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2005/8/11-13 [Uncategorized] UID:39091 Activity:nil
8/11    Own a genuine cthulhu plush doll!
        http://www.kthulhukitsch.com/toys.html  -John
        \_ Okay, that's pretty darned cool.  Thanks for the link.
2005/8/11 [Uncategorized] UID:39092 Activity:nil
8/10    Eric Raymond killed in PNG by Jared Diamond
        http://www.head-hunter.com/images/9head.jpg
        \_ pointless garbage
2005/8/11-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:39093 Activity:low
8/10    I've been getting the following message
            nslookup: Can't open nslookup: No such file or directory
        dozens of times in my .procmailrc log file since the new disk was
        installed.  All mail seems to be delivered fine.  Anyone have
        any ideas what this is about?
        \- you're not trying to run nslookup in any dotfiles that might be
           sourced, are you?
        \_ I looked more closely.  I have some stuff I got from I don't
           even know where.  It's a spambouncer script that I called from
           .procmailrc.  There are the following lines:
                :0
                * NSLOOKUP ?? ^^^^
                { NSLOOKUP="nslookup -timeout=5 -retry=2" }
           To be honest, I'm not even sure what this does, but it didn't
           give me any problems before.  But in the last 6.5 days, I've
           gotten 166 occurances of it in my log file.  -op
           \- why dont you use an absolute path for nslookup
              \_ because, to be honest, I don't even know what it's
                 doing or what the absolute path is.  Can anyone out
                 there educate me?  -op
                 \_ Change
                      "nslookup
                    to
                      "/usr/sbin/nslookup
                 \_ Looks like it's trying to reject mail from machines
                    with invalid hostnames.
                    \_ What would happen if I just removed those lines?
                       Also, is it likely that each time I get the error
                       that an email is not going through? -op
                       \_ Nothing will happen if you remove them.  You
                          probably shouldn't have stuff in your .procmailrc
                          that you don't understand.  -tom
2005/8/11 [Consumer/TV] UID:39094 Activity:nil
8/10    I'm looking for a DVD/video of the show "Perfect Strangers"
        Does anyone know where I can get such a set? Searching online
        is difficult because apparently there's a movie with the
        same name.
        \_ Are you sure it exists?  Adding "bronson pinchot" to the search
           helps yield relevant results, btw.
        \_ <DEAD>tinyurl.com/dseo3<DEAD>
2005/8/11-13 [Recreation/Pets] UID:39095 Activity:moderate
8/11    Insurgents using dogs to deliver bombs:
        http://tinyurl.com/c2vbq (newsday.com)
        \_ kewl, news magazine cover should have Bomb Sniffing dog
          sniffing bomb carrying dog's butt.
           \_ dogs now have a legitament reason to sniff other dogs ass
        \_ now can we call suicide bombers "dum dogs"?
        \_ I wonder if this means that the suicide bomber recruitment pool
           has gotten sparse.
        \_ I like how this (seemingly) horrifies people _more_ than using
           humans.
           \_ Are you seriously going to claim that a dog's life is not worth
              more than that of a terrorist?
              \_ Oh, you're serious.
              \_ ^terrorist^commie  -tom
                  \_ dumbass
                     \_ The Russians actually tried this out in WWII, but the
                        dogs kept coming back to the hand that fed them (and
                        hanging out under tanks and things.)  -John
                        \_ I also recall from my marine mamals class that
                           this has been tried with dolfins, but once the
                           dolfins see another dolfin blow up, the rest all
                           know better.
                           \_ "Dolphins", and for added hilarity you should
                              look up "bat bombs".  -John
           \_ Because one suicidal bomber can now be non-suicidal and use dogs
              to deliver bombs over and over again.  Plus dogs are smaller and
              run faster, so it's harder to shoot.
           \_ The dogs have no choice. It's like using children. Adult
              bombers made a decision, even if perhaps a suspect one.
              \_ Not if the rumors they're often using retards is true.
                 \_ for the purposes of this discussion, you are a retard,
                    to use the perjorative.
           \_ just shoot any dog with a backpack,easy
              \_ Are you suggesting doggie profiling?  What if he's just
                 on his way to work?
                 \_ Then the army should hire more Korean chefs.  Arf.
                 \_ I don't think it's discrimination to suggest we look a
                    little closer at Afghan Hounds.
2005/8/11-15 [Computer/SW/RevisionControl] UID:39096 Activity:nil
8/11    Does anyone here use subversion? I recently switched over to
        subversion from cvs and I'm trying to figure out what the best
        way to back up the repository is (small personal repository).
        Any recommendations?
        \_ Are you using the file backend or the bdb one?
           \_ I'm using the Berkeley db back end (bdb?). My plan was
              to use svn dump and then burn the resulting file to a
              dvd-rw once a week or so.
        \_ I've been using it for about a year (and love it).  If your svn
           server version is 1.2 or higher then your default repository is in
           fsfs format.  You can just copy the repository folders on the fly
           and you should be fine.  Otherwise, look into 'svnadmin dump'.  See
           the svn book at: http://svnbook.red-bean.com in particular:
           http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch05s03.html#svn-ch-5-sect-3.6
           \_ I am using the latest version of subversion (1.2.4?). I read
              that copying the files wasn't a good idea in the subversion
              book, which is why I was asking about this.
2005/8/11-15 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39097 Activity:nil
8/11    More on (moron?) the Freedom Walk
        http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/4944.html
        \_ I'm surprised no one has commented on this.  Is everyone
           on the same page of disgusted?
           \_ No.  Given the general tenor of US politics over the last few
              years, my threshhold for "digusted" has gone stratospheric. -John
2005/8/11-15 [Reference/Religion] UID:39098 Activity:nil
8/11    http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html
        Do you NOT believe in God?
        10%     Americans at large (90% believe)
        24%     Doctors (76% believe)
        31%     Faculty members at top research universities (social sciences)
        38%     Faculty members at top research universities (natural sciences)
        \_ Why is this so interesting?  I mean, yeah -- this country was
           founded around heavy Christian underpinnings (cf Pilgrims, etc) --
           so why would it be a jaw dropper to learn that many Americans
           believe in god (on some form or another)....?
        \_ Erm, you read the results wrong.  31% "do not", 38% "do not".
           I don't understand why "The opposite had been expected"..
           Oh, perhaps because they're comparing "biologists" and "political
           scientists"...  What a bogglingly stupid article.
           \_ Oops, corrected
              Anyway, the "opposite had been expected" is regarding:
              "Based on previous research, we thought that social scientists
              would be less likely to practice religion than natural
              scientists are, but our data showed just the opposite," Ecklund
              said.
              What happened was:
              (1) Ooh, early research (not specified) shows common sense wrong!
              (2) Wait, new research shows common sense was right!
              (3) Oh, we also see that the MAJORITY of faculty members at top
                  research universities also believe in God -- they're not all
                  atheists!
              Anyways, yeah, article is confusing.
              \_ I'm guessing this is the same Ecklund.
                 http://www.chestertonhouse.org/ecklundbio.html
                 I'm also guessing, in psb-speak, she's TOO SHORT.
        \_ Where does the 90% number come from?
           \_ Harris poll 2003.  Fox News says 92%.
              \_ Liar.  The Harris poll said 79%.  The same poll said 90% of
                 Protestants (which is fucking hilarious) believe in God.
                 \_ http://csua.org/u/d0n
                    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99945,00.html
                    I'm waiting for your apology
                    \_ None will be forthcoming
                       http://csua.org/u/d0o (harrisinteractive.com)
                       I will retract "liar" in favor of "bad researcher"
                       \_ http://csua.org/u/d0p (harrisinteractive.com)
                          I still await your apology.
                          Did it occur to you that there may have been more
                          than one Harris poll in 2003?
                          \_ Okay, I apologize to you, and fall back on my
                             longstanding opinion that harris is one of the
                             worst polling firms ever.
                             \_ I'm not going to comment on the latter, but I
                                will say the reason for the difference between
                                79% and 90% polls is that the 90% poll was
                                binary (yes / no), and the 79% poll was
                                (yes / not sure / no).
                                Shrug.  The best poll would be (yes /
                                yes not sure / not sure / no not sure / no),
                                probably / not sure / probably not / no),
                                and it wouldn't be conducted online.
                             \_ "The best lack all convictions, while the worst
                                Are full of passionate intensity."
                                \_ Ever worked with Harris?
                                \_ The not sure lack conviction.  The sure have
                                   conviction.
                                   \_ "Liar" -> "bad researcher" -> "Okay,
                                      I apologize."  "The worst are full of
                                      passionate intensity."
                                      \_ In three motd posts he showed me I
                                         was wrong, and I admitted it.  In
                                         motd terms, that's practically
                                         impassionate.
                                         \_ That doesn't happen often on motd,
                                            man.  More power to ya!
              \_ Is it 90% general American believing, or 90% not believing?
                 \_ Former.
                 \_ What do you think?
        \_ Forget about the ID debate.  This, from the same web site, is more
           interesting:
           "Surprise! 1-in-25 Dads Not the Real Father"
           http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050810_whose_child.html
           I'd think this means the ratio of cheating women is higher than 1 in
           25.  Perhaps we should spend more time on tracking our wives/gfs
           rather than on God/no-God debate.
           \_ or maybe you should find out if your father is your real
              father.  hehe.
              \_ But I care much less about having a cheating mom (except being
                 proof that she's a lier) than a cheating wife.
        \_ The smarter you are, the less you believe in fairy tales.
           Does this surprise you?
        \_ Why does this survey ask "Do you not believe in God?" instead of "Do
           you believe in God?"
           \_ They don't give the methodology in this report.  Another reason
              it's a STUPID article.
           \_ to give a false impression that the opposite is 100% - n.  That's not
              true.  90% doesn't believe doesn't mean 10% does.  There is probably
              some percentage of don't cares or couldn't decide.
           \_ to give a false impression that the opposite is 100% - n.
              That's not true.  90% doesn't believe doesn't mean 10% does.
              There is probably some percentage of don't cares or couldn't
              decide. [ reformatted ]
        \_ Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the
           wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. -Seneca
           \_ Rulers in Communist China think it's dangerous.
           \_ communist think just killing them off is more easier
            than using religion to control the common people.
2005/8/11-15 [Uncategorized] UID:39099 Activity:nil
8/12    Does anyone here have any experience with Windows GINA programming?  I
        would love to ask you a few questions.  -John
2005/8/11-15 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39100 Activity:low
8/11    Dubya:  "I sympathize with Mrs. Sheehan ... She feels strongly about
        her position. She has every right in the world to say what she
        believes. This is America. She has a right to her position. And I've
        thought long and hard about her position. I've heard her position from
        others, which is, 'Get out of Iraq now.'"
        Mrs. Sheehan:  "All we're asking is that he sacrifice an hour out of
        his five-week vacation to talk to us, before the next mother loses her
        son in Iraq."
        http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/11/bush.ap/index.html
        Strawman = Mrs. Sheehan wants Dubya to pull out troops now.
        I love politics!
        \_ Sheehan already talked with Bush.  Why do you care what she says?
           \_ As facts change, opinions change.
              \_ Typical flipfliping homosexual fraceophile democrat.
              \_ Typical flipfloping homosexual franceophile democrat.
              \_ Typical flipfliping homosexual franceophile democrat.
                                                \_ Francophile
                                                   \_ wrong. its franceophile.
                                                      link:csua.org/u/d0t
                                                      \_ Bzzzt!:
                                                      http://tinyurl.com/8zsp3
                                                      http://tinyurl.com/bt9zf
                                                      http://tinyurl.com/7twjr
                                                      http://tinyurl.com/9mbbt
                                                      link:tinyurl.com/dbkas
                                                      \_ What is your point?
                                                         \_ I bet BUD DAY
                                                            wouldn't have to
                                                            ask!
                                                            \_ mice was eaten
                                                               by a troll.
                                                               \_ Er?  -mice
                                                               \_ Can't I be
                                                                  eaten by a
                                                                  grue?  That
                                                                  sounds much
                                                                  more fitting.
                                                                          -mice
                 Eternal values never change!
              Like, there were WMDs!  We can win!  Good, let's get Saddam.
              There were no WMDs!  Um, can we win?  Get Dubya to level with us.
        \_ Was her son a volunteer soldier? Reservist? National Guard?
           \_ Volunteer marine.  Had reenlisted.
              \_ Um, wow, no.  He was Army.
              \_ So what's she complaining about? He wanted to be there.
2005/8/11-15 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39101 Activity:nil
8/11    Surprisingly good Rolling Stone article about a month in the life of
        the current Congress, and how it really works these days:
        http://csua.org/u/d0q (rollingstone.com)
        The section on China, Westinghouse, and the Ex-Im Bank is particularly
        fascinating and infuriating.
2005/8/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:39102 Activity:nil
8/11    The 9/11 Comissiong in Mortal Danger
        http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_08_07_corner-archive.asp
        Did DoD lawyers blow the chance to nab Atta?
        http://www.gsnmagazine.com/aug_05/dod_lawyers.html
        Was Berger after Able Danger documents?
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