feature \_ The biggest problem with the attribution feature is the fact that it was not reliable. Stating as fact to the world that "baz wrote this", when in fact it was written by foo is a problem. \_ But you have to respect how this was handled (sarcasm) No prior discussion a very widely used facility is is going to be forceably shut down and then "Last minute email from root ..." \_ But you have to respect how this was handled (sarcasm) No prior discussion a very widely used facility is is going to be forceably shut down and then "Last minute email from root ..." What does this refer to: "we don't think this is a sorryable offense"? Are you so delusional to think you could have sorried him for running it in the first place (Politburo edicts now may have retroactive liability?) or that if he didn't comply then you would not have sorried him? Was this an "order" on pain on being sorried or was it a request? Is the politburo interested in hearing requests to reactivate the service? Thanks for the detailed coverage of the Video Game Tournament though. \_ your facts are confused. \_ your facts are confused. -brett \- is this kinda like how i took things out of context when i provided links to the entire paper trail? maybe you can clarify? It seems the the PP is asking for clarification. "good night and good luck" --psb \_ Uhm, are you addressing me or politburo? I'm just taking a shot in the dark about why this service is being blamed. If you're addressing me then your hostility is very very misplaced. \_ I would say he is speaking of the action by Politburo. -someone else \_ Get your facts straight. \_ I agree with previous poster who says that process has been bungled. There could have been plenty of discussion from soda users via motd or listserv on what to do (if anything) about kchang's logging feature, but this resource was not consulted. This is the power of Politburo, but Politburo exercised this power ... unwisely in this case. \_ he was asked merely to put up a disclaimer about the inherent inaccuracy of his system. he chose instead to shut it down. \_ kchang was asked twice to remove a feature. kchang took down his motd site. It was clarified by mrauser that "Your welcome to turn it back on, but it would be nice if you disabled the feature that attributed each post to whomever you thought made it" kchang hasn't posted the clarification on his website. -brett \_ "[T]here is doubt regarding whether your use of CSUA resources violates the 'not being a hoser' clause of the CSUA policy" clearly sounds like a threat. Perhaps it is unreasonable to expect kchang to play nice after being threatened. \_ [brett's clarification removed after I removed the point requiring clarification] \-So the position is "The pburo believes it is acceptable for mr kchang to include a disclaimer about the accuracy of the attributions and operate as before"? (If you are replying to clarify, and are a root/pburo person, it would be helpful if you would sign your name, for obvious reasons). --psb \_ I'm not a politburrito (anymore, thank god), but given that there's not really anything keeping someone else from doing this sort of thing, I don't see the point in telling kchang or anyone else not to do this. Asking to take into consideration its effects on motd as a forum (and possibly turn it off)? Sure. Personally, I draw a line at not noting the inherent inaccuracy of this system. While amckee should have known better anyway, I think it's pretty lame to attribute posts to people based on circumstantial information without noting that the conclusions are circumstancial too --Jon \_ Clarification please. Many of us have our personal attribution scripts. Is it acceptable for us to run them? Is it acceptable for kchang to release his scripts so other people can run them? Strictly for each runner's personal use and entertainment, of course. \_ It's one thing to come to your own conclusions about who wrote what, based on whatever methods you chose, whether it be ps(1) info, w, fstat, the phase of the moon, reading /dev/random, whatever. It's another to tell others your conclusions ala KAIS without at least letting others know how reliable your conclusions are and how reliable your methods are. --Jon \_ While all answers are replies, not all replies are answers. I asked very specific questions, and I am really look for answers, and not just replies. Are we allowed to run our own scripts? Are we allowed to run kchang's scripts, should he choose to release them? -pp \_ I think it's clear you're welcome to run anything you like for your own personal use. You're being asked not to take that same unreliable information and post it to the public as if it was a source of truth without noting it isn't reliable and is just a poor guess at best. Having been accused of posting things by other people when I wasn't even around and then seeing my name next to some garbage later on a public website is just plain wrong. I've had 'magical kchang quality scripts' for years before he started logging&attributing in public. I have *never* used those scripts to "out" anyone. They can't be 100% reliable and it's distasteful and a gauche to do so anyway. \_ Amusing, I had done the same thing. I figured out who the anonymous Freeper was, but just\ kept it to myself. -ausman out who the anonymous Freeper was, but just kept it to myself. -ausman \_ Are we talking about the same Berkeley students who are supposed to be semi-intelligent enough to understand that (a) something like motd posting attribution is trivial and irrelevant (IT'S THE FUCKING MOTD, FFS) and (b) they shouldn't necessarily take what an off-site resource says at total 100% religious face value? -John \_ it isn't just the motd. it is posted on a public website as if it was truth. just because you don't care doesn't mean others don't or that their opinions on the subject of being falsely attributed to some really horrendous things don't count. \_ I read it on the Internet, so it must be true. I guess I haven't been in the US for a while, so I forgot how thin-skinned and whiny people are. Give me a fucking break. -John \_ they've gotten dumber since you left, Fuzzy. that, and I making a distinction, even if it ends an irrelevant one. -Jon \_ Just because people have become dumber doesn't mean you have to pander to them. -John \_ in the end, it's not about them, but about people who wrongly (knowingly or uncaringly) attribute actions to others on false grounds \- hey it's like FBI v. NWA again! http://home.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Articles/CSUA/3.chilling-effect (see last paragraph) them? Yes, I am aware there would be a scalability problem. -pp \_ It's common knowledge that kchang's toys \_ I think kchang knows that his results are inherently not accurate. I know you and I know. I wouldn't call that "common knowledge". --Jon are inaccurate, so I don't think you can claim he's actively "attributing actions" uncaringly, just that his scripts are bad. Are you claiming he did so knowingly and intentionally? Because then politburo should come out and say so. -John \_ I think kchang knows that his results are inherently not accurate. I know you and I know. I wouldn't call that "common knowledge". --Jon \_ So anyone who finds my name incorrectly associated with some garbage at his log will know his toy is inaccurate and not assume I wrote something that has my name next to it? I've seen the stuff come out in search engines and not all of us use a name like "John" that will get 8 zillion hits. No, you don't think some person doing a background check will know or care that it is wrong. They will see it and take it at face value and that is far more wrong than him turning off his toy or at a minimum making it loud and clear on each page that his attributions are no better than random spew and should not be taken seriously. \_ And then they will take my kitten away and make me do the dishes and I won't be able to go to all the kewl places because everyone will hate me... Chill out dude. It's the motd and there is a disclaimer. If you're afraid of being tracked for your beliefs and/or quirks, don't post. \_ Missing point: I didn't post but got attributed anyway. \_ Just disclaim it. Like everyone in BushCo does. Point to disclaimer. If getting accused of doing something offensive on the net is going to ruin your future life, your current/future/both life really sucks. \_ You rarely get a chance to disclaim anything. No one is going to tell you why they made a decision. As far as my life/career, etc, you have no clue. Either way, great life or bad, I shouldn't get smeared by a broken script even if it had zero effect on my life. \_ So you're worried a script will randomly ID you as a poster of an offensive item even if you never post. As much as I admire your paranoia, I think you're nuts. You need to ask root to delete your account now just to be super safe. \_ If you're going to go work at a place that does background checks by browsing hozerish archives of student bbs, I am speechless, and I am sorry at how you have thrown away a good Cal education. -John \_ Nice, also not your place to determine what sort of place might read what and what it looks like in a search engine to an outside investigator. When you provide all of us a dream job with no background checks and we choose to go elsewhere, then we'll talk. \_ I like killin' babies. -hmiers \_ All hail the power of the press/goverment/religious ideologues to locate this misattributed quote to bring down a USSC nominee! \_ So the rest of the world should adapt itself to your lack of career clue? Get over yourself. Nobody's interested that you fiddle litle boys. I guess turning this off REMOVES ALL POSSIBILITY OF ANYONE PUBLICLY SLANDERING YOU! -John \_ I'm glad you are Knower Of All. I feel better now that you put up a straw man and knocked it down for me. \_ Am I wrong? -John \_ Well, no. "The CSUA Politburo and members of Root Staff request that you [kchang] remove the attribution feature from your KAIS MOTD." *One* member of root staff wrote that a disclaimer is sufficient in lieu of a full shut down, but it seems clear the politburo and the root staff as full bodies wanted the service shut down. \_ Since I'm sick of reading datasheets, I'll keep on posting. That "*one* member of root staff" was me. --Jon in fact it was written by foo is the issue. \_ Thanks for the clarification. -brett \- hey it's like FBI v. NWA again! http://home.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Articles/CSUA/3.chilling-effect (see last paragraph) \_ Which is a reasonable request. kchang is just being a baby. -emarkp \_ It was phrased as a threat. As little respect as I have for kchang, he never claimed his toys were authoritative. The people being babies here are the ones whining about "oh n0es, bad things are being attributed to me on the internet!" Whatever. Rampant whiny stupidity just pisses me off. -John \_ It wasn't the first time someone had complained about the inaccuracy of his attributions. His rampant whiny arrogance pissed me off. -emarkp \_ Care to explain why he is whiny and arrogant? \_ Fair enough--like I said. Anyway, re-posting wall & motd and making false attributions (or b.s. ones and claiming they're authoritative) doesn't require csua membership. Note finger?lwall ... -John \_ Forgeries (signing a post with someone else's name) are an obvious possibility of (semi)anonymous things like motd. Saying that you've determined who made a post to motd without saying how certain or uncertain you are is something else. \_ It's usually not considered good etiquette to piss on people who provide a useful service for free. All non-morons knew the vageries involved in the attribution functionality and took them with a grain of salt. I'm pretty sympathetic to kchang here. Maybe he could create a version of KAIS MOTD that requires authetentication so it it so longer requires authentication so it would no longer open to the world at large. \_ like root@csua.berkeley.edu? |
| 2005/10/25-26 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:40270 Activity:nil |
10/25 Suppose I have directories foo, foo/bar, and foo/bar/{a,b,c}. (In
actuality, there are a lot more files.) I'd like tar to archive
everything under foo, except for foo/bar/*, except I do want to keep
foo/bar/a. Unfortunately, tar's exclude patterns seem to take
precedence over any include patterns, so if I exclude foo/bar, I can't
then include foo/bar/a. The easiest workaround I see is to just exclude
foo/bar, and then call tar a second time to append foo/bar/a. Is there
a way to do this with a single call to tar?
\_ Use find to generate a file or dir list, your favorite filtering,
and tar --files-from=<file> to archive the exact list? append
will yield basically the same thing, due to lack of indexing in
tar format. |
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