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| 2005/6/14-15 [Recreation/Media] UID:38113 Activity:high |
6/13 What are your favorite independent films? Please tell us the title,
your summary or synopsis, and why you like it. Thanks.
\_ Motorcycle Diaries. Really powerful, touching, and funny.
\_ Cemetary Man. Rupert Everitt before he became famous. Italian
horror with an interesting message. Also anything Jim Jarmousch,
though my favorite is Down By Law. Tom Waits, Roberto Benigni and
John Lurie trudging through Louisiana swamps.
\_ I shot Andy Warhol: Fun flick. Lily Taylor is a great actor. She
captures absurdity better than just about any actress around.
\_ Terminal USA, by Jon Moritsugu. Defies explanation. -- !danh
\_ wow did I make you watch that? - danh
\_ Yes. I'm scarred, I tell you, scarred!
\_ Why can't you be like your brother Marvin?
\_ I love anything and everything by him. The one with
the meat industry band and the music video of cow bodies
is my favorite.
\_ If it's a movie that danh advocates, an acurate description
is probably "buckets 'O blood." :P
\_ I'm not a slasher movie fan. Terminal USA is really
odd, I think you can rent it at Reel. I really want
to get the Godzilla rip off that Kim Jong Il kidnapped
a director from Japan to make it. - danh
\_ Pulgasari
\_ http://csua.org/u/cct
\_ http://www.cultdvdzone.com/view_product.php?product=PULDF0LR4
\_ http://csua.org/u/ccu
maybe we should buy a copy for the CSUA.
(Also at Amazon)
\_ Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back
\_ That's an independent film?
\_ It sure is! lucas financed it and published it
himself. george lucas's lawyer suggested to lucas
that he ask for the merch. rights to the first star
wars movie since 20th century wasn't paying him very
much to make it, and 20th century agreed, because
they didn't know better and no one, not even lucas
expected the movie to do that well and no one had thought
of tieing a movie to selling pantloads of crap to kids
before. this all made lucas very wealthy and
he has been able to finance his movies himself,
not always with good results.
\_ Cremaster 3
\_ Bad Lieutenant
\_ Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back. It has great action, nice
cinematography, good story and a great follow-up from the first
one.
\_ It had the better ending.
\_ Pi
\_ Run Lola Run -- I think this one counts as "Independent"
\_ Winter Sleepers or The Princess and the Warrior have more
interesting story lines, but still have Franka Potente (hot!).
I think the Princess and the Warrior had the sexiest
traecheotomy ever filmed.
\_ Schizopolis. Defies explanation, with prejudice.
\_ Schizopolis is a lazy rehash of about 10 different David Ives
plays. Soderberg's a hack.
\_ but I wouldn't let that stop me from liking it.
\_ The Holy Mountain - Alejandro Jodorowsky, mind blowing 1973 sets,
tour of religion and the path of the massiah? Unexplainable really,
just watch it.
I second Cemetary Man. Gummo is funny in that making fun of white
trash sort of way. -scottyg
\_ Good suggestion. The Holy Mountain is one awesome flick, much
better than perennial Jodorowsky favorite El Topo. FWIW, I
also liked Schizopolis. I'll throw in Lars van Trier's "The
Idiots" into the list.
\_ yes. I think Zentropa is also a good introduction to LvT,
though it needs to be letterboxed (pan and scan cuts out
most of the reaaons for watching it). The Idiots is a
really good first Dogma '95 film to see, though, and a
good watch in its own right.
Anything Larry Clark is also good, though guaranteed to be
somewhat disturbing and to involve teen sex. Bully is
amazing and easy to find. Ken Park is amazing and I think
Le Video has a VHS copy.
\_ not so independent but good: Chinese Box. Jeremy Irons facing
mortality along w/ British Hong Kong. |
| 2005/6/14-15 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38114 Activity:kinda low |
6/13 "Ministers were warned in July 2002 that Britain was committed to
taking part in an American-led invasion of Iraq and they had no
choice but to find a way of making it legal...The briefing paper,
for participants at a meeting of Blair's inner circle, said that
since regime change was illegal it was 'necessary to create the
conditions' which would make it legal."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1650822,00.html
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050613/downing_street_ii.php
Sigh...Three guesses on how much coverage *this* will get in the
states. At least Blair is probably gonna get booted...
\_ FYI, I was confused by this article originally. I believe the
mentioned briefing paper refers to the /same meeting/ as the one
for the Downing Street memo. The memo just contains minutes for
that meeting.
The newly leaked material is a "UK eyes only" briefing paper for
that meeting.
that meeting. Also, here's the direct URL to the paper:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1648758,00.html
Note that the "victory condition" is given in point (2) ... I
think some of you are still fuzzy on what this is.
This part is true, the first sentence is hilarious though:
This part is true but hilarious though:
"In practice, much of the international community would find it
difficult to stand in the way of the determined course of the US
hegemon. However, the greater the international support, the greater
the prospects of success." |
| 2005/6/14 [Uncategorized] UID:38118 Activity:nil |
6/13 hey stupid fuck: stuff from 6/10 doesn't need to be here. it's
motd, not motw. |
| 2005/6/14-17 [Computer/SW/OS/VM] UID:38119 Activity:nil |
6/14 Does anyone know if it's possible to take an image of an installed
XP box (such as via dd from a Knoppix CD) and boot it up in a vmware
session? If so, how? -John
\_ If you can take Ghost images, then P2V works currently.
Supposedly support for LiveState Recovery images is coming soon.
-rollee |
| 2005/6/14-15 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38120 Activity:nil |
6/14 Bolton's first defeat
http://csua.org/u/cd0 (LA Times editorial)
"ElBaradei's return might be Bolton's first major diplomatic defeat
since President Bush nominated him, but if he's confirmed, it won't be
his last." |
| 2005/6/14-16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38121 Activity:moderate |
6/14 http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/local/11888623.htm The president of Gold Star Families for Peace, a mother who lost a son in Iraq ... "We're watching you [Pres. Bush] very carefully and we're going to do everything in our power to have you impeached for misleading the American people," she said, quoting a letter she sent to the White House. "Beating a political stake in your black heart will be the fulfillment of my life" ... as the audience of 200 people cheered. \_ Hmm, the administration apologists are quiet about this one, once again... \_ I am not a Bush apologist, but I am not sure what sort of comment you are expecting. The lady in question is free to pursue her legidimate vendetta against Bush. What more is there to say? -- ilyas \_ He's probably expecting something like, "Dubya didn't mislead, it was the CIA's fault" or some such. Anyway I do think this is the final administration line when backed against the wall except put more persuasively and at least partly backed up by two bi-partisan reports. \_ I think another interesting question is what this lady would say, had Bush given an adequate (to her) casus belli. It wouldn't bring her son back, would it? -- ilyas \_ Well, she might say crap about the lack of preparation for post-war Iraq, something which Dubya has acknowledged could have been done better. \_ But what does that have to do with the fact that her son is dead, and isn't coming back? Let's say Dubya waged the 'perfect' war. Her son is still dead. He is dead because people die in war, not because someone didn't like the casus belli for this war, or because the planners didn't plan for peace. She is asking for a fix to (or a retribution for) things that wouldn't have saved her son's life, given that the war did happen. -- ilyas because the planners didn't plan for peace. \_ There was no adequate casus belli, that is the whole point. \_ It wasn't too long ago when the pro-war people said the Iraq War was worth fighting for. Where are they now? Why aren't they more vocal now? And why are they not marching to support our glorious and righteous wars? \_ Maybe we have better things to do than reply to trolls? \_ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4090626.stm So, are you going to say that BBC = Liberal Bias and dismiss it the same way our government dismisses everything that doesn't support our glorious war? \_ I like how he is redefining success as not doing the worst job possible. I mean, things could have gone worse, so we are doing great! \_ Even the dumb average Americans are slowly realizing that maybe the war isn't worth it afterall. Only a minority of the people outside United States think the war is worth it. Even the native Iraqi people don't think it's worth it. Stop putting your ideology into the Iraqi people and let them speak for themselves. !emarkp \_ Source for the Iraqi people claim? -- ilyas \_ No, I think a lot of people outside the U.S. simply loathe the duplicity leading up to the war. Getting rid of Saddam and other evil shitbags around the world is a noble goal for a country that purports to be a beacon of freedom 'n stuff-- lying about it, and then fucking it up so badly ain't. -John \_ I don't like your tone at all. You are now on the black list for being unpatriotic and spreading dissent. -CIA \_ I don't like your tone at all. You are now on the black list for eating the peanuts out of my shit, pilgrim. \_ I'm so glad we give up so easily these days. It'll make the next attack all the more disillusioning. Why can't we all just get along? Get real people. 2 years and that's it? Let's just leave? The so-called spectre of Vietnam hasn't died after all. \_ The "next attack?" So you are one of the fundamentally deluded who still believes Saddam "must have" had something to do with 9/11? \_ No, but let's get this Machiavellian point across, we are fighting them, so they don't come here. But they will still come though. So long as there are weaklings like you who think second-guessing is helpful in a time of war. |
| 2005/6/14-16 [ERROR, uid:38122, category id '18005#2.375' has no name! , ] UID:38122 Activity:nil |
6/14 Petition to stop the bill gutting PBS
http://www.moveon.org/publicbroadcasting
If moveon turns you off, I'm sure there are other petitions around. |
| 2005/6/14-17 [Recreation/Travel] UID:38123 Activity:nil |
6/14 Anyone have a good recommendation on hotels nearby Seattle? ok thx
\_ sheraton by the convention center didnt suck.
\_ no, but if you have time the underground tour is a fun touristy
thing to do there. http://www.undergroundtour.com
I was skeptical, but the guides were actually pretty funny.
\_ the W was pretty nice if you (or the company) will pay for it |
| 2005/6/14-16 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/Tax] UID:38124 Activity:moderate |
6/14 Even Alan Greenspan thinks the rich/poor gap in the United States is
becoming a big problem.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20050614/ts_csm/ataxing_1
\_ The dumbing down of the average American is NOT the core of the
wealth gap. The problem is that there are too many people
getting smarter, thus creating and keeping wealth that the average
American can't possibly have. The solution is to cut all
education programs and reduce F1/F2 skilled-worker VISAs from
India and China, which will hopefully reduce the educational and
income gap in the U.S. Wait, it's already happening thanks to the
guidance of our great President. Thank God and Bush for standing
up to evil. The Good and Righteous will always prevail. God Bless.
\_ You know, the Catholics have the Pope as the head figure. What
about the Jews? So I asked my best friend who's a Jew, and his
reply is that they have Alan Greenspan.
\_ -5 Lousy excuse for a troll.
\_ "America's powerful central banker hasn't suddenly lurched
to the left of Democratic National Committee chief Howard
Dean. His solution is better education today to create a
flexible workforce for tomorrow - not confiscation of
plutocrats' yachts."
I'm confused. When did Dean announce his yacht-confiscation plan?
\_ High taxes == no yachts, because rich people can't afford
lawyers to avoid taxes.
\_ I think he meant
Yacht confiscation != Progressive taxation to check the
wealth gap
You say the first thing if you're a Republican.
You say the latter if you're a Democrat.
\_ What's funny is that most of my entrepreneur friends
here have this ideal of America as a place where
people say "hey, he's rich, how can I be rich too?"
whereas in Europe people say "hey, he's rich, he
shouldn't be rich, that's not fair." How about
making it easier for the poor to, I don't know, make
more money? Given all the effort that goes into
coming up with taxation schemes, that might be an
idea, or am I just being hopelessly naive? -John
\_ The standard Republican answer seems to be keep
taxes low on the off chance any of them do start
earning more money. The truly poor pay little in
taxes as it is so reducing their taxes further is
moot. The left response is provide things that
either give the poor money directly or make things
cost less for them so they can keep more of what
they make. Where, however, shall that funding
come from, if lifting the poor is one's actual
concern? -- ulysses
\_ Income taxes != sales taxes != inheritance
taxes. I do not like the latter, and #2 are
regressive, except for "luxury taxes", which
are a logistical nightmare. I have no problem
with cutting taxes for "the rich" (usually
including your upper middle class) thereby
creating incentives. There's nothing wrong
with "the rich" getting richer, as long as
nobody's poorer overall. How about better
education? Scientific incentives? Tax breaks
for successful industries? And how to pay for
it? How about greater accountability in
govt. expenditure, sensible military budgets,
and cuts in direct subsidies? And yes, I'm a
hopeless romantic. -John
\_ When taxes are decreased, the programs they
made available are curtailed. This is most
likely the exact intent of much recent and
Reagan-era strategy. For people whose income
is small to begin with, reducing programs
such as socialized health care and public
transit is making many people poorer overall.
Succesful industries (oil, pharma) already
receive frightfully large incentives. Is that
the most effective way to help poor people?
A sensible military budget would go a long
way, at least at the gov't end of funding.
That is not likely for quite awhile, though.
Bless your hopelessly romantic heart.
-- ulysses
\_ I don't mind cutting programs. In fact
I would specifically want to cut spending
on programs which I don't feel benefit
"the poor" (or the country) at all-such
as a lot of hopelessly inefficient pork
in defense, agricultural subsidies, etc.
I make no apologies for my stance on
taxes--where I am willing to concede that
I am unrealistic is in my strong belief
that there _is_ a shitload of waste and
inefficiency in government spending, and
that, in an ideal world, this would all
go away. I am of the firm conviction
that a government's expenditures will
always rise to exceed any funds available
to it. -John
\_ Why don't you like the latter, which I assume
you mean inheritance tax?
\_ Because I feel it is the business of an
individual to what he wants to give to whom.
Note that I didn't say I don't see some
justification behind having it, I just don't
like it.
\_ If we really wanted to reduce taxes on the
poor we'd get rid of the lottery and reduce
tabacco taxes.
\_ The new thing is Greenspan says there is a widening wealth gap and
widening wealth gaps are bad for America.
The questionable thing is he also implies the dumbing down of the
average American is the core reason for this.
It's true, though, that if the average American gets smarter, the
gap should narrow.
The question is whether this is "the core reason", or just one with
the distinction of having approval from Dubya's people.
He probably can't say: "The wealth gap widened because the wealthy
benefited most on the last tax cut, and don't forget the elimination
of the dividend tax and of the inheritance tax."
\_ If everyone gets a PhD who will dig the ditches and pack
meat?
\_ The answer is apparent in Europe. EVERYONE.
\_ Yeah, it's great, I just got back from my weekend
socialist-enforced ditch digging collective trip,
and we all sang people's ditch digging songs and dug
ditches for the glory of the EU constitution. -John
\_ You know, you laugh, but I actually have been on
one of those. Along with my mother, who was a
college-educated civil engineer. -- ilyas
\_ Why do you hate Socialism?
\_ Because there's a chance of being forced on a
peoples' revolutionary ditch digging gang and
having to listen to ilyas sing peoples' revo-
lutionary ditch digging songs. -John
\_ I've been known to sing russian war songs
when I had a bit to drink. -- ilyas
\_ Ironically, I would pay money to see ilyas
forced to sing revolutionary people's ditch
digging songs.
\_ I've been known to sing russian war songs
when I have a bit to drink. -- ilyas
\_ And Russian peasant drinking songs?
\_ Ironically, in a society in which he'd be
digging ditches, you'd be right there
next to him, bub. -John |
| 2005/6/14-16 [Uncategorized] UID:38125 Activity:nil |
6/14 Help! When are we getting our disk space and mail quota
increased? My mailbox is overflowing! Help!
\_ Uh... how 'bout you save it to another location/bounce it to gmail/
whatever.. And really, depending on soda to reliably keep your
data is not kosher. |
| 2005/6/14-15 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38126 Activity:high |
6/14 Gotta love the House
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.J.RES.24.IH
\_ Sponsored by 4 democrats and one republican.
\_ Well, it makes sense. The only President to serve more than
two terms was a Democrat.
\_ Who?
\_ FDR. Elected to four terms. Died in the first year of his
fourth term. Learn some history.
\_ Thx. When did we start limiting presidents to serving
two terms? And something bad triggered it?
\_ I think FDR triggered it
\_ Washington started it as a policy in order to
avoid autocracy or personal dynasty in the office
of president. FDR was just the first president to
break with the policy, after which it was legislated.
\_ ^policy^tradition
\_ The 22nd Amendment limits people to 2 terms as
president. The fact that FDR kept getting elected
was the motivation. Truman was exempt from the 2
term limit but voluntarily chose to forgo a 3d
term (he probably wouldn't have won one anyway).
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment22
\_ Wow. You WENT to Berkeley?
\_ As a foreign student I never took any American History
class.
\_ Again, you WENT to Berkeley? Well, I guess if you
were in CoE, you might have slipped by without AmHist
\_ WTF are they smoking? Term limits are really important for the
President.
\_ Not for President For Life George W Bush!
\_ What about President For Choice John Kerry?
\_ Does anyone serious believe this? |
| 2005/6/14-16 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:38127 Activity:low |
6/14 Does anyone know the POSIX specified way to get the fully
qualified domain name of the local machine in a C program?
gethostname just returns the name of the box without the domain.
\_ There probably isn't a POSIX-specified way, as there is no
single way to map machine->FQDN. (What if a machine has
two, or 1000 FQDNs?) -tom
\_ So far all I've gotten is: gethostname, get IP address, do
reverse DNS lookup. Apparently this is a common problem,
and everyone hates this.
\_ It may be difficult to handle programatically, but that's
because it sounds like you're trying to do something which
simply can't be done reliably. Maybe if you explain what
you're trying to accomplish there might be some help. -tom
\_ in otherwords, you want the result of `hostname`
\_ Well, hostname -f, but yeah. Anyone have to hostname source
code? :P
\_ On Soda: /usr/src/bin/hostname/hostname.c
If you want a much better example, get a copy of Stevens
Unix Network Programming Vol 1 and look at Chapter 11.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/013490012X
http://www.unpbook.com
The http://unpbook.com site has src code for the examples which
might help.
\_ Thanks, the source isn't very helpful (it turns out)
it's non-standard. But I have the Stevens book, and
if that's the way to do it, ok I guess.
\_ Figured it out. gethostbyname returns the cononical name as
part of the hostent structure. Not optimal, but better than
the next alternitive. -op |
| 2005/6/14 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:38128 Activity:nil 66%like:38130 |
6/14 A really interesting article on islamic reform:
http://www.cairomagazine.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=850&format=html |
| 2005/6/14-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:38129 Activity:nil |
6/14 open-sourced version of Solaris went on-line.
http://www.opensolaris.org
I tried to get the message that at least they should
LGPLed device drivers... the message never reach the top...
Sun Guy
\_ I tried to get the message that they should have
released it w/ a BSD license and included java
along w/ it, but that didn't happen either. - yaSunGuy
\_ shoot me an email... we talk about this off-line.
kngharv
\_ I tried to tell Sun that Linux/Intel would really hurt them and
their sales guys laughed and said that the server market is
what they wanted anyway because it is where the profit is. I
wonder how that's working out for them. |
| 2005/6/14-17 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38130 Activity:nil 66%like:38128 |
6/14 A really interesting article on islamic reform:
http://csua.org/u/cdb (Cario Magazine) |
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