6/24    Sen. Kennedy: "There have been a series of gross errors and mistakes.
        Those were on your watch. Isn't it time for you to resign?"
        Rumsfeld: "Senator, I've offered my resignation to the president
        twice, and he has decided that he would prefer that he not accept it,
        and that's his call." June 23, 2005
        \_ Did Mcnamara ever try to resign?  Just wondering.

6/23    Is there anything fun to do at Channel Islands or Catalina Island?
        \_ Sure, puke your guts out for 3 hours trying to make it back to
           the mainland in storm weather in a tiny boat. -- ilyas
        \_ Channel I's. are a national park.  Use your imagination.
        \_ Channel Islands is a nationnal park.  Use your imagination.
           \_ sex on the beach?

6/23    I have a monitor with a 15-pin connection.  It's old and the image
        is distorted (it often undistorts when I hit it, but now it's
        cracking from all the abuse).  I have another monitor with what
        looks like a 15-pin connection, but there are only 12 or 13 pins.
        When I hook it up to my computer and run windows, the image is
        completely screwed up.  Is this because it's not compatible
        (probably because it doesn't have all 15 pins), or is there
        some setting I need to change in my PC or in the monitor to
        get it to work?  Assuming it's not possible to get the other
        monitor to work, is there anyone around West LA or the South Bay
        of LA looking to get rid of a 15-inch monitor?
        \_ who is this?
            \_ Who are you?
           \_ What's the relevance of this question?
              \_ You're asking for a monitor.  Doesn't it make sense to know
                 the buyer/gift recipient?
        \_ VGA doesn't actually require all 15 pins, it's pretty common to
           see monitors that are missing a few in the connector.  That
           said, it you know you have your colors and resolution set low
           enough for the monitor (try 600x480 @ 16 colors as a test),
           it's probably just broken.  However, people throw away old 15"
           SVGA monitors all the time.  You should be able to get one for
           free.

6/24    Maybe house contractors will be outsourced to robots in the future:
        http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4764
        \_ old. There was a Discover mag. article about this 6 mo. back.
           \_ So?  It's still interesting.  Go stick your head in a pig.  -!op

6/24    Interesting. CA is one of a handful of states which have enacted
        further eminent domain protections than the federal law requires.
        http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0506240150jun24,1,7295148.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
        \_ Yeah, my reading is that states can define how much "for public use"
           encompasses, and the Supreme Court will respect that.

6/24    Anyone have a car key that slides out of the plastic holder by a
        switch? http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/business/21road.html
        \_ Yes, and I am actively avoiding any unnecessary travel to the US
           because I do not like being hassled by fat, stupid airport
           "security" monkeys (although to be fair the ones in SF have become
           far better than the morons in the Midwest I've dealt with.)  A lot
           of friends and colleagues are doing the same.  Must be nice to not
           have to give a shit about lost business/tourist travel revenue
           in return for some perceived security.  -John
           \_ The airlines are so successful that they don't need to worry
              about the few whiners who don't care about natl security. Oh
              wait...
              \_ What do they have to worry about?  The same dumb-ass government
                 that imposed these moronic security measures will bail their
                 bumb asses out as soon as they whine loud enough.
           \_ Boy, don't get me started on US airlines, at least not major
              carriers--they're inofficially shitlisted by a lot of
              business travellers for being crap.  -John
              \_ Seen on a Korean message board:
                 "I think United is racist, they were really rude to me."
                 reply:
                 "No, they're not racist, they treat everyone like that."
           \_ You have just been put on the full body/cavity search
              list for the next time you fly into America, for uttering
              such unpatriotic sentiments.

6/24    Tell me again that there is no bubble:
        http://www.condoflip.com
        \_ Bubbles are for baths.
        \_ I thought it's a humor site until I clicked a few times and
           realized it's a serious site. My god, what have we become?
        \_ What really gets me is that they have trademarked the term "flip".

6/24    In my procmail log file, it says:
                csh in malloc(): warning: recursive call
                Out of memory.
        What is the meaning of this?
        \_ helps if you show us your .procmailrc
          \_ It's hundreds of lines long.  I was thinking it was
             not something specific to my .procmailrc but that the
             system was just out of memory.  Assuming it's something
             within my .procmailrc, would could cause a recursive call?

6/24    http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/23/veterans.budget.ap/index.html
        With support like this...
        \_ What the hell?  So they increase the budget to make up for the
           shortfall.

6/24    I heard that we are going to see similar list in Oakland.
        http://www.chicagopolice.org/ps/list.aspx
        \_ What happened to being innocent until proven guilty?
           I think the http://www.oaklandsnews.com guy does
           something similar somehow. - danh
           \_ The website clearly says they're innocent until proved guilty.
              \_ "So, when did you stop beating your wife?" -John
           \_ http://www.northoaklandpolice.com  -tom

6/24    Even if you never sell out, the effect is the same:
        http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-06/23.shtml
        \_ That's infuriating, yes, but it's not as bad as selling the music to
           advertisers.  When I hear "Out of Step" playing on an SUV commercial
             \_ How is outright theft not as bad as an exchange between two
                at least marginally consenting parties?  -John
                \_ One affects my ability to enjoy Minor Threat and the other
                   doesn't.
           on TV, that's when I start smashing stuff.
        \_ When I was 16, this probably would have infuriated me.  Now its just
           funny.
        \_ I wonder why they didn't link to the whole ad, if you
           look at the whole ad, you will notice they even ripped
           off the other 'minor threat' font
              ad - link:tinyurl.com/9sva6
              cover of original Minor Threat 7"
              http://www.fuzzlogic.com/flex/gallery/dischord/minor7.jpg - danh
           \_ Dang, just looking at the first picture, I assumed Nike
              would get away with it, but that font is EXACT.  How is that
              different from Nike putting Mickey Mouse on an ad w/o
              permission? I hope Ian MacKaye sues their pants off.
              \_ Uh, not that I disagree it's a rip-off, but no, the font
                 is not the same.  Check the Os and Rs.  The font Nike used
                 is narrower overall than the Minor Threat one.
                 \_ Hmmm... I admit I'm not measuring it, but the Rs look
                    pretty much the same to me.  Nike's T is a little
                    closer to the H, and the O is slightly narrower, but I
                    just attributed that to the fact that "AJ" is wider
                    than "IN".  Certainly most things are the same, the
                    tops of the A's, and I would say, the Rs.
                    \_ They're different fonts.  Look, the 'R' in "Major"
                       is boxy.  The negative space in it consists of
                       rectangles whereas the negative space in "Minor"'s
                       'R' consists of a semicircle and a triangle.
                       Anyway, the fonts are hardly "exact".
                       \_ http://www.dictionary.com  "nitpicking".  -John

6/24    On Win2K terminal server, how do I find out who else are also logged on
        at that time?  Thanks.
        \_ Use the terminal service manager and see who is connected and active.
           \_ Where can I run the terminal service manager?  Do I need admin
              rights to run it?  I don't have admin rights.

6/24    pictures of paintings by Korean school children about
        how much they are displeased with Japan.
        http://uqmgp.hp.infoseek.co.jp - danh
        \_ "the government ordered the public schools to tell the students the
           Korean view without actually backing it up."  Doesn't this sound
           like how communist governments control the views of their youths?
           \_ I don't know, Japan seems to be doing the same thing with
              this issue, and others.
              \_ They're either incredibly sheltered or incredibly stupid
                 about the whole WWII thing.  Those new textbooks don't really
                 help, nor does half of E. Asia flogging a dead horse. -John
                 \_ Recently, Japan start to expand its territorial water,
                    which pissed off both Korea and China.  There were
                    navy vessle stand off between Korean and Japan about
                    a month ago.  China, by comparison, official reaction
                    has been much restrained.  Having said that, if Japan
                    continue its current path, it will repeat its imperial
                    ambition... and this time, USA will support it.
                    \_ Hahahaha.
        \_ All these while the Japanese start to love Korea because of its
           heart-touching TV dramas in recent years.

6/24    Thoughts on Duke Cunningham?  selling one house to a company with
        business in front of him for $700k more than market value.  Buying
        another house from another campaign contributor under fraud
        investigation for $2-3million below market value.  And the real estate
        "agent" and "appraisor" who had never sold a house before and managed
        both sales just happened to be a big contributor as well.  It's
        breathtaking.
        \_ Why do you hate successful investors?
           \_ Yeah, successful investors who live for free on their military
              contractor friend's yacht. Why you gotta be a hater!
              contractor friend's yacht. Why do you have to hate!
        \_ Look!  Over there!  A missing blonde chick in Aruba!
        \_ If it is not covered by Fox News, it didn't happen.

6/24    Hello, I'd like to join the craze and flip houses for huge profits.
        However, I don't have enough capital or expertise to do this. Does
        anyone know if there are companies out there that manage time-shared
        house flipping? For example, if 10 people buy a house and flip
        it, each person gets 1/10 of the profit (minus commission)?
        \_ Post your home address, and I'll volunteer to come over and beat the
           shit out of you.
        \_ Yeah, there's definitely no real estate bubble.  Sheesh.
        \_ I'd be interested in starting a company like this. Professional
           Flipping Management Corporation. We take in a lot of cash and try
           to flip a house or two, and even if the market goes bad, we can
           still get by with management fees that we charge. It's a win-win
           situation for whoever starts this company.
           \_ Yeah, it's a win-win as long as none of the victims from whatever
              neigborhood you end up ruining don't come knocking at your door
              with a tire iron.
        \_ Is there such a thing as real estate mutual fund?
           \_  Perhaps you're interested in REIT's ?
        \_ sadly enough, http://condoflip.com (from
           http://sfgate.com/columnists/lloyd
           \_ dude, I put that on the motd yesterday

6/23    John, how do you know so much about Germany? Were you a German
        Studies major? I'm impressed.                           -newbie
        \_ I live next to it.  I also probably spent time at Cal hanging
           out a lot with heil cherman john guy.  Where is he, by the way?
           A good troll farmer should always make sure his troll herd is
           in good health.  -John
           \_ Who is the heil cherman guy and what does he do? Is he a
              skinhead or a neonazi? Why the hell would anyone at Cal, the
              most liberal and antinazi university, do something as stupid
              as heiling nazis?

6/24    Bush's War, Myths and Reality, on Fox News:
        http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160556,00.html
        \_ Why isn't this posted on The Free Republic yet?

6/24    [from the thread way down below]
        \_ FWIW, I think this was John "I covered Lady Justice's Titties"
           Ashcroft's doing.
           \_ He might not have bothered if it weren't the case that so many
              photogrophers liked to snap pics of him with the titties in the
              background.
              \_ Possible, but it's still unbelievably stupid.
                 \_ Really?  Check: http://csua.org/u/cij
                 \_Really?http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430134/posts
                    Maybe stupid of the photographers.
                    \_ It's so fun watching freepers implode.  I really liked
                       the "IT WAS JANET RENO" kneejerks.  wow.
                    \_ Whatever the photographers were doing, covering the
                       status is a petulant, stupid response motivated by
                       Puritanism of the worst kind.  Why should he be
                       embarassed to be in front of Lady Justice?  Anyone who
                       finds that statue to be "lascivious" has got real
                       problems and should seek help.
                       \_ The slew of photos designed to frame a breast in the
                          same image as Ashcroft's face was nothing more than
                          junior-high school level sniggering.  An alternative
                          could have been to ban photographers.  I see covering
                          the statues as a reasonable way to deny the juveniles
                          their fun at his expense.
                          \_ You're as much of an uptight prude as Ashcroft,
                             apparently.  By the way, the Gonzales Justice
                             Department has "disrobed" the statue.
                          \_ You clearly don't know anything about photography.
                             The statue of lady Justice has *symbolic meaning*.
                             Photos will be more interesting with something
                             from the background included in the frame than
                             if it's just Ashcroft's head or the podium.
                             Only an idiot would think it's done to
                             specifically highlight the breast.  -tom
                             \_ I won't defend Ashcroft, but I'm certain
                                the picture of Ed Meese delivering his
                                report on pornography with those breasts
                                in the background was meant to feature
                                that feature.  -mel
                             \_ The more Ashcroft was shown to be a prude,
                                though, I wouldn't have put it past
                                photographers to do it intentionally. --dbushong
                       \_ I can think of a lot of reasons John Ashcroft should
                          be ashamed to be seen in front of Lady Justice.