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| 2005/8/29 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:39324 Activity:nil |
t/28 Tom Watson on Iraq:
http://tomwatson.typepad.com/tom_watson/2005/08/sands_of_death.html |
| 2005/8/29 [Computer/SW/Security, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:39326 Activity:nil |
8/28 The yellow triangle "Time Warner Full Service Network" poster has
been taken down from the CSUA Office. If this has any lore-value
to anyone, come grab it ASAP. First come, first serve. - amckee |
| 2005/8/29 [Finance/Banking, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:39327 Activity:low |
8/28 Any tips on saving money? What do you do?
\_ My strategy was to be really cheap and worry about every dollar
spent. I bought a cheap but decent car with a bunch of rebates out
of college and haven't spent money on that in 5 years. I lived in a
cheap place. These things aren't good for getting women BTW.
I lived much the same way and had no problem _/
on this front. Bitter much?
I think depending on your income though these things probably end
up being kind of a sucker's way to save money. Given a certain level
of saving the best defense is a good offense... try to build your
income through good investments. That will pay off more than
cheaping on misc. consumerism although that comes down to the level
compared to your income. Stupid = buying $ cars and HDTVs with no
savings left. Oh and yeah I never carried a credit card debt.
\_ Have your income exceed your expendetures.
\_ This is pretty much what I do. Do what businesses and
(responsible) governments do: only borrow money to buy things
that will help you make more money. (e.g. car, house) Otherwise,
wait to buy it until you've saved the money to "pay cash". And
that's beyond 6 months+ expenses saved so that next time you lose
your job you don't have to live off credit cards.
\_ It's a pretty goddamn simple concept, but it's worked for me
well enough. I've gotten a lot of long-winded lectures on
complicated savings plans from people who are always living
month to month, while I've been able to save enough to pay off
my college loans on my grad student stipend without really
doing anything that complicated.
\_ Get a copy of Quicken. Go through your old bank and cc statements
(you should be able to get the last few months online) and put
them in, making sure you actually catagorize everything. You will
have to guess on cash transactions, but you should have some idea.
Make a budget with the budget tools in Quicken. Keep it for a
month or two, see how you do. Revist the budget with a better idea
of how well you can stick to it. Then stick to it.
\_ This is a good way to find out what you spend money on and how
much to budget, but not a really good way to ensure you save
the difference. As below, make sure you don't mingle your
'savings' with your 'checking'.
\_ A good way is to automatically deduct money from your paychecks
and send it to a brokerage or even a savings account. Start
small. Send $50 or $100 week off that way and you probably
won't even miss it. When you get used to that increase it.
\_ Vote for less tax! Less tax, more personal income, more savings.
You can start by registering as a Republican, and vote for the
Republican who cuts the most tax. Don't get brainwashed by
left-wing socialists and Democrats alike. You worked hard to
earn your money, you should keep it all. -jblack #1 fan
\_ What's your restaurant and entertainment budget? Cut that.
Travel? Cut that too. Toys and other discretionary? Ditto.
New cars? Forget about it. Clothing and other personal grooming?
Trim those to the bone.
\_ earn more, spend less! Simplicity!
\_ Stop buying lattes. Eat in. Make your own breakfast instead of
buying a pastry. Limit how often you drink in bars. These four
things saved me hundreds of dollars a month.
\_ I bet it lost you about 5lbs/month too, if you were overweight.
\_ Actually, I'm towards the bottom of the BMI for my height, but
that's probably more due to the 5 miles of running every other
day than anything else. But thanks for asking. By the way,
the "get rid of your car" advice is also really good, but
only operable if you work in certain areas. -pp
\_ Get rid of your car. The average car costs $400/mo. -ausman
\_ So if you work for 30 years with no car, that gives you
144,000 dollars more to spend on a place closer to work.
Not to mention the commuting time that you either get for
yourself or use to make more money. I'm pretty sure most of the
whinners who blather about not having the money to live closer
to work could do it with the money saved from not driving.
\_ People get work done with laptops on BART or on buses. Some
read novels. For me, I just nap all the way on the bus. You
can't do these while driving. At least you're not supposed
to.
\_ $400/month really doesn't make the difference between
"able-to-afford housing" and "not" for most people in the
Bay Area. Particularly since if you don't have a car,
getting around (usually) isn't free. Most people will need
to take public transportation, which can easily be ~
$100/month.
\_ don't forget about insurance. But this will only work in
selected areas like NY City.
\_ "AAA Says Average Driving Cost Is 56.2 Cents Per Mile For 2004"
http://csua.org/u/d6l
And that's 2004, when gas prices were lower.
\_ whatever John does, do the opposite. John has expensive tastes.
\_ Oh man, nice rep. :) -John
\_ what's with those expensive pens, restaurants, etc., etc.? :) |
| 2005/8/29 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:39328 Activity:nil |
8/28 Where is the LA National Guard?
http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1093
\_ In Iraq?
\_ They're busy fighting the hurricanes over there, where they
live, so that the hurricanes don't get us here, where we
live. |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Computer/Networking] UID:39329 Activity:moderate 54%like:37400 |
8/29 What's the difference between a hub, a switch and a router? Thx.
\_ AFAIK, probably be corrected by someone:
hub: Allows communication on a LAN with bandwith shared amongs all
the nodes on the hub and maxing out at the max line speed.
switch: Allows communication on a LAN with bandwith greater than
the max line speed (point to point)
router: Allows communication between 2 different networks
\_ The original difference between a hub and a switch is that
a hub was multicasting whereas a "switch" (originally called
a "switching hub") had enough circuitry to route signals
to the appropriate port and that port only in which the
destination IP was located. Obviously a multicasting
hub would slow down the whole network with unnecessary
chatter. A "router" used to mean devices which would
route traffice between different LANs, although these days
the terms have devolved so that they are somewhat
interchangeable (all hubs have essentially become switches,
it's actually somewhat difficult to find a hub these days, and
many switches have essentially become routers).
\- in practice these are used some what randomly right now.
like managed switches are actually pretty smart. but sort
of at a functional level: hub turns one network drop into a
place you can plug in multiple devices. switch: sort of a
set of point to point links making up a subnet based on
arp/mac, and a router is what knows about "routing", i.e.
IP addresses.
\_ Hub: a multiport repeater, extends an ethernet "wire" to
multiple machines.
Switch: a multiport bridge, separates ethernet collision
domains
Router: communication interface between different IP broadcast
domains
Layer 3 switch: Basically a router with a built-in switch. -John
\_ I see. Currently I have Yahoo DSL and one PC at home. The PC
connects to the only ethernet port on the DSL modem. If I
want to add a second PC, I should buy a hub, connect the hub
to the DSL modem, and connect both PCs to the hub. Is that
correct? Thx. -- OP
\_ Not exactly. The hub is not smart enough to translate
between the DSL modem and your PCs, and your modem will
balk at two PCs trying to talk to it at the same time.
Get a four-port router, place that between the modem
your PCs, and configure your router to make the connection
(i.e., get the IP address and serve DHCP to your PCs).
\_ What? What DSL modem doesn't also function as a mini-
router? The DSL modem port isn't magic. It is pumping
out bog standard ethernet packets. --boggle!
\_ Yahoo! SBC DSL is PPPoE. The router needs to
make the connection. The person above is
correct. Get a hub and place it between the
router and the modem. I guess this guy needs a
router, too. It's not the only way, but it's the
best and easiest way. In fact, many DSL routers
are also hubs so he only needs to buy one piece
of equipment.
\_ You failed to recognize DRIPPING sarcasm. Your
penance is to watch George Carlin until your
brain melts
\_ Nice nuke. Hub = multiport repeater, extension of one ethernet
collision domain to many wires/hosts. Switch = multiport bridge,
separates ethernet collision domains (when you hear that ethernet
is contention-based, it means you have traffic from more hosts
colliding on one "wire", slowing shit down.) Router = separates
\- this is getting less true *in practice* with gigE. it makes
life a lot more complicated to run half-dup and is largely
file a more more complicated to run half-dup and is largely
req'ed because of IEEE politics. do you know anybody running
1/2 dup gigE? see e.g. wl.20050819. do you think the person
asking the question know what things like "bcast domains"
mean?
\_ He asked for definitions. The above are correct, _and_
try to answer his question (note: "try"). I don't
know anyone running gigE half duplex; I also don't know
anyone running gigE off a DSL line. Hence: chill. -John
\- BTW, in general there are a lot of weird performance
hacks in these networking devices so often they dont
operate the way you think they might. like some switches
start forwarding a packet before it arrives completely ...
it starts parsing the "front edge" header info ... so in
some cases part of the packet is already "in flight"
to the destination before the box "relizes" the checksum
has failed. anyway, this makes for all kind of weird
unintuitive behaviors, like why on some cases switching
between 10 and 100mbit can be slower than 10-10. etc.
a classic early example of this were the attacks on
cheep switches to get them to go into "repeat" mode
so you could sniff some extra traffic in a "switched"
environment. and mcast makes things a lot more complicated.
IP broadcast domains and communicates transparently between them.
A layer 3 switch is basically a router with a built-in switch, and
a firewall is basically a bridge/switch or router with filtering
logic. In response to your question above, a hub will do fine. I
have no idea what the responder was on about with your DSL router
(it's a router, not a modem, dammit) getting confused. If you want
higher speeds getting the PCs to talk to each other, get a switch,
but you won't gain anything on your Internet connection. Just make
sure your DSL router (he's correct about the PPPoE, STFW) can
accept connections from more than 1 client. -John
\_ The DSL modem and the DSL router are two separate devices.
He said he has a modem. He never said if he has a router
or not.
\_ Rereading I guess you are objecting to the 'DSL modem'
terminology and realize this. He can do PPPoE from two
computers, but it would be easier to buy a router and
have it do the PPPoE instead of mere a hub.
\_ Sorry, I have no idea whether I have a DSL modem or a DSL
router. I signed up for the $19.95/mo plan in 3/05. On my
SBC phone bill they charged me $99 and gave me a rebate for a
"DSL Modem Package". So I always thought the black DSL thing
is a DSL modem. I'll check the the labels on it and see if it
says anything. -- OP
\_ OK, to be a bit less pedantic about it, generally, the way
DSL lines are implemented is by a device which has an
RJ11/45 port on one side doing "phone stuff" and RJ45
on the other side doing "ethernet stuff". A "modem" is a
device which encodes digital signal in an analog sound
carrier. Also, almost all DSL devices I have seen "route"
information between different IP subnets, hence the term
"router" (a router doesn't have to have ethernet on both
sides.) This in almost no way affects your situation, just
trying to be informative. I'm just a bit anal about
terminology. -John
\_ from a technical standpoint, most people use DSL routers and
know one class of routers as modems. a true DSL modem would
provide what is essentially a serial bit stream interface,
or possible multiple streams with ASIC demultiplexors. |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:39330 Activity:nil |
8/29 Anyone has any experience with IPTVs? Do they work ok? In
particular, I am interested in mixed China/Taiwan/HK offerings.
Recently got a mail offering from http://kylintv.com but it seems to
be pure PRC serials / HK movies. I also want Taiwan variety
and political shows. I am in the midwest, so I don't get
any chinese channels, and I am getting free cable, so I don't
want to go directtv. |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:39331 Activity:high |
8/29 "If you paid your mortgage off, it means you probably did not manage
your funds efficiently over the year."
-David Lereah (chief economist, National Assocn of Realtors)
"If you own your own home free and clear, people will often refer to
you as a fool. All that money sitting there, doing nothing."
-Anthony Hsieh (chief executive, LendingTree Loans)
http://csua.org/u/d6q (LA Times)
\_ Indeed, I suppose it's better to pay interest and have the
possibility of losing your home if you ever lost your job
by being unable to pay off the debt than the alternative.
Unless you plan to utilize the debt in some sort of constructive
method, taking out a loan for a loan's sake (especially with
the rather wonky instruments utilized today) isn't necessarily
smart.
\_ Actually, it's better to have money for your monthly
payment than to have spent it all paying off the house.
Also, carrying a mortgage has tax benefits, and someone noted
investments below too.
\_ You don't spend it ALL paying off the mortgage. Like
an investment, you can spend a small portion of what
you earn toward the mortgage, paying off principles.
The tax advantage you get by paying mortgage cancels
out the tax you pay on investments, so paying off
your 30 year 6% mortgage is like making a guaranteed
6% investment (for 30 years). If you are sure your
money will earn more than that, then by all means put
it to good use. If it's just sitting at your band
account earning 1% or doing nothing useful (ie, you
already have enough emergency reserves), then you are
wasting your money. Unfortunately the majority of
people waste their money this way.
\_ I read that too. If the economy gets totally fucked at least
you'll still have your house to live in ... If your goal in life
is maximum consumption with no safety net, then the advice in that
article is very good.
\_ Queue Prop 13 argument. Without it you might not have a
house to live in even if it's paid for.
\_ I agree with Mr. Lereah and Mr. Hsieh. Mortgage interest after
tax savings for a 30 year fixed is like 4%. It's not hard to
beat that with some smart investing. I've been getting like
35% return per year the last 3 years. Mortgage interest is
ridiculously low, and you get the rate for 30 years, then add
a big tax break .. it's a no brainer. Of course, paying off
your mortgage is a safe (guaranteed) return, so if you are
35% return per year the last 3 years. Of course, paying off
your mortgage is a safe and guaranteed return, so if you are
close to retirement ...
\_ What investment options have better return than 4% and carry low
risk these days? I only made the required mortgage payment for
the first year or two, thinking that I would invest the extra
money somewhere and get better returns. After a while I changed
my mind and started making extra payments towards the principal
instead. I'm 34 and have a wife and a kid.
\_ You choose wisely!
\_ also, guy was saying: doing better than losing 4% per year
due to mortgage interest
\_ I bonds are paying 4.8% currently. Granted your earnings
will be taxed, but your mortgage interest rate stays the
same for 30 years, and it won't surprise me at all if
one year down the road, you'll be getting say 5.5% from
two years down the road, you'll be getting say 6% from
I bonds, and pocketing the spread. The bigger question,
however, is why you are so risk averse. At 34, I presume
you are far from retirement and your kid far from college.
you need to grow your money to prepare for those.
(note that I bonds interest earnings are exempt from
state and local income taxes, and if used to finance
education, may be exempt from federal taxes too.)
\_ I am 32 and I think there's some benefit to having a
mortgage and keeping cash. I know a woman with
millions in cash who still has an $800,000 mortgage
on her $2M house. Why drop $1.2M for something that is
costing only $4K/month? On the other hand, I am paying
on her $2M house. Why drop $800K more for something that
is costing only $4K/month? On the other hand, I am paying
extra on my mortgage because I want it paid in 15-20
years instead of 30. It would be great to be 50 and
have no mortgage. Not only would retirement be better,
but those 15 years before then could be great (e.g.
travel) without that big monthly expense. So I see
myself as a compromise. My mortgage (principal) is one
investment I make, but not close to my only one.
\_ yes, but if (granted, a big if) you invest well,
you would have plenty of liquid asset on hand,
that you could use to pay off your mortgage anytime
you want. that's my goal and strategy.
\_ Of course, which is why I say it's not my only
investment. However, by cutting years off of my
mortgage and saving lots of money in interest I
am doing myself a favor. I invest more OUTSIDE
of my mortgage. People putting every available
extra dollar towards their house are misguided,
I think. I knew a girl who was a performance
artist/exotic dancer. When she retired (at a young
age by necessity) she had saved $500K cash. She
bought a $500K house with it. I am not sure
that's the wisest use of money. I personally
would have taken a small mortgage out on the
place and kept some cash for something else. Same
ideas at work.
\_ You are not the target of Messrs. Lereah and Hsieh ire.
People who have paid off their houses are their objects of
scorn. The concept is that these people should risk some
small percentage of their home equity for a chance to make
more than the rate of a home equity loan. Since you do not
actually own your house or are close to paying it off, you
can and should ignore their taunts.
\_ Actually, anyone with equity is the target. That
equity could be working for you, right?
\_ If you reread the quotes, they are referring directly
to people who have finished off paying their mortgages.
The article itself implies more the "any equity" crowd.
\_ But, really, what's the difference if I owe
$20K or nothing on a, say, $300K house?
\_ Not much. The better question is $100K vs. $20K.
Of course, it's your house. How much you want to
risk is up to you.
\_ I'm just saying the 'finished paying off
their mortgages' distinction seems
unnecessary. Anyone with equity is the
target.
\_ Their word choice is VERY telling. They are
aiming to get those people with a high
amount of equity, not those who are just
5-10 years into their 30 year mortgage.
I'd guess they are looking at older, lower
risk homeowners as their target audience.
\_ If you're 5-10 years into your mortgage
in the Bay Area, you have an enormous
amount of equity. -tom
\_ You need to think of the difference in
terms of years. ie, 50k now = 10 years of
mortgage free living. Whether it's
something you want, it's up to you.
\_ Where does the $50K number come from?
\_ translation: there are not enough naive individual investors
to take risks and shelter our instititutional investment
models to provide steady revenue for our capital investors
who are not willing to take those high-risk investments
themselves.
\_ real translation: we need more idiots to buy houses they
can't afford, and more idiots to refinance their loans
to extract the equity to spend on new cars.
\- why do you hate idio^D^D^D^DAmericans?
\_ yea, naive american investors should learn from the
japanese and put all their money in 0% savings accounts
- real safe!
\_ you should fix that backspace key
\_ The ^D's were meant to be a joke.
Welcome to the net.
\_ Real Sodans use "^H". |
| 2005/8/29 [Uncategorized] UID:39332 Activity:nil |
8/28 Can someone please gimme Hindi translations for the following Yahoo
International Audibles? Thanks.
aankhen hai ki batatein...dikhta nahin kya?
bhooooooot
OYE! chuk de patte
\_ "Hey get loose."
Hai Daiyya..bas bhi karo..log kya kahenge!
Arre dil pe mat le yaar
Kya aap mere saath coffee peene chalenge?
abbey e..offline ho gaya kya, ya Mr.India bana baitha hai?
Lal chasma lagaoon kya?
e chal e shaane..hawa aane de
\_ "Don't act all smart." Literally: "Shut your mouth and move aside
so the air can pass."
Arre...yahin to dhokha kha gaya India.. |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:39333 Activity:nil |
8/28 Worth reposting. James J. Heckman's systematic demolition of
"The Bell Curve":
http://reason.com/9503/dept.bk.HECKMAN.text.shtml
\- FYI: HECKMAN co-won the Econ nobel with UCB Econ Nobel D. MCFADDEN
\_ "For a variety of reasons, treating persons fairly as individuals
may lead to heterogeneity in outcomes among demographic groups.
Denying individual heterogeneity by treating persons as members of
demographic categories will produce disparities in productivity
among demographic groups, reduce economic efficiency, and foster a
sense of injustice among all participants in society." MOTD, I
hardly knew ya. |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:39334 Activity:high |
8/28 50,000 maidens vie to become Swazi King's 13th wife. What the hell?
Are they still living in the 15th century? Also, I wonder if the
princess was listening to rap or hip-hop:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050829/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_swaziland_whipping
\- now the modern amercican 21st century approach would be to turn
it into a REALITY SHOW.
\_ Big win, since it would raise the number of minorities on
prime time network TV.
\_ I find this entire thread unbearably depressing. -- ilyas
\- maybe you were happier in the Age of Aquarius?
Ilyas Inquiry: Are you familar with Jamie Robins?
Is he one of your masters?
\_ Harvard Epidemiology Robins? I site him a lot. My
Dark Master likes him too. I used an example of Robins'
in my last IJCAI paper. -- ilyas
\_ go to bed dude
\- yes, Jamie Robins who looks like Spalding Gray
and who may ride a teenger's bike.
and rides a teenger's bike.
\_ I don't think SWAZILAND has that many TVs. -John
\_ The lucky girl gets a BMW and a cellphone!
\_ But no TV. Go figure.
\_ [format police]
\_ Well, the government is implementing "intelligent design" in
schools across America. What the hell? Are they still living in the
15th century?
\_ What does this have to do with the 15th century? More like
4000 B.C.
\_ One wonders what sorts of social organization were prevalent
in 4000 BC.
\_ Chinese didn't have law prevents brothers and sisters
sleeping on the same bed until something like 1000 BC
or later. just tell you how primitive
Chinese society was at the time... and I assure you
there aren't that many civilization which was as
advanced as Chinese at the time.
\_ Huh?
\_ Interesting. Partha would say that the rule of law is
the basis of civilized society. Ilyas would say it's
property rights. Apparently, you're saying it's the
prohibition against conjugal relationship with one's
siblings. I like the way you think!
\_ I knew I was born too late!
\- just a small point: i think "rule" is
a prior condition for "society" beyond
small family/tribal type units. "rule of
law" often suggests a sense of justice and
adding "civilized" also puts a slightly
editorial spin on things. i'm making an
empirical claim [you need non-anarchy
for society to get beyond a Hobbesian
state of nature. not a normative claim
about "what is good", like is depotism
worse than the SoN, i.e. taking a position
for or against "Live Free or Die"]. --psb
\_ Wow, you've gotten both me AND psb wrong. I like the
way you think! -- ilyas
\_ I knew I was born thirty centuries late!
\- The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle
\_ dude, let them be. There is nothing wrong with their way of life.
\_ Polygamists make baby Jesus cry.
\_ Ok fine. Uh, 2000-1500 BC.
\_ really? would you change places with any random person in their
society? would you want our society to emulate theirs?
\_ Why is the king's own daughter in that party?
\_ Why is the king's own daughter in that party? He must be a fan of
<DEAD>www.daddydoesdaughter.com<DEAD>
\_ "... a country where 40 percent of adults live with HIV." Wow. |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:39335 Activity:nil |
8/29 There is a talk on neutrinos at SLAC tomorrow @ 7:30 PM:
http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/lectures/info_2005/2005_08_30.htm
\_ My brain is too dense to be penetrated by neutrinos |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:39336 Activity:nil |
8/29 Church says God is punishing American soldiers for
defending a country that harbors gays. God Bless. Amen.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050828/ap_on_re_us/soldier_funeral_protests
\_ Sheesh, yes these guys are disgusting. They're fairly famous
for it. Just generically calling them a church is somewhat
disingenuous IMO. Their webpage: http://www.godhatesfags.com |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:39337 Activity:nil |
8/29 A town called F___ing in Australia in controversy:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050828/wl_uk_afp/britainaustriaoffbeat
\_ Austria != Australia. And this is a pretty old story... I guess
AFP recycles these things.
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fucking_austria_small.jpg |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39338 Activity:nil |
8/29 Whistleblower on Halliburton no-bid $7 billion contract demoted
http://csua.org/u/d6t (LA Times) |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:39340 Activity:nil |
8/29 Whatever happened to the Hmong sharpshooter who killed 6 whities?
\_ STFW, dude. There's plenty of information about that available.
\_ squeeling like a pig in prison |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:39341 Activity:nil |
8/29 Work out question: How important is it to wear a weight belt?
Will I explode or get a hernia if I dont wear one?
\_ do you strain your back? |
| 2005/8/29-31 [Recreation/Computer] UID:39342 Activity:low |
8/29 So after changing a few pics on friendster, I got 2 emails from two
different women. One works at Coca Cola down in Africa, and the
other one with a generic hello, eager for a reply from me. I didn't
post anything spectacular or anything and I'm suspecting that this
is a spam attempt. Has anyone gotten a similar response after
changing pics or specs? Thanks.
\_ Any unsolicited message on one of those services which asks you to
email an outside address is almost certainly a spammer harvesting
addresses. Myspace is plagued with them - the typical approach
being with a profile short on details but featuring a really cute
picture and an insistence that you email as soon as possible.
\_ I dunno. I had some cutie 18 y.o. Brazilian email me on
orkut out of the blue last year. Turns out all she wanted
was an English speaking penpal.
\_ Well, did you "teach" her anything? Come on...
\_ Did she ask for your bank account number so she could transfer $5M to you?
\_ This is a follow-up. I'm the op. I went back to check their
stats, and friendster says "This user doesn't exist." I guess
they are indeed spammers. Whew. When 2 semi-attractive women
send a chubby guy who's not particularly interesting (me),
you've got to wonder if it's too good to be true :( |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:39343 Activity:nil |
8/29 Mail registerme@opera.com on 8/30/05 for an ad-free copy of opera. |
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