1/22 My gf and I were always fit, but as we get older we'd like to
start working out. We already do stuff like Pilates. We want to
learn to weight train, but not break the bank. Where do we start?
We checked out some health clubs and they seem more geared towards
parting us from our money. Do we hire a trainer? If so, how do we
choose one?
\_ Have you looked at the good ole fashioned YMCA? There are many
cheaper but the Y staff aren't used car salesmen. Most Ys
have pools, sauna, hot tub, steam room, towel service, many many
classes, trainers (separate fee) and, should you end up that way,
2 hours of free child care/visit. -- ulysses
\_ How about getting your own weight machine type of thing and
using it?
\_ Sure. Which one works and how do we learn to use it?
\_ Get a bench and a bunch of free weights. The home machines are
not worth what you have to pay for them.
\_ Don't discount gyms out of hand--I'd ask around. There are bound
to be reputable ones, which will give you help with weight
training (before trying a new exercise, you should ask someone who
knows what they're doing, or you'll very possibly do it wrong and
have no benefit or hurt yourself--lots of people are embarrassed to
ask the trainers at gyms, which is what they are paid for.) If
you get a home setup, the above poster's spot-on. -John
\- re: "health clubs seem like a ripoff" ... what do you feel
is a reasonable monthly or yearly fee for a "health club"?
and i assume you mean a gym. if you want stuff like towel
service, you should expect to pay. if you feel the gym fees
are too much, i think you will find the trainer fees high.
you do pilates? are you a woman? --psb
you do pirates? are you a woman? --psb
\_ It's interesting that you point out the "gym" vs. "health
club" thing. I've spent the last few months comparing
outfits in the east bay. There are now many many more
"health clubs" than gyms. For gyms you have Gold's, World,
God's (in Oakland) and Ironworks. Everybody else is a
health club, which range from hole in the wall personal
trainers to glorified yoga studios to full-on 24 Hour-esque
franchises like Club One. The neighborhood gym appears to
be a thing of the past. -- ulysses
\_ Are you asking me? I have no clue, as my gym is in .ch. I
get good weights & exercise machines, it's clean, the
trainers are professionals, and a sauna/hot tub/steam bath,
squash courts and nice selection of exercise classes for
about 70 bucks/month. -John
\_ It's not that the fees are too high. It's that the clubs
seem mostly interested in screwing you out of your money
in the way a used car dealer does. I didn't find anything
upfront about it and I wasn't exactly sure what I'd be
paying for. At least with a trainer I'd feel less likely
I'm being fucked around with - or are trainers also a
shady lot?
\_ Could you be more specific about their ripoff schemes?
I've never joined a gym, but I'm curious.
\_ I would definitely lift for the first couple of months with a
professional who knows what they're doing. It's very easy to
injure yourself on weights if you don't know what you're doing.
I think after the first few months you could indeed lift without
a trainer. However, remember that weight lifting is not
super-aerobic, and you should pair it with some cardio-based
workouts for your heart. -chaos
\_ Consider joining the Cal Alumni Association (a flat $500 for a
lifelong membership, or $50 per year if you don't think you're
going to live 10 more years), and then signing up with the RSF.
\-I think the RSF is a poor choice unless possible you live within
walking distance or you are trying to hit on students. The hours
arent great. It is crowded. It is hard to park. It is not really
cheaper than other options. It only has one branch. etc. --psb
cheaper than other options. It only has one branch. etc. What is
good about the RSF? --psb
\_ the college babes?
\_ At Berkeley?!
\_ Uhm, yes.
\_ I don't believe it.
\_ You haven't been to campus recently, have you? :)
\_ I haven't but my wife is there almost everyday.
She assures me that the eye candy for women
is more plentiful than that for men, just as was
the case in the mid 90's when I was there. This
compared to her earlier campus, UCLA, where she
said she often felt faint walking through
campus for all the esteem-destroying
competition. Not in Berkeley. If you can
prove otherwise with pix. Please post.
\_ I don't think using UCLA or UCSD as a
standard is sane.
\_ I guess it depends on whether you prefer
the bleached blond, fake bake, boob job look
over the healthy lean asian hottie. I prefer
the latter.
\_ Have you not sat down and watched at
UCLA yet? You can also go to Beverly
Center on a weekend.
\_ A healthy number of pools, fitness classes, a good range of
equipment, and you'll always be in better shape than that
old Sociology prof who keeps trying to make good on his
'01 resolutions. Seriously, though, it's fine if you live
nearby, much less so if you don't.
\_ The RSF gym is not just crowded. It's VERY crowded when I was
in school a decade ago. You couldn't do something like do a
set, rest 10sec, and do one more, because there would be six or
seven pairs of eyes looking at you disgustingly. You have to
either start your next set immediately, or get up and wait at
the end of the long line again.
\_ You can haggle. My 24 hour fitness membership is 24 a month
and my company reimburses me for it. But you pay a huge fee
up front.
\_ Indeed, I acted extremely hesitant when I went in to sign
up at one place, so the guy kept tacking on extra months
at no extra cost. Then he gave me a $100 gift certificate
at a shoe store, free training sessions, etc..
\_ Ah, so at 24Hour things are negotiable. I didn't know that.
\_ When I lived in LA back in 1996, I went to Family Fitness.
Lots of machines, nice friendly atmosphere, new and clean
facilities. No frills except for a juice / smoothie bar.
It was like $100 for 6 months then, and they stated it
upfront, no oily sales pitch, no any other fees, just $100
for 6 months.
\_ 24 Hour bought Family Fitness a while back. All hail 24.
\- The one thing I will advise you is if you get any special deals
absolutely get them in writing. I asked for things like being
able to put the membership clock on pause when i was on travel
and sometimes they "forgot" about those agreements or didnt
mention you can only do tht for n-weeks or that there was a
$10 charge to freeze etc. Otherwise if you know what you want,
the pressure shouldnt matter too much.
\_ go to UCLA. Go to the John Wooden Center nearby Ashe Center.
They have a really nice synthetic wall to climb, 3 really really
nice swimming pools, and the gals there look fantastic. Maybe
you can get a new gf as well [one who doesn't yet need to workout]
\_ Go to a gym to find a girl who doesn't need to workout? I
would speculate they look great because they work out.
Otherwise they wouldn't be there.
\_ You and your damn logic.
\_ Threesomes will keep you healthy.
\_ With a female third or male?
\_ Which way is your bread buttered?
\_ Hmm.
1) The third guy screws you while you screw your gf's
front.
2) You screw the third guy while he screws your gf's rear.
3) The third guy screws your gf's front while you screw her
rear.
Each of the three of you have two partners and four
different intercourses. It only takes three positions.
Highly optimized.
\_ If sex were about optimization, you'd just go to a
sperm bank.
\_ Sperm bank is for reproduction, not sex.
\_ This works just as well for guy-girl-girl.
\_ As long as the extra girl has a penis.
\_ Or strap-on, if you're so inclined. However,
you can get four intercourses per person in
m-f-f scenario as well, as long as you include
oral (and why not? You're already accepting
anal). |