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| 2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39434 Activity:nil |
9/1 Germany on Katrina:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372425,00.html
\_ America on Katrina:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/lead-religious-right-group-promotes.html
\_ I find this article to be just as tasteless as what it's
complaining about.
"It's not the American people's fault that the storm hit
and they couldn't have stopped it. The Germans, on the
other hand, could have done a lot to prevent World War
II. And yet, care packages still rained down from US
troops. Trittin's know-it-all stance is therefore not
only tasteless, it is also historically blind." |
| 2005/9/2 [Uncategorized] UID:39435 Activity:nil |
9/1 what is good command line Yahoo IM client? |
| 2005/9/2 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:39436 Activity:nil |
9/1 In mysql, can I share data/* (database directories) from one machine
to another? Say I'm using a Linux and a Mac, can I just copy those
files and assume they'll work? It seems to work but I'm not sure
if I'll get into trouble later. Thanks!
\_ dump the tables and scheme to a file (there are commands
for this), move file to new machine, import the data |
| 2005/9/2 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:39437 Activity:nil |
9/1 Pretty interesting interview of a hedge fund manager called
Peter Thiel on http://cbsmarketwatch.com. He thinks the housing
bubble will end not when people stop buying but when the
lenders stop lending. And lenders will stop lending when
the yield curve inverts, which is when short term interest
rate goes above long term interest rate. He also thinks
oil will stay around this level but oil equity still has
a little room to grow since they are still based on the
assumption that long term oil price will be around $40 per
barrel. He also likes Canadian energy companies that own
tar sands fields which become viable now (eg. nexen (nxy)).
He thinks US will go into a Japan-like long term deflation.
By end of year, his current guess would be to short US
equities and short US dollars. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39438 Activity:low |
9/1 Guess why the FEMA reaction is a mess?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
\_ Getting out of a city costs money. Most of the people who stayed
are either poor and can't afford to get out of the city or were
unable to leave on short notice. If a government evacuates a city
they need to fund the evacuation and find people shelter. This
reads like someone blaming to poor for , well, being poor.
\_ http://csua.org/u/d8d [nyt]
"City officials said they provided free transportation from
pick-up points publicized on television, radio and by people
shouting through megaphones on the streets. In addition to the
Superdome, officials opened schools and the convention center
as shelters."
\_ "Shelters" that had no food, water, working sanitation...
This was and is FUCKED.
\_ Six rapes and three murders a night IN THE SHELTER.
\- Blob Dylan: Gimme Shelter
\_ Kinda makes you wonder how many murders & rapes a night
in NO back when it wasn't submerged.
\_ New Orleans had the highest murder rate last year. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Health/Men, Reference/Military, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:39439 Activity:kinda low |
9/2 "Chaos and gunfire hampered efforts to evacuate the Superdome,
and, Superintendent P. Edward Compass III of the New Orleans
Police Department said, armed thugs have taken control of the
secondary makeshift shelter at the convention center.
Superintendent Compass said that the thugs repelled eight squads
of 11 officers each he had sent to secure the place and that
rapes and assaults were occurring unimpeded in the neighboring
streets as criminals "preyed upon" passers-by, including
stranded tourists."
\_ i.e. white people
link:tinyurl.com/92fwx
Huh .. what's going on?
\_ If there was ever proof that men descended from apes...
\_ Dumb question: Why don't the cops/natl guard/etc. just shoot
anyone who's not a cop/natl guard/etc. and armed on sight?
Ordinarily I wouldn't advocate that, but since every extra day
that people can't get rescued means more people dying, getting
killed & raped it seems like the quickest solution.
\- because they quickly duck underwater and escape to their secret
underwater base.
undersea base.
\_ So you're advocating the murder of citizens who are legitimately
brandishing firearms in an attempt to protect themselves from
the armed thugs? Troll harder.
\_ Now, were you a gun control advocate before this?
\_ Certainly not the only reason, but one reason is this: people
shoot back. How many dead cops would you like to add to the
body count and how is a war on the citizens of NO going to help?
There are so many other reasons why this is bad I'm at a loss
to begin ennumerating them. You're just trolling, right?
\_ Okay, let's just let everyone die then.
\_ Your response is non-responsive. Now I know you're
trolling. Thanks for joining us today.
\_ Same reason why you avoid shooting into any possible area,
civilians. Take the gun safety class. If you are not sure of
your target, don't shoot. Too many video games for you...
\_ Uh, you see a mob of armed thugs ... You shoot them
\_ Is he a thug or a man protecing his family? Did he not
hear you? Does he not recognize your authority? Is there
a child standing behind the wall behind the thug? Where
will your stray shots go? Is my objective to kill or
disarm? If disarm, why am I shooting from a distance?
\_ The media are talking about roving bands of armed men.
Somehow cops all over the country, not to mention all
over the world are capable of making this distinction
on a daily basis yet in NO right now, where it should
be REALLY obvious this suddenly becomes 10X harder?
\_ Nothing says photo op better than cops/troops in
helicopters shooting into the city. And being a cop
is different from being a soldier. Unless there are
lives in immediate danger, cops make sure the shots
they take are 'safe' shots. |
| 2005/9/2 [Computer/Companies/Ebay, Recreation/Dating] UID:39440 Activity:high |
9/2 I'm selling something on ebay, and I just got this as a question
from a possible buyer: "dear seller i viewed ur item at ebay and
i developed and i want to know may be this item is in good
condition and i want tell that if you ready please mail me ASAP"
Anyone have a guess at a translation?
\_ How is this?
"[D]ear seller,
[I] viewed [your] item [on] ebay and [I] developed [an interest
in it] ... [I] want to know ... [if] this item is in good
condition ...
[I] want to tell you that [I will buy it from you] if
you [are] ready [to sell it to me directly].
[P]lease [e]mail me ASAP."
\_ finally, someone who understands language
\_ [PS: I am a hot Vietnamese chick who will show up in person
to buy your item. I will wear my slutty outfit so you will
sell it to me cheap, but then my boyfriend will show up so
you will become sexually frustrated. We will laugh at you
afterwards.]
\_ I got this reply from my car ad on craigslist. "Hi my name is
Katrina and Im interested in ur integra. I was wondering where
are u located. Im located in San Jose California. Let me noe
wassup. Thanks =)". Turns out Katrina is this uber-hot Vietnamese
chick. Pity she came to look at the car with her dad.
\_ You won't date a chick who has a father? What?
\_ I wasn't about to date her. She doesn't write well, and I
do have standards. However, I would have cut her a deal on
the car in exchange for services rendered.
\_ Wow, you're vile.
\_ Just say you can't bring yourself to date a "Katrina"
right now.
\_ So you only date English majors who write perfectly in
emails to ebay sellers? And hookers who would put out
for a used car discount. Yes, you have standards. Not
very good standards, but standards.
\_ What do you have against a consensual business
transaction between 2 adults?
\_ Who said I did?
\_ that particular service can't form the basis
of a business transaction in 49 states.
\_ You really need to work on your reading comprehension.
\_ Whatever. My post is on target. If you'd like to
make a specific correction, please do.
\_ craigslist != ebay. Like I said, your reading
comprehension needs work.
\_ and that somehow makes what I said off base?
maybe you have a better point to make and
would like to try again? or better yet, just
give your car to some hooker. whatever. |
| 2005/9/2-5 [Finance/Investment] UID:39441 Activity:nil |
9/2 I don't like where the market is going, and want to do
some shorting, but all the ETFs are shorted to death
by the hedge funds and I can't find any shares. Anyone
knows any good individual stocks as short candidates,
or any ETF where you can still find shares to borrow?
\_ Have you considered puts?
\_ I haven't tried options before. Can you suggest
something specific?
\_ Not really as I am new to buying puts myself. I just
opened a minor put on a major homebuilder. |
| 2005/9/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Computer/Companies/Yahoo] UID:39443 Activity:nil |
9/2 fallout on yahoo from language of photo captions:
http://news.yahoo.com/page/photostatement
(apologize if a repost) - rory
\_ what did i do? here go read the comments of the
guy who took the photo
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=17204#26
search for "Jeasus" - danh
\_ Censoring history to appease the politically correct. Yeah, that's
progress.
\_ And a big thanks goes to danh for doing his part to kick
AFP off yahoo. We have too much information anyway.
\_ what did i do? here go read the comments of the
guy who took the photo
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=17204#26
search for "Jeasus" - danh
\_ "white people find things: http://redirx.com/?3h1a
black people loot: http://redirx.com/?3h1f - danh"
Now, do you really believe there was racism involved
in the captions?
\_ I think it is quite likely that the photographer
would have captioned it differently if he were
shooting black people, yes. -tom
\_ Instead of guessing, why not read the captioner's
comment?
\_ I did. -tom
\_ Then perhaps you'd like to explain why (after
reading it) you've completely ignored it?
\_ what is the guy gonna say? "I have an
ingrained fear of black people, and I
don't want to portray white people in
a negative light"? Look, I don't think
he's Jesse Helms or anything like that,
but this is a pretty clear example of
how deeply ingrained racial stereotypes
are in our society. -tom
\_ Yeah, they're so ingrained tom
sees them where they don't even
exist. -jrleek
\_ When has tom ever allowed fact to sway his opinion?
Looks like my assessment was correct: the white
people in the picture found stuff floating near a
store. Tom you are such an idiot.
\_ you think maybe i've changed my mind and I am posting
the comments of the original photographer? - danh
\_ Right. And your original post and the many other by
like-minded people is what got AFP to withdraw their
photos. I'm glad that you've changed your mind now,
but didn't you do your part in getting AFP to leave?
\_ it looks like the guy was stressed out... i dunno
if he would have written something different if it
were a bunch of black people. hard to say. i also
really hate new orleans. - danh |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:39444 Activity:nil |
9/2 "I keep hearing that it's coming. This is coming. That is coming. My
answer to that is B.S. Where is the beef?" -Mayor Ray Nagin
\_ The only answer I can come up with is "they don't care". Either
that or they just squandered our resources to the point that even
if they did, they couldn't do anything about it. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Domestic] UID:39445 Activity:nil |
9/2 GTA: New Orleans
\_ I don't get the rape charges. "Hey it's dark, no power,
no lights, dead bodies everywhere, no food, let's go
rape grandma!" (I don't believe it)
\_ Do you think food and other resources are evenly distributed
in the convention center?
Have you attended an American high school with a diverse
ethnic demographic?
\_ Try "I'm bored and got a hard on, what's available?"
\_ "...and who's going to stop me?"
\_ Grandma? I heard they were doing the kids.
\_ They draw the line at necrophilia |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39446 Activity:nil |
9/2 The GOP is on the case to save America and New Orleans - the solutiom?
Another tax cut!
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_08_28.php#006382
\_ We're going to have daily 4 hour meetings until we figure out why
morale and productivity are so low! |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:39447 Activity:low |
9/2 I guess America let its national geographic subscription lapse
this is from last year
http://205.188.130.53/ngm/0410/feature5 - danh
\_ Yeah, but New Orleans is full of poor black people. Who gives a
fuck about them?
\_ Plus all of the evil-doers in NO. After years and years of
eating shrimp, they get their just desserts! God hates
crustatean eaters!
\_ http://www.godhatesfigs.com
\_ That's "Freedom Shrimp" to you.
\_ Nor Scientific American from 4 years ago: http://csua.org/u/d8l |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Computer/Rants, Computer/SW/Security] UID:39448 Activity:low 52%like:39356 |
9/2 Evil Corporation Wal-Mart response to New Orleans looters:
http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=170102839
\_ $15m in goods at retail prices or Wal-Mart prices?
\_ When is Bill Gates going do donate some Office 97 to the victims?
\_ I wish you'd post your names so I could hate you both properly.
Fucktards.
\_ What do you think the "sandbags" are filled with? |
| 2005/9/2 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39449 Activity:nil |
9/2 Ha-ha
http://drudgereport.com had a photo of Dubya talking with the two African
American women. Then I submitted aspo's transcript and the motd link
to the CNN video. 15 minutes later and the photo's no longer there. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Recreation/Food] UID:39450 Activity:nil |
9/2 "They need to stabilize that situation," the President said.
"They need to make sure that the food and medicine that is in
place is given to the people that need the food and medicine."
What "they" is he referring to, the French?
\_ God, who else? God Bless. !conservative
\_ Either FEMA or some LA state agency. |
| 2005/9/2 [Uncategorized] UID:39451 Activity:nil |
9/1 Caucasian chicks are special. They are the cross between Greek
goddesses and the Amazon Warrior. I am ready to do battle with them...
\_ Dude, people. it's the 2nd
\_ Is this or the previous post a reference to something?
I don't get it. --likes white girls, but also likes
brown, black, yellow, red, etc |
| 2005/9/2 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39452 Activity:nil |
9/1 They should just take New Orleans off the U.S. map and rename it
to Gulf of George Bush, in honor of our great president George Bush.
\_ Pho Toop? |
| 2005/9/2 [Uncategorized] UID:39453 Activity:kinda low |
9/2 what was up with the FEMA chief dude pretending to brief
gwbush on TV this morning?
\_ Gimme a P! Gimme an H! Gimme an O! Gimme a T! Gimme an O!
Gimme an O! Gimme a P! What's that spell?!
\_ Pho Toop?
\_ Do they do that at Pho 84?
\_ He wants to live in Guantanamo Bay. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Consumer/Audio] UID:39454 Activity:nil |
9/2 Anyone subscribe to Sirius or XM Sat? What do you think of it? |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Consumer/Audio, Recreation/Travel/Nola] UID:39455 Activity:nil |
9/2 New Orleans mayor tells it like it is:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/02/nagin/index.html
Audio clip:
http://www.zen41771.zen.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/WWL-AM%20Interview%20Nagin.mp3 |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39456 Activity:nil |
9/2 Chinese researcher warns of nude Web chats. http://csua.org/u/d8i \_ Nude motd editing still ok? I hope so! \_ That depends, are you making provacative poses? |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:39457 Activity:nil |
9/2 Any tips from sodans who have taken the GMAT? Any good study guide? |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39458 Activity:nil |
9/2 Bush in Biloxi - real life becomes SNL skit:
http://www.cnn.com/video/partners/clickability/index.html?url=/video/us/2005/09/02/vo.bush.biloxi.families.cnn
\_ Sorry, but can you tell me how is it that Bush hugging
hurricane victims, holding hands with relief workers,
and giving out words of comfort while the victims thank
him... how that's suppose to make Bush look bad? Hello?
Looks like 2008 will belong to Jeb Bush. Sad day for the
victims, sad realization for all of us.
\_ I guess you didn't see the horrible irony of his clue-free
conversation with the two black women, but oh well.
\_ That is how you, 48% of the people think. 52% will look
at the images and say "Our great chief is so brave to
show up in Louisiana! And he gives hugs and support
to those in trouble. I'm so proud I voted for him!!!"
\_ I dunno, I hear people are already calling New Orleans
"Lake George."
\_ Only in the People's DemoKratic Republic of
Berserkeley. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39459 Activity:nil |
9/2 The big disconnect on New Orleans --
The official version; then there's the in-the-trenches version
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html
\_ When the feds are being this fucktarded and stupid, even the MSM
can see it.
\_ FEMA head wants to be the next Iraqi Information Minister. |
| 2005/9/2 [Uncategorized] UID:39460 Activity:nil |
9/2 According to the Red Cross, the rapes are all hoaxes.
\_ Url please? |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:39461 Activity:nil |
9/2 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050902/od_nm/germany_spiders_dc German lady eradicated spiders by burning her whole house down. \- it was the only way to be sure. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Computer/SW/Languages, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:39462 Activity:nil |
9/2 Is it possible to set up an auto-reply on cusa account? How to do it?
Create a .auto-reply file?
\_ man vacation
\_ follow the vacation man, my test account get an auto-reply
containing "|/usr/bin/vacation
(reason: Command line usage error)"
\_ man procmailex
\_ thanks procmail auto-reply worked for me.
\_ How is your loop detection? -tom |
| 2005/9/2-5 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39463 Activity:moderate |
9/2 So everyone is complaining that the Federal response to
this Katrina business is too slow.
1. Why should there be a federal response at all?
2. Shouldn't it be the responsiblity of the state to deal
with this sort of thing?
3. Why blame the feds for acting slowly when the states
didn't ask for help for ~ 2 days? [ I could be wrong
on the timeframe here ]
\_ 33% Federal income tax, that's fucking why. Screw all the "the
gub'mint should this, and the Feds should that", here's a service
that people paid for and they ain't getting it. Someone should
call the BBB. -John
2. Shouldn't it be the responsiblity of the state to deal
with this sort of thing?
3. Why blame the feds for acting slowly when the states
didn't ask for help for ~ 2 days? [ I could be wrong
on the timeframe here
\_ Hurray for narrow ideologies that oversimplify issues. I think
the problem with the federal response is that this catastrophe
was predicted up to four years ago, yet the budget for building
precautions to avert it has been consistently cut by this
administration. Then it's taken this long to bring to bear the
official federal disaster relief agency, which should nominally
be in charge since its supposed replacement has not yet been put
in place. If this is the response time for a predicted disaster
with that many people who did not or could not evacuate, what's
going to happen the next time an unpredicted disaster strikes?
\_ So, you don't think FDR should of step in to revive the economy
back in the 1930's, right? Should we abolished EPA and SEC?
\_ I think FDR over stepped the bounds of his authority
in many cases (the USSC thought so as well). I'm not
100% convinced that the EPA falls w/in the commerce
pwr of Art 1 Sec 8, but its probably close. The SEC
clearly falls under the commerce pwr, so congress
has ever right to establish it.
has every right to establish it.
My argument is about separation of pwrs, the nature
of our gov is that the states are independent from
the fed gov and are responsible for administration
of internal affiars. This is an internal affair,
let the state deal w/ it UNLESS they ask for help
from the feds. IF they ask for help from the feds
and the feds mess it up, then its probably okay to
evaluate the federal response. But evaluating the
federal response prior to any state request is not
valid. [ If I got the timeframe wrong, sorry to be
a bother ]
\_ hmm... state right again. I thought those who
advocate "seperate but equal" use "state right" as
main arguement. *FURTHER* How about the Flood of
Mississippi in 1927, when bankers in New Orleans
decided to break the leeves to save New Orleans.
But the result was complete devistation to the country
side... State Supreme Court was completely aligned
with those white plantation owners / bankers, all
law suit was ruled in favor of those who were white.
You *PREFER* that kind of state right? --non white
\_ The states are subordinate to the constitution
and separate but equal is incompatible w/ the
the 14th amd.
If the local gov/populace undertakes a measures
that is not in the best interest of the local
populace, the sol'n isn't to call in the feds.
The sol'n is to deal w/ it local. Or move.
Personally, I don't trust any gov. - local or
fed - to act in the best interests of the ppl.
But I think that the feds have even less interest
in acting responsibly than the locals, therefore
I am opposed to widespread fed intervention.
-also non-white
\_ You _are_ wrong on the timeframe. Blanco asked for financial
assistance for facilitating evacuations on the 26th, when it
became apparent that the storm (then a Cat IV, soon to be Cat V)
was heading their way. Why is a federal response needed? Because
preventing a meltdown of an entire region of our country is an
integral part of protecting your precious markets. This is a
social, economic, and humanitarian crisis on our sovreign territory.
\_ As I understand it, assistance for evacuation for the
entire region was given by the fed gov (note more than
just NO was affected). The problem w/ NO is that the
local resources were not mobilized b/c of local gov
inaction and local resident refusal. The fed gov
should not be blamed for the actions of the local
populace.
My questions have nothing to do w/ mkts, &c. They
are about separation of pwrs. Shouldn't the states
be responsible for themselves to a certain extent?
Why should the fed gov be involved in everything
immediately?
Is it always true that a federal response will be
superior to a local response (cf '89 quake)?
[ Perhaps my views re this event are colored b/c I
come from a part of the world where thousands
of ppl die in floods every year and no one ever
notices ]
\_ http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050903/ap_on_re_us/katrina_national_guard
\_ http://tinyurl.com/deota (news.yahoo.com)
This was a failure of planning. It's STILL failing. There
are people waiting and wanting to help. There is a breakdown
here that is resulting in people dying of dehydration and
illness on the streets of american cities. When the federal
government has depleted the available national guard for the
states involved, it is THEIR responsibility to fill the gaps.
\_ A few questions:
1. Is the argument: the feds sent the NG from LA to
Iraq so that's why they weren't in NO to help w/
this mess?
\_ This is one portion of the argument that puts the onus
of insufficient resources for the state on the feds.
2. If this is the argument, is the assertion also
that so many NG are in Iraq that all of the NG
offered by the other states wouldn't have been
enough to deal w/ the situtaion?
\_ I don't know, and can't speak to it. but you apparently
didn't read the article. the request _was_ made for
more NG support and it languished in Washington (who
would, I suppose, have to approve any interstate troop
transfers).
\_ I got the impression that the delay was b/c LA
wanted to use the NG troops for police purposes
and hadn't put into place provisions for such
use in their agreements. I saw the delay as
shortsightedness on LA's part not as a failing
of the feds. [ I could be wrong ]
3. Assuming that the feds hadn't deployed the NG
to Iraq, is the assertion that there were enough
NG in NO to deal with the situtation in a better
manner?
4. If so, where is the proof that the NG in NO wouldn't
have been overwhelmed just like the NO cops were?
The whole city was flooded and most of the roads
were out. Unless you are claiming that the NG in NO
had a huge fleet of choppers and hovercraft, what
difference could it possibly have made - many of
the LA NG probably would have ended up dead as well.
\_ Wow. Logical leap. I don't know what their plan would
be but I would assume it would not include congregating
their forces in the center of Katrina's path and letting
it wipe them off the map. Are you claiming that the LA
NG is a backwoods militia with a couple jeeps and some
armored bicycles? I would think they would have large
vehicles and cargo movers that could be used as personnel
transports to help facillitate evacuations and high-water
vehicles, helicopters and boats to help in search and
rescue, and portable generators to keep hospitals
working. Since these things didn't show up, I would
assume that they didn't have enough people and equipment
here.
\_ NO was prepared for a cat 3 or so hurricane, not
one this big. It was known that the best way to
survive was to evacuate, but the local gov didn't
handle that properly. If the NG had been in NO,
where is the proof that they could have handled
the situation better than the cops if the whole
place knew they couldn't have handled a situation
like this?
5. Assume that the NG hadn't been deployed to Iraq,
some (perhaps many) of the NG in LA would have
been outside of NO. What is the basis for a claim
that they could have rendered assistance to NO
in a better manner than external NG troops?
\_ How big do you think LA is? The roads have been
passable enough for busses leaving. I'm sure they could
get their armored bicycles through in less than 5 FUCKING
DAYS.
\_ This makes no difference. If the external
troops could have deployed as quickly as
the LA troops, then the fact that the LA
troops were not present does not change
anything.
While there may have been a failure of planning,
to me it seems to be a failure at a state level
not at a fed level. The fed response seems to be
sufficient.
\_ The president doesn't agree with you
\_ So what? I don't agree w/ the pres on many
things.
\_ Hello jblack! Haven't seen you for a while. I miss you too.
Did you have a blast at the golf course? Did you break 80?
\_ Is this the same idiot who said he wouldn't donate money
to natural disaster relief funds because we should
instead be donating money to the "root of the problem"?
\_ No. I donated money to this (and many other) relief
efforts. I'm just not clear on why this is/should be
a federal problem instead of a state problem (the
states are free to ask for federal help, but until
they do can/why should the feds get involved?)
\_ Thank you for speaking out. Like you I'm a minority and I'm
fed up with you socialists. I'm a believer in family
values, moral values, free markets, small government, self-
reliance, and fiscal rectitude. The New Orleans are like the
grasshoppers who squander food and party everyday until
winter comes. It's just a matter of time before they start
begging for food. There's a saying that God helps those who
help themselves. I'm sick and tired of having to pay
for illegal immigrants and lazy people so that they can get
a free education and free lunch. If the Orleans had any family
values or work ethics they would work hard and support
themselves. Instead they leech off from hard honest working
people. The fact that they loot and rape tells you the kind
of people they are. They're worse than the grasshoppers and
they have no sympathy from me.
\_ This just has to be a troll.
\- i'm sure this is a troll but to find a point in it
all ... i think there are tiers of govt involvement
there are tiers of government. it's quite under-
stanable the federal govt be the "backup" when the
state/local govt collapses. it's not like states should
only rely on "private point to point agreements"
with other public or private units ... again, analogosly
when orange county collapsed, the CA state steped in
and this is case the "buck" reasonably stopped with
the state. moving on from "tier of govt" to "tiers
of involvement/effort", i think even many non-fruitcake
libertarian and small-govt people would think it is
consistent with the mission of a "minimal state"
to provide order. moving on from there to the
provision of emergency clean water, doesnt seem
crazy talk. there is a decent prima facie economic
case to think the govt should be responsible for
public goods like levy's ... surely even more so
public goods like levees ... surely even more so
than the classic case of lighthouses, which are a
sop to the shipping industry by and large [yes, i
am aware of some cliams of the possibility of private
lighthouses]. this level of involvement, does not
seem at odds with federal involvement in the new
bay bridge, or ANWAR, or Bob's Expensive Alaskan
Bridge or the Army Corps of Engineers dredging
channels for oil tankers or the Fed govt researching
AIDS or cancer. but finally, if we are talking should the
govt be involved in "making people whole", i do agree
this seems problematic. i personally have not heard a
good rational [as opposed to political or senitmental]
case for why there should have been a special compensation
fund for 9/11 victims. i think vastly increasing the
death benefits for military KIA or firefighters and such
KIA at home should be given relatively more. --psb
\_ Orange County is paying the bonds off with their
own money. The State didn't bail them out.
\- the state did step in in the short term.
if you want to send LA a bill for the
water delivered later, i guess you can do
so. should the state send a bill to people
for firefighting services? or just get out
\_ they do. it's called "taxes".
of the firefighting business? i think there
is a difference between firefighting and
rescuing people from mt mckinley. and
remember at least some of the hypociritical
conservatives [not the libertarians in this
case] wnat the FED GOVT to be involved in
protecting "traditional marriages" from
assmaster and deviant marriages. maybe
scalia will claim the state will make it
iillegal for people to build PRIVATE LEVEES
or drink non-govt suppplied water ... oh wait
in some countries where water provision has been
made private they *have* passed laws making it
illegal to collect your own water.
(BTW, I am not familiar with the details of
how the orange county matter was settled
but i do believe there was some assistance
in buying htem time to restructure [that's
part of the point of bankrupty gradations]
and there may have been some "repuational
assistance" to help them lower their
interest rates when they went back into
the borrowing pool).
\_ Hey Partha, I think you should work on making your
writing look a little less like verbal vomit.
-- ilyas (friendly neighborhood total dumbass)
\- verbal vomit >> mental vomit
i think a point of intersection of
my moral and your political philosophy
is the state should not compel you to
vomit or read. however you may wish to
read Rochin v. California and vomit.
http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/case/333
--psb
\_ I think the state should make an exception
in your case, since you are a pol pot
in training. You know, the counterfactual
golden rule -- do onto others as they
would have done onto you if they only
could. -- ilyas
\- well i think i'd do a lot of good
early in my tenure as pol pot ...
i acknowledge things might get
carried away after a while. i mean
we can all agree on tunring the
out of hand after a while. i mean
we can all agree on tunring The
Donald into Trump Carpaccio, right?
\_ You give yourself too much credit.
-- psb for fertilizer 2008
\_ We used to have private fire companies whose
services were paid for by the insurance companies.
I think all fire fighting is public in the US now.
I wonder if it's now illegal to operate a private
fire company or merely just uneconomical.
\_ I know someone who works for one, but he only
does forest fires, and he said his unit is the
only one he knows of that's private. He likes it.
\- well there were medival "law merchants" too.
doesnt mean today the govt should get out of
the business of business law. i supposed
gated communities can choose to have their
own fire fighters and that may get into
messy situations like private firefighting
companies "poaching" FFs trained on the public
dime. with an "arragement" like that it may
be "economical" ... OWNERSHIP SOCIETY.
i shall now watch CHEF DU FER instead of the motd.
\_ Chef du fer? I'll be playing chemin de fer
tomorrow. BTW, much of the business of the
legal system is now handled by private
arbitrators.
\- yes and lots of people put out their own
kitchen fires. that's why i wrote
"get out of business law" not 'have a
monopoly on dispute resolution".
they do have a monopoly on criminal
prosecution. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Science/Disaster, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39464 Activity:nil |
9/2 Christ. It just gets worse and worse.
http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_nolaview/archives/2005_09.html#076355 |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:39465 Activity:nil |
9/2 Carbon nano-rods are harder than diamonds:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7926 |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:39466 Activity:nil |
9/2 Hey motd I used to have perl w/DBI 1.42 & DBD 2.9003. After
upgrading Perl, DBI 1.48, & DBD 3.0002_1 I'm seeing something
really weird. The following used to work:
$dbh=$DBI->prepare("INSERT INTO data VALUES(\?)");
for ($i=0; $i<10; $i++) {
if (!$dbh->execute($i)) {
print("Oh no! Can't execute: ",$dbh->errstr);
}
}
This runs ok before the upgrade. After the upgrade, if I ever
see just one error, the rest of the execute statements give
me an error, even though they do insert. Anyone run into this
problem? Is this a bug? ok thx.
\_ Hi, I'm the op. I tried DBD 3.0002 instead of 3.0002_1 even
though the CPAN web site lists them with the same number
of PASS/FAILED tests. I guess they missed this simple test case.
Anyways, DBD 3.0002 seems to work. Thanks. |
| 2005/9/2-4 [Transportation/Airplane, Reference/RealEstate] UID:39467 Activity:nil |
9/2 Hey, this is pretty cool:
http://neworleans.craigslist.org/hhh
\_ Uh, yeah, but some of these people don't even have enough money
in their bank accounts to fly to Stepford, Connecticut.
\- there is an interesting mix of impressive and
creepy stuff in there. at least one person says
he'll let a hurricane victim have his southwest
free tix to get there. geeze, there are real
estate ads there? |
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