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| 2005/6/2-3 [Politics/Domestic] UID:37934 Activity:low |
6/1 a guy on MOTD signed as "vet" said that military draft is
inevitable. would you, based upon your military experience,
explain that?
\_ death is inevitable
\_ Do you want to live Forever?? -Valeria
\_ That...is the sound...of inevitability. -A. Smith
\_ aaron is that you? |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:37935 Activity:low |
6/2 In the 'official' part of the motd it says ssh1 would be shut off,
weeks ago no less, and yet it still seems to be on. What up with that?
\_ Whoever did the change neglected to restart sshd. Fixed. -jvarga
\_ I just tried ssh from a Solaris machine to soda and I got "ssh:
connect to host http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu port 22: Connection
refused". I tried both with and without the "-2" option. Now if
I log out from this session I won't be able to log in again!
\_ Using putty forcing to ssh2 doesn't connect either.
\_ That's the last time I trust someone's changes to "just
work"... fucking dammit where'd all these sshd_config
errors come from??? - jvarga
\_ What say we strip some people (person?) of their root
cookie?
\_ I say we strip karen.
\_ I say you're a chauvinist and an ass.
\_ Dang, you've been in CS how long and you only just
figured THAT one out? :P -jrleek
\_ I'm glad it was caught before soda rebooted... it
would suck to have to go and be physically present to
fix this. - jvarga
\_ wait, if you're not a current student, what the
\_ Who said he wasn't? School's not in session,
dumbass.
hell are current students doing? It used to be
the case that current students run, manage, fix,
install everything. What the hell do they do now?
Playing with Windows NT servers because UNIX is
too hard?
\_ Do you object to me fixing crap? Because if so
I can just leave all the broken shit for
"current politburo" to eventually get to or
notice. Do you object to njh, dlong, mconst,
etc also fixing soda problems? - jvarga
\_ Man, lazy/apathetic kids today (current
politburo). As a mentor, how about teaching
them how to fish instead of giving them
fish?
\_ Hey yeah, and while we're at it let's
un-root all the non students; they have
no business working on soda. Thanks for
all the cool shee-it, jvarga, you are de
man. -John
\_ Maybe that's the reason whoever did the change didn't
restart sshd in the first place. He didn't think his
own change would work either.
\_ Then he should have reverted sshd_config to a known-
working state so that an accidental (or intentional)
soda reboot wouldn't fuck over sshd. - jvarga
\_ seems ok now.
\_ will the csua website recommend an ssh2 client we can use?
will http://csua.berkeley.edu/ssh be upgraded as well? |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:37936 Activity:kinda low |
6/2 After 1950, 5 Presidents have been Democrats and 9 presidents
have been Republicans. What does that say about Democrats, that
they've sucked not just in the past 10 years but in the past
5 decades? That they just can't seem to get their acts together?
-Disillusioned Democrat, now Independent
\_ They controlled Congress for most of that 5 decades. You know
that Congress thing, I'm sure you've taken Civics. I'm assuming
you're familiar with the separation of powers thing?
\_ yeah, they should make sure their brother is the governor of
a key swing state. -tom
\_ Please don't tell me that you believe Jeb Bush rigged Florida. I
know you're obnoxious and rude and sometimes stupid, but I didn't
figure you for a conspiracy nut too.
\_ I am sure that if Al Gore Sr. were governor of Florida,
the election would have gone differently; voter rolls
wouldn't have been purged of black-sounding names, for
one thing.
In any case, what's so special about 1950? If you look at
1960, or 1945 (end of WWII), Democrats and Republicans
have held the presidency about an equal amount of time. -tom
\_ Because numbers are fun to fuck around with. The question
itself is deliberately misleading, and was posted by one
of our stealth motd posters. I simply assumed it was a
troll --scotsman
\- a pretty smart observation about election 2000 was
\- a pretty astute observation about election 2000 was
"when an election is that close, all theories are
true" ... i mean you can claim it was a sunny day
true" ... you can plausibly claim it was a sunny day
and the young hedonist democrats and homosexuals all
went to the beach.
\_ The DNC in Chicago was the site of one of the most heinous cases
of police brutality in the nation's history. The Dems of today are
not the Dems of 1950-1974. Get used to it. |
| 2005/6/2 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Computer, Consumer/TV] UID:37937 Activity:nil |
6/2 So is the infamous 49ers training video available somewhere online?
\_ http://tinyurl.com/dav7r - danh
\_ What the fuck is this? |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Recreation/Humor] UID:37938 Activity:nil 80%like:37931 |
6/1 http://www.nickscipio.com/funstuff/archive8/2005-06-01_linuxgeek.html http://www.nickscipio.com/funstuff/archive8/2005-05-31_monitorarch.html geek humor (SFW) \_ haha thanks that's pretty funny. Please keep posting funny stuff! \_ warning: those may be SFW (inasmuch as obviously not doing work is SFW) but clicking elsewhere on that site resulted in a NSFW. \_ I liked this one: http://www.nickscipio.com/funstuff/archive8/2005-05-22_fredphelps.html |
| 2005/6/2-7/12 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:37939 Activity:nil |
6/1 SSH got restarted with the new changes (no more SSH1). As a result,
it may look like soda's key has changed. This is just because you may
be used to using SSH1 and therefore the SSH1 key. The SSH2 key has not
recently changed, but your SSH client may not recognize it unless you
usually use SSH2 to connect to soda. |
| 2005/6/2-5 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:37940 Activity:low |
6/2 My TeraTerm SSH no longer works on soda. What other software should
I try now?
\_ putty
\_ Cygwin + OpenSSH. Related request - can root (or someone) add a
webpage w/ the ssh public key fingerprints for soda and the other
login systems? Soda's fingerprints are:
RSA - df:69:f5:98:d5:68:d2:4b:9a:77:4b:53:75:b0:21:51
DSA - b2:2b:32:26:6e:19:d3:f0:f2:51:70:25:30:c1:54:22
\_ Done, see CSUA main page. - jvarga
\_ Dude, whatever they're paying you, ask for a raise. -mice
\_ Dude, whatever they're paying you, ask for a raise. Get a
life, man, you're making me feel guilty. :) -mice
\_ While you are on a roll, how about the wall log archiver
and the tmp and var cleaners.
\_ Get the SSH2 extension to TeraTerm
http://sleep.mat-yan.jp/~yutaka/windows
\_ Great! Thanks.
\_ will http://csua.berkeley.edu/ssh be updated as well? |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Computer/Networking] UID:37941 Activity:moderate |
6/2 I've been to many places and almost every place I go to have
802.11b/g. However, almost all of them have protected access,
which I presume they use because they don't want people stealing
their bandwidth. So here is one idea I think will really
revolutionize 802.11X... an option in the router that allows you to
specify the percentage of unprotected bandwidth you are willing to
share, while allowing maximum bandwidth for yourself. For example,
I may allow 1-5% of my bandwidth to be shared by any random bozo
while keeping 95% to myself. By doing so I hope others would do the
same so that everyone can use 802.11X anywhere. I think this
Socialist model benefits a lot more people than the current
selfish model. What do you guys think?
\_ I've wondered about that myself, but the liability issues
might be a problem? (e.g. hacker uses that 5% to launch attacks
anonymously?)
\_ I treat wireless as "insecure" and have completely different
rules for that link. My server has three IP addresses, BTW.
One can always limit the ports that wireless client can access.
Limiting it to SSH port, for example, would be fairly safe.
\_ It's not necessarily to stop bandwidth hosing. For a long time
(and probably still) spammers would hunt for WAPs to hijack.
It's a liability to run an open WAP.
\_ Holy crap! Do you mean that by having an open WAP and monitoring
the traffic I might actually be able to physically catch a
spammer? I like this idea <reaches for nunchucks>.
\_ Indeed! <reaches for M1911A1>.
\_ The FREE MARKET sets the price of wireless access at zero in
most of the coffee shops where I live.
\_ you live in coffee shops?
\_ I think it is not very hard to find open, free WAPs.
\_ Actually, this is already supported by some of the enhanced WRTG54
firmware out there. If you wanted to revolutionize 802.11x, write
a tool which allows people running consumer OSes (i.e. Windows and
OS X) to perform the following with a single click:
1) wepcrack closed network
2) Connect to freshly opened network
3) Act as a second level gateway for others in the vicinity.
-dans
\_ So is there any new wireless routers with customizable firmwares
other than WRTG54? I've been thinking of scrapping my Celeron
firewall box and replace it with a small device. But I'd like
to have some features like logging(probably to a syslog server),
QoS, etc. I'm not against WRTG54, nor do I know anything about
it. I just want to know if there are any newer products that
I should research as well. Also, any good pointers on WRTG54
websites?
websites? - !op #13
\_ Yes. I keep posting this--M0n0wall running on a WRAP board.
M0n0 (http://m0n0.ch/wall is free, and the WRAPs (from
http://pcengines.ch are cheap and incredibly robust and
flexible. Drop a mini PCI card in there to turn the firewall
into a wireless router. Quite a few people (including some
very top-end security guys I know) actually do what you are
suggesting--open x% of wifi bandwidth to unauthenticated
clients. Generally this is done with a VPN to the wifi
router, though. What most people don't realize is that it's
not _that_ simple to crack WEP/WPA keys, although it can be
done with time and the right tools. Have a look at the
Auditor collection (http://www.remote-exploit.org for some
more info on this. -John
\_ So I picked up a WRT54GS last night. I haven't played with
it much, but it doesn't look like sveasoft adds a whole
lot. Definitely not "equivalent of products costing
hundreds or thousands of dollars." Looks all the firewall
stuff is still done by iptables. Since my discovery of
PF, I'd actually prefer M0n0, but the WRAP board you
mentioned doesn't seem to be a whole lot more advantageous
hardware-wise to the WRT54G. I don't know how a 486 200MHz
compares to the MIPS based 200MHz processor in the WRT54G.
Thanks for the pointer though. I still have 29 days to
play with other firmwares before I can return the device
if I don't like it. - !op #13
\_ Like I said elsewhere, the main value I see from the
sveasoft firmware is letting you boost the signal to
full HW specs from 27mw. The WRAP is not that special;
it's a nice, robust, cheaper, faster soekris. By
virtue of it basically being a PC it's extremely
flexible, though. If you like pf, wait for M0n0 to
go back to 5.x FreeBSD-based--he had to go back to
4.10 due to some driver probs. -John
\_ Apologies, the model number is actually WRT54G. The reason
folks hack on those is because they run Linux. The most
common 3rd party firmware for the WRT54G is by a company at:
http://www.sveasoft.com
It costs money, but I'm told it's worth it. Many wireless
routers are quite similar internally to the WRT54G. Also,
when you talk about newer products, its important to realize
that the WRT54G has been getting frequent regular firmware
updates, which you can download and flash to get the latest
greatest features. If you don't mind spending a fair amount
of cash and want to take the really DIY approach, check out
Soekris which makes small form factor glorified 486's that
are highly expandable/configurable. -dans
\_ I'm not looking for an ultimate router. I just want to
replace my big box with something that's smaller, less
heat, and less power-consumption for my home, without
the router being a complete brain-dead. Thanks for the
pointer.
pointer. - !op #13
\_ See above. The Sveasoft firmware for the WAP-54G is
(was?) free and works a charm. -John
\_ The older versions are free, but through a
Clintonesque interpretation of what the word
'distribute' means, they un-GPL'd the later versions.
Out of spite some people put newer versions in
bittorrent occasionaly.
\_ I recall a shitfest about the source not being
GPL'ed, and the Sveasoft guy basically saying,
"na na a boo boo, so don't use it." The only
real advantage I saw for the casual user was
the 84 (?) mw power boost. -John
\_ You can boost it up to 284 from the default
of 28. But I believe there are plenty of
other firmwares that are completely free that
can do this. - !op #13
\_ I think my wap-54g only does 84. Can you
give me some pointers to other firmwares
if you've tried any? -John
\_ I haven't tried it, but many people
seem to like HyperWRT, whose focus is
to boost the radio:
http://www.hyperwrt.org - !op #13
\_ Capitalist Wireless - sharing 0% of your wireless for free.
Only those who pay can access wireless
Socialist Wireless - sharing 10% of your wireless for free.
EVERYONE gets something, but those who pay get 9X better access.
Communist Wireless - sharing 100% of your wireless for free.
Everyone gets something, but no one gets a premium access.
Fascist Wireless - the government tracks down every single WAP.
\_ 'Socialist Worker' Wireless - Mommy and Daddy pay for wireless. |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Recreation/Activities] UID:37942 Activity:moderate |
6/2 Has anyone traveled with ANA? How are they? Thanks.
\_ I dunno about Ana, but I've traveled with yermom.
\_ Assuming you're talking about All Nippon Airways, they're great.
The people are friendly, everyone in Economy gets their own
screen for movies/video games (SuperMario, golf, tennis, etc.),
the food's not bad, and the flights are almost always on time or
early. When they made an error with my seat, representatives called
me throughout my trip to apologize and make sure that I had a good
seat on the way back. --erikred
\_ Yes, thanks! |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:37943 Activity:kinda low |
6/2 When women drive, evil thrives.
http://csua.org/u/c8z
\_ The Saudis are half right. Now if they could just ban men from
driving cars also, they'd be on to something.
\_ Then they'll have more oil to export. Good for us, good for
them.
\_ Actually they're on to something. Men are more likely to get into
an accident, but they also drive twice as far. Mile for mile, women
are 2X more likely to get into an accident. I can attribute this to
the fact that every time I see someone driving recklessly, it is
a female driver talking on the cell phone while doing make-up. I
also have observations on drivers over 80 years old and immigrant
drivers, but I'll save them later.
\_ WTF do you mean by "immigrant"? Asian backwoods folks? Or Russians?
\_ BS. Where do you get these figures? If driving longer, does
that mean highway (safer) miles? Most accidents happen near the
home and in city/local driving...doesnt mean shit.
\_ BS? http://christianparty.net/mvfr.htm Endorsed by Jesus.
\_ This site is just amazing... Wow. No really, wow.
\_ http://christianparty.net/talmud.htm
Haha! There are some real gems on that site.
I especially love the claim that hybrids are more
susceptible to disease. Or, heck, the claim that
the Celto-Saxons (?) are the true Israelites.
Man, I can just go on and on. Whoever pasted this
link, thanks! -- ilyas
\_ What's a Talmud? It's too long to read. Also,
are you Jewish? What is Balaam?
\- it is a guide for the perplexed.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980516133725data_trunc_sys.shtml |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37944 Activity:moderate |
6/2 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8008873 Freedom in Iraq. Things are getting better. I have no doubt that Bush will be remembered as the greatest leader in the world, liberating and educating the Iraqi savages. \_ Yeah, you know.. things aren't moving fast enough after a war. Why it took 11 years to rebuild Japan under U.S. occupation, how come a little country like Iraq is taking so long! Like today at Starbucks - it took them two minutes to make the damn latte! Oh.. what was I talking about again? \_ Iraq, Vietnam != Japan, Germany ; Gulf War 2 != WW2 \_ Iraq != Vietnam. \_ Iraq ~= Vietnam \_ Only when viewed from an extrememly narrow single-minded viewpoint. The approximation is essentially useless. \_ Your statements are true only when viewed from an extremely narrow, single-minded, and superficial viewpoint. The similarities lie in three critical elements: (1) We went in under assumptions that proved to be either dubious or false. (1a) The assumptions we went in on were ones in which protecting America was fundamental. (2) When we leave {Iraq,Vietnam} because of political realities even with our superior technology and track record of winning almost every battle we fight, we might lose. (3) We didn't have an effective insurgency in post-WW2 {Japan,Germany}. But I will give you several ways they're essentially different: (1) History isn't written in Iraq yet. We might (1) The assumptions we went in on were ones in which protecting America was fundamental. (that's actually the same not different, oh well) (2) History isn't written in Iraq yet. We might eventually win (form a stable government that doesn't build WMDs and opposes terrorism). (2) Deaths of U.S. soldiers are two orders of (3) Deaths of U.S. soldiers are two orders of magnitude lower, and there is no draft. \_ uh, 50K U.S. soldiers died in Vietnam in 13 years. We have over 1K dead in about 2 years. That's at most one order of magnitude different. -tom \_ Shit, you're right. I was looking at Wikipedia and didn't realize the "287,232" was RVN + U.S. Re-doing the math, yes, "at most" but around one order of magnitude difference in terms of annual rate of deaths. \_ Okay, I was dividing by 7 years of having a significant troop present, which gives a significant troop presence, which gives a 60 times difference in deaths anually, but that might be a wrong assumption. \_ What's an order of magnitude between friends. \_ Well, crap. We essentially agree, you just think your reasons they're the same are more important than mine that they're different. I'm too lazy to list a bunch of reasons they're the same or different, I'll just say the A-3 is irrelevent to my point. -!op \_ I don't think deaths really matter to the Americans. 1600 dead isn't a lot and most people don't care, since there's no draft. What really matters is how much our wonder-weapons cost and how much the military is draining our economy, and how worthless our money has become over the past few years. \_ Deaths really matter to Americans if there's a draft. But yeah, no draft, then it's the money we spend on an inefficiently executed war for core assumptions that turned out to be wrong. Oops. \_ With their new founded freedom of speech they can now say anything, including bad things about the evil US imperial occupation and wage media war in the entire Middle East region. \_ This will be fun when they do something akin to Iran (and what Turkey did once) and vote to abandon democracy for theocracy. \_ The US gov hoped the Iraqi people would vote for a secular government, but instead the Iraqi people voted for theocracy: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21679-2005Feb13.html |
| 2005/6/2-5 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:37945 Activity:nil |
6/2 The Governator's Solar Roof Plan passes:
http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/11790776.htm |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Computer/HW/Memory, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:37946 Activity:nil |
6/2 The ultimate ram disk:
http://tinyurl.com/dcenq (infoworld.com) |
| 2005/6/2-5 [Uncategorized] UID:37947 Activity:nil |
6/2 Mod case contest: Hamster-Case wins
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1817511,00.asp |
| 2005/6/2-5 [Politics/Domestic/HateGroups, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:37948 Activity:high |
6/2 http://tinyurl.com/cdksf Average Asian boy IQ=118, average Asian girl IQ=110, average Caucasian boy IQ=108, average Caucasian girl IQ=100. What about Blond Caucasian girl IQ and non-Blond Caucasian girl? You know, like, they totally need to redo this test, like, totally! \_ "Did the "liberals" in education [read: jews]..." are you the same guy as below? \_ Standarad Deviation? That's pretty important here. \_ So men are smarter than women? \_ Berkeley ranks top along with MIT! Rejoice! We're all winners!!! FYI some of the Bell Curve reviews at http://Amazon.com are hilarious! "Them damn Asians are spoiling my KKK world order!" http://csua.org/u/c9b \_ If that's the sort of thing you find entertaining, you may find this amusing: http://csua.org/u/c9c Amazon reviews of Wolfram's book. \- helo there is an article about smart ashkanazim in this week's e'ist. \_ All you people who commented, should look at the URL. It is so overtly racist that I find it hard to credit their "facts": I suspect they've been twisted somewhat to suit an agenda. \_ Dude it's so overtly racist that "twisted somewhat" is giving it way more credit than it deserves. To the person who posted this I sure as hell hope you are a troll, which just makes you mostly a pathetic excuse for a person. |
| 2005/6/2-6 [Consumer/Audio] UID:37949 Activity:nil |
6/2 http://engadget.com/entry/1234000703045433 Apple agrees to settlement in iPod battery class action suit. Thank God this is happening. I've always wondered why my second generation iPod only lasts 4 hours instead of 10. It's pay back time. \_ $25 cash or $50 credit at an Apple store? is there anything worthwhile for ~$50 there? \_ Apple Wireless Mouse. |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:37950 Activity:high |
6/2 Christopher Cox is nominated to be head of SEC:
http://tinyurl.com/aju4p
I remember he is the guy said that *ALL* Chinese Americans
are potentially spy for the communist China. Thank god
9/11 happened, or Chinese will be the one who are being
targeted.
\_ He's also on record as saying that he didn't see anything wrong
with Enron's accounting practices.
\_ Is it not true?
\_ just think that broad statement like that is racist,
nothing more. and he is close to Bush's inner circle.
\_ Not that I particularly have strong feelings either way
on any of this, but I just wanted to make a meta-comment
about people's propensity to care more about whether something
is racist or not, rather than whether something is true or not.
-- ilyas
\_ There's this nuance to human interaction that involves
intent and inflection, which can radically change the
information being transmitted. In these situations, it's
clearly possible that while understanding the meaning
of the words, the content of the message is entirely lost
upon the strict logician/semanticist.
\_ It's too bad that people have become so concerned about
racism, that they've somewhat lost the ability to
distinguish between general stupidity with no malicious
intent and genuine hatred based solely on race. Of
course, evaluating a statement based solely on its truth
can yield information that falls very short of the intent.
There's a bigger picture here than pure semantics, ilyas.
\_ It's fairly clear that the fellow in the original post
wasn't interested in stating a near-tautology, but was
more interested in stirring up some sort of xenophobia
towards Chinese-Americans. I probably didn't explain
well enough that I wasn't commenting on that specific
line at all. I am more interested in people unwilling
to start discussions on things like aptitude differences
among ethnic groups (since such things are 'racist').
The followup which responded to the question of whether
the line was true with the implication it was racist
reminded me of this dynamic playing out (regardless of
how well justified it may be in some cases). I hope you
weren't implying I have Asperger's or something. -- ilyas
\_ Are you also saying intent and inflection is
generally transmittable across the Internet, or are you
just making a general remark? Or perhaps that
someone, somewhere might be having a mild case of
Asperger's syndrome... -- ilyas
\_ "All humans are potential spies for communist China" is a
true statement as well. It is clearly not a racist
statement, but it is a stupid one. From a purely strategic
point of view, paranoia about Chinese scientists has the
potential to harm our country more than any Chinese spy.
In fact, I believe it is doing very real harm to our country
right now.
\_ Some additional 'racist hypotheses' from our friends at
http://economist.com:
http://economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4032638
I am sort of glad these sorts of things can even be
printed these days without being laughed out of the
room. -- ilyas
\_ "On average" vs. "All"
\_ As I said, neither of my comments have been
really about the original post. -- ilyas |
| 2005/6/2-4 [Computer/Companies/Ebay, Computer/HW/Memory] UID:37951 Activity:moderate |
6/2 Help. I purchased 2 RAM modules from eBay, and the listing says
"These units were pulled from a Compaq Proliant Server being
stripped for parts and are in excellent condition." At the same
time, it says "Item sold as is." When I got the RAM they have a
strong burnt smell, and just as I feared, they don't work on ANY
of my motherboards. I contacted the seller and he says sold
"AS IS." This guy is dishonest. I feel jipped. Can I actually do
something to remedy this, besides giving negative feedbacks? Does
dispute resolution actually work on eBay?
\- you can set up throw away accounts and mess with his future
auctions. --psb
\_ I thought about that but I don't have throw-away credit cards
required by eBay. Come on, isn't that kind of childish?
\- you can try googlebombing him then.
if you cancel a CC does ebay find out about it?
\_ oh, googlebombing, I'm sure the seller is SCARED!!! OOOO
\_ Skipping all the mumbo jumbo about legality and what not,
if it came from Proliant, I'd guess that they're registered
DIMMs. What kind of motherboards are you putting them into?
Most consumer boards don't support registered memory.
\- You can resort to credit card dispute resolution service.
that has worked for me 3-4 times. dunno how that will work
in this case [assuming you paid via paypal].
\_ Isn't that totally the point of AS IS? What you should look
for is a "DOA guarantee". "As Is" means "buyer beware".
\_ Unless the post said that they were working, it's your
fault. I always avoid "AS IS."
\_ Excellent condition would imply working. The seller
probably had no clue if they worked or not and didn't
want to test them out. The seller is just covering his
ass, he should refund you your money but he doesn't have
to since it was "as is".
\- i do agree that if you didnt even bother to ask
the seller "did you even try to verify it is working
or do you have no idea" the fault is yours.
a nice seller out to refund minus shipping maybe
but ethical and legal obligations diverge ...
\_ I honestly didn't see the as is claim. Looking back, it's
embedded in a very small print, "Seller's payment instructions
Please see item description Item sold as is." It's a run-on
sentence too. Argh, not happy about this.
\_ Based on what I remember from contracts (and a quick search
on lexis), "as is" effectively cuts off any liability the
seller may have had.
\- the large print giveth and the small print taketh away.
i doubt you have any legal recourse that makes sense to
pursue. it's a matter of cost-benefit now ... i.e. is a
bad review worth the money to the seller, how much time
do you want to spend on this being an asspain etc.
\_ Actually OP says that the "as is" clause was in the
small print which he didn't really see. This may
change things.
iirc, a statement that the ram is in "excellent
condition" could be viewed as an affirmative
representation of the quality. Even in used
goods, this can give rise to a limited warranty.
If OP had seen or should have seen the "as is"
statement then the warranty would be waived, but
if OP couldn't have seen or had no reason to see
the "as is" statement, then the warranty may not
be waived. Contracts wasn't my best subject so
I could be a bit off here.
I agree that it isn't worth bringing a case in
small claims ct over this, but OP might have a
valid claim.
\- as you know even if he gets a small claims judgement
he will never get the sheriff to go collect for him.
how much money are we talking about anyway? what is
LOCATION of seller etc.
\_ My location is CA, his location is WI. Cost is $40. I can spend
$30 on small claims+serve, plus $600 plane ticket. I don't mind
doing in on the basis of PRINCIPLE. That motherfucker needs
to learn a lesson. On the other hand, it may be just as
worthwhile to create eBay accounts, win, then give him bad
ratings. The second option looks very tempting so far. How do
I go about creating disposable eBay accounts? And will they
affect my existing accounts? -op
seller may have had. If you had asked him if the ram worked
and he had said yes, you might be able to rescind the sale.
Absent this, you can't really do much other than give him
negative feedback and maybe annoy him by calling him up
randomly and leaving irate messages on his voice mail.
i doubt you have any legal recourse. it's a matter of
cost-benefit now ... i.e. is a bad review worth the
money to the seller, how much time do you want to spend
on this being a pain in the ass etc.
\- you may wish to read Martin Amis: The Information
\_ The eBay way to handle this is to request a refund, and if denied
leave negative feedback to the effect that he knew he was selling
burnt-out goods. He will either leave a negative feedback on
you, or negoriate to get you to withdraw your feedback in
exchange for a partial refund. |
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