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| 2005/1/5 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:35546 Activity:nil |
1/4 The root drive on my OS X box is getting full. I want to move
the fink installation /sw to another volume and then create a
symbolic link for this. What can possibly be broken by this? |
| 2005/1/5 [Politics/Foreign/Europe, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:35547 Activity:high |
1/4 Updated govt. aid figures:
Australia: $765m
Germany: $680m
Japan: $500m
US: $350m
\_ Politicizing disaster relief is sickening.
\_ http://www.filibustercartoons.com/archive.php?id=20050105
\_ How much has been given privately? How much does it cost for our
carrier group and soldiers to be over there helping?
\_ ssshhhh!
\_ Sorry, didn't mean to feed the trolls.
\_ Yeah, but do the Indonesian people think that way?
\_ Who cares? |
| 2005/1/5 [Computer/Networking] UID:35548 Activity:kinda low |
1/5 Has anyone ever got Linux (or any UNIX flavor) to work with a D-Link
Airplus Wireless PCI card?
\_ Try ndiswrapper.
\_ Be more specific about the exact model. Dlink changes things
without changing the models.
http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz |
| 2005/1/5 [Uncategorized] UID:35549 Activity:nil |
1/5 I ran across the word "ipseity" in a poem, and I'm wondering about
the root ipse, which the oed defines as, "truly himself..." for you
latin enthusiasts, does this word have an included gender, or is
the oed just defaulting to male? Is there an equivalent female or
gender neutral pronoun?
\_ please. no poem reading here.. unless it's to solve
a quest in MUD or something.
\_ nm! google says, "ipsa ipsum," although it doesn't have the
english "borrow word" connotation of ipse. |
| 2005/1/5 [Uncategorized] UID:35550 Activity:moderate |
1/5 Man, I'm trying to log into bearfacts and it's taking a week.
What's up?
\_ winter hibernation
\_ buh-duh-CHA! |
| 2005/1/5 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:35551 Activity:high |
1/4 [WARNING: Libertarian love-fest below]
\_ Warning: communist dumbass above
\_ thanks for the case in point, false dichotomy, and needless
invective
\_ What makes you think there was any dichotomy? Or that the
invective was needless? Here's another question: which of
the following responses are "libertarian love-fests"?
Updated govt. aid figures:
Australia: $765m
Germany: $680m
Australia: $810m
Germany: $674m
Japan: $500m
US: $350m
\_ Australia's up to $1b now. The bidding is amazing.
\_ Politicizing disaster relief is sickening.
\_ http://www.filibustercartoons.com/archive.php?id=20050105
\_ What? Isn't Sri Lanka a Buddhist country instead of Muslim?
\_ *cringe* Given Sri Lanka's history of "disappearing" rebels
and collaborators (i.e., from both sides), the second thought
that crossed my mind on hearing of the disaster was "Will
either side take advantage of the confusion to get rid of
rivals?" The same thought could well be applied to Aceh in
Indonesia.
\_ Egeland, the UN Humanitarian Chief, calls this "competitive
compassion".
\_ How much has been given privately? How much does it cost for our
carrier group and soldiers to be over there helping?
\_ ssshhhh!
\_ Sorry, didn't mean to feed the trolls.
\_ Yeah, but do the Indonesian people think that way?
\_ Who cares?
\_ Americans give privately, not through their government. (As it
should be.) Why don't you add up the contributions to, say, the
International Red Cross by country?
\_ Huh, well, personally I believe that forced charity is the
only real charity. |
| 2005/1/5-6 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:35552 Activity:high |
1/5 Phew! Quit that job just in time!
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050105/transmeta_stock_2.html
--lye
\_ tell us about transmeta, like was it cool while you were there?
is the technology really that cool? what did you work on?
\_ The technology is very cool, but it has become a solution for
a problem that doesn't exist. The Pentium M essentially makes
Transmeta's hardware moot. The amount of engineering labor
required to make code morphing really work is immense, and
it is the kind of labor that PhDs are not fond of. TMTA is
staffed with lots and lots of PhDs. I'm sure you can imagine
the sorts of management drama that resulted from that.
I myself worked on x86 verification, which essentially meant
writing lots of directed tests in x86 assembly that tested
thousands of corner cases. In x86, virtually everything is
a corner case due to legacy support, especially in floating
point. I also wrote and managed random testers. I Learned
A Lot, but it was Not Fun.
I also learned that Linus Torvalds is a very nice man who drives
like a complete maniac.
--lye
\_ what kind of car did he drive? and is he a nice guy?
\_ Yellow Mercedes Benz SLK32 AMG. --lye
\_ Did Ditzel go down in flames too? I see that he's making $411K
a year, but did he manage to sell his stock in time?
\_ Ditzel was well equipped with all manner of golden parachutes.
While I was there, he typically unloaded 100s of thousands of
shares a month, which he was optioned at a very low price.
This is all a matter of public record, I believe. --lye
\_ I think this is a very good move, even if they don't make it.
The code morphing is very cool, I have always thought this would
be a great match for a next generation of high performance chips.
A brilliant way to help move away from the aweful x86 ISA. -jwm
\- you're an idiot. -tom
\_ In case you were wondering, this response has gotten old, at
least for me. -- ulysses
\_ Someone (probably crebbs or erikred) has decided that
it's amusing to post that in my name. I certainly
wouldn't use psb's "\-". And I don't think jwm is an
idiot. -tom
\_ dude, fuck off. What the hell is wrong with you anyway?
I didn't post with your username. It seems obvious
that erikred didn't either. Nor did I think it amusing
when someone did it in the middle of our thread.
-crebbs
\_ Doh! I should have thought of that. -- ulysses
\_ tom, I promise you, I have never nor would I ever post
under your name. I have a soft-spot for loveable cranks,
so I'm not likely to alter or delete your posts, either.
Keep on trucking. --erikred
\_ Tom is right on here, although he probably didn't need to
resort to insults. Code morphing is "cool," but essentially
useless. Is there a word for technolgy like this?
Slashdotware? --lye
\_ I recently suggested to google scholar that they add
an Erdos number calculator. -- ilyas
\_ That would fucking rock. Could you post if they
respond? I wonder if they would be more likely to do
it if they got more requests for it. The only time
I sent a suggestion to google(about their calculator)
it was totally ignored.
\_ What was your suggestion? I might be able to talk
to someone who can get it done.
\_ I made another suggestion to scholar a while back
that got put on a feature list, apparently.
-- ilyas
\_ I respect your opinion on this because you know
a great deal more than I do about this. To me it
seems that it could be very useful, and in fact
practical in the sense that it could be used to solve
real problems. But I am very interested in your take
on it as someone with experience. --jwm
\_ It's a very long story - but essentially code morphing,
no matter how good it is at individual benchmarks,
never "feels" like "real" hardware from the native
instruction set that you are emulating. Translation
time lag always leads to a jerkiness and the feeling
that the computer is "shifting gears." This is on
top of the fact that getting the translator to do the
right thing in all cases while optimizing for
performance is extremely hard. --lye
\_ Java is the term I use.
\_ So what did you work on at Transmeta? |
| 2005/1/5 [Industry/Jobs, Recreation/Humor] UID:35553 Activity:kinda low |
1/5 Need someone to show the parents for the holidays but put off by the
stigma attached to hiring a lady of the night? Now there's a service
for you:
http://csua.org/u/al5
\_ ob hawt bengali potemkin dates for partha
\_ HAHAHAHA funny funny, thanks for sharing it. Keep up the funny
links! |
| 2005/1/5 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:35554 Activity:nil |
1/5 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143400,00.html Playboy to Unveil iBods (and this is on the Fox News headline, no wonder they're the most watched news regardless of obvious political slant). \_ Fox panders to sex all the time. O'Reilly seems to have particular problems with this (which made the sexual harassment case consistent with his character). |
| 2005/1/5-6 [Uncategorized] UID:35555 Activity:low |
1/5 What is the best open source spreadsheet program on *nix? I tried
open offce some time ago and it seemed awful. I don't need fancy
features. Just basic functionality, few bugs. tnx
\- well there is oleo and various emacs options.
\_ What version did you try? OO is functional nowadays with 1.3.
meaning no big bugs. It's still soemwhat slow, so not recommended
if you're running it on crap machine.
\_ sc seems to work for trivial stuff.
\_ I use ooffice as in Fedora Core 3 with no problem and good
functionality. --PeterM |
| 2005/1/5-6 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:35556 Activity:kinda low |
1/5 WoW players, what are your experiences? Is it soloable at high levels?
How does it compare to other games you've played?
\_ Come to #wow on screwdriver irc.
\_ Come to #wow on screwdriver.CSUA irc.
\_ Whether or not it is soloable really depends on class. DONT be a
mage if you want to solo! Paladins probably work the best for that.
Grouping isn't forced but definitely makes some things easier.
Very addictive, very well done, great graphics and artwork.
Crafting seems to largely be a waste/hobby. Take up two gathering
clases for professions, just for the money. Occasional server
problems, but not more than any MMO I've dealt with. -ERic
\_ Hunter and warlock are the best solo classes. All classes can
solo.
\_ My younger brother who plays it really likes the fact that PKing is
encouraged. Dying isn't a big deal unlike other games - you don't
lose much time and none of your cash or items.
And if you don't want to be a PK you can just leave the PK flag off.
There's also a challenge/duel option where, at the end of the duel,
the two fighters remain alive and retain their original HP.
\_ Unless you play on a PvP server, in which case you can't turn
off the PvP flag in contested or enemy territory. Also, you
don't return to your original HP after duels, but at least
you don't die. Anymore. -geordan
\_ In conclusion, nerf paladins. -geordan |
| 2005/1/5-6 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:35557 Activity:high |
1/6 I'm trying to compile an album of famous anti-war songs
(the ones that have actually made it to the top 100 in the last
50 years) and I have the followings. Please add to the list,
thanks for your help:
Eve of Destruction - Barry McGuire
Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater
Incense and Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock
Universal Soldier - Donovan
War - Edwin Starr
We Got to Get Out of This Place - Animals
What's Going On - Marvin Gaye
Where Have All the Flowers Gone - Kingston Trio
I Ain't Marching Anymore - Phil Ochs
\_ I don't think "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" was an antiwar song.
Bob Dylan's most explicit anti-war songs ("Masters of War" and
"Blowin' in the Wind") don't seem to have charted, but are famous.
"Knockin' on Heavens Door" might qualify, as could Les McCann's
"Compared to What."
\_ Black Eyed Peas - Where is the Love?
\_ Kinky Sex makes the World Go Round - Dead Kennedys
\_ Born in the USA - Bruce Springsteen
\_ Imagine - Beatles
\_ John Lennon
\_ Puff the magic dragon.
\_ Puff the magic dragon. -lewis
\_ http://www.zmag.org/songs/songarchive.htm |
| 2005/1/5 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:35558 Activity:very high |
1/5 Curious, does any of you have problem with Alberto Gonzales'
nomination? His memo on terrorism detainees sound a lot like
what Hitler said before Germany invaded USSR. Does average peons
like us has any means to influence the outcome?
\_ Yes. No.
\_ No, yes.
\_ Yes, Yes.
\_ No, No, are we happy now? hahahahaha
\_ I am afraid this is a zero-sum game.
\_ I have questions to ask. Will you, as attorney general,
immolate 80 people including women and children because
they happened to stockpile weapons?
\_ The idea of Janet Reno carrying a flamethrower is sexy.
Will you, as attorney general, order
a SWAT team to steal at gunpoint a child who escaped
from a Communist totalitarian state, and whose mother
died bringing him here?
\_ Wow, you really bought into Cuban exile sob story, didn't you?
\_ Zaire, Angola, Algeria, Nicaragua, Soviets and Venezuala...
\_ Zaire,Angola,Algeria,Nicaragua,Soviets,Venezuala & Cuba...
put that in your engine and search it! Yea, an actual
understanding of Cuba's geopolitics has made me a real
sucker.
Will you , as attorney general, distract the nation's
law enforcement for political gain with overwrought
statements about anti-government militias, while there
is a Islamic storm on the horizon?
\_ That's right, you want the FBI (domestic) to stop focusing
their efforts domestically and instead arrest people outside US.
\_ Ok, so you hate Janet Reno. So who was the last non-evil AG?
If you say Ashcroft, you are beneath contempt.
\_ Gonzales: As long as you allow me to approve the use of torture
on Enemy Combatants and hold them as long as I like, I promise
not to do any of the above.
\_ yea... thank god Reno did not put underwear on the Branch
Davidian's or Elian's head!!!
\_ Or imprison them indefinitely without counsel. Or attack
them with dogs. Or electrocute them. Or whatever else it
turns out has happened at Gitmo.
\_ barking dogs and having your writ of habeus corpus
denied by a federal judge... oh the humanity!
\_ And I have one question: Why do you hate America? |
| 2005/1/5 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:35559 Activity:nil |
1/5 Message from Iraq: link:tinyurl.com/48lpn |
| 2005/1/5 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media] UID:35560 Activity:nil |
1/5 Note: the "message from Iraq" was a propaganda video in Windows Media
Player format. I didn't erase your link, but unless you're willing to
be honest about the content, expect it to disappear again. |
| 2005/1/5-6 [Finance/CC] UID:35561 Activity:nil |
1/5 Is this site for real?
http://www.optoutprescreen.com
They say they'll help you opt-out of receiving pre-approved credit card
junk mail, but they were registered in August 2004 through GoDaddy.
(Not that there's anything wrong with GoDaddy, but it seems weird to
give your name and ssn to a site registered through them.)
\_ It looks real to me, but if you're not sure, you can always do
it by phone. The number 1-888-5-OPTOUT is definitely real (see
http://www.experian.com/preapproved_credit/opting_out.html |
| 2005/1/5 [Uncategorized] UID:35562 Activity:nil |
1/5 Message from Iraq: link:tinyurl.com/48lpn
Yes this is a propaganda video, but nowadays, what isn't? |
| 2005/1/5-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:35563 Activity:very high |
1/5 So who else thinks that Linux Kernel Development has gone haywire?
WTF is up with this movement from an 8k to a 4k stack in the kernel
that breaks tons of existing drivers that are ported over from
Windows? And wtf is this crap doing on production distros like
Fedora? Don't they realize that if you're going to have a large
install base that you can't arbitrarily do crap like that anymore?
\_ I agree that they are lame and have always have been, but
Fedora isn't a production distro. That's RHEL.
\_ So in other words RH just became even dumber than they used to
be by foisting Fedora on the user community and charging
for the bugfree version.
\_ Fedora is a development platform; that's how it is positioned.
If you don't want a development platform, run RHEL, or
debian or whatever. It's not being "foisted" on you. -tom
\_ No shit sherlock. But the problem is that usually what
happens in Fedora is just reflected in RHEL. RH being
the dumbass company that it is obviously doesn't
do anything like do a real-world usability test on
its distro so going from one major release to the next
results in all your binaries being broken. Also,
a lot of end-user end up using Fedora because they
stopped distributing RH, so in effect it is being
foisted on the userbase with the said userbase
complaining about things being broken.
\_ you're a moron. -tom (really)
\_ you're tom. -idiot
\_ Ouch, now THERE'S a harsh insult.
\_ I'm not sure what part you are objecting
to, but RH's pricing structure for EL has
driven lots of people to use Fedora Core
as a production OS. Many times it is hard
to justify the added cost of installing
EL and a customer choses to deploy FC.
You don't really have a choice but to
support FC as a application developer.
It isn't really practical to tell a customer
to install Debian 3.0R3 or something.
\_ yeah but the bug free version is GPL also. you can try to
use CentOS or one of the other RHEL redistributions.
unfortunately they still suck as a consumer OS.
actually <DEAD>scientificlinux.org<DEAD> looks interesting.
\_ They break drivers all the time anyway as far as I could tell.
You're supposed to stick with some old kernel for a long time for
actual consumer use. But why would you need drivers for Linux?
It's not like you can play games or really do anything anyway.
\_ Well, unfortunately since Sun did such a bad job maintaining
market share us EDA folks are being forced into Linux. Now
we have to do do crap like recompile the kernel just so the
stupid display driver works.
\_ Yeah I use that stuff at work. As long as other people are
responsible for making it all work I don't really care.
\_ I compare the adoption of linux by corporate america to the
ubiquity of windows. Some mid-level managers and idiot salespeople
who thought it gave them cache foisted it upon the world where it
went batshit crazy and drove us all insane.
\_ I actually prefer Linux to, say, Solaris or HP-UX. It has
its limitations, but overall it is cheaper, faster, and
easier to maintain in many ways.
\_ ditto. -- SUN guy
\_ No offense, but Solaris is a far better
operating system. Just because for a long
time Solaris didnt ship with perl and you
have to build you own tcpdump doesnt make
it otherwise. If you get involved in the
innards of operating systems, this is pretty
clear. There are some SysV things that
arent ideal, but if you are trying to debug
low-level things, it is pretty clear.
\_ Not to mention that drivers actually work
in Solaris...
\_ Linux has far more working drivers than Solaris.
Solaris just works on the very limited hardware
Sun provides. -tom
\_ I work for SUN and I've been fighting on driver
issue everyday. And I can tell you flat out
that you may think driver works on Solaris, but
Linux is the only way to go. People would
write Linux drivers, but SUN relys on 150 people
in Beijing to crank out those things one by
one. As hard as those Chinese monkey works,
they can never match the speed which hardware
comes up.
\_ You must live in some other universe. I work
for Sun and we have the hardest time getting
drivers to work for even simple stuff like
gigE nics (ex E1000 driver on S10 was a
nightmare for a long time). And you can forget
about AGP in most cases. Some big shots felt
AGP was the shits so no support in Solaris.
There were several cluster deals we couldn't
bid on b/c there was no AGP support in Solaris.
\_ hey, would you mind if I contact you?
-another SUN guy (id 152093)
\_ I think you may be missing the forest for the trees
here. How many people spend their time debugging
``low-level things?'' How many people just want
the system to come with a modern version of perl?
Once you reach a critical threshold level of
stability (which Linux hit some time in 1999 or
so) comparing OS internals dick size becomes
pointless.
\- if you want to say linux is more useful
because i can surf my p0rn and play my mpegs
"better" that's fine. useful to me !=
better os design. it's not a matter of
how many people do this. it's more like
looking to a kernel crash dump tells you
a lot about what is under the hood.
\_ In the REAL world, most people write
applications that run on the OS. I
can almost understand that Sun doesn't
want to ship MySQL or PostgreSQL w/
Solaris, but WHY IN PARTHA'S NAME
did they wait till S9U3 to ship wget
in /usr/sfw and S10 to add gcc? I
shouldn't have to go to some website
to download badly packaged freeware.
Every single Linux distro comes with
this stuff pre-installed. Oh yeah,
instead of chkconfig and isc dhcpd
I get svcadm and sun dhcpd which are
complete CRAP.
Linux has its own problems, but one
HUGE advantage of Linux is that you
can tell your customers to get RHEL
3 ES or SuSE Pro, install it in
server config and then install your
software on top of it. The same RPMS
every time, in the same location,
it makes it easy to test, debug and
support. Unlike Solaris where you
have to ship all your 3d party pkgs
you don't have to worry about keeping
up to date with DBI.pm fixes, PostgreSQL
security patches, wget vulnerabilites
&c. The OS vendor takes care of that
so you can concentrate on your app.
\_ and for your information, MS Windows hit
that threshold by year 2000 with Windows 2000.
Despite you may not think that way.
\_
\_ I don't. Solaris + Native Sun HW is definitely a lot
easier to setup and better integrated than Linux. Solaris
x86 on the other hand makes zero sense. Sun HW also used
\_ let me tell you something. The biggest mistake SUN
ever made was terminate its Solaris x86 program back in
2000. Since then, Linux took off.
-SUN guy who is trying to sell Solaris10
everyday.
to be quality, of course since the U-Sparc 5/10 days
this is no longer true. HP-UX is basically dead, has been
since the late 90s. I just think it's really lame that
in the year 2004 I have to recompile the stupid kernel
to get something like UDMA to work. In some ways, Linux
sucks because it's just a rehash of 30 year old tecnology
on cheap commodity hardware. I mean, shouldn't there be
something better than what's essentially just glorified
UNIX? In all the years with Linux I haven't really seen
anything that really was groundbreaking in terms of
kernel dev. I mean, wtf was Torvaldis smoking when he
decided he was too lazy to implement a modular structure
to the kernel, and why hasn't this been corrected in the
15 odd years that Linux has been around?
\_ What Torvalds was smoking when he decided he was too lazy
to implement a modular structure in the kernel:
http://csua.org/u/ale
You may bitch, but history shows him to be correct.
\_ "correct"... Linux has become more modular over time,
and other OSes haven't sacrificed their modular design
at the altar of Linus. What exactly was he "correct"
about? That linux beat minix? Big whoop.
\_ Hah, exactly my point. It's like saying that
the Chinese had stopped charging families for the
bullet they execute prisoners with. Going from
the Americans had stopped genociding people
for human rights, freedom and democracy. Going from
crap to not so crappy isn't exactly innovation.
\_ the bigger picture is not about technical superiority.
and i was hoping you guys notice that when Windows captured
98% of the OS market while argueably it is the worse
major OS on the market right now.
\_ No, the point was that Windows 98 was backwards
compatible with Windows 95 which was backwards
compatible with Windows 3.11, etc. Now Linux
version 2.6.6 isn't even fucking compatible with
Linnux version 2.6.5. That's progress?
\_ Man, this whole thread could be summarised as: OP is upset that
Linux community doesn't care about 3rd party drivers, and many
CSUAers continue to deride Linux for not being enough like
X \in { BSD, Solaris, DomainOS, ... }. |
| 2005/1/5-6 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:35564 Activity:nil |
1/5 Dumb unix question, I'm recieveing an scp from my friend, is there
any way for me to get an idea of the file transfer speed?
\_ Dumb unix answer: run ls -l on the file repeatedly and guess.
Or were you looking for something cooler?
\_ Heh, yeah I did that. I was hoping for something cooler,
although that did work. :P
\_ du -k is cooler. or writing a little perl script to do this
and print the speed every n seconds. |
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