Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2005:May:23 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2005/5/23-25 [Computer/Networking] UID:37799 Activity:nil
5/23    Has anyone played with carp/pfsync on OpenBSD? I have a simple
        two firewall setup, one fw running 3.6, the other running 3.7.
        Right now the 3.6 system is the "master" and everything seems
        to work properly except that I can't ping the virtual ip from
        the master system. Any ideas?
        \_ I've seen this with a lot of virtual IP/failover/load balancers.
           Can you ping it from a box on the external local segment?  -John
           \_ A box on the external segment can ping the two fw, but
              they can't ping each other. I can't seem to figure out
              Anyway, I figured out the original problem, apparently
              not being able to ping the virtual ip from the master
              was a bug in 3.6. thanks.
2005/5/23-26 [Science/Electric] UID:37800 Activity:nil
5/20    Has anyone installed an attic fan? Does it REALLY cool down your
        house while saving 3X the AC electricity fee?
        \_ I don't know about attic fans, house fans are pretty good.
           Pull all the cool air into the house over night, and you
           usually don't need AC during the day.
        \_ In general, you want to make sure your attic has enough
           ventilations, and you have enough insulations in the attic
           to keep the house cool. The insulation will make the
           biggest difference. Here in the bay area, you need about
           12-inches of fiberglass or cellulose to have an R-value
           about 30+ for the attic. Some utilities company will do a
           free energy audit, have them come out and take a look.
2005/5/23-24 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:37801 Activity:nil
5/23    "After it happened, all the people in positions of authority went out
        of their way to script this. They purposely interfered with the
        investigation, they covered it up. I think they thought they could
        control it, and they realized that their recruiting efforts were going
        to go to hell in a handbasket if the truth about his death got out.
        They blew up their poster boy." -Father of Pat Tillman (Post)
        \_ I like this quote:
           ``Maybe lying's not a big deal anymore,'' he said. ``Pat's dead, and
           this isn't going to bring him back. But these guys should have been
           held up to scrutiny, right up the chain of command, and no one has.''
        \_ "Pat isn't with God.  He's fucking dead.  He wasn't religious.
           So thank you for your thoughts, but he's fucking dead."
           -Pat Tillman's youngest brother, at his funeral
2005/5/23-25 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:37802 Activity:low
5/23    There used to be a company called Arts(sp?) Digita or something like
        that.  Anyone knows what happened to it?  Thx.
        \_ Ars Digita
           \_ I like this part: "We bought a Ferrari to give away to any
              employee who recruited 10 friends. In reality the car only cost
              $2,000 per month, the person who won it only got to drive it for
              as long as he or she was employed, and the cost of a Ferrari is
              much lower than 10 headhunter commissions."
              \_ commissions were what, $25k each back then?  still
                 probably around that number today. 10*25=250k
        \_ i used to work there ... they got bought by red hat. pretty much
           everyone got laid off at some pt or another except for i think
           1 guy who went to red hat w/ the technology purchase (also a
           berkeley grad). many of the berkeley people now work at another
           berkeley consulting company that uses some of the open source
           software. I dont know what happened to the boston employess.
2005/5/23-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:37803 Activity:nil
5/23    Does WinXP or Win2000 have a built-in "take a screenshot" function?
        \_ PrtScn copies whole screen to clipboard as BMP.
           Alt-PrtScn copies currently focused window.
           Interestingly it doesn't work with DVDs.
           \_ Probably your DVDs are being played using hardware overlay and
              that is bypassing Window's regular window-drawing system.  Try
              to go into your DVD software and disable hardware overlay (though
              you'll take a perfomance hit).
           \_ Not just DVDs.  Any video you play that uses hardware
              acceleration and a video overlay.
           \_ Thanks.
2005/5/23 [Computer/Companies/Ebay] UID:37804 Activity:high
5/23    So, I'm curious. With all the risks associated with using Paypal,
        why do people do it? If you don't think there are risks, try
        contacting a real person at customer support sometime. The contact
        isn't even an 800 number.
        \_ I have never had a problem and I have used it for five years
           for all my EBay purchases. It makes both paying and accepting
           EBay payments very easy. Why don't you just use email?
           \_ So far, I've not found anything that emails to a real person.
              Please divulge.
              \_ Yeah, so far all my emails just seem to go to a very
                 complex eliza program.
                 \_ Why do you say your emails just seem to go to a very
                    complex eliza program?
                    \_ You sound like M-x doctor.
                       \_ Your emacs fu is weak, young padawan.
                       \_ Earlier you said you are only truly alive
                          when you are covered in polka dots and taco
                       \_ Are you sure?
                          \_ Ahh!  M-x kill-buffer
2005/5/23-26 [Recreation/Humor] UID:37805 Activity:nil
5/23    Ok, this is pretty funny (Star Wars joke)
2005/5/23-26 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:37806 Activity:nil
5/23    Macs use IBM chips, but IBM laptops use Intel chips?  How ironic.
        \_ No such thing as an IBM laptop anymore.
           \_ No more Thinkpads?
              \_ IBM sold their whole PC business (including ThinkPad) to
                 Lenovo.  There are still ThinkPads, but now they're Lenovo
                 \_ Not yet.  Under the agreement, IBM will continue
                    making the ThinkPads for some time.
        \_ ArsTechnica is suggesting they probably just want XScale chips for
           small devices.
        \_ And XBox 360 uses IBM chips, demo'ing on Macs.
        \_ Even better, today there are rumors that Apple is looking into
           using Intel chips in its Mac computers.
           \_ I assume that was just posturing on Apple's part to force IBM
              to do Mac-able versions of Power5/6.  It probably meant anxious
              moments at a certain startup though.
2005/5/23-25 [Health/Men] UID:37807 Activity:nil
5/23    Medicaid covered sex offenders' Viagra (Yahoo! News)
        \_ That's awful.  But how do I get my medical plan to cover viagra?
           \_ Well, first you have to turn 65....
2005/5/23 [Recreation/Media] UID:37808 Activity:nil
5/23    EP3 SPOILER ALERT: So is the reason why Vader can't shoot the lightning
        in eps 4-6 because he doesn't have any real hands? Or because the
        lightning would fry all the hardware that's basically keeping him
2005/5/23-24 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:37809 Activity:kinda low
5/23 (Post)
        A certain and clear pattern has emerged when a damaging accusation or
        claim against the Bush administration or the Republican-led Congress
        is publicized: Bush supporters laser in on a weakness, fallacy or
        inaccuracy in the story's sourcing while diverting all attention from
        the issue at hand to the source or the accuser in the story. ...
        Some will argue that such questions are irrelevant or miss the point
        because Bush's bold action in Iraq got rid of a tyrant who was abusing
        his own people and because it will eventually lead to the spread of
        democracy in the area. Both may be true. But the case for war was
        built neither on humanitarianism nor on spreading democracy. Those
        arguments were, at most, used to bolster the main case, which was that
        Iraq was building weapons of mass destruction and presented an
        imminent threat to America and its allies.
        \_ Bud Day doesn't appreciate your tone of voice.
           \_ If you really respected BUD DAY you would always capitalize
              His name.
              \_ You've obviously never served.
                 \_ If he did, it would destablize the middle east for
                    \_ Are you Chinese?  Do you understand the effect BUD
                       DAY had on the American War effort in China?
                    \_ Heh, I missed this one.
2005/5/23-24 [Recreation/Media] UID:37810 Activity:high
5/23    Do it somewhere else.  How about /tmp/ep3 like someone suggested before?
        \_ Why? As long as it has a "spoiler tag" I think it's time to shut up.
           Seriously this movie does not have that many "spoilers" for anyone
           who has followed the Star Wars stuff so far, which is most people.
        \_ SPOILER ALERT! Anakin becomes Darth Vader. Padme gives birth to
           twins and names them Luke and Leia. Yoda and Obi Wan are the only
           surviving Jedi.
           \_ NOOOOOOOOOOO!  That's impossible!
                \_ It seemed that she didn't hesitate when naming her kids.
                   Is it revealed anywhere (online, elsewhere) why she picked
                   the names Luke and Leia?
                   \_ The force told her.
                   \_ She saw them in a movie once.
           \_ They were the only Jedi Counsel members that survived.  There
              may have been many more Jedis that never went back to the
              temple.  So if they wanted to hide the twins, why take 'em to
              A: A senator or whatever high position the NYPD guy had
              B: a living relative
                \_ Because theoretically, anakin wiped out all the jedi, as
                   instructed by the emperor.
        \_ Eh, fuck you.  All the hardcore nerds have seen it by now.  The
           film, while not quite awful, probably should have a warning label.
           In the interim, reviews will suffice. -dans
        \_ The secret nobody wants to let out is that Natalie Portman's
           character is really a dude.  In the last scene you get to see
           her cock.
2005/5/23-24 [Uncategorized] UID:37811 Activity:nil
5/23    #  Tech Support: "I need you to boot the computer."
        # Customer: (THUMP! Pause.) "No, that didn't help."
        \_ If he/she's in Tech Support, he/she should've known to say
           "I need you to restart your computer."
2005/5/23-24 [Uncategorized] UID:37812 Activity:low
5/23    Sith reviews already? where's ~psb/starwarsreviews1-6.txt ?
           SPOILERS KONTAINEN!!!!!
           \_ i thought monday was the end of the moratorium.
              \_ some limp dick is still deleting it
                 \_ What a wanker.  In a nutshell, you're going to see it
                    anyway, face your destiny.  That said, you don't get those
                    nearly 2.5 hours of your life back.  Don't resist the urge
                    to scream ``For the love of god George, make it stop!''
                    during the love scenes. -dans
2005/5/23-6/23 [Uncategorized] UID:37813 Activity:nil 66%like:37356
5/23    /var is full!
                \_ Not anymore, thanks to twohey.  --PeterM
2005/5/23-26 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:37814 Activity:nil
5/23    Fox's angle on Star Wars vs. Republicans:,2933,157229,00.html,2933,157229,00.html
        \_ I see everything twice!
        \_ "By and large, the rebellion's supporters were ordinary people who
            wanted self-determination, republican government, and free
            enterprise in place of the Galactic Empire's oppression, economic
            controls, and high taxes."
           Typical Fox handwaving, to imply that republican government is
           the equivalent of Republican-dominated government.
2005/5/23-25 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:37815 Activity:moderate
5/23    How Pentagon wastes 5 billion dollars:
        \_ Oh my! The horror!
        \_ Yeah, I hate science too.  Discovering new things about fusion.
           Pssh.  How could THAT be useful?
        \_ Yeah, I know.  I mean, honestly, that money could be put to so many
           better uses -- like a solid gold monument of the 10 commandments,
           or giant marble statues of jesus, or maybe funding for a new
           religious science university and another 'intelligent design'
           museum somewhere.  All those damned scientists spending money on
           their newfangled 'technology' and 'research'.  They don't go to
           church on sundays, they don't get federal funding.
           church on sundays, they shouldn't get federal funding.
           \_ Hey, who deleted the gold plated marble Jesus?  We could build
              that 900 foot tall Jesus that Oral Roberts is always seeing.
        \_ So.  Are you religious right, or chicom troll?
        \_ I'd much rather the Pentagon spend the money building lasers for
           fusion than invading Iraq.
           \_ fusion tech would not serve republican business interests
2005/5/23-26 [Uncategorized] UID:37816 Activity:nil
5/23    Greedo Lives!
2005/5/23-24 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:37817 Activity:nil
        "Centrists from both parties reached a compromise Monday night to
        avoid a showdown on President Bush's stalled judicial nominees and the
        Senate's own filibuster rules ..."
        \_ Watch freepers scream and rant
           \_ Bill Frist got pwnd.
              \- how do you figure this isnt a 95% republican victory? --psb
                 \_ It's a delay of game penalty. When a Supreme steps down
                    and Demos try the same thing, the filibuster will fall.
                    In fact, I doubt it will be that close.
                    \_ So you're saying the 7 Democratic senators in on the
                       compromise will filibuster the next SCOTUS nominee,
                       and for that nominee, there won't be 6 Republican
                       senators to vote to prevent use of the nuclear option?
                       In any case, I could see use of the nuclear option for
                       SCOTUS nominees by both parties (initiated by the GOP
                       and tit-for-tat by Dems in 2008-2012), but a general
                       reluctance for appeals court and other judges.
                       I also give it a 50% chance that Dubya will nominate
                       a non-wacko SCOTUS candidate as the first one, obviating
                       the need for a filibuster.
                       \- without taking a stand on what that probability p
                          will be [and it may depend whether it is the CJ or
                          and AJ] i think the probability certainly is
                          affected by how bruised he is ... over Bolton,
                          over Social Security etc. This is obvious but the
                          point being you can score points that have an affect
                          down the road even if you lose early on.
2005/5/23-26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:37819 Activity:high
5/23    "Bottom of the barrel---white American chicks. Yecch...
        most women in Western countries have that cold, bitchy,
        superficial, stuck up attitude. A lot of Western women hold
        themselves as the pure center of the relationship..."
        \_ Yes, but most intelligent, educated, cultured, whatnot non-American
           women I know probably wouldn't look twice at the Bud-swilling
           frat boy who wrote this.  -John
           \_ you're absolutely right, they rather look at classy reliable
              sophisticated dependable well refined opera loving SwissEuro men
              who tick effeminately like the watch, as opposed to American
              men who are rough, tough, and don't take no crap off nobody,
              like the Brawny toilet paper.
              \_ No, just not assholes with "issues" like the guy who wrote
                 that paper.  Being rejected too often tends to do that. -John
              \_ I see.  In your worldview you're either a bud-swilling
                 frat boy or an opera loving SwissEuro?  I think a far more
                 realistic scenario is that you're a blithering idiot.
              \_ Errr. Right.  I'm not sure what this means, and I think I
                 like it that way.
                 \_ 1 statement, 2 insults (to Swiss and American men)
        \_ I agree with most of it except: "The people there were lining the
           women up for him to meet...he's a rich American guy...they are
           considered the best husbands in the world."  I don't see how foreign
           women marrying for money is better than American women being needy.
           -- guy with Chinese wife.
           \_ Or more to the point, rich Japanese guy trumps rich American
              guy these days, especially in Asia.
           \_ Many people work for the sake of money.  But that doesn't mean
              everyone who work for the sake of money are equivalent.  A
              pleasant and hardworking person working for money can be a
              good coworker and employee.  An asshole is going to stay an
        \_ Just stop dating the materialistic ho-bags.  Or maybe those are the
           only ones interested in you.
           \_ The OP didn't mention money in his quote, but merely "cold,
              bitchy, superficial, [and] stuck up".  I submit that a
              person can be indifferent to money and still be "cold, bitchy,
              superficial, [and] stuck up".
        \_ lila are you going to respond? This site is trashing your kind.
        \_ if you go to thailand, you will find a lot of guys like this one:
           fat balding middle aged white guys in hawaiian shirts with
           15 y.o. skinny thai girls on their arms, both desperately
           trying to look like they are enjoying themselves
           \_ Only one will be 'trying' right? ;)
              \_ Well, I don't know about that, actually. If I was a middle
                 aged guy and the only way I could get pussy was by paying
                 for it, I think I would feel pretty much like a loser.
                 \_ I dunno -- I think there's alot to be said for zero-strings
                    zero-reciprocal obligation sex.  I mean, you pay for what,
                    an hour of service and then she's gone?  Christ, there
                    were times where I'd have been willing to pay my exes
                    are times where I'd have been willing to pay my exes
                    just to get gone, sex or no sex.
                    just to go away, sex or no sex.
                    \_ you don't pay them to show up, you pay them to go
                       \_ I'm...not sure what you're talking about.
              (NWS and somewhat eyeball searing, if you hadn't guessed)
           \_ Concur--I don't think I saw any attractive westerners at all
              in Bangkok.  -John
              \_ Why did you go to Bangkok John?
                 \_ To visit my girlfriend who's on a 10-week project there,
                    and to make excursions to Cambodia/Laos/Burma and the
                    North of Thailand (and of course to look for cheap
                    boom-boom girls to host embryos for our Master Race
                    Breeding Program.)  -John
                    \_ Pics for boom-boom girls please?
                       \_ Actually I didn't see any at all.  However, some of
                          my associates assure me that there is some fairly
                          physiologically exceptional stuff to be seen in
                          various Bangkok back rooms.  Whatever floats your
                          boat, Thai girls aren't my thing.  -John
                    \_ What exactly is boom-boom girl?  -- clueless
                    \_ Don't you mean to bring back Master Disease back to the
                       Master Race?
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