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2005/6/7-8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:37998 Activity:high
6/7     Los Alamos Whistleblower Beaten
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1417842/posts
        Similar to the whisteblower on Loral / Clinton
        \_ Wow, freepers are blaming it on Clinton... amazing...
        \_ Obligatory snort of derision at use of freeper link.
           \_ The photos at top were worth it.
              Do the Liberal Elite always snort with derision at freeper links?
              \_ The photos are available elsewhere as well.  Any sane person
                 should snort with derision at freeper links.
        \_ Wow, the Bush goons will stop at nothing to cover up evidence
           of their wrongdoing. I love how the Freeper all try to pin
           it on the "unions." Are there even unions at Los Alamos?
           \_ Are you a dumb liberal?  You sound like one.
              The likely culprit is one or two specific Los Alamos employees
              -- identities unknown.
              Remember Los Alamos was the place where two workers were put on
              investigative leave for misusing government credit cards (one
              had spent $30K on a customized Ford Mustang) to a total of $900K.
                \_ Go check your facts.  This was how it was reported but is
                   not the truth.  Of course your media won't report the truth.
              Later in 2002 two other people in LANL bldg maintenance were
              accused by 5 co-workers for using LANL funds to buy camping
              equipment, GPS tools, a picnic table and lawn chairs, etc. for
              their own use.
              University of California oversees LANL, so possesses blame for
              allowing the situation to get to the point where someone hires
              thugs to fuck up the whistleblower.
              Whether or not a union is involved, well, that's just freeper
              talk.
              \_ Which is exactly why it's really lame to post a freeper link
                 when the info is available just about everywhere else.
              \_ This is a Federal Lab, therefore funded and under control
                 of Federal authorities. When did "The Buck Stops Here"
                 go out of fashion?
                 go out of fashion? Are you a brainwashed Bushbot?
                 You sure sound like one.
                 \_ Step back Troll!  I have a +5 Flaming Sword & Oil Flasks!!1
                    \_ Hey, I am giving an eye for an eye.
                    \_ Hey, I am just giving an eye for an eye.
2005/6/7 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:37999 Activity:nil
6/6     Historical Evidence of US Home Price Booms and Busts, 1978-2003:
        http://www.fdic.gov/bank/analytical/fyi/2005/021005fyi_table1.pdf
        \_ Those who bought homes before 1998 will live like lords over
           the peons who failed to buy. Anyone who has not purchased a
           home yet is doomed to live forever in bondage, and their
           children and children's children too.
2005/6/7 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:38000 Activity:low
6/6     http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8124325
        US has 2% of the world's oil reserve. Sucks to be US.
        \_ Actually it doesn't suck.  The US *was* endowed with more oil than
           almost any country in the world, and that is one reason for our
           current superpower status.  We have just used most of it up.
           \_ I do not think the above statement is true, sorry.
              \_ Duh..
              \_ We are still the #3 producer of oil in the world, after
                 Saudi Arabia and Russia.
                 \_ http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922041.html
2005/6/7 [Uncategorized] UID:38001 Activity:nil
6/6     Damn 12.244.72.206!
2005/6/7-8 [Transportation/Car] UID:38002 Activity:low
6/7     5th subway car is the man-boy love car!
        http://flakmag.com/rejected/train.html  -John
        \_ http://gelatinous.com/idisk/danh/dropbox/bartm4m.JPG - danh
        \_ "the Greater New York Association of Single Parents dubbed the
           fifth car of each train the "single parents car" on Monday,
           seemingly unaware that the North American Man-Boy Love
           Association had already identified the fifth car of every train
           as the "man-boy love" car."
        \_ It's also "parents without partners" Car!: "It was awful," said
           one single mother who asked not to be identified as she got off
           the A train at 14th Street. "My 12-year-old son and I boarded the
           fifth car of the train hoping to meet a suitable male role
           model. Instead, I found myself using my pepper spray to fend off
           four overweight middle-aged men in leather pants who assumed I
           was Jeffrey's pimp." [ reformatted - formatd ]
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:38003 Activity:high
6/7     Turns out Kerry and the "Chimp" were equally bad students at Yale:
        http://tinyurl.com/dco6d (boston.com)
        \_ yeah 4 Ds vs 1 D
                \_ 5 (Kerry) vs 1 (Bush)
        \_ Same grades, but Kerry raised up his GPA in his junior and senior
           years while Bush kept it the same.
        \_ How about Clinton and Senior Bush? Were they good students?
           \_ Supposedly Clinton was pretty smart, don't know about Bush.
              I'd have to say that the last well educated president was
              Carter (PhD Nuclear Engineering).
              \_ Someone claims Carter says "nukular"
              \_ Carter was a nuclear engineer, but he did not have a
                 PhD in it. Clinton was a Rhodes scholar.
                 \_ I've heard that Clinton was #2 at Yale, and his wife was
                    #1. Never seen any reports backing this up though.
                 \_ And Reagan?
                    \_ BA Economics Eureka College. Okay student and
                       football player.
                 \_ Didn't realize his PhD was honorary - sorry.
        \_ If anything this proves that Kerry is a lot dumber than Bush. If
           Bush joins the frat, drinks beer, and parties all day and still
           manages to gets a C average than studious Kerry, then Kerry is
           just plain dumb.
2005/6/7-8 [Recreation/Humor, Science/Electric] UID:38004 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
6/7     Lonely dateless geeky Asian men invent ballroom dancing robot. If
        only they'd make Geisha bots...
        http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/06/07/robots.ballroom
2005/6/7-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38005 Activity:nil
6/7     Is there a way to run more than one instance, at the same
        time, of Mozilla Firefox in Windows?  When I try to run
        an instance using a different profile, a new window running
        under the old profile is spawned. - danh
        \_ http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile  - gerald
           \_ Doesn't allow them AT THE SAME TIME. -not danh
        \_ I haven't tried this, but this turned up by searching Google for
           "Firefox multiple simultaneous profiles":
           http://www.techzonez.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-14218.html
           \_ Hey cool.  This works.  Thanks. -not danh
              Oh awesome.  This also works for thunderbird.
                \_ wow, thanks motd! - danh
2005/6/7-8 [Recreation/Humor] UID:38006 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
6/7     Asian rap: http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/asianpride.htm
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:38007 Activity:low
6/7     Hey Swift Boat Troll!  Kerry finally signed Form 180!  Aren't you
        happy?  Oh, woops, the records show his service was exemplary...
        http://csua.org/u/c9t (boston.com)
        \_ "No after-action report for the incident has been found."  Guess he
           got the records "taken care of" before signing the form.
           \_ That's right, he got his dad, the former head of the CIA, to
              pull strings to have the report removed. Whoops, my bad, I'm
              obviously talking about the other candidate in 2004.
              \_ Because a current Senator has *no* pull at all with anyone.
        \_ I'm curious to see whatever comes out about his discharge.
        \_ When is GWB going to sign his Form 180?
           \_ Maybe on the Friday afternoon before he leaves office?  Just a
              guess. -emarkp
              \_ Well, yeah, except Dubya doesn't have to because he's not
                 eligible and angling for another presidential run.
                 \_ Exactly.  Which is why I guessed that.  Or he may not sign
                    it at all. -emarkp
                    \_ Probably not != I guess
                       \_ Uhm, huh?  What are you smokin'?
           \_ Maybe on the Friday afternoon before he leaves office?
              Probably not. -emarkp
        \_ essentially Kerry released exactly the same records he did
           prior to the election.  180 does not mean all records are
           automatically released, they are still sent to Kerry first then
           he chooses.
           \_ In another Boston Globe article:
              "Late last month, Kerry gave the Navy permission to send the
              documents to the Globe."
              One of these new documents was his Yale transcript.
              Yeah, not much to do with Vietnam service, but embarrassing
              nonetheless.
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:38008 Activity:nil
6/7     Good Intentions Gone Bad - last thoughts on Baghdad
        http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8101422/site/newsweek
        \_ The world would be better if the US media didn't hate America.
          \_ Obviously, you don't watch Fox News, the most loved and watched
             news in America, except in the West Coast and New England.
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38009 Activity:nil
6/7     When will the Chimp admit that he dodged service?
        \_ When will all the people who call Bush dumb realize he's no dumber
           than Kerry?
           \_ Can't speak for them; never thought it myself. As for honesty and
              integrity, however, Bush has shown over and over that he has
              none.
              \_ Make your own Bush-Bashing thread.  Here, I'll help you.
2005/6/7-8 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:38010 Activity:nil
6/7     Who the hell is toshi?
92998 toshi         -22   0 21652K  7340K swread   0:04  1.60%  1.56% perl
93677 toshi          60   0 22400K 11632K RUN      0:03  1.92%  1.51% perl
92893 toshi          62   0 25020K  7788K RUN      0:09  1.80%  1.42% perl
93173 toshi          62   0 25060K 17216K RUN      0:07  1.22%  1.22% perl
93020 toshi          63   0 25048K 15072K RUN      0:08  1.17%  1.17% perl
92957 toshi          62   0 25028K 11168K RUN      0:08  1.03%  1.03% perl
92988 toshi          61   0 25020K  9380K RUN      0:08  1.30%  1.03% perl
93074 toshi          61   0 25028K 15584K RUN      0:07  0.98%  0.98% perl
        \_ Isn't he the dinosaur that Mario rides?
           \_ nah, that's yoshi
              \_ Yeah, was Toshi the evil cat-child in 'The Grudge'?
                 \_ I think you mean Toshio, though I don't speak Japanese
                    so for all I know that might functionally be the same.
        \_ http://www.toshireagon.com
2005/6/7-9 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:38011 Activity:nil
6/7     Anyone else use forwarding from procmail & unix mail? I'm
        been having a problem with something that used to work.
        I forward email from another account to csua via procmail.
        Mail headers come with a format that looks like:
               From sender@sender.com Tue Jun  7 13:30:20 2005
               Status: RO
               >From mds  Tue Jun  7 13:30:20 2005
                ...
        Normally I use POP for email, but sometimes when I'm in a
        rush I use command-line "mail".  When I read/delete some
        messages and enter 'q', it saves the resulting messages with
        a space between the "Status" and ">From" lines.  Haven't been
        able to find anything via google, but I know that it didn't
        previously do this (e.g. a month+ ago).  Has anyone else had
        the same problem?  Thanks!
        \_ read your email with mutt like a real man.
        \_ Consider setting up a procmail rule to pipe everything through
           formail before further processing. -dans
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38012 Activity:nil
6/7     Marla Ruzicka artile in Rolling Stone:
        http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7371965 - danh
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38013 Activity:nil
6/7     Doesn't today's marijuana decision from the SCOTUS effectively mean
        that the federal government can dismantle any state or local law that
        differs from federal law through enforcement?
        \_ Uh, Alabama? Civil Liberties? Hello!
        \_ Yeah, despite my conservative bent, I'm pretty sure this whole
           idea went out with the civil war.
                \_ What do you mean? I have/had no idea, so I'm curious.  !op
                   \_ I'm not 100%, but it sounds like he is talking about
                      the 14th amd which made due process applicable to
                      the states.
                      WRT the original question, yesterday's decision doesn't
                      really break new ground. Congress has always had the
                      power to enact legislation that preempts state law as
                      long as the legislation falls w/in one of its enumer-
                      ated powers.
2005/6/7-9 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:38014 Activity:high
6/8     [ Re-posted after deletion by motd censor.  It's not even 24 hours
          old fer chrissakes - originally from 6/7 ]
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4616043.stm
        Taiwan assembly passes changes:  Future amendments will have to be
        decided by referendums, which means the Assembly has effectively
        voted for its own abolition.
        But, later on, it says this:
        However, analysts point out that the threshold for passing amendments
        - 50% of the entire electorate, not just those who turn out to vote
        - is very high, making it difficult to pass any controversial changes.
        Here, it says, typical turnout is around 60%...  http://csua.org/u/ca0
        That means, in the future, for any amendments to pass, 82% of voters
        need to approve, unless turnout is abnormally high.
        \_ The failed assassination attempt on Ah Bian proves that Four
           Eyes can't shoot.
        \_ Yes, DPP has set up Taiwan for Buku-Bucks and big time detente.
           Politically they're capitalizing on the KMT's pro-China visits.
           You know how GOP folks complain about Democrats co-opting their
           goals and vice versa?  Same thing.
           \_ Can you explain, elaborate, and/or provide url's? How does this
              generate cash(Beacoup Bucks?). How does this represent the DPP
              co-opting KMT's goals?  As far as I understand, this just
              makes it practically impossible to pass any kind of amendment.
              Does it also make it impossible to pass other legislation? -op
              \_ http://csua.org/u/cal (Post)
                 It makes it harder to pass changes to the Constitution, such
                 as:  Taiwan is an independent and sovereign country, separate
                 from China (PRC).
                 \_ That's what it sounds like... then why did the DPP do it?
                    I thought their platform was independence.  This legis-
                    lation basically cements the current status quo forever:
                    no independence, no merger, no changes, period.  I know
                    that the KMT wanted this, in fact, this was part of their
                    election platform, but I thought the DPP ran on change.
                    \_ They saw a dead-end following a hard-line approach.
                    \_ it's more than that.  DPP want to do it mainly because
                       this "reform" will squash smaller party, Taiwan
                       Solidarity Union," headed by Li Deng Hui.  the TSU
                       has becoming more of a threat to DPP than an ally.
                       Further, you would argue that DPP gained a small
                       victory because in the past, changing the soverign
                       territory (such as remove the Chinese mainland)
                       impossible.  With new rule, it's highly improbable, but
                       not impossible.
                       \_ Is there any significant difference left in between
                          the two main parties, then?  As far as I understood
                          the recent elections, the biggest difference was
                          their stance vis-a-vis re-unification/independence.
                          Now that issue is no longer on the table, so what's
                          left?  I guess this also pretty much resolves the
                          entire reunification/independence debate.
                          \_ in my eye, the differences is still there.
                             KMT still calls for eventual unification with
                             the mainland, under the condition that China
                             would become richer and more democratic.
                             DPP still want to be independent.  If it requires
                             USA to nuke China off face of the earth, then
                             they will do everything they can to drag USA
                             into it.
                             The blurr you see is more to do with the fact
                             that lousy economy has made people to think
                             "may be getting a job is better than pursuit
                             my own identity;"  And the fact that DPP was
                             ran on a "reform" platform... and it turned out
                             while KMT was corrupt, it left technocrats to
                             run most of its government / economic policies;
                             DPP is more blatently corrupted, and it has
                             essentially destroyed the civil servant
                             machines. Major government post are fill by
                             those who are loyal to DPP or made significant
                             contribution to the campaign.  Political
                             correctness overrides any economical / political
                             consideration.  This is why under DPP rule,
                             TW went from a meager 1% fiscal deficit to
                             30+% deficit today.        -live in TW now.
                             \_ thanks for all the replies.  What party, if
                                any, do you support? -op
                                \_ i am completely disillusioned with
                                   democracy for Chinese in general now.
                                   I prefer rapid unification with some
                                   degree of self-goverance for three reasons:
                                   1.  so TW can jump onto the Chinese economic
                                   bandwagon.  People in taiwan can make most
                                   differences, AND benefit most from China's
                                   boom.
                                   2.  DPP build its power based upon fueling
                                   racial tensions.  Want to get rid of that
                                   before this racial tension turned into
                                   sectarian violence
                                   3.  it is only way to remove this potential
                                   flash point which may cost hundreds of
                                   millions of Chinese lives... i.e.
                                   full confrontation with United States.
                                        - denizen of Chinese Republic.
                                   \_ I'm not Chinese, and I know very
                                      little about this. However if I were
                                      Taiwanese, I think I would be very
                                      nervous about reunification until
                                      China makes some democratic reforms
                                      and builds up a better track record.
                                      Can't argue with 3 though.
                                      \_ I agree with you.
                                         Not many people in Taiwan is in
                                         a hurry to "re-unite" with PRC.
                                         However, it is important to
                                         get a dialogue going, and not
                                         constantly provoke PRC (mostly
                                         by DPP, etc. for domestic
                                         political consumption).  It would
                                         also be nice to reach some form of
                                         understanding with PRC on some
                                         guidelines, necessary
                                         conditions, etc. for co-existence
                                         and possible eventual unification,
                                         while Taiwan still has the
                                         political, economic, and military
                                         capital to do so, cause unless
                                         you think PRC will suddenly
                                         collapse, time is on PRC's side,
                                         unfortunately.  Very few in
                                         Taiwan are willing to pay the
                                         price for dejure independence.
                                         The best thing to do is to
                                         maintain defacto independence,
                                         not unnecessariy provoke PRC,
                                         set guidelines and conditions
                                         on what PRC needs to do before
                                         unification can be considered,
                                         and observe and bid time.  The
                                         problem is everytime someone
                                         tries to do that, the more
                                         extreme TI supporters will
                                         start yelling "traitors",
                                         "sellouts", and fan emotions and
                                         fears.
                                         \_ I concur.
                                         \_ Interesting. These Taiwanese
                                            conservatives sound just like
                                            the NeoRepublicans of America.
                                            \_ Huh?  What do you think
                                               then?
                                 \_ DPP, because they don't buy votes and
                                   they're not full of wackos who think Chen
                                   shot himself.
                                   \_ I don't know whether he shot himself
                                      or not, but I wouldn't call people
                                      who think so wackos cause the whole
                                      incident and how it was handled do
                                      smell fishy.
                                      \_ ^wackos^Wackjobs
                                   DPP's biggest problem is it doesn't know
                                   how to handle corruption among its own.
                                         \_ wacko's version of assassination:
                http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5911.htm
                \_ Wackjob.
                   If Chen really wanted to stage the shooting, don't you think
                   he would have done a lot better job acting?  Not, "Oh,
                   what's this blood on my shirt?" but "Shit, what the fuck was
                   that that just blew into my stomach?!"
                   \_ huh?  the wikipedia article pretty much supports
                      the claim that the whole thing smells fishy.
                      \_ Okay, I took out the URL and gave you the reason why
                         they're all wackjobs.
                         \_ otoh, it could just be ah bian being his usual
                            self: a clown and a bad actor
                            sorry, but I don't buy your "he couldn't be so
                            dumb" defense.
                            \_ Wackjob.  Go home.  Think about it.
                               \_ wikipedia article reposted:
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-19_shooting_incident
        \_ what is the big deal?  we got a president who staged an
           assassination; his wife made millions in stock markets, put
           his house servant on government payroll,  sued and searched
           opposition newspapers and magazines, and allow cronies to escape
           island after embazzled millions, flare racial tentions for his
           political gain and completely ignore the
           Consititution since the it states One-China policy...  are you
           trying to say this "reform" is significant in some way?
           \_ Oh gawd, you're still on the assassination theory?
              \_ don't know about that, but ah bian's fat belly
                 (supposedly scratched by the bullet) is certainly
                 world famous now.
              \_ not to mention the suspect they "caught" died
                 one year ago. the will which suppose to proof
                 he was the assassint was burnt... and that is the
                 official end to this assassination... you don't call
                 this a cover up?
                 \_ ^cover up^conspiracy theory
           \_ url for these accusations?
              \_ google is your friend.
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38015 Activity:kinda low
6/7     Poll on your perception of Mark Felt. Put "d" if you're a Democrat,
        "r" if you're a Republican, and "i" if you're Independent, "." if
        you're not sure:
        Hero: .ddid
        Traitor: .r
        \_ Why is he a traitor? They say Veritas vos liberabit, the truth
           will set you free. Mark Felt was honest and told the truth,
           freeing America from lies and deceptions.
           \_ The poll is a false dichotomy anyway.  !Hero != Traitor.  It
              looks like what he did was motivated not by doing the right thing
              but by being passed over for promotion. -emarkp
              \_ Damn you and your sensible observations.  They have no place
                 here in my senseless invective!!
                 \_ I love the old crank conservatives coming out of the
                    woodwork with their long essays about how Nixon
                    wasn't so bad.
                    \_ Compared to Bush, Nixon was a choirboy.
           \_ He divulged information that was protected and broke the
              law and his oath as an FBI agent in doing so. This to me
              is treason.
              \_ to me this falls under the same heading as civil disobedience.
                 sometimes in order to make change for the better, one has to
                 question the letter of the law.  If the intention of the law
                 is to make the world safer for individuals of our nation,
                 what do you do when living by that law allows others in power
                 to threaten the rights of individuals in our nation?
              \_ ah, yes, one shall not tell a lie, ANY lie, even if it does
                 greater good.
                 \_ What greater good? Personally I don't think that
                    what Nixon did was wrong. He was trying to run
                    cover for some stupid idiots. While the right
                    cover for some stupid flunkies. While the right
                    thing to do would have been to not get involved,
                    its not like his actions were all that bad.
                    \_ B&E, plans for arson, blackmail, use of Federal
                       Agencies for political vengeance-- these do not
                       constitute wrong? Physician, heal thyself.
              \_ And when are we having Robert Novak's public execution by
                 firing squad? You can't eat your cake and have it too.
              \_ You need a dictionary.
        \_ It's clear to me that the Republican party of today hasn't
           changed much from the Republican party of The Crook 3 decades
           ago. They still keep dirt on all of their enemies. The real only
           difference is that the Republican party of today conceals
           activities a lot better.
           \_ It shits me to tears to hear the so-called liberal press fall
              over themselves to tell us what great presidents Nixon and
              Reagan were. Mao never had it this good. Kim Il Sung is turning
              over in his grave with envy.
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, ERROR, uid:38016, category id '18005#14.6967' has no name! , ] UID:38016 Activity:high
6/7     Monkey Business (NYT article on monkeys and economics):
        http://csua.org/u/ca5
        \_ How can the Freakonomics authors have any credibility with what's
           left of their "when abortion is legal, crime goes down" theory?
           http://www.freakonomics.com/ch4.php
           http://www.isteve.com/abortion.htm
           With a dubious claim on an inflammatory topic from people degreed
           to such a high level, the burden is clearly on the authors to
           demonstrate their theory with very high confidence, and I don't see
           that.
           \_ The http://isteve.com link is playing very loose with its comparisons.
              I haven't seen the freakonomics research, but their synopsis
              indicates a wider data base than the age 14-17 homocide rate
              data on the http://isteve.com page.  Just at first glance, this page
              is doing serious apples to oranges crap.
           \_ Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with you, but abortion is
              is an incredibly inflammatory topic and the involvement of
              American Conservative magazine here isn't exactly reassuring.
              \_ Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with you either, but the
                 Freakonomics authors aren't doing much to dispel the notion of
                 the Liberal Elite.
                 \_ I think the people actually running the country and making
                    most of the policy decisions have done enough to dispel
                    the notion that any of the Elite are particularly Liberal.
                    \_ I sincerely hope so.  To the independents at least.
                 \_ I am not a liberal, but I find the 'abortion has a
                    positive effect on crime rate' hypothesis interesting, and
                    worthy of further investigation.  Your comment is kind of
                    dumb. -- ilyas
                    \_ ilyas, are you trying to out-compete tom on calling
                       people dumb while signing your name?
                       \_ I called the comment dumb, not the person.  Even
                          smart people say stupid things sometimes.  Tom is
                          the reigning king of ad hominem, I wouldn't dream of
                          trying to dethrone him. -- ilyas
                          \_ ilyas, your comments have been kind of dumb.
                             Even smart people say stupid things sometimes.
                             \_ Are you talking about something in this thread
                                or going off on a tangent? -- ilyas
                                \_ What is tangential about your opinion that
                                   my comment is kind of dumb, and my opinion
                                   that your comments are kind of dumb?
                  \_ he is not a liberal.  He just make conclusion based upon
                     satistics, not political correctness.  If you think he
                     is a libera, look at this:  he is the same guy who
                     said that having a swimming pool in the house is much
                     more dangerous than having a gun in the house.
                     you think a Liberal will allow that to published?
           \_ A claim from http://isteve.com debunks Freakonomics? What a load of
              he said she said. That having been said, the anectdotal image
              monkeys trading is amusing and thought-provoking.
              \_ The bar is very low in this case, because the theory is so
                 spectacular as well as political.  All you need to do is cast
                 doubt.
                 It's just as if you presented the case that black people are
                 physiologically dumber than white people.  You need to back up
                 such a theory with very high confidence.  On the opposite
                 side, all you need to do is cast doubt.
                 \_ I don't see why a 'controversial' theory should require
                    any proof over and above normal.  It may be good to provide
                    more proof _for practical reasons_, but I don't think this
                    is required for the underlying science to be good.
                    Requiring greater burden on 'controversial' theories is a
                    very dangerous practice, because you can always drum up
                    controversy to silence the science you don't like.  By the
                    way, doubt is good in science.  Doubt is only bad in
                    religion. -- ilyas
                    \_ In an ideal world, what you write would be highly
                       persuasive.
                    \_ No duh.
2005/6/7-9 [Recreation/Activities] UID:38017 Activity:nil
6/7     Does anyone use (or have familiarity with) WordPress as
        blogging software? What are its dis/advantages compared to
        Movable Type? Thanks.
        \_   It's been a year or two since I did an involved comparison of the
           two so this may be somewhat dated, YMMV, not responsible if this
           advice causes your CPU to catch fire, kills babies, etc...  Last I
           looked at them, WP wasn't quite there yet vs. MT.  This was shortly
           after the genesis of WP (prior to that it was a package called
           Cafelog IIRC).  From what I understand, WP has been making leaps
           and bounds and, at this point, it is likely on par or superior to
           MT.  Older versions of MT were written entirely in Perl.  WP is and
           always has been written in PHP.  Modern MT is a mix of Perl and
           PHP.  As I understand it, this was done as a way to work around the
           fact that, in older versions of MT, you had to manually rebuild
           your pages regularly, which was annoying, to say the least.  IMO,
           the MT plugins community is a little more mature than that of WP.
             These days, the main deciding factor I care about is licensing.
           Although MT is free for personal use, it quickly gets expensive for
           any sort of commercial or contract work.  I think this is because
           SixApart (makers of MT) would prefer that people use TypePad, their
           hosted subscription-based service.  My main beef with MT's
           licensing is that they absolutely forbid you from distributing
           modified versions of the MT source.  So, in essence, if you write
           any plugins, fix any bugs, or develop any enhancements for MT, you
           are at the mercy of SixApart.  Sure you could distribute them
           separately or as patches, but I don't particularly expect bloggers
           to be the sort of users that are willing to deal with tools like
           diff and patch (nor do I think they should have to).  Consequently,
           I am inclined to avoid MT since I have little interest in doing
           what amounts to free development work for SixApart.  WP, on the
           other hand, is licensed under the GPL so you can hack on it to your
           hearts content, though any changes or enhancements you release must
           also be licensed under the GPL.  Feel free to email me if you have
           more specific questions. -dans
2005/6/7-9 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX, Computer/HW/CPU] UID:38018 Activity:moderate
6/7     Why Intel? why not AMD?  They both run on notebooks(unlike the G5)
        Also, does this pave the groundwork for porting OS X to all PC
        machines?
        \_ You know, you guys are trying to find good technical reasons
           for the move. I think it's actually simpler than that. Economics.
           IBM can't produce their chips cheaper than Intel, which we all
           know is kicking TI and other microprocessor fabs. IBM simply can't
           sell their chips to Apple at competitive market rate. The
           mundane technology of integration is driven by business, not
           technology.
        \_ Intel has the best laptop chips and once Apple has made the
           transition it'll be easy to move to AMD if they want to.
        \_ PC BIOS is a fundamentally different architecture than the Mac.
           \_ I wonder.  Macs these days use mostly commodity hardware.
              What differences will remain?  The BIOS?  Motherboard type?
              \_ PC's have a BIOS.  Macs have real firmware. -dans
                 \_ Alas, not on Intel:
                        http://csua.org/u/cae (adc)
                    See "Specific Scenarios->Open Firmware" - ciyer
              \_ Each Mac will come standard with a little slice from the ego
                 of Steve Jobs.
                 \_ Which is where they get the hot air to blow out the back.
        \_ Intel has good support for DRM. (Why delete this MOTD censor?)
           \_ It does?  Cite?
        \_ Apple may not want to limit itself to x86.
        \_ Apple is trying to get away from a marginal chipset, why replace
           it with another one?
           I haven't seen enough discussion to know about the larger
           implications; will OS X be able to run on Dells?  There's a
           lot of risk for Apple either way.  -tom
        \_ In the short/mid term, Apple is unlikely to let other PC vendors
           sell OS X (of course, the hackers will make it possible). NeXT
           took about two years to solve all the driver problems that affects
           most users of generic x86 hardware and peripherals. However, moving
           to x86 would let Apple open OS X up to Dell & other select vendors
           in the future if they wanted to do so. However, not likely... one
           of Jobs' first things he did when he came back to Apple was to end
           the Clone Wars.
        \_ This is all about laptops and Athlon 64 can't compete in that
           space in the foreseeable future.  Also Apple probably wants to
           get at the pentium risc[?] core w/o the x86 microcode at some
           point in the future.
           OS X will probably never run on a non apple branded machine
           legally. While the x86 mac's will have a bios (so Windows might
           be installable on them), they will likely have a special apple
           boot rom (the dev machines supposedly have this already) which
           is needed in order to boot OS X. Unless you own an apple x86
           system you can't get a legal copy of the rom so no legal OS X
           on dells.
           The bigger question is WHY you would want to run OS X on a dell
           anyway?  Is OS X that much more compelling than Windows/Linux?
           \_ OS X is much more compelling than Windows/Linux.  And you'd
              want to run it on a Dell because Dell makes inexpensive hardware.
              I would also run it on my Sharp laptop in a second, if it were
              possible.  -tom
              \_ I run OS X on a daily basis and I still don't see why
                 it is more compelling than Windows/Linux. I agree that
                 it is nice and all but most of what I like about Macs
                 has less to do w/ OS X and a lot to do w/ the hardware:
                 ADC (w/ OSD of my monitors controls), deep sleep, power
                 on from the kbd, low noise, multiple firewire ports, &c.
                 I could easily buy a Dell but I don't b/c I can't get
                 these hardware features from any vendor other than Apple.
                 NOTE: I might not "get" it b/c I used to buy Macs for
                       purpose of running LinuxPPC b/c I liked Mac hardware
                       better than PC/Sun hardware (though the SS20 was
                       a NICE system, too bad there was no IDE support).
                 \_ Interesting. I am less enamored with Apple's hardware.
                    I do like my G4 Powerbook's sleek form factor and large
                    17" screen, though. What makes Apple interesting to me
                    again is OS X. UNIX-like and also runs applications
                    like Office and Photoshop. It's the best melding of
                    Windows and Linux. In fact, I run VMWare on a
                    Windows/Linux box to achieve the same things I get
                    with OS X. The Intel h/w is superior to Apple's, IMO.
                    I don't even care about any of the 'advantages' you
                    mentioned. --dim
           \_ Yes, it is.  However, part of its beauty is its tight
              integration with the hardware and the lack of all the misery
              generic x86 hardware and peripherals imposes on its users with
              little incompatibilities.  The "OSX on Dell" idea is kind
              of a cruel joke.
2005/6/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:38019 Activity:nil
6/7     Where's ~psb/pub/RotS ?
        \- it is avail by subscription only.
2005/6/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:38020 Activity:nil
6/7     How'd he find a new chainsaw so fast?:
        http://redirx.com/?3esh
        \_ Uh, maybe I'm confused but I thought he chainsawed/knifed some
           people in Canada, and then across the border with the bloody items
           which were confiscated but he was let in.
           BTW, anyone else reminded of the evil judge in "Roger Rabbit"
           from his picture -- what a looney tune!
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38021 Activity:nil
6/7     Amusing article on how the out of control guard urine
        splashed the Koran of a GITMO inmate:
        http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05158/516835.stm - danh
        \_ "Deep Throat, if you're out there please save us."  Amen.
2005/6/7-9 [Consumer/Audio, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:38022 Activity:nil
6/7     Any suggestions for saving a WM/Real audio stream that happens at the
        same time every day (on windows xp)?
        \_ 1. how do you save WM/Real audio stream at first place?
           2. I don't think time of the day has anything to do with solution.
              you need to figure out a pattern of changing streaming
              URI according to date.
        I do this everyday using a tool called "hidownload."  I have to
        manually cut n paste URI and feed to hidownload on daily basis.
        I occationally need Firefox's "View Rendered Source" plugin to
        figure out URI.  Let me know you got better way.        -kngharv
        \_ The URI doesn't change.  They were offering mp3 downloads, but
           they've been heavily edited in the last week, so I was planning on
           recording the live stream (which isn't edited).  I've used CDex in
           the past to simply record, but it picks up all sound on the computer
           (including beeps, etc.)--not just the stream.  I'll look at
           hidownload.
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:38023 Activity:nil
6/7     http://csua.org/u/ca6 (Post)
        The Bush administration, having found no alternate candidate or
        support from any allies, has given up on its attempt to force out
        Mohamed ElBaradei as director general of the International Atomic
        Energy Agency, according to two U.S. officials.
2005/6/7-8 [Recreation/Humor, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:38024 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
6/7     http://s94009834.onlinehome.us/xyz/move.html
        Nifty Javascript. Doesn't work well on OSX Firefox but pretty
        well on OSX IE and OSX Safari
2005/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/President] UID:38025 Activity:nil
6/7     Unpatriotic news poll from Washington Post shows Americans don't
        think Iraq war has made US safer. This is on the headline news of
        MSNBC. Interestingly, Fox News uses Mrs. Robinson as the headline.
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8135134
2005/6/7-9 [Recreation/Dating] UID:38026 Activity:moderate
6/7     RIP Anne Bancroft
        Bless you, Mrs. Robinson
        \_ Poll, oldest SO you've ever slept with:
           21: .
           30:
           40: .
           50:
           Yermom: .
           N/A: .
           \_ Poll, biggest age difference of SO you've ever slept with: ('+'
              for older than you and '-' for younger than you):
              -2: .
              +21: .
              -15: .
              +14: .
              +/-0: .
           \_ Poll (for men), biggest age difference of women you've ever
              wanted to sleep with:
              +~10: .
        \_ Here is her listing on IMDB:
           http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000843
2005/6/7 [Uncategorized] UID:38027 Activity:nil
6/7     Cold fusion article on /. (for people who rightfully don't check /.
        regularly). -- ilyas
2005/6/7-9 [Consumer/Camera] UID:38028 Activity:low
6/7     Using a 128 Meg sandisk compact flash card that I've had
        for a little over a year in a digital camera that I've had for
        nearly 7 years, I took a picture and when I went to look
        at it, it was corrupted as were a few images I had taken
        before.  Is it likely the fault of the card or the camera?
        Could it be that I switched the camera to the "view" mode before
        the camera had time to completely write the picture to the card?
        If the problem is likely with the card, will reformatting it help
        prevent this from happening in the future, or is it better to just
        use a new card?
        \_ what are we, psychic? experiment with it and see what happens.
           \- metadata or data corruption? there are some recovery softwares
              but frankly 1. format in the camera [not on PC] and take some
              test shots 2. if that is ok, then cross your fingers and hope
              it was transient problem 3. otherwise the replacement cost of
              a 128mb card is so low low [<$20], just get a new one and use
              that for "important" pictures.
        \_ Nice delete.  I've had this happen to me.  CF cards are cheap, get
           a new one.  -John
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