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| 2005/8/2-4 [Recreation/Dating] UID:38923 Activity:moderate |
8/2 Dear obliviously happily married for 9 years guy-- how's the sex life?
What do you do about it?
\_ Have sex! Be respectful, sensitive, honest, and adventurous.
\_ Not as good since my wife has been gaining and losing pounds at the
wrong spots. -- some other guy
\_ Here's a wacky question: Am I the only guy whose tastes are
aging along with my body? I'm not saying I'm not attracted to
an 18yo hard-body, but women my own age are simply much more
attractive.
\_ My tastes are aging, but not as fast as I am.
\_ Ditto. What's hard for most women is that after 45 or 50
they lose their ability to have babies and thus lose
sex appeal. That's a generalization, of course, but I
can't imagine being 65 and being physically attracted to
a 65 year old as much as I would be to a 35 year old.
However, looks aren't everything.
\_ Um, I think it's safe to say the loss of sex appeal has
nothing to do with the ability to have children.
Has the fact that in our culture sexual attraction is
completely conceptually divorced from having children
completely passed you by? -- ilyas
\_ I don't think that is always true under the surface.
\_ I don't think that is true under the surface.
\_ I don't think that is true under the surface. -foo
\_ Yeah, I really think it is. What about beautiful,
but sterile women? What about fertile ugly
women? Have you ever been, you know, attracted
to someone? Are you some special kind of
Christian or just stupid? -- ilyas
\_ I think you are confusing a hidden common cause
(the breakdown of the body due to aging) with
directional causation. -- ilyas
\_ Well, this is a kind of subtle subject to
go on about on the motd. I'll just maintain
that I don't think the ideas are "completely
divorced". Obviously an animal wouldn't be
able to learn the concept of being sterile
on that level. However I think I saw some
study where if partners go without children
for too long then attraction is harmed. So
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a subtle
biological link. But there's also an
intellectual link in humans. Humans are able
to understand explicitly the "child bearing"
qualities of a woman, and nowadays can
understand the sterility thing too. I think
that sexual attraction or at least excitement
can definitely be affected by ideas related to
getting pregnant. I'll leave it at that. -foo
getting pregnant. I'll leave it at that.
Oh and I'm not a Christian. I don't give a shit
if you think I'm stupid. -foo
\_ The idea being that whether or not a beautiful
woman is sterile we are hardwired to want to
breed with her. I'm talking about primal urges,
not about 'attracted to someone'. We find
younger women sexier because they can give us
babies. I disagree that sexual attraction is
divorced from having children. The two are
tied together fundamentally, even now.
\_ Ok, I am afraid I stand by my assessment of
your argument. Animals and people cannot
afford to be attracted to binary attributes.
The reason is very simple, almost any adult
animal is fertile. Being attracted to
fertility itself means the engine of
natural selection cannot function. Thus,
animals are attracted to 'secondary
characterics' that correlate with producing
a lot of fertile offspring (the biological
definition of fitness). Notice that this
definition has nothing to do with fertility
of your mate per se. Or rather, the
fertility of your mate is the bare minimum
that isn't even taken into account by the
forces of attraction, because it is _assumed_.
Are you a Christian? Your argument smacks of
the kind of vague feel-goodism you get from
certain kinds of Christians who see God's plan
in everything, without truly understanding
what it might be. -- ilyas
forces of attraction, because it is
_assumed_. Are you a Christian? Your
argument smacks of the kind of vague
feel-goodism you get from certain kinds of
Christians who see God's plan in everything,
without truly understanding what it might
be. -- ilyas
\_ Being attracted to fertility itself
is the reason dirty old men like
nubile young women. You can feel
free to disagree, but this seems
fundamental to me. There is no
biological gain having sex with a
female partner over 50.
\_ Do you honestly not see the fundamental
flaw in your logic? -- ilyas
\_ No. Please point it out.
\_ Your argument: 'Old men like
nubile young women. Nubile young
women can have children.
Therefore old men like fertility.'
This is fallacious. -- ilyas
\_ Your opinion. I don't
see any flaw in the
logic, though.
\_ Uh, wow. Mr. Gerasimatos,
you are one amazing guy.
-- ilyas
\_ Thanks. Now prove to
me why line #3 *cannot*
follow from #1 and #2.
It's an observation,
not a mathematical
proof. Whether it is
fallacious or not is
only your opinion. You
are saying that #3 does
not necessarily follow
from #1 and #2, but
your statement that
#3 is thus fallacious
does not follow.
\_ Maybe you should
reread what the PP
originally said. His
point seems far less
extremist than your
interpretation. -mice
\_ No, mice, at this
point I am staggering
from the 'I see no
flaw' comment.
\_ Hmm. Okay, up
to that point,
I think you're
a little off in
your read -- but
I'll concede that
the PP seems to
wander out into
the weeds after
that point. -mice
\_ For the record,
I think pp is
wrong in a
wider sense as
well, for
reasons I
stated. Almost
all animals are
evolved well
enough to be
healthy and
fertile as a
norm. Thus,
the great
reproductive
game is
centering around
centering
around
how well
reproduction
will work, not
whether it will.
whether it
will.
-- ilyas
\_ I disagree.
I think
animals
have
preferences,
too. There
is an age
at which
animals
are too
young or
too old
to be
considered
good
partners
for
breeding.
\_ Old men like nubile
young women. Nubile
young women can eat
prunes. Therefore old
men like regular
bowels. -geordan
\_ Stop -- you're turning
me on! Oh geordan,
you animal, do I have
an unexpected *back
door* delivery for
_you_!!
\_ Depends how much you believe in the
Selfish Gene.
\_ Stifler's mom.
\_ Exactly -- I don't find her attractive at all.
\_ Great. We've learned over the years how to pleasure each other
more and more. I know what makes her happy and she knows what makes
me happy. --9 years happily married
\_ I haven't been married for so long, but I've found sex with long
term girlfriends gets better. Practice makes perfect.
me happy. --9 years and happily married
\_ Sex is always better with the long term girlfriends when
you're married. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:38929 Activity:nil |
8/2 Can someone define "social justice" for me?
\_ "Social Justice" is someone's idea of how things ought to be
run. Depending on that person, it could mean universal health
care, or executions for all murderers.
\_ A simple definition would be "A fair society" where 'fair' is a
matter of debate, but it is more commonly used by Liberals to
refer to helping some disadvantaged group. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Computer/HW/IO] UID:38930 Activity:nil |
8/2 Apple debuts multi-button mouse:
http://www.apple.com/mightymouse
Will wonders never cease?
\_ http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000450052910
Reviews on the mouse.
"I've never seen a mouse with a clitoris before. Looks like it
would be good digital stimulation practice for most men."
\_ Hell froze over!
\_ Wow! What an innovation! I wonder if the one who wrote the
marketing text feels embarrassed.
\_ Multiple buttons isn't the innovation: the lack of *buttons*
is the innovation. It's like the clickwheel on the iPod.
also it can be configured as single/multi depending on
who logs in.
\_ No wireless version. Poo.
\_ Yeah, and its not l4z3r powered like my 1337 logitech
mouse either. I'm getting a dell! |
| 2005/8/2 [Uncategorized] UID:38931 Activity:low |
8/2 To the guy who replaced all the links with girl pics: I like
the girl pics, but I probably would have liked to see
the original links too. Next time, would you please
just add your links instead of overwriting others? --PeterM
\_ I restored what I had. -jrleek
\_ Thanks for all the links. I just got a hard-on in my cube.
\_ Thanks for all the links. I just got a hard-on in my cube. Amanda
is the best! |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:38932 Activity:nil |
8/2 Go Hillary Go!
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0507.cannon.html
\_ Well, the article does lay down all the reasons for !Hillary
pretty well.
\_ I'd do her.
\_ Yup, considering how hot she is.
http://www.bigcheesepress.com/jones/hillary.jpg
\_ All the chicks Bill sleeps with on the side are less hot than
Hillary, maybe she's really bad in the sack. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Uncategorized] UID:38933 Activity:nil |
8/2 Probably old news to some of you, but:
http://www.google.com/ig |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:38934 Activity:nil |
8/2 Save CBGB's!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050802/ap_en_mu/music_cbgb_eviction |
| 2005/8/2 [Uncategorized] UID:38935 Activity:low |
8/2 Crosswalk button hacks. Anyone tried this? "Instant Walk." Three
short clicks, followed by two long, one short, two long, and
three short; turn any crosswalk signal from "don't walk" to "walk"
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/06/crosswalk_button_hacks.html
\_ You do know that bbspot is a parody site, right?
\_ If you hadn't posted your reply, I was literally minutes away
from running around town like an idiot pushing sequences into
crosswalk buttons.
\_ Oh, darn :)
\_ I guess by the time one finishes that sequence, it's time for the
signal to change by itself anyway.
\_ Well, you punch it in and nothing happens. So then you try
it again, figuring you got the pauses wrong. And then again.
And then the light changes so you tell everyone it works... |
| 2005/8/2 [Uncategorized] UID:38936 Activity:nil |
8/2 cfarivar@ocf: Spoilsport or journalist?
http://slate.msn.com/id/2123673/?nav=ais |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:38937 Activity:nil |
8/2 In Europe, ground floor is 0 instead of 1.
\_ No, Ground floor is "ground floor". Not "0"
\_ The question is whether the "first floor" is 1 or 2.
\_ Survery: Countries/regions where the floor above ground floor is:
1st floor: Europe
2nd floor: USA
Hong Kong
Japan
\_ What makes people think this is regional? I have been in both
types of buildings even in the same office complex.
\_ The architect should be shot.
\_ Not the same building, but the same campus. I'm sure there
were different architects.
\_ My apartment in Oakland (~1910 hotel) had G, 1, 2, 3
\- the ground floor convention depends on whether the
bldg was designed by an analyst or a number theorist. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:38938 Activity:nil |
8/2 Best headline ever:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=337901&cc=5901
\_ Seconded.
\_ Thirded
\_ How about this one: http://csua.org/u/cw5
\_ AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!
\_ Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
\_ Yuck! |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:38939 Activity:nil |
8/2 How do you create an NDMP user/pass on a netapp? The docs seem to
tell me how to check a given user for a password but not set up a
new user. thanks.
\_ Just use the admin/root user. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:38940 Activity:nil |
8/2 That's pretty funny. Last week Iran said they would resume uranium
enrichment. Dubya called them on that. Iran backed down. Then
we have reports yesterday of the National Intelligence Estimate saying
the consensus is that Iran is 10 years away from a nuclear weapon -- at
best. Now Iran today says, fuggit, we're enriching.
Diplomacy at work! |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:38941 Activity:nil |
8/2 This was an interesting read about an rich vs. poor riot in China.
http://csua.org/u/cvy
\_ Note to self: If surrounded by an angry mob, do not smirk and
wave dismissively.
\_ I hate to say this, but... I'm with the people. I don't agree
with the senseless destruction of precious goods like Toyota
sedans, but I think they really should have beat the shit out of
Wu and his two body guards who act like mafias in the 40s.
\_ herein lies the answer to the question "what's social justice [or
lack thereof]" below.
\_ Note how the rich dude and his two bodyguards got through completely
unscathed (except for rich dude's car), while the computer-guy bike
rider was left needing wires for his jaw and a nose job.
The only person who lost out was the supermarket owner, who actually
did the people a service having lived there 20 years.
\_ If you're rich in China, you can get away with beating people.
If you're rich in America, you can get away with murder.
If you're rich in Mexico, you can do anything you want.
It is good to be rich.
\_ Not in a real communist country. Check out what happened to
the rich in China in the 50s. All rich guys were
automatically labeled "evil" and tortured.
\_ Well, most of the wealthy rich people escaped to HK
Taiwan or Phillipines so that they can continue using
their wealth and power to influence politics that
support their agendas. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:38942 Activity:kinda low |
8/2 What happens when your pilot doesn't know how to land a plane
correctly: (Paris -> Toronto, 309 passengers, Airbus 340)
http://csua.org/u/cw6 (Yahoo! News slideshow)
"Leah Walker, a radio reporter in Toronto, said she saw a third of the
plane fall and that the rest became a fireball." ...
Marx said he initially didn't think anything was wrong. But then,
"The guy I was with piped up, 'You know, he's getting pretty close to
the end.' Immediately afterward, right off he went."
\_ Isn't the A340 supposed to be auto-everything?
\_ Wheew. Apparently no one died:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8801366
\_ The pilot has killed himself:
\_ The pilot has killed himself: --danh
http://csua.org/u/cwc
\_ Some of you guys have wierd senses of humor.
\_ I laughed. Does that mean I'm demented?
\_ Yermummy!
\_ Whoever enjoys signing my name to the motd, I do
\- "Whomever" --psb
not add "--" to the beginning of my name, try
only 1 dash next time. - danh
\- The time has come for:
http://home.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Articles/News/SQ-crash1.txt
http://home.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Articles/News/SQ-crash2.txt
\_ I don't get it, why was this posted?
\_ I dunno but it made me look up the real facts:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/nov2000/air-07n.shtml
Oh and haha, I just noticed it's from "world socialist"
web site. Whatever. I guess this is better:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/world/issues/taiwancrash
If anyone cares.
\_ CNN - complete waste of airwaves... they can't report
anything on happening in real-time. -cnn_sufferer
anything on real, happening events. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38943 Activity:nil |
8/2 You gotta love the more...direct qualities of international news
outlets. For instance, Hong Kong's Standard on Bolton nomination:
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/Focus/GH03Dh02.html |
| 2005/8/2 [Recreation/Media] UID:38944 Activity:high |
8/2 Which came first.. the South Park episode about special olympics
and steroids? Or the Family Guy episode about special olympics
and steroids? Someone has got to pay. Dammit, don't nuke this,
I must know.
\_ since Family Guy looks like Michael Moore, i'd have to
say South Park came first
\_ Family Guy episode first aired 12/20/2001. Dunno for the South
Park, but I would guess it was later.
\_ Family Guy episode first aired 12/20/2001. South Park was 3/24/04.
Some day you will realize Parker and Stone for the hacks they've
always been. And you shall walk in the light eternal
\_ While I don't disagree about South Park, I have to note the
vast majority of Family Guy plots were ripped from the Simpsons.
Except the Family Guy doesn't have the notion of a Halloween
Except Family Guy doesn't have the notion of a Halloween
special. They are all like that. -- ilyas
\_ I think trying to evaluate shows like Family Guy or The
Simpsons based on "how original is the plot" is missing the
point. They both ironically poke fun at standard sitcoms
by recycling their plots, so pointing out that they have
similar plots doesn't mean the Simpsons is "being ripped
off".
by recycling their plots, so just because they have similar
plots doesn't mean the Simpsons is being "ripped off".
\_ Eh, if SP had stopped after a handful of seasons, they might
have managed to remain funny.
\_ Simpsons started making me sad when all the writers left for
Futurama. -- ilyas
\_ I will answer your questiong with another question: "Which
came first the chicken or the egg?" I believe it is provable
that this more general question implys your question. CS170
buffs are welcome to comlete said proof. -mrauser
\_ This is such a stupid false dilemma. Eggs evolved before
chickens. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:38945 Activity:nil |
8/2 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050802/ap_on_hi_te/fox_in_myspace From Fox News to the Internet, Rupert Murdoch is dominating media. Now, all your anti-Murdoch messages beyong to us. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:38946 Activity:nil |
8/2 Can we PLEASE get a petition of Douglas Adams fans together to name
the 10th Planet "Rupert?"
http://csua.org/u/cwb (yahoo! news)
\_ Dear god, I hope your petition not only fails, but is subsequently
taken out back and shot. twice.
\_ you mean 9th, amirite??
\_ Someone didn't read Mostly Harmless.
\_ Someone is going to be a pathetic geek all his life.
\_ There's an irony in calling someone a "pathetic geek" on
the CSUA motd, but it may very well be lost on you. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Health/Disease/AIDS] UID:38947 Activity:nil |
8/2 New drug blocks HIV from entering cells
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200507070204.html
"[T]the drug sticks to a protein called CCR5 that acts as an entrance
into human cells for the AIDS virus. When the new drug becomes
attached to the protein, it can prevent HIV from entering, and thus
stop the virus from spreading."
What does this protein do when it's not being used as a gateway?
\_ I don't get it, why was this posted?
\_ I'm curious to see what effect blocking this protein
would have on a human being. -op
\_ [reply moved to correct thread] |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:38948 Activity:nil |
8/2 XP question. The C function CreateThread() returns both a thread ID
and a thread handle. What's the difference between them? Thx.
\_ A thread handle lets you do stuff with the thread, like kill it
(TerminateThread) or get its exit code (GetExitCodeThread). A
thread id is just a number, and all you can do with it is call
OpenThread to get a thread handle. Thread ids and thread handles
are exactly analogous to filenames and file handles -- CreateThread
is like a function that creates a new file, and returns both an
open file handle and the name of the file. Usually all you care
about is the handle. --mconst
\_ Very helpful! Thanks! |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Science/Biology, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38949 Activity:high |
8/2 Bush comes out in support of teaching "intelligent design":
http://csua.org/u/cwg (yahoo! news)
\_ "People might cite George Bush as proof that you can be
totally impervious to the effects of Harvard and Yale
education."
\_ It's those damned C students!
\_ 55% of Americans (including 47% of Kerry voters) believe "God
created humans in present form". 27% believe "humans evolved, God
guided the process". A mere 13% believe "humans evolved, God did
not guide process". About 2/3 of Americans want creationism taught
along with evolution. "Intelligent design" is solidly in the
mainstream of American thought.
\_ It's safe to say that Bay Area is the opposite of mainstream.
I'm not sure if this is anything to be proud of anymore.
\_ We shouldn't be proud of teaching our students um, science in
science classes?
\_ 95% of Americans don't know what "Intelligent Design" means.
\_ Yes, I lent her my assault rifle? Sorry, did I miss something?
\_ Creationism IS taught alongside evolution, just not in the same
school.
\_ The ironic part is that most Protestant denominations,
the Catholic Church, and a fair chunk of Judaism have
accepted evolution as part of God's plan.
\_ What's amusing is that, when I was at a fairly religious
(protestant) jr. high school, the biology teacher, who was
an extremely religious man, made it clear that he felt it
was his duty that we were taught evolution even if he
himself believed otherwise (he never ever said this in the
context of a class, and even outside of class only when we
pressed him on the matter.) We had to take religion
classes, but even then they made very sure to only present
creationism and its ilk as "something some people believe
in". -John
\_ Wouldn't that make it "Intelligent Design"?
\_ No. Intelligent Design is a creationist critique of
evolutionary theory. It has nothing to do with
science, and everything to do with Biblical literalism.
\_ Huh, well, stick me in with the other 95% of
Americans I guess. According to Wikipedia, I
was thinking of Theistic evolution.
\_ Um, ID is formulated as a scientific hypothesis, from
what I understand of it. There was a long ass motd
what I understand of it. There was a long motd
discussion about it a while ago, complete with tom
making an ass of himself and everything. -- ilyas |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:38950 Activity:nil |
8/2 In 1998, Susan Cummings, heiress of the late billionaire arms
dealer Sam Cummings, murdered Roberto Villegas at her 2.3 million
dollar vacation home. She was proven to have shot him in the back,
withdrew her self-defense claim, and was found be guilty of
voluntary manslaughter. She was sentenced to 60 days in jail
and a $2500 fine.
In 2005, a rich Chinese lord had his 2 bodyguards beat up a
peasant boy who now needs wires for his jaw and a nose job,
was not guilty of anything and gets away clean.
All hail great Capitalism! I guess China is catching up to
our great nation.
\_ Ooo Susan was born in Switzerland. Did you know her, John?
\_ Yes, I lent her my assault rifle? Sorry, did I miss something?
\_ http://www.washingtonfreepress.org/65/crimeBeingPoor.htm
In the same county a year before Cummings' trial, a cow killer
was sentenced to 9 months in jail, woman who shoplifted got
135 days, a car thief 5 years, a purse thief 15 months, and
a man who fired into an empty dwelling got 2 years. Hmm... |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:38951 Activity:nil |
8/2 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050802/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians Palestinians fire on pissed off Israeli mob. Maybe it's time the Israelis start suicide bombing the Palestinians. \_ "Militant attacks against Israelis had dropped off after a February truce between Israel and the Palestinians. In recent weeks, however, as the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza approaches, militants have stepped up attacks to try to portray the Israeli pullout as a military victory for the Palestinians." Dur! \_ Why use suicide bombers, when you can just fire rockets from a helicopter? The whole story is actually rather amusing, in a morbid kind of way. \_ The whole story has a great morbid humour to it. Those two sides deserve each other. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:38952 Activity:nil |
8/2 French men can bike but they can't fly.
\_ Do we call French airline passengers Freedom Fries now? |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Consumer/Camera, Politics/Domestic/HateGroups] UID:38953 Activity:nil |
8/2 Is Jessica Lynch hot? http://csua.org/u/cwe (Yahoo! News Photo) \_ White Trash extreme makeovers! \_ Something done to her face and hair for sure. Damn Hollywood. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Recreation/Humor] UID:38954 Activity:nil |
8/2 Read them all, they are all pretty funny:
http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/show-them-the-code
\_ Man, my geek-fu is weak. I don't get any of these. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:38959 Activity:nil |
8/2 Here's one for you mr. short g00gle guy. The reasonable
person uses google:
http://www.internetcases.com/archives/2005/08/google_and_the.html
\_ I'm not the short-google guy, but what does this have to do with
google being priced high, low, or just right?
\_ google is such an integral part of the world that its current
valuation is probably TOO low. |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38960 Activity:nil |
8/2 Ok, all you Bush-haters, in case you haven't seen this clip:
http://www.toccionline.kizash.com/films/1001/138/index.php |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Uncategorized] UID:38961 Activity:nil 50%like:38955 |
8/2 FTP back. Quit yer complainin. - jvarga
\_ Yeah!!! Thank you thank you!!! |
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