2/26 What hard drives do you recommend? To stay away? Reliability is
top priority.
\_ regardless of brand, I've found a strong correlation between HDs
that fail with enclosures that don't have good airflow. I've had 3
consecutive WD-200 Caviar failures in 6 months on this particular
computer while the same WD-200 Caviar didn't fail on any of my
other computers. It turns out that the airflow sucks and the HD
gets really really hot, to more than 130F. Nowadays I use special HD
fans in conjunction with good filtered in and out fans that bring
down the temperature to 80-90F. It's been 1 years since I did that
and I haven't had any failure.
\_ If reliability is top priority, then SCSI-Anybody. The SCSI discs
are aimed at business users and are built to much higher standards
and typically come with a 5yr warranty vs. 1 year on consumer-level
ATA drives.
\_ SCSI is on its way out. Get SATA with a 3 year warranty.
Western Digital and Seagate seem to be high quality.
\_ Seconded. If you really care about reliability then you should
go with SCSI (either u160 or u320) drives. If you are unwilling
(or unable) to pay the SCSI reliability premium, SATA drives
from either WD or Seagate are not bad. Like the poster below
says stay away from Maxtor.
\_ If reliability is top priority use RAID and keep backups. Stay
away from Maxtor drives.
\_ In all my years of dealing with hardware, I've found that
no one drive manufacturer is consistently reliable. I would
have to say that Maxtors do have a perceived reliability
problem, but I've only had one maxtor about to fail and
one which is somewhat unreliable, they did
replace one within a reasonable amount of time. The worst
drive failure I've had so far was an IBM, and it was out of
warranty by less than a year. I've had Seagate fail on me
also, but those were old seagates from Ultra10s, which are
known to have used cheapie parts.
\_ I had a Hitachi (formerly IBM's disk division) drive fail
within the warranty period. I have a few acquaintances who
had IBM drive failures. My ancient Maxtor's still ticking.
-- ilyas
\_ I had a Hitachi that was DOA, then its replacement (shipped
from factory) was also DOA, and then another, and finally
another. That was all one incident. I vowed to never
again buy a Hitachi.
As for perceived reliability, I've had mixed experiences
over the years. Maxtor and WD have been *equally* reliable
in that I think I've only RMA'd one or two of each in the
50+ hard drives I've owned. I had one IBM deathstar which
did exactly what its name promised.
I figure that the internals are all come from the same
place, so as said below, buy for warranty. Always assume
that the drive will fail and that you'll have to replace
it. Since *all* PATA drives are being knocked down to 1
year warranties now, I just watch the deal sites and buy
the cheap and big maxtor or wd drive of the week. - jvarga
\_ actually, on the contrary, all seagate drives now
come with a 5 year warranty. there are still other
drives out there with at least a 3 year warranty.
\_ how the hell do you own 50+ hard drives? Are you a
sysadm or an avid porn DVD collector?
\_ 50 hard drives over my geek lifetime. My current
main system has 5, my server 3. 160GB hard drives
are also cheap enough as to where I can buy one,
back up everything to it, then just go stick it in
my fire safe. I currently have 2 or 3 160's just
sitting in my safe. - jvarga
\_ Where do you put your safe?
\_ The safe is under the right side of my bed. The
combination is 26-36-15. I go to work at 9am
and do not come back home until 6pm. The alarm
code is 23049. The front door key is under the
hollow rock to the left of my front door. Why
do you ask? - jvarga
\_ Heh, that's amusing. -mice
\_ "Egad Brain, what are we gonnna do tonight?
Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try
to take over the world."
\_ finger pinky
\_ finger brain
\_ finger mice
\_ Truthfully, in terms of reliability it does not
matter. They are all very close. IBM, Fujitsu,
Seagate, or whatever. It doesn't matter. Buy for
warranty and performance. I prefer SCSI drives for
performance, but they don't seem to last any longer
(in fact, less long - probably because of heat with
the higher RPMs).
\_ Well put!
\_ Strangely, my impression is much different.
In terms of mainstream IDE drives with at least three years
of warranty:
Hitachi > Western Digital > Maxtor, Samsung, Seagate
In terms of notebook drives:
Hitachi >> everyone else.
In terms of IDE drives with 1 year warranty, you got me,
since I don't buy those.
\_ I've had 2 Hitachi (IBM) notebooks drives die on me
relatively quickly, replaced with Seagate. Quantum drives
died pretty fast as well. I noticed most high end stuff
uses Seagate, that's my current brand of choice. |