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2004/11/11 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:34823 Activity:nil 71%like:34789 |
11/8 I am looking for an free external RAID box. Am willing to build it myself, though I have not done that. ESDI seems the way to go. Any pointers? \_ apple xserve \_ He said inexpensive. \_ How many drives do you need? Do you need hardware RAID (yes for anything semi-intensive). If this is just for personal use I'd say get a cheapo x86 Linux box and don't bother with SATA, as it's not much faster than a good IDE drive right now, and it's much easier to find a motherboard that supports 4-8 IDE srives than 4 SATA drives. If this is for business use, disregard this advice. \_ You aren't giving us nearly enough info. How much storage space do you need, for what purpose, what is your budget and what is your skill level? \_ Oh, and also, how will it be connected to the other computer(s)? Will it be simple FireWire or USB2, or do you want a little SAN and in that case do you need NFS, CIFS, or what? -!pp |
2004/11/11 [Uncategorized] UID:34824 Activity:nil |
11/11 Would the idiots running motd merge/restore scripts please at least make sure they are working correctly? |
2004/11/11-12 [Computer/SW/Languages, Computer/SW/Mail] UID:34825 Activity:moderate |
11/11 Simple question I suppose, but this happened to me with an ISP in Japan. Have two email accounts set up. First account has forwarding to the second account. The 2nd account recently set up a vacation reply. So mail arrives in first account, is forwarded to 2nd account, which in turn generates vacation reply, which the first account gets, it forwards that email, another vacation response is generated and received, etc, etc. Pandemonium ensues. The ISP called it a denial-of-service attack and is threatening to cut off service. But this was an honest mistake (2nd account is used by a colleague and he set up vacation response on his client without telling me.) Question: would any other ISP (or Soda) have been able to prevent this, or at least stop it before it brought down their system? \_ a reasonable vacation reply mechanism would implement loop detection headers and/or duplicate message-id checks (as should any other auto-responder). \_ Not to mention keeping track of recipients. Your first ISP should also have some kind of reasonable loop detection. Tell them both that the gaijin tech gods have spoken and that they should get /<l00 or we'll whip out the black ships. -John \- Thanks for the replies. Should these checks have been implemented on server software, client software (maybe there is a setting for "reply once"?), or both? \_ basic rule of computing: never trust clients, never rely on clients to do the right thing. your isps are both stupid. \_ Not even a 'trust' question--this is basic mail server config 101. \_ I was making a more general statement about all client/ server relationships, not just mail. \_ But isn't a vacation responses a separate piece of e-mail similar to when the user does a reply, instead of a re-route of the original? How does loop detection help in this case? \_ It should not be similar; it should have a Precedence: junk header, among other things. And as noted above, the vacation program should keep track of recipients. -tom \_ it should notice its own message sent back to itself and not reply. this would solve OP's problem. you are right that this might not help two vacation systems in a volley, but that is caught by not sending vacation notices to the same recipient within some time period, e.g. a week. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel, Health/Disease/AIDS] UID:34826 Activity:high |
11/11 Arafat was... Gay? http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=350 \_ I think he really died of BEING OLD \_ this is first time you have heard this!? You live under a rock? \_ love how they write Palestinian in quotes. "So-called 'leader' of 'nation' mourned by 'people'." \_ Hearing it from an Israeli source makes it less believable. \_ No, hearing it from something that sounds like the Israeli equivalent of the Arch-freeper makes it less believable. \_ I thought it read more like the New York Post. \_ NYP is Nobel literature compared to this shit. It's more like the pro-muslim/pro-Israeli nutjobs at Sather Gate. \_ Just for the hell of it, I went and read the NYP's article from today on Arafat for comparison, and you're absolutely right. This is far kookier. \_ "medical experts believe the blood-soaked Muslim terror chief is dying from complications related to the AIDS virus." Any paper use this kind of language cannot be trusted. \_ Heh, that's why I posted it. I thought it was funny. |
2004/11/11-12 [Reference/Military] UID:34827 Activity:high |
11/11 link:tinyurl.com/58wlo Sniper in Falluja stopped 150 marines, surviving two 500 pound bombs, 35 155mm shells, 10 shots from Abrams tanks and 30000 rounds of automatic rifle. Reminds me of Full Metal Jacket and Enemies at the Gate. \_ Damn! They missed their chance to kill Kim Jung Il's panther! \_ I think the Marines have more ammo than they have sniper guys. \_ Snipers don't exactly burn through ammo, you know. Anyway, the point is that 1 guy can tie up 150 guys in unfriendly territory \_ Sorry, badly phrased. Related to the "not keeping anything secret from the enemy" thread earlier, the US military approach has always been "drop enormous amount of stuff on it and if it still moves, drop more stuff on it." Doesn't look like they got the guy, but each good sniper whacked is less replaceable than 30,000 rounds of ammo. -John \_ That reminds me of a scene from "Platton", where one young woman \_ That reminds me of a scene from "Platoon", where one young woman hiding in a building with a rifle killed several marines before she was found and killed. \_ You mean Full Metal Jacket. \_ No I've never seen that. \_ ya, I agree w/ pp. I've never seen Platoon, but know theres a scene like that in FMJ. \_ Ok, has anyone SEEN Platoon? \_ Yeah there's one at yermom's house right now. \_ You mean FMJ. \_ all it takes for the terrorist to win is to snipe one marine a day in all major cities. Snipe one, blend into population, repeat the next day. Such is urban warfare. \_ If you won't have sex with me, it will mean that the terrorists have won. \_ I don't think that would produce a 'win' although it will kill some Marines. May as well snipe one citizen a day in Washington, D.C. Oh, that's been done. \_ I was watching documentary the other day, and it says that during the war of 1814, the British commander was killed by a US sniper, which saved the day for the US. \_ The War of 1814? Oooh... \_ I think it's 1812. \_ I think the same thing happened in the Canadian-American War. \_ no, it was a brit. by the time he was shot and killed he already led his british army to burn US capital down. madison, who was kind of a nerd, was forced to run away. \_ Chicom troll has taken history lesson! \_ I thought bad brits only burned china capital down. didn't know they burnt US capital down too. hahaha! US made Britain its maid today while dxp kicked brits out of HK and made Iron Lady cry "He's so cold hearted!" Is that good revenge? - chicom toad \_ Are you Hong-Kongese? Do you understand the effect ...... oh never mind. |
2004/11/11-12 [Computer/HW/Display, Consumer/TV] UID:34828 Activity:nil |
11/11 I'm looking for a video card with a tv-out plug to display to a regular television in addition to a monitor. I don't need any other fancy video card features and I would like something reliable and not too expensive. Google and various review stuff seem to focus on high-end video cards and other features. Can anyone suggest a simple, reliable video card w/ tv-out? Thanks. \_ I have a Geforce 4600, works a charm. I think you can get them for a pretty reasonable price. If you're looking for a whole system to serve signal to a TV, have a look at <DEAD>www.mini-itx.com;<DEAD> they have really inexpensive ready-built small, quiet systems with good quality gfx cards for this sort of thing. Don't forget that if you're converting to SCART, you don't get sound on your TV. -John |
2004/11/11-12 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:34829 Activity:high |
11/11 Okay, my bro was from UW-Madison, and he's bringing his family to visit our uncle in LA end of the year. We are thinking of going to see Cal vs Badger in the Rosebowl since this would probably be once in a lifetime. Anyone has any experience as to how best to get tickets and how much they would cost? \_ End zone tickets are selling for $250/each on EBay right now. I doubt they are going to get any cheaper. If you want good seats, expect to pay up to $750 each. \_ I am a little worried about fraud. Is there a reputable source for getting tickets? \_ <DEAD>rickstickets.com<DEAD> has worked for me. rick is a cool guy. \_ Hope you two still get along afterwards. \_ Easy tiger, we've still got 3 games left. A lot can happen. \_ Not to mention getting picked for a bowl that isn't the Rose is a slim possibility even if we win out. How are people able to buy tickets for games that aren't decided yet? Does it mean they get stuck with Purdue-Texas (e.g.) in the Rose if that's how it turns out? \_ I'm sure someone will buy them off you later \_ Maybe not for what you paid for them. \_ I don't see Cal or Wisconsin losing more than 1 of their conference games left. Maybe USC will lose a game and bump Cal out of the Rosebowl, or Wisconsin may have some chance to play in the National Championship game if both Auburn and Oklahoma lose one of their remaining games. But you are right, I do plan to wait for things to clear up, but no harm asking about it now. - op \_ Limited tickets available to general public on 12/7 @ 8am. Call Ticketmaster (info @ http://tournamentofroses.com) |
2004/11/11-12 [Computer/SW/Compilers] UID:34830 Activity:nil |
11/11 On a *nix machine with both cc and gcc, is there a generic way to find out which include directories they use? (I think cc uses .h files in /usr/include and gcc uses those somewhere else.) Thanks. |
2004/11/11-12 [Industry/Startup] UID:34831 Activity:nil |
11/11 I posted several days ago about Soda dropping me about an hour of inactivity while using TTSSH. I found that PuTTY actually has "sending null packet to keep session alive" option builtin. This option works for me. BTW, John's original suggestion of 'spinner' didn't quite work. It keeps randomly dieing due to "unable to open TTY for writing." \_ Weird, I've never gotten that. Spinner is a bit of a PITA as it doesn't get along with most scrollbars. If I can, I usually do the X forwarding/xclock thing, it leaves your tty alone. -John |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:34832 Activity:nil |
11/11 Japan today. The questions and answers are pretty boring, but the pictures are awesome. http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=popvox&id=528 \_ I don't get it, which part about the pic makes it 'awesome'? \_ Sorry, I think Japanese nuts are funny. \_ Well, I think your Japanese schoolgirl fetish is funny, so I guess it's a good day for humor. |
2004/11/11-12 [Science/Disaster] UID:34833 Activity:nil |
11/11 How come people in big crowded cities in Japan don't live in high-rise buildings like those in Hong Kong? First I thought it's because of earthquakes, but then they already know how to build high-rise hotels and office buildings in those cities. \_ 1) Earthquakes. Sure, Japanese engineers can build some amazingly earthquake-resistant buildings, but those kinds of buildings are terribly expensive to build, so why use them for housing when you can charge an arm and a leg for them as hotels? 2) There's actually more room in Japan per capita than there is in Hong Kong. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Health/Women] UID:34834 Activity:high |
11/11 Pharmacists in Red States refuse to give out contraceptive pills because of religion and/or personal belief: http://tinyurl.com/4tamp \_ Sounds like quite the opportunity for competition to thrive. \_ Man, just wait until you get a Jehova's Witness in charge of a hospital! \_ how about a Christian Science Emergency Room? HAHAHA \_ don't insult Christian Science, they really work. Here is a proof-- they can make infertile women have babies again: http://tinyurl.com/5wfnf \_ That's unbelievable. Your personal views have absolutely no place in your professional practice. I can't believe that people like that still exist in this country. \_ apparently 53% of the Americans don't agree with you. \_ Are you pro-choice or pro-life? \_ I am pro-choice, but that's irrelevant. A customer should be free to have ANY prescription filled, no matter what it is. It's not the pharmacist's job to decide if it's appropriate, it's the doctor's. \_ Is it irrelevant? Assisted suicide is legal in Oregon. Would you be as unsympathetic to a health worker or pharmacist in Oregon who refuses to participate in an assisted suicide case? \_ Congratulations, you just compared birth control pills to suicide! Stay tuned for the moral equation of gay marriage with slavery and the halocaust! \_ Yep. I assume the pharmacist in the original story believes that birth control == murder. Just as some Oregon health care provider might belive assisted suicide == murder. Legality has very little to do with morality, which is why I asked if the poster was pro-choice or pro-life. We are all relatively comfortable with birth control being morally neutral, and that allows the prof. practice poster to take such a strong stand. I would guess that we can mostly accept that it would be more legitimate to find assisted suicide not morally neutral, which is why I asked the poster if he would still be as comfortable with his uncompromising stance. If he is just as uncompromising, great, though one might mention that following orders is not a sufficient excuse in many situations. If he is more flexible with refusing to help with legal assisted suicide, then that raises the pro-life/pro-choice question, since the original pharmacist presumably believe that birth control == murder. In any case, it's easy to condemn someone, but it's probably not terribly production. It's much more useful to try to understand someone's behavior. \_ Birth control pills are not, contrary to common belief, aborticants (i think that's the word). They act by preventing ovulation. No egg ever gets fertalized. \_ Contrary to common belief? Jesus fucking christ, are people really that ignorant? \_ What do you think...? -John \_ ja sind sie \_ Every time something is done to prevent our Christian hordes from filling every nook and cranny of the planet a crime is committed. And every sperm is sacred. \_ I really don't think that that's common belief. \_ "abortifacients". \_ I don't quite get this, I thought anti-birth control was a Catholic thing, not a prodestant thing. \_ the supposedly better educated Northern Blue State Elitists' ability to spell amazes and embarrases me -liberal \_ We're better at it, at least. I hope. |
2004/11/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34835 Activity:nil |
11/11 NOW THEY GOT ADZ WHICH MOVE AROUND UR SKREEN SO U GOT A HARDUR TIME CLOS1NG THE ADS, \_ Philbiff! \_ "now" implies they didn't before. Use Mozilla/FF and disallow scripts to move windows. |
2004/11/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34836 Activity:nil |
11/11 "Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE" Hilarious. http://csua.org/u/9wy \_ firewhat?.. Clint Eastwood movie? \_ why is this funny? History has proven over and over again that M$ copies its competitors, then takes over the market either via improvements, or via superior marketting, or via its superior clout. \_ Did you read the article? The article is funny, the headline isn't. \_ It's via breaking the antitrust law. \_ And copywright laws. \_ and getting away with it. \_ and thennn? \_ step 3, PROFIT!!! |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:34837 Activity:high 71%like:34865 |
11/11 Author of Rape of Nanking committed suicide: http://tinyurl.com/5cs2b \_ From the article: "Many soldiers went beyond rape to disembowel women, slice off their breasts, nail them alive to walls. Fathers were forced to rape their daughters and sons their mothers as other family members watched." \_ Where does that info come from I wonder? \_ The article said she interviewed survivors in China. \_ Considering the well-documented atrocities committed by the biological warefare Unit 731, these things are all very plausible. \_ So here's what I don't undestand. How did Japan go from this level of barbarism to being some of the most peaceful people in the world in one generation? \_ America. \_ Perception of external threats from western imperialist nations leading to desire to have its own colonial empire leading to invasion of korea, manchuria. Ideology of superiority of Japanese and society turning militaristic leading to despise and dehumanization of other asian people. Whether Japan is peaceful or not is still to be seen. It can only be judged when the nation is under duress. US did have a positive influence on Japan since WWII. \_ Is Japan denying what Unit 731 did too? \_ I just searched for Unit 731 on google, and boy, I got pretty angry. I guess what the US did to the Iraqi prisoners seems like Child's play in comparison. Now tell me, is Japan denying Unit 731? \_ the right wingers certainly are denying it, or the very least, not wanting to teach it in school or discouraging people to write about it. \_ It's pretty horrid. Look for the William Kristol interview with a veteran of that unit. The guy's statements are stomach-turning. -John \_ There were also interviews of Japanese soldiers who witnessed or participated in the Rape of Nanking. Some felt a lot of guilt, while others tried to explain it. \_ And how have they ruled out some pissed off Japanese right wing nut killed her? \_ why do you hate right wing Japanese people? \_ It's that whole SoCal supermarket--samurai sword thing. Read up on Yukio Mishima, you may be amused. -John \_ The US govt is not interested in embarrassing its Japanese ally with whatever war crimes it committed in China. I don't think it has ever been interested. \_ Are you chinese? Do you understand the effects opium trade had on china? \_ Well, "authorities" said it was suicide. What "authorities"? Local cops, I assume. How difficult is it for leet Japanese ninja types to fake a suicide that will fool the local constabulary? \_ An alternative theory is that the research on the Bataan Death March which the http://sfgate.com article said she was doing in Kentucky days before she was foudn dead traumatized her enough to commit suicide. Like maybe she opened up old wounds of some 80-year-old WWII vet and felt guilty about it... \_ What's he gonna do, beat her to death with a walker? \_ you're a craven asshole. \_ Not really, I thought pp was making nonsense hypotheses. Wasn't meant like that. \_ I agree, but then it's well known the motd is full of psycopath. \_ And FOB idiots. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:34838 Activity:high |
11/11 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/10/01247/557 Excellent discussion of the reality of Bin Laden and where we're headed. \_ Thank you. I go to dailykos for all my unbiased political analysis. \_ What does "dailykos" mean, any how? Daily Kooks on S***? \_ I never read the site; got the link off a KDE developer's blog. It doesn't seem biased actually... more about the futility of waging a public opinion war with guns and bombs. -op \_ dailykos doesn't seem biased? WOW! \_ The guy who started it is nicknamed "kos," pronounced with a long "o." Hence "dailykos." It is a left-wing echo chamber, similar to Freerepublic but just a hair less loony and obviously on the other side of the political spectrum. Occasionally they have some good top level links. \_ dailykos has some good stuff sometimes. most of the freerepublic people have net personas of dangerous psychopaths. \_ Do you lean conservative or liberal? \_ lib. i read and have read the free republic urls, a lot of them have "let's go shoot some libs!" tangents. dailykos does not. \_ What?!? The right is NEVER violent!! \_ Kos himself is not looney at all, in fact he is pretty much a mainstream Democrat. He is about as "looney" as say, John Kerry. Some of his posters are nuts though. \_ The posters are mostly what I was referring to. I like kos, but his site has been almost completely taken over by the fruit loops. He doesn't even write most of the entries any more. \_ Read "Guerilla Warfare" by Che Guavara. He describes fighting a superior force using exactly those tactics. |
2004/11/11-12 [Reference/Military] UID:34839 Activity:moderate |
11/11 As far as I know, a sniper's bullet is bigger than 1 cm, so it should be visible with, say, 40 GHz radar. So it should be possible to have a radar scanner that tracks the bullet back and tells the exact location of the sniper, at least in theory. This doesn't sound all that hard to me. Why the hell don't we have such technology deployed in Iraq? is there a technical problem I'm missing here? \_ An interesting discussion about this: http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/archive/index.php/t-196.html \_ Sniper/Bullet Track radar has been around for awhile. I'd guess it's not deployed in Fallujah for several reasons, but mainly the sensitivity/complexity of the equipment isn't very compatible with the conditions of a mobile assualt (too time consuming to set up, to much likelihood of rough handling). Also, the urban environment is pretty claustrophobic and my not be conducive to effective radar system deployment. \_ Odd. I'd assume that it is precisely in urban areas where snipers are the most dangerous. It's probably relatively easy to hunt down a sniper in a wide open space. \_ Easy? That really depends on teh terrain. There are many accounts of snipers doing terrible damage in open terrian where there's no cover, etc. Note: USEFUL != USABLE. \_ I saw something similar on Tactical to Practical on the History Channel two years ago. They already have a working implementation that uses the high speed camera to capture bullet traces, in real time. Why it's not deployed in Iraq, my guess is probably due to mass production/ copy-right/law issues than the technical reason. \_ There are a number of systems, at least one of which uses multiple units to triangulate the shot's origin. The problem with every single one of these is that they're (a) unwieldy, (b) fragile, and (c) require you to be looking at least in the general direction of where the bullet is coming from--not always practical in a combat situation. -John \_ tell us about zhe Elite Churman Sniperscutze, John \_ Difficult, yermom's playing with it. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:34840 Activity:high |
11/11 What are the conservative and liberal stands/views on immigration? \_ If you live in California within the past 10 years you should know. If you are a newcomer then basically do a search for prop 187 on google. It's the reason why we're a democratic state instead of being centrist conservatists like we were in the past. \_ prop 187 sounds like a 'conservative' proposition \_ Yeah. Conservatives voted for it and liberal judges overturned it. \_ liberals tend to be in support of policies favorable to immigration. conservatives tend to be against. unless you're george bush trying to do anything to get re-elected and thus attempting to appeal to the immigrant vote. \_ Actually, the answer is much more complex than this. Liberals don't support policies favorable to immigration unilaterally. The Union faction of the left is steadfastly against immigration, especially the H1B type. Conservatives, especially those in the central valley and up north where the vinyards are in Ca tend to favor lax immigration enforcement until they need it to drive the workers off after planting season. Conservatives also like H1B visas. At the same time, I'm pretty sure right wing nuts will want to kick out the H1B visas after they've slave labored them long enough, and organized labor wants to organize them after they get into the country so they can have another union. \_ I am curious as to what your classic liberals "let 'em in, give 'em driver's licenses" and your classic conservatives "build a fence, shoot on sight" think about the fact that without tons of illegal immigrants, CA's agricultural and hospitality industries would collapse. -ohn hospitality industries would collapse. -John \_ You have absolutely zero, (0, nada, nothing) proof that either will collapse if all the latino illigal immigrants were to be deported. There are probably enough legal latino immigrants and actual latino americans born here to easily fill those posts. \_ This is so racist. I guess it's ok to stereotype all Latino's as only capable of holding a low-level job. \_ This is the 'A day without a Mexican' view. I am sort of of two minds about illegal immigration. On the one hand, I favor much looser standards for letting people in, on the other hand, I really dislike illegal immigration on principle. An economy is an organic thing. Had there been far fewer mexicans coming illegally, the CA economy would have developed in a different way, so it's a little misleading to give hypothethical situations where all mexicans suddenly disappear. -- ilyas \_ I basically agree with ilyas. I think we ought to put the cap on illegal immigration, but we also need to rework the INS so the people we want in can get in easily. It's is currently very hard to be legal, and very easy to be illegal. \_ "very easy to be illegal..." I urge you to discuss this with someone who has chosen to come here as an illegal. "Easy" is not how I would describe their lives. \_ Then their lives were difficult for other reasons. I've known plenty of illegal immigrants who were illigal simply because the system is so fucking broken that there was no other way to immigrate. I knew one guy who finished his masters degree with a fake social security number(while working his ass off as a cook), *then* got a real ssn, called the school and social engineered them into switching his ssn to the real one, took the citizenship test, and is now gainfully employed as a citizen. He is in pretty much every way a model immigrant, yet he was illegal for something like 10 years because that's just how fucked the system is. Going to grad school while working full time as a cook is hard. Being "illegal" is not, if you speak fluent English and are not a fucking idiot. \_ what are the liberals view on illegal immigration and services? |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:34841 Activity:low |
11/11 http://tinyurl.com/5sude hahaha, insurgents are getting desperate as we tighten the noose around Fallja. \_ Your post is eerily similar to Bush calling the whole insurgency the "last desperate gasps of resistance" last year. \_ As much as it would be good for us to 'win the peace' in Iraq, I know that won't happen. So I wish we could just hurry up and lose as fast as possible to minimize our casualties. |
2004/11/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:34842 Activity:nil |
11/11 what does "ping" mean in the context of a free republic page? - danh \_ I think it's some sort of popularity ranking thing. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:34843 Activity:low |
11/11 Things falling apart in Holland. http://www.slate.com/id/2109523 \_ Motd poster uses misleading headline. <DEAD>127.0.0.1<DEAD> \_ cf Yeats, The Second Coming \_ things falling apart in the world after Iraq, what's your point \_ Well, the article claims that the prime suspect Mohammed Bouyeri became radical post 9/11, and the murder of Theo van Gogh was the trigger point of the violence, but I'm sure we can squeeze Iraq in there somehow. \_ There was no intention in winning points in some kind of my side/your side motd battle with the post. I would hope that all of us, no matter which side we belong to in the great motd war, can view with sadness the murder of van Gogh, the violence that followed, and the worsening attitude in Holland. -op \_ Hey, can we blame Ayatollah Khomeini issuing a death sentence on Salman Rushdie on the Iraq invasion too? \_ Ought to check out the film, guys. Lots of body. \_ At least van Gogh wasn't buried alive too. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34844 Activity:nil |
11/11 http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/11/bush.cabinet/index.html Pro-life wing nuts all pissy at Bush because of Gonzales, who is pro-choice. That's for electing Bush you dumb fuck right wing Christians!!! \_ thank you for the rant, left winger \_ Bush is actually pretty centrist. He may be trying to reign in the far right parts of his administration. \_ OMG you made a funny! \_ Supreme Court nominee will be liked by the more conservative in the party. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:34845 Activity:nil |
11/11 Good 'ol FAIR AND BALANCED Fox News, coming to your cell phone soon: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/11/10/fox.mobile.ap/index.html |
2004/11/11 [Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:34846 Activity:nil |
11/11 Iris Chang commits suicide. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/11/MNGB59PKL01.DTL |
2004/11/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:34847 Activity:very high 61%like:34850 |
11/11 Here's one for the Arafat trolls to chew on for a while: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/11/11/arafat_the_monster \_ Hell NO! We won't think! \_ You are right. It was so much easier when the Palestinians peacefully accepted their ethnic cleansing. I hate that bastard for daring to fight back. \_ Wow. Revisionist history makes yet another appearance on the motd. \_ What's revisionist about it? \_ Um, 'ethnic cleansing'? \_ What's to chew on? Palestinians have used terrorism. Is this news? Shall we chew on that while ignoring Israeli occupation? How does that make sense? \_ wait a minute, so suicide bombing is evil, but killing civilans blindly using American donated Apache gunship, missiles, and tanks is perfectly ok? -peacenik \_ I think there's a substantial difference between thugs that TARGET civillians with carbombs and suicide bombers and beheadings as a tactic to control the people vs trying to kill the people that are doing this TO THEIR OWN COUNTRYMEN (mostly, anyhow). The US is doing everything it can to minimize civillian deaths, but the remorseless insurgents must be eliminated. I suspect that if the US just ... left ... that the people stepping forward to fill the vacuum would create a legacy hideous beyond describing. It's rather sad that someone getting a Berkeley education would need this explained to them. If you think the use of these weapons is blind, then honestly, you're saying you can't tell the difference between random violence against innocents and violence targeted against inherently violent people that have no respect for life. \_ in war, there's no such a thing as good civilians vs. evil militants. The militants are the civilians, and at times the civilians are the militants. The civilians give birth for new militants, and they feed and shelter each other, period. And by the way there's no such a thing as Berkeley educated people having homogeneous opinions, and in fact, not everyone on motd is educated let along having a Berkeley degree. The idea that the world is so black and white, is so Bush. \_ It's not entirely binary, but there really are normal civilians and thugs. Civilians mostly just want to be left alone. Thugs terrorize them into giving them shelter, etc. You = m0r0n (the dangerous moral relativist kind) \_ Come on, don't be so harsh. Where would this world be without Lenin's "useful idiots?" |
2004/11/11-12 [Reference/Religion] UID:34848 Activity:very high |
11/11 I just watched Theo Van Gogh's controversial 11 min film. I'm not a very religious guy, so here is what I have to say. It was as good as watching The Passion of the Christ. In another word, I was not impressed. The upside is that I didn't spend a dime on it (got it from bittorrent) and only wasted 11 min of my life, vs. 3 hours of The Passion crap. \_ So what's wrong with Passion of the Christ? I thought it was pretty good. I'm an atheist but I do know a bit about religion. Perhaps you didn't understand the context? I obviously know that Passion of the Christ is propoganda, but it's very good propoganda like Leni Refinstahl. It is also by no means historical although it makes pretenses to be such. However, on a cinematic level it was certainly interesting and picture is quite beautiful to look at. If you didn't like it due to the religious/political controversy around it then say so. \_ I don't disagree with the religion and I loved the setting and language and props. However, 1/2 of the movie was about the bloody whipping, which wasn't that graphic in the bible. It was unnecessary and very insulting. You don't need violence to scare people into believing Christianity. -christian \_ So I read all about the scourging and the crowning with thorns and then the cross veshch and all that cal, and I viddied better that there was something in it. While the stero played bits of lovely Bach I closed my Glazzies and viddied myself helping in and even taking charge of the tolchocking and nailing in, being dressed in a like toga that was the heighth of Roman fashion. So being in Staja 84F was not all that wasted, and the Governor himself was very pleased to hear that I had taken to like Religion, and that was where I had my hopes. \_ You are an idiot. Gibson is not an evangelical monkey in your pocket. He isn't trying to recruit people into Catholicism, he is paying a very personal tribute to Christ, which happened to have done very well at the box office. If you think violence on Christ is insulting, you should maybe think a little more about that whole 'sacrificial lamb' thing. \_ Roger Ebert called the movie "The most violent I've ever seen" (he gave it 4 stars though). Why would I want to sit through 2 hours of someone getting beat to a pulp? \_ So don't. But don't get all highminded about how the violence is 'insulting' or 'unnecessary.' \_ It "wasn't that graphic in the bible?" It was pretty much exactly that graphic. It just that during biblical times everyone knew what it meant to be crucified by the romans, so they didn't need to describe it in detail. Gibson was trying to give some context to the modern viewer. \_ I'm trying to watch it on ifilm and it keeps dying halfway through. Does anybody have it in another format? \_ I was able to watch it at 56k. \_ you know if the film was more educating or entertaining I'd feel sad for his murder. I don't. \_ Is the woman telling her own story, or just fiction? \_ I see, so since his little movie wasn't impressive it's ok to murder him? If this guy just died in an accident or something I don't think anyone would give a shit. What's sad is religious fundamentalism. \_ The cleavage is good. So is the curve of the one wearing a white bra. |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34849 Activity:nil |
11/11 ""Midwesterners don't really relate to Democrats," Carol Kolb, editor-in-chief of satirical newspaper The Onion and a Wisconsin native, told http://FOXNews.com. "Especially Kerry, he was much more intellectual than Bush, and that's not what someone in Middle America relates to." http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138347,00.html |
2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34850 Activity:very high 61%like:34847 |
11/11 Here's one for the Arafat trolls to chew on for a while: http://tinyurl.com/4sljz (boston.com) \_ Hell NO! We won't think! \_ You are right. It was so much easier when the Palestinians peacefully accepted their ethnic cleansing. I hate that bastard for daring to fight back. \_ Wow. Revisionist history makes yet another appearance on the motd. \_ What's revisionist about it? \_ Um, 'ethnic cleansing'? \_ The Palestinians just all left their own homes and farms on their own accord? Right-o. \_ What's to chew on? Palestinians have used terrorism. Is this news? Shall we chew on that while ignoring Israeli occupation? How does that make sense? \_ wait a minute, so suicide bombing is evil, but killing civilans blindly using American donated Apache gunship, missiles, and tanks is perfectly ok? -peacenik \_ I think there's a substantial difference between thugs that TARGET civillians with carbombs and suicide bombers and beheadings as a tactic to control the people vs trying to kill the people that are doing this TO THEIR OWN COUNTRYMEN (mostly, anyhow). The US is doing everything it can to minimize civillian deaths, but the remorseless insurgents must be eliminated. I suspect that if the US just ... left ... that the people stepping forward to fill the vacuum would create a legacy hideous beyond describing. It's rather sad that someone getting a Berkeley education would need this explained to them. If you think the use of these weapons is blind, then honestly, you're saying you can't tell the difference between random violence against innocents and violence targeted against inherently violent people that have no respect for life. \_ in war, there's no such a thing as good civilians vs. evil militants. The militants are the civilians, and at times the civilians are the militants. The civilians give birth for new militants, and they feed and shelter each other, period. And by the way there's no such a thing as Berkeley educated people having homogeneous opinions, and in fact, not everyone on motd is educated let along having a Berkeley degree. The idea that the world is so black and white, is so Bush. \_ Holy shit, you've missed the point so completely it makes my teeth ache! The point is a matter of intent b/t the US military vs the intent of the terrorists. Likening them is dumb. Jesus H Christ, are you even posting in the correct thread? I'm honestly baffled. \_ It's not entirely binary, but there really are normal civilians and thugs. Civilians mostly just want to be left alone. Thugs terrorize them into giving them shelter, etc. You = m0r0n (the dangerous moral relativist kind) \_ Come on, don't be so harsh. Where would this world be without Lenin's "useful idiots?" |
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