6/18    Exactly five years ago, war was beginning.
        \_ Captain: What happen ?
        \_ Saddam: Somebody set us up the bomb!
           \_ Misquote.
              \_ Intentional.  Pedant.
                 \_ Liar.  Train harder, grasshopper.
                    \_ Communist.  Hottentot.  Third-rater.  Never give up,
                       never surrender!  Non sequitur.
                       \_ Capitalist.  Squarehead.  Greaser.  Get it right, or
                          go away!

6/18    Dumb question. I just did a "yum update kernel" and now I'm on
        2.6.11-1.27_FC3 version. How and where do I get the corresponding
        kernel source code?
        \_ I'm the op. I downloaded from here:
           http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/3/SRPMS
           I did a "rpm -qpl kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.src.rpm" but it doesn't
           show where it puts the sources. Instead it just lists patch names.
           How do I show where it would install files to? Thanks.       -op
        \_ the release notes explicitly tell you how to get kernel sources
           exploded into a tree where you can build by hand.

6/19    Does Abercrombie and Fitch hire colored people now? Or are they still
        hiring whites only?
        \_ They have always hired colored folks, the problem was they weren't
           in the front part of the store.

6/18    So I'm glad we could agree that the Lancet study was a pile of crap.
        Related question:  why was it fast tracked?  Where's the guy who kept
        saying "The Lancet" couldn't be biased? -emarkp
        \_ Perhaps the Lancet booster is the fellow who's been so diligently
           deleting your posts.
           \_ The Lancet post was deleted because in spite of the reasonable
              suggestion to post a link to an external file you did not.
              \_ As opposed to the 176 line mess down at the bottom?  I didn't
                 know I had to ask permission to post.  -emarkp
                 \_ That was not one long comment. That was a long thread.
                    Dont be a dumbass. The suggestion was made before it
                    was deleted.
                    \_ There is an enforced maximum for motd posts now?
                       Since when was this in effect?  -- ilyas
                       \_ If a thread grows to a long length, nothing to
                          be done about that.  But if you have a long
                          comment to share, whether or not this is a break
                          with tradition or not, it's better to put in a
                          pointer.
                       [response deleted because it was too long]
        \_ I'm sick of all this shit from you people who are shitting on
           organizations who have been praised for decades up until the
           point that they validly criticize the US.  If you want to be
           \_ I hadn't heard squat about "The Lancet" until their flawed study
              which I read myself and found problematic. -emarkp
              \_ The fact that a Cal grad hasn't heard of one of what are
                 probably the two most prestigious English-language journals
                 of medicine, purely as part of his general education, is
                 something I find troubling.  -John
                 \_ You've got to be kidding.  Have you ever heard of AAPM?
                    It's quite the presigious group. -emarkp
                    \_ Why would I be kidding?  I'm not a scientist, nor do I
                       have a medical background, but I've _heard_ of several
                       AAPMs.  Google turns up many minor ones as well.  And
                       it's "prestigious" with a 't'.  -John
                 \_ Why is it so troubling? A lot of people can make it
                    through life just fine w/o knowing about x random
                    journal.
                    \_ It's not 'x' random journal.  A lot of people can make
                       it through life just fine w/o knowing where S. Africa
                       is located, understanding roughly how an internal
                       combustion engine works, or who Michelangelo was, but
                       that's not something I expect of someone who attended a
                       supposedly world-class school.  -John
           point that they validly criticize the US.  If you want to be
           blind to our problems, then you're part of the problem.
           When you fuck up at work and get called on it, do you call
           the person who called you on it unreliable?  How often do you
           get fired?

6/18    AI is looking for solviet gulag survivors to back up their
        Gitmo=gulag equation.  Criticism there of.
        http://csua.org/u/cez (Washington Post)
        \_ Why does the left (Democratic party) always embrace people who
           want to kill them.  The Democratic ethos is self-destructive
           and irresponsible behavior.
           \_ Why do morons like you always embrace perfectly valid points and
              ruin any chance of educated discourse on the matter (such as
              letting people decide for themselves, "Wow... what dipshits"
              by making uneducated, irrelevant and pretty fucking pathetic
              generalizations like the one above?  -John (not a Democrat)
              \_ obviously I have a hit a sore spot.  Try not to be so
                 transparent.
                 \_ Troll!
                 \_ No, I just don't like morons.  I think morons are a
                    great argument for retroactive abortion.  In fact, I
                    actively support eugenics as an anti-moron measure, if
                    only to remove the irritant of morons trying to spoil my
                    motd-browsing pleasure through moronitude.  -John
           \_ Part of the Democratic "ethos" is to turn people to the Good
              Side, not destroying them.  Republican behavior is to destroy
              the Evil ... with some collateral damage.
             \_ so you have 6 kids out of wedlock, no problem the Democrats
                will subsidize the bastardization of children.  What better
                way to expand their voter base? You have
                unprotected sex with 100's of strangers, it wasn't your
                fault you caught AIDS you were a victim, entitled to
                free medical care for life at the taxpayer expense.
                Murdering a cop makes you an instant cause celebre of the
                left as a victim of the oppression of capitalism.
                As a nation state you are the largest state sponsor of
                terror over the past 3 decades and you stone to death
                teenage girls who have been raped, what are you to Democrats-
                a misunderstood democracy victimized by US imperialism.
                You sold out the country to China for campaign contributions
                from Loral Space - this action alone makes you the
                Savior of the Democratic party.
                Savior of the Democratic party. -jblack
                \_ Too many hits off the crack pipe?
                \_ Ah, yes, it's better to limit sexual education and
                   availability of sexual protections so that things like
                   this don't happen.
        \_ Wow... what dipshits. -- ilyas

6/18    Thanks to whoever recommended ClamWin as a windows virus checker.
        It's not always on guard (like Norton or whatever) but it's
        pretty good.  It's certainly thorough.  It found viruses in old mail
        backups from soda. First time I've ever had a virus checker find
        those. :P
        \_ my problem with ClamWin was that if they found ONE virus in
           my mailbox file (which contains thousands of email), ClamWin
           will remove the entire mailbox file.  Let me know how did you
           set things up.       kngharv

6/18    Dumb question, let's say I installed Fedora Core 3 and forgot to
        install certain packages I need, how do I go back to the installation
        steps? I don't want to use yum or apt-get, I just want to use the
        CD defaults. Thanks.
        \_ you don't, easily.  rerun the install CD and try an upgrade
           path to redo install but keep your modifications.  or learn
           the underlying bundling terms used by anaconda and kickstart
           and try to install whole package groups.  but really, just learn
           how to use yum search and google to find package names you
           want and install them + dependencies automatically!