|
2005/6/27 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:38308 Activity:nil |
6/27 "If you look up 'last throes,' it can mean a violent last throe," Rumsfeld said on ABC's "This Week." Violence may escalate, he said, because insurgents "have so much to lose between now and December." "Insurgencies tend to go on five, six, eight, 10, 12 years," Rumsfeld said on "Fox News Sunday." |
2005/6/27-28 [Computer/SW/P2P] UID:38309 Activity:nil |
6/27 Supreme court rules against Grokster and Streamcast in Grokster vs. MGM Discuss. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/27/technology/27cnd-grokster.html \_ All your torrents are belong to us. Unanimously. \_ Better tack an extra 1% onto Federal income tax, because, who knows, everyone could download illegal shit. http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php -John \_ The reason SCOTUS ruled unanimously against Grokster was because of internal e-mails, business-to-business e-mails, and interviews where Grokster reps clearly wrote that a core purpose of their software Grokster reps clearly said that a core purpose of their software was to take over the Napster user base, which was losing users rapidly because they put in controls on copyrighted media -- right? If this is the case, then for Grokster specifically, this is open and shut boys and girls. I don't believe there was any fundamental change in any policy. change in any law. If Comcast wrote in internal e-mails, "We want to improve bandwidth so all the people trading the z3r0-d4y will keep their subscriptions with us!" then they'd be fucked too. If, on the other hand, the creator of BitTorrent is on-record as saying he's never used the software he created to download a single pirated file (he beta'd the software with pr0n) ... well, maybe you can go after businesses trying to make money off BitTorrent. The only things interesting IMO are that: lower courts were so farking stupid to write that Grokster was covered under Betamax; and that media is covering this as if SCOTUS ruled against P2P software in general. \_ "The record is replete with evidence that from the moment Grokster and StreamCast began to distribute their free software, each one clearly voiced the objective that recipients use it to download copyrighted works, and each took active steps to encourage infringement" -Souter |
2005/6/27-28 [Computer/Networking] UID:38310 Activity:nil |
6/27 A big win for cable companies: http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/27/technology/broadband_ruling |
2005/6/27 [Uncategorized] UID:38311 Activity:nil |
6/27 The Next Big Idea (for liberals): http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2005/06/26/the-next-big-idea |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:38312 Activity:kinda low |
6/27 I'm a Taiwanese citizen and my password renewal is only $36 at the Taiwanese Cultural Center (Embassy in Los Angeles) and takes about 2-3 weeks. My gf is a US citizen and her passport renewal is $55 and takes about 6 weeks. Her expedited fee is $60. Can someone tell me why there's a big difference? Like government more/less efficient, funding issues, 9/11 background check, etc? \_ It isn't a big difference. \_ Perhaps tw population is only 23 million, and u.s. is 300 million? \_ Probably because they assume Americans have more money. When I applied for a travel visa at the Chinese consulate in SF it was $100, but a lot cheaper for Chinese citizens. \_ Shrug, I didn't do expedited and my U.S. passport came in the mail in 10 days last year. \_ I got my US passport in about a week as well. \_ American government worker efficiency can be easily characterized as those who work as efficiently as DMV. Go Europe!!! Fuck America! \_ Cheap Taiwanese labor \_ Seriously though - when you renew your Taiwanese passport (or any other foreign passports) in their respective embassies/consulates, you seldom get the maximum renewal period. So if you go back to Taiwan and renew your Taiwanese passport there, you might get 6 extra years while here in LA you only get 3 years extension. The idea is to give you enough time and encourage you to renew back in Taiwan. US passports are more expensive to renew, BUT you get something like 5-10 extra years, so the $$$ is a wash. \- this is an artificial number. the time is what the govt wants it to be. it's like asking why library A allows 3weeks + 3 renewals and another library allows 1month + 2 renewals. however the costs may be affected by the USD exchange rate. |
2005/6/27-28 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:38313 Activity:high 66%like:37321 |
6/27 How's that Google short going? \_ I think Google buyers have lost their damned minds. \_ you thought that when it was at 100, and you didn't have any justification for it then. What is your justification now? -tom \_ Same as it was then: overvalued. It was overvalued at 100. \_ According to what? -tom \_ Well, P/E of 120 is a bit higher than normal. \_ Normal compared to what? What about forward P/E? You can't just look at a number in a column at http://finance.yahoo.com and conclude that a stock is overvalued (or undervalued). -tom \_ So buy some options instead of shorting the stock directly: Controlled downside as well as upside. \_ yeah, you can only lose 100% of your investment! -tom \_ http://www.smartmoney.com/pricecheck/index.cfm?story=worksheet&symbol=GOOG&nav=pc_snaps \_ Better than losing 10x your investment... \_ You can avoid this by buying a mix of call and get options. \_ Most people should leave the hedges for professionals. (Certainly people who were planning to short Google at 100 should.) -tom \_ Heh, most professionals should leave hedges to professionals should leave the hedges to someone else as well. I understand most hedge funds fail. \_ http://csua.org/u/ciy -not the GOOG short guy \_ A few things about a tool like this. It's useful, and a lot more meaningful than looking at P/E ratio. But there are a number of subjective assumptions in the design, which not everyone may agree with, and the numbers they are plugging in are conjecture at best. Will Google grow at a 31% average annual rate over the next 5 years? Right now it's growing at a 100% average annual rate. If you set the 5-year EPS growth rate to 50%, that calculator spits out $384 as a price. If you leave the EPS growth rate at 31% and set the "perpetual" EPS growth rate to 5% it spits out $305. If you set the benchmark return to 7% it spits out $340. In summary: You have to know what all those numbers mean to use that calculator to come up with a valuation. -tom \_ Valid points, but I think it's clear you are a GOOG shill at this point. I still think I will be right in the end. I've had arguments with people over stocks like ENE that I seemed to have lost at the time, too. GOOG stockholders are a cult at this point. No one in their right mind would buy that POS at current valuations. It's (so far) a self-fulfilling prophecy. In fact, I will put my money where my mouth is and buy puts on this dog. \_ I am not a GOOG shill. I do not own GOOG and I never have. I just am tired of people who clearly know nothing about investing making pronouncements \_ "know nothing...making pronouncements"... to hear those words from tom. like "GOOG is overvalued at $100", when $100 would currently mean a forward P/E of $15. Its forward P/E is lower than Yahoo or EBay (two other stocks I don't own). And to call it a "POS" is ridiculous; this is a company that is currently growing revenues at 100% per year! The Google story is not about the stock price. -tom |
2005/6/27-28 [Uncategorized] UID:38314 Activity:nil 60%like:38321 |
6/27 How much do people trust http://www.anonymizer.com Do they have a good reputation for privacy, and how much can they protect your infomation if they are subpoenaed? |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38315 Activity:nil |
6/27 Pro-Iraq-War editorial: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006876 (login with: dontbug@coldmail.com) \_ Eh, try Pro-Iraq-War editorial. And I think the assertion that the insurgency lacks native roots is wishful thinking. I would hope they were right, as their rosy conclusion is very comforting, but I doubt they are. \_ So the Journal is pro-war and biased in its reporting. What a surprise. \_ What, you don't believe the editorial and news are separate? So long NYT then. \_ Q: Did anyone here hear about the Sunni's signing on a few weeks ago? I didn't hear a peep about it. Why is that? \_ It was covered in http://latimes.com, http://nytimes.com, http://washingtonpost.com. Probably http://CNN.com, but it got outplayed by even more people blowing up more often. \_ It is amusing to watch the pro-war crowd switch from trash talking to the blame game. They are trying to pin their failures on everyone but themselves now. \_ They should add this quote too to the top: "If this does go on for four, eight, 10, 12, 15 years -- whatever -- and I agree with General Myers, we don't know -- it is going to be a problem for people of Iraq." -Def Sec Rumsfeld (June 23 2005) If one side is saying the insurgency is in its last throes, which it isn't, and the other side says this is bullshit, I think we can conclude that the WSJ editorial board is bullshitting us too. If they wanted to be more honest, they could just say, "Listen, VP Cheney lied to us, but it's your patriotic duty to focus on only the positive developments in Iraq and to not call something bullshit even if it is." |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:38316 Activity:moderate |
6/27 Agriculture - The Worst Mistake In The History of the Human Race? http://www.agron.iastate.edu/courses/agron342/diamondmistake.html \_ There are so many hilarious logical flaws in that article I don't know where to start. \- Helo, this seemed absurd to me too, but I really dont know much about anthropology or pre-literate societies. I have read a little bit of GGS and some of that stuff seems pretty interesting [also well-beyond things I have significant understanding of]. On the other hand, I believe much of what he says in Collapse seems tenuous. I think there are more he says in Collapse seems tenuous. I feel there are more compelling explanations rooted in economics. It would be like trying to explain prisonner dilemma by "studying the criminal mind" instead of the spare axioms of rationality or trying to explain tragedy of the commons by sociological factors or "first/second image" explanations [in the sense of Waltz: Man, the State and War]. I think it would be interesting to ask him if he things hunt/gather societies could have evolved universities, libraries and other such knowledge-oriented institutions and labor specialization. I think he's a pretty smart guy, but I wonder if after becoming a "public intellectual" he feels obligated to come up with big, provocative ideas that are a little beyond his core knowledge [the extreme example is when physicists win the nobel prize and start talking about world peace]. I do imagine he would have some rebuttals to your hilarious logical [not empirical?] flaws which you failed to know where to begin enumerating and leave unstated. ok tnx. \- btw, JD is giving a talk in SF in about 2 weeks. |
2005/6/27-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Foreign] UID:38317 Activity:low |
6/27 Has anyone been lucky enough to get to play a preview/beta version of Battlefield 2? What are your thoughts? Is it better than Battlefield Vietnam or 1942? "In Battlefield 2, players will choose to fight for one of three military superpowers: the United States, the Chinese, or the newly formed Middle East Coalition." \_ May I humbly suggest you try out Forgotten Hope? I am really looking forward to their BF:2-based version. It's the best mod I've seen yet. -John \_ I tried it without ever seeing BV or 1942. Way too complicated. Way too much loading time. I uninstalled the demo pretty quick. \_ Try the demo. Much better than BF:V. Memory hog though. --paulwang \_ Its the best thing since sliced bread, and more addictive. Way better than previous Battlefields, with the new dimension of squads, so there is a big push for teamwork now. Loading time only happens when loading the level. This game is a resource hog though, even more than HL2. Downsides: Snipers got nerfed big time, and often require 2-3 shots to take someone down. Reloading time seems a lot longer too. If you are at all interested, get the demo. -rollee \_ Is that 2-3 head shots, or just anywhere shots? I think recently snipers have been way too powerful in many games. My favorite example is AvP2, where the tougher aliens could take 5 anti-tank rockets to the head, but one sniper bullet kills them. \_ According to the forums, headshots are not instant kills. |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:38318 Activity:high |
6/27 God, I really envy the Japs. Why don't we have something like this? http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/06/27/bt.japan.bullet.train.ap \_ Japan has a much higher population density? \_ You can't compare Japan to the US; you should compare to California, or the eastern seaboard. Obviously you can't support bullet rail in Wyoming, but California has plenty of population density and travel to do so. -tom \_ Japan also doesn't have the kinds of politics the US does. http://tinyurl.com/7myk2 -- I recall midwesthsr being throttled by every 2-bit politician wanting a stop in his town in return for voting for it, sort of like the Washington airport expressway. By the way, the pic on that tinyurl link is of a Zurich commuter train--very un-high speed. -John \_ Japan is not at all comparable to California. Try flying above the CA coast and looking down vs. the same in Japan. Japan is smaller than CA and 3.5x the population. \_ Hmmm, I wonder how a bullet train from SF to LA would do? \_ There is a proposal for it, which of course the airlines are fighting tooth and nail. They killed a similar project in Texas. I think a high-speed rail connection between SF and LA, with downtown embarcation, would be heavily used. -tom \_ As someone who hates airports and flying with a passion, I think this country could use more high speed rail. -- ilyas \_ Who do you expect to pay for the infrastructure to build this high speed rail, oh libertarian? \_ Charitable donations from Republicans, of course. Big corporations rip off average consumers so that they can make big donations to the poor. All heil Waltons, Bushs, and Gates -Libertarian \_ "The train is expected to make the 360 mile trip between Tokyo and Aomori --about the distance between San Fran- cisco and Los Angeles -- within three hours ..." \_ Population density: San Francisco: 16,632 per sq. mi. Los Angeles: 7,990 per sq. mi. Tokyo: 33,617 per sq. mi. \_ California is not as populus as Japan, but it is as populus as many places which have extensive rail networks. -tom \_ Whatever. My numbers were for cities. Also, high-speed rail needs local city transportation as well, else no one will ride if they can't get the last 1-5 miles. \_ Yeah, that is why no one is willing to fly \_ Yeah, that is why no one is willing to fly in airplanes. They can't get out of the airport. \_ I remember an article in the SFCron a few years ago that driving to LA from SF was superior to flying. It took less time, and you had a car when you got there. \_ Grammatical question for you. How do you know when to say "Japan has much higher population" and "Japan has A much higher population"? Ditto with "the" and others. \_ Yermom has rabies. Yermom has a cold. Yermom has the mumps. There are general rules, but sometimes you just have to remember. \_ I seem to remember that when I was a kid people used to say "the Ukraine", but now the "the" has disappeared. What's that about? Any Ukrainians want to comment? \_ I think the difference is that now Ukraine is a country, rather than an area of Russia. On the other hand, I still say, "the Ukraine." Maybe it should be Ukrania? \_ Plural vs. singular. In this case "Japan has higher population density" would be incorrect; "population density" is singular and requires the "a". Population is also properly singular. Unless it's the verb form. \_ Yes, let's envy those whom we deride with racial slurs! \_ I remember an article in the SFCron a few years ago that driving to LA from SF was superior to flying. It took less time, and you had a car when you got there. \- i am surprised SF-LA train proposals have found any "traction" at all [that really was unintentional]. i am not sure what problem it solves. it seems to me the only people it is good for is people near the LA terminus wo want to come to downtown SF for a few days. how much would a SF<->LA fast train ticket cost ... actual cost [without weird cross subsidies] and what would the out of pocket ticket price? \_ The problem it solves is that flying is a pain in the ass. Taking the train is fun. -tom \- do you actually think that is a serious answer? a fun choo-choo train != multi-billion dollar rail project. is a fast train more fun than the Coast Starlight? you might take a trian for fun, but that isnt why you build one. \_ Actually, yeah. I've both flown from Seoul to Pusan (Korea), and taken the new bullet train. The train is superior. It's more comfortable (wieght is not such an issue), runs more often, and you don't have to hang around the station for an hour and a half before hand. Of course, that doesn't mean it will be so nice here, but.. -jrleek \_ Yes, let's envy those whom we deride with racial slurs! Is it so hard to type out "Japanese"? |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Domestic/911, Academia/GradSchool] UID:38319 Activity:nil |
6/27 Not sure what to major? Now you can have a degree in Homeland Security in University of Connecticut http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/06/24/homeland.security.ap \_ "Students spend five weeks of the 20-month program at UConn's main campus in Storrs. The rest of the program will be done online." Online... what kind of credibility can that possibly have. -mrauser |
2005/6/27 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:38320 Activity:nil |
6/27 PDF -> Excel question. In a PDF file there are rows and columns of numbers (a spreadsheet). Is there an easy to to copy and paste that into excel and preserve the format? I tried it many times and spent a lot of time dicking around with the "paste formatter" manually putting in column delimiters. And it still didn't come out ok because the columns couldn't line up. Is there a third party software that can do this? or some other way like export the highlighted PDF segment into some other format/document and then move it back into excel? This is not for a small table. It's huge and I probably need to do this for several PDF files. Manual input is out of the question. Thanks. \_ perl, Perl-PDF and Spreadsheet::WriteExcel -tom |
2005/6/27 [Uncategorized] UID:38321 Activity:nil 60%like:38314 |
6/27 How much do people trust <DEAD>anonymizer.com<DEAD>? What's their reputation for privacy, and what can they do (how much of your information can they protect) if they are subpoenaed to turn over evidence? |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:38322 Activity:high |
6/27 What exactly would a PRC invasion of Taiwan look like? Naval blockade? Massive landing of ground troops? Bombing? Some sort of coup by pro-mainland agents inside the government? Thoughts? \_ http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/taiwan.htm. Short summary: a conventional military invasion of Taiwan will fail. -- ilyas \_ What about this: http://www.washtimes.com/specialreport/20050626-122138-1088r.htm "We left the million-man swim behind in about 1998, 1999 ... And in fact, what people are saying now ... is that it's a moot point, because in just amphibious lift alone, the Chinese are doubling or even quadrupling their capability on an annual basis. ... In the '07-'08 time frame, a capability will be there that a year ago we would have said was very, very unlikely. We now assess that as being very likely to be there." \_ Throwing 5 million guys at the problem often worked for the Soviets. -John \_ China will need, using a very rough estimate, 600,000-1mil amphibious troops, and a perfectly executed plan that was somehow concealed from the US. If the US gets involved at any stage before most of these troops are on the island, it's stage before most of these troops are on the mainland, it's over. Given the stakes and the cost of failure, I do not believe China will mount a conventional invasion. This is also assuming massed troops have the same value today as they did in 1944. It's actually the case that massing troops puts one at a severe strategic disadvantage in today's technological environment. Aside from the amphibious capabilities needed to mount such an attack, China will also need to project sufficient naval power to make American Navy a moot point. This will not happen in the next 20 years, and perhaps never. I should also repeat, going into an open war with the US that the US will have the spine to fight is suicide for any state, China included. -- ilyas \_ The US would not be enough of a factor to stop an invasion, although they could cause significant damage afterwards. Supply distances are too long, and carrier task groups are too vulnerable to attack. The US, especially given its low international standing now, would not use tactical nukes first, and if the PRC were to annihilate a few carriers with a sub-launched nuke, there's your "most of them on the island" already. -John \_ I am curious if there is any concrete information known about the PRCs possible plans to zerg carrier groups with missiles. I am not aware of any concrete (i.e. actual existing ships involved) criticisms of carrier group vulnerabilities. I remain sceptical about PRCs missile technology's ability at this time to pose a genuine threat, but it is a concern. No known submarine will survive to deliver a first strike on a carrier group, unless I am missing something obvious. -- ilyas \_ The PRC is not currently known to have sufficient SSM capability. That doesn't mean they don't have it--remember, the Soviets spent the better part of 30 years perfecting the idea. And it wouldn't have to survive the first strike, just get the bloody things off. First strike, remember? Bang. I rather think the PRC is keeping off invading Taiwan because (a) it would lose most of the "goodwill" it's spent the last decades bribing the third world into according it, and (b) the cost of having its shit fucked up by the US (which it would) would exceed the gain from successfully invading Taiwan (which it would.) Given time, that equation may change... -John \_ PRC doesn't need to invade. If Taiwan declares independence, PRC will just freeze all Taiwanese assets in China, lob one or two missiles, and Taiwan will capitulate and come back to the negotiation table. In the silly fantasy scenario of an actual invasion, it's not going to do any stupid massive amphibious landing assault. Instead, it will attempt a lightning strike. PRC will strike with its missiles (and planes) to try to incapacitate Taiwan's airforce, then it will drop airborne troops to try to decapitate Taiwan's leadership, and sow chaos all over the island. It will attempt to do all this before US carrier group arrives. This will throw Taiwan's people into a massive panic even if the actual operations aren't too successful. What some people don't understand is that the will to suffer massive losses (economic and in terms of human lives) for an extended period is there for PRC if Taiwan declares independence. It's not that Taiwan's military sucks or anything, it's just that people in Taiwan are not willing to sacrifice what it takes to attain dejure independence. As for PRC, nah, it won't invade Taiwan without cause anytime soon like the recent silly articles surmised. It will just continue to bid its time, and integrate Taiwan economically. and perhaps never. -- ilyas \_ I don't know if China has any concrete plans to zerg the carrier groups in some way with missiles for PRC if Taiwan declares independence. integrate Taiwan economically, as long as Taiwan doesn't declare independence. \_ this is the closest to what will happen in reality. |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38323 Activity:low |
6/27 http://csua.org/u/cj5 What is the penalty for War Profiteering? \_ $10,000 fine and no cookies before bedtime. \_ It's not profiteering nor illegal unless there are people in office who are not on your side. \_ And murder isn't murder if it's a hooker. |
2005/6/27-28 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:38324 Activity:low |
6/27 What's the best way of getting cash while traveling in Europe? \_ atm. atm fix everything. \_ Ass to mouth? \_ I second that. Western Europe, Eastern Europe, doesn't matter. Pick a well-established bank's ATM and check with your bank to see if they have any partners so withdrawals are free. But even if they're not, it's a better deal (and easier) than money exchanges. \_ And remember, unlike U.S. banks, almost all European banks do NOT charge ATM fees for using your own ATM card. It's YOUR bank back in the U.S. who might charge you for using a different bank (so at least you won't get double-dinged). You can alleviate this by: a) finding a bank that waives such fees for certain combined balance (Citibank comes to mind), or b) bank with an Internet-based bank that already have a ATM fee reim- bursement program. (e.g. they pay up to 8 ATM withdrawals a month, etc) \_ Many do, but they will usually warn you. Also take a few travellers checks for emergencies. If you have a credit card, get a PIN code for it, as that's usable as an ATM card. -John \_ Also, be warned that the keypads on European ATMs may not have alphabets like in the U.S., so memorize NUMBERS instead of LETTERS. \_ I've never seen an ATM that had letters on the keypad. |
2005/6/27-28 [Transportation/Car] UID:38325 Activity:nil |
6/27 Where does http://511.org get its traffic speed information? \_ probably sigalert \_ Traffic data is big bucks. There are lots of companies that sell that. http://511.org however probably gets it right from the governmental source rather than having to buy it from a reseller. \_ Your FasTrack transponder. CalTrans installed sensors on some exits or overhead passes and calculates checkpoints. (e.g. transponder A hits first checkpoint on University Ave exit on I-80W at 9:16:05, and it hits second checkpoint on Ashby Ave at 9:20:03, therefore speed is distance between exits divide by # of elapsed time). I remember some privacy-nazi complained that CalTrans collect such data from their FasTrack. Grow up! \_ is the above true? Could you point me to an article on the web about the technical details? - danh |
2005/6/27-28 [Consumer/Audio] UID:38328 Activity:nil |
6/27 "We hold that one who distributes a device with the object of promoting its use to infringe copyright, as shown by the clear expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement, is liable for the resulting acts of infringement by third parties." --Justice Souter This would seem to be a fairly narrow ruling that doesn't overturn the Betamax case - i.e., Apple will not be sued by the record companies for the iPod, and Berkeley will not be sued for inventing FTP (okay, absurd example, but this is the record industry we're talking about...) \_ Depends on how "promoting its use to infringe copyright" is interpreted next time around. -John |
2005/6/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:38329 Activity:kinda low |
6/27 For anyone who's owned a G5 running OS X (10.3 or 10.4), how often do you need to reboot if it's being used as a workstation? \_ Occasionally you will run into the Windows NT syndrome of the system needing a reboot for a system software patch - I'd say about once every couple of months on a stable release, and once or twice a month on a new one. Other than that, I have never seen a piece of software completely bring down an OSX machine to the point where it needs to be rebooted - that's not to say it doesn't happen. \_ Ha! I have! Even Safari and IE can do it with the wrong web site! I really like OS X, but it's about as stable as Win2K or XP, which is to say fairly stable but nothing like most *NIX. \_ Specifically, I'm wondering about rebooting due to general OS slowdown. -op \_ I've never had to reboot due to general OS slowdown. I've also never had to reboot due to my browser. I had some physical hard disk issues, but other than that pretty much all my reboots have been software installs. It is disappointing how much Apple hasn't gotten away from the "one person logged in on console" paradigm. But OS X on a G5 is far more stable than any Windows box I've used. -tom \_ I'd also argue that its more stable than most Linux boxes I've dealt with, although that's probably more due to the tightly coupled nature of Mac hardware and operation system. |
3/15 |