Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2004:November:01 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:34491 Activity:kinda low
10/31   I've got a file full of names of mp3 files that I want to delete.
        Problem is that many are contain ', (, ), and other unlikeable
        characters that make it hard to feed to a bash for loop or a
        perl script.  Is there any (perl?) function to autoescape that
        sort of thing?  tia.
        \_ Why not run the file through sed?
        \_ perl -lne unlink filename.txt  --dbushong
2004/11/1 [ERROR, uid:34492, category id '18005#16.2225' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34492 Activity:high
11/01   It turns out that is being run by Andrew
        Tanenbaum. Yes, that very Andrew Tanenbaum. Who could have possibly
        thought it was him?
        \_ Jesus fucking christ.  I kept telling myself that this guy didn't
           understand anything about statistics because he's just some
           poly sci guy who's trying to figure it out on his own.  As a
           fellow physics major, I'm embarrased on his behalf now.
           \_ Partisan much?  He say something that doesn't toe your party
              line so he's a moron?  Uh huh.  Grow up.
           \_ Context clue for those of us who have none?
                \_ Tanenbaum's the Linux-vs-monolithic kernel anno 1991
                   flamefest guy, right?  -John
                   \_ yes, that guy.
           \_ Sheesh. Give him a break. This is, bar none, the most informative
              poll summary site out there, and it's free.
        \_ so... what is his political slant?
           \_ see the URL above
           \_ He thinks the BBC and the Guardian are neutral, fair, unbiased,
              and don't have an axe to grind.
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic] UID:34493 Activity:moderate
11/1    I just saw Passion of the Christ last night.  I'm not Christian and
        I don't know much about it.   Who are the guys in black carrying
        staffs and trying to get the roman governor to crucify him?  Why
        was Jesus called a galean (sp?)?  And what is with that fat guy
        King Herod who had jurisdiction over galeans?  He seems to share
        power with the Roman governor, which is weird.  If the elderly guys
        in the black are Jews I can see why Jews would see the movie as
        anti-semitic.  The movie portrayed the romans as being forced into
        killing Jesus.  Otherwise there would be an uprising.  Ok, thanks.
        \_ Galilee is a place.  Jesus was from around there.  I haven't seen
           the movie, but the main group wanting Jesus killed were the
           powerful Jewish priests.  The Romans didn't care too much about
           a Jewish religious struggle, but they *did* care about order, and
           some young radical threatening the establishment was no good.  FWIW
           I don't believe Pontius Pilate 'had it in' for Jesus, but the
           historical record shows he was a pretty brutal dictator.
           -lapsed Episcopalian
           \_ Pilate had no problems killing people ruthlessly.  However he was
              in a tough position.  A riot that he squelched caused the Roman
              emperor to basically say "one more of these and you're toast".
              If he crucified Jesus and Jesus' followers rioted he was screwed.
              If he didn't, there might be a riot from the people who wanted
              Jesus dead.  You can see how he'd want to avoid blame.
           \_ Jesus never existed as described. There were many "Jesuses" and
              stuff going on. The Jesus stuff really got going hundreds of
              years after the supposed events. It's stupid to state "facts"
              about Jesus because it's based on the gospels which are mostly
              invented or derived from other events and religions.
        \_ think about it.  There were seperatists to an imperial controller.
           Iesus preaches "no, do not hate, be peaceful."  MLK said the same
           thing and gets accused to corroboration with the Man.  Watch Life
           of Brian, it will get you a better perspective.  The Middle East
           has been fucked forever; it really needs a tac nuke.
           \_ ...tactical?
              \_  I think he meant strategic.
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34494 Activity:nil
11/1    rory, I don't care about the election. Just post pictures of hot
        conservative chicks and a video of you infiltrating into their right
        wing conservative ultra Christian organization. And post a
        3-some video of you and the 2 other dumb but hot religious
        right wing chicks who think that you're also voting for the
        Christian values. -don't care about the election, BushCo will
                           just pull out another dirty trick like 2000
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:34495 Activity:high
11/01   Gotta love prop 71.  Here in CA the crooks don't have to buy the
        politicians, they can just put themselves on the ballot.
        \_ Which one is that again?
           \_ $3B bond for stem cell research.  No oversight.  Brown Act
              exemption.  etc. etc.
              \_ What's the Brown Act and why do they want an exemption?
                 \_ The Brown Act requires public policy meetings to be held in
                    a public forum and an agenda to be posted in advance.  71
                    also exempts the board which makes monetary decisions from
                    the public records act.  If this passes, I may have to go
                    into biomed.  Whoever gets this money will be set to life.
                    into biomed.  Whoever gets this money will be set for life.
                        \_ Thanks for the info, I was already going to vote
                           no for other reasons, but makes it NO.
        \_ My answer to any propositions that I didn't already know about and
           actively agree with is a "no" vote by default.  I fully understand
           the meaning and implications (and holes) of maybe 1 or 2 per
           election cycle which get a "yes".  There are just too many which are
           just too vague or have too much background info we don't see to
           vote "yes" on them.
                \_ Don't do that. Many policy-makers know most people vote
                   like this, so they phrase the proposition so that a "no"
                   vote actually implements their proposed changes.
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/California, ERROR, uid:34496, category id '18005#2.46875' has no name! , ] UID:34496 Activity:nil
11/01   I predict that this will actually have an effect on the election, if
        the hoodie generation have already registered:
        WMV or RealPlayer:
        (Yes, sound, yes, profanity, yes, video; hoodie optional.)
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34497 Activity:low
11/01   I can think of 2 reasons why a traditional Bush voter might want to
        vote for Kerry this time around:
        1) Bush might be able to push 4 rightwing justices into the Supreme
        Court and upset the balance, while Kerry can't push 4 leftwing
        justices into the Supreme Court because the Senate is run by
        2) Kerry will actually veto spending bills!
        \_ You have to think of reasons?  Why don't you just ask one of your
           traditional Bush voter friends over lunch or something like that?
        \_ I can think of X reasons why a traditional Republican might
           not vote for Kerry no matter the reason.
           1) religion
           2) abortion
           3) gay
           4) minorities, min wage
           5) they're Amish
           Come on. The election was never about anything but the above
           items that some people hold dearly as the one true core
           value in the world. People who value the above dearly, don't
           give a damn about Iraq or deficit or whatnot.
           \_ I was talking about the sector of Bush supporters who are
              more concerned about issues as opposed to "keeping the Queers
              in line"
              more concerned about issues as opposed to the "keeping the
              Queers in line" group, who will always be immune to reason.
2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34498 Activity:nil
11/1    Is there a way to tell firefox to always display the location bar,
        even in popups?
        \_ Disable pop-ups.
2004/11/1 [Consumer/CellPhone] UID:34499 Activity:high 61%like:34459
11/1    10/30   Why is my t-mobile reception so bad?  Could it be the phone or
        is t-mobile just worthless around here?
        \_ T-mobile has the smallest network of the majors.
           \_ Kind of depends where `here' is.  T-mobile doesn't have any
              towers in Northern California; they rent tower time from
              Cingular.  In case it's not clear, there is, effectively, only
              one GSM carrier in northern California.
        \_ My AT&T reception has been going to hell as of lately too.
           \_ As of a few months ago Cingular users can use ATT towers and vice
              versa.  It's possible your area had lots on Cingular users and
              not that many Cingular towers.
              \- man why cant they make cell phones that have good signal ...
                 i dont care whether it can play tetris or surf the
                 WEEB or manage my stock portfolio. has anybody made a
                 phone that has signal strength as its only distinguishing
                 feature? now that i'd pay for.
                 \_ verizon.  great signal, but aside from that, phones suck.
                    \- i meant a phone unit, not a service. surely something
                       can be done with antenna/amplification.
                       \_ Phones already have amplifiers, but amplifiers are
                          'dumb' and amplify both signal and noise.  The SNR
                          is what really matters for a phone.  To improve the
                          SNR you can add a phased antenna array, which will
                          massivly increase weight, power consumption and
                          cost, or you can use a high-gain antenna, which is
                          by necessity directional.  A high-gain antenna would
                          be big, which is bad for a phone, and would depend
                          strongly on orientation, which is very bad for a
                          phone being moved around.  The best compromise would
                          be a long straight antenna, which is not as big as a
                          dish, and has the only directional requirement that
                          it is upright.  Most phones use antennas which are
                          about (8/7)*(1/2) wavelength long so they get optimum
                          performance when slightly off perfect vertical.
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:34500 Activity:high
11/1    OK, this was on Fark, but it seemed interesting enough that the motd
        would appreciate it:  If someone votes early (by absentee or whatever)
        and then dies before election day, should their vote count?
        (No 'the dead already vote' trolls, please)
        \_ It seems that it should.  The act of voting becomes valid at the time
           of voting, not at the time the results are tallied or the time the
           polls close. -- ilyas
           polls close.  If someone has a heart attack on the way from the
           polls, it's the same thing.  To use a less controversial example --
           if someone signs his will, and then dies minutes later, the will
           is still valid. -- ilyas
           \_ I sort of agree, but another way to look at it is that the
              election only happens on one day, and early voting methods are
              just a courtesy, and your actual vote only happens on election
              day, so the dead have not really voted, just mailed in an intent
              for their vote to happen.
              It seems 'fairness' in this would usually be overshadowed by
              partisanship, as in "Who would the recently deceased likely vote
              \_ Your statement "the election only happens on one day" is
                 fundamentally flawed. You might want to start from there.
                 In most voting systems I of which I am aware, the vote is
                 cast in time once it is sealed or placed in a ballot box.
                 Once your dead person sealed their absentee ballot, it was
                 cast. :wq

                 \_ Except the law doesn't match what you just said in many
                    places.  Sorry.
        \_ Only if they voted for Kerry.
           \_ You just proved my point -above poster
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election, ERROR, uid:34501, category id '18005#13.2525' has no name! , ] UID:34501 Activity:moderate
11/1    I know this is old, but I just found it.  Pat Buchanan interviewing
        Ralph Nader on why conservatives should vote for him (Nader.) I
        don't support either Nader or Buchanan, but I thought this was
        a really interesting read.
        \_ Maybe you want to post the much more recent Pat Buchanan articles
           on him saying conservatives should vote Bush?
           \_ You didn't read the link, did you? Buchanan never endorses
              Nader, he just asks him some questions.  I think the answers are
              interesting, and I think that the fact that Nader is attempting
              to appeal to conservative voters is interesting.  If you post
              a link to the more recent Bush endoresement, I'll also read that.
              \_ It won't be a NYT URL.  Would you still read it?
                 \_  I'm the one who posted a link to American Conservative
                     Magazine, remember?  Damn, you're dumb.  Just post the
                     fucking link, and I and probably quite a few other people
                     will read it.
2004/11/1 [Recreation/Humor] UID:34502 Activity:nil
        \_ That was funny, someone had to do it I guess.
         \_ you laugh now. It's not too far from the truth.
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34503 Activity:very high
11/1    Wow, one more day til Election. By Wed we'll know who's the next
        president, how exciting!
        \_ According to the highly-accurate slashdot poll, Kerry will win by
           about a 5:2 margin
           \_ I am going to be really pissed if Bush wins again.
              \_ Don't you mean...for the FIRST TIME?!?!?!? HA HA HA HA HA
                 *cough* *hack* *wheeze*
        \_ What is the CSUA motd opinion on some of the CA measures?
           \_ if a h07 42n ch1x supports it, so do I!
              \_ hot asian chicks don't vote. hence
                 \_ Oh I want to have sex with a hot asian chick!!
        \- by Wed there will be riots. If Bush wins ppl will get mad and send
           out lawyers. If Kerry wins the Fox news network will distort more
           views and Bush will send out troops, impose martial order, and
           scare the minorities to not cheer for Kerry.
2004/11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:34504 Activity:nil
11/1    RIP retarted bullshit url
        \_ RIP speling
2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:34505 Activity:nil
11/1    So I'd like to use Visual SourceSafe through ssh-tunneling.  (I'd
        rather chuck VSS entirely, but that's another story).  I have no
        problem getting VNC to work with ssh (using putty on a WinXP box) but
        though I've tried this with ports 139 and 445 for file sharing
        (following some guides online) I've been unable to get this working.
        Has anyone successfully done this?  How?  (BTW, the reason I don't want
        to use VPN is that VPN on XP sucks rocks for performance.)
        \_ WTF does this have to do with the elections?  Get outta here!
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34506 Activity:very high
11/1    Party of the little people - 8 out of 9 top 527s donors are Dem
        Also, 8 of 10 top 527s total.  McCain - Feingold was a huge
        \_ wow, swift boat veterans for slime earned as much as
           I'm sure that was based on grassroots contributions from former
           swift boat veterans!  -tom
           \_ wow, what about the other 7?  what about Soros?  what about
              oh nevermind, your mind is closed.  anyway, the swift boats
              was mostly vets and small private contributors.  you'd know
              that if you were reading conservative blogs where they got
              most of the donations from.  but don't let facts get in your way.
              \_ Soros is one guy.  There are numerous sources which show that
                 Bush gets more of his money from big contributors, and has
                 more big contributors.  Speaking of facts getting in your
                 way.  I guess I should be getting my "facts" from
                 conservative blogs!  -tom
                 \_ Yeah he was one guy with billions to give to diff.
                    groups. Vs. a bunch of vets.
        \_ Yawn.  So Repubs contributed the obligatory $1,000 per member of
           household, including Manuel the pool-boy, Maria the maid, and a
           menagerie of pets.  Sure, it looks like less, but add it up: it's
           \_ Stop making shit up. If you have some sort of proof that someone
              is making illegal contributions, post it.
              \_ Oh, please.  Don't kill the messenger if you don't like the
        \_ It's all bad:
2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:34507 Activity:nil
11/1    A coworker would like to run PHP w/o a web server as a shell
        script. Is this possible? Suggestions?
        \_ There's a php shell, and for standalone client-side apps there's
           PHP-GTK, though I'm confused as to why not just use Perl or
           \_ There's some PHP tools he would like to use.
              \_ Fair enough.  I'm kinda partial to PHP myself.
        \_ Yeah, it's possible.  Just make sure you install the commandline
           tool (bin/php) when you build it, then you just do something like:
             // your script goes here, use stuff like $_SERVER['ARGV']
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34508 Activity:nil
11/1    A Failed Presidency
        LA Times editorial criticizing Bush (no endorsement for Kerry),0,6861797.story
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34509 Activity:low
11/1    I haven't received the big book about election, you know, the one
        that talks about all the measures and things that I am suppose to
        vote on. Do they have one at the voting place? Is the info online?
        Can I just vote Kerry and be done with it? (ie, skip the rest?)
        \_ For the state props, see
           For your local props/candidates google:
           <your county> registrar of voters  They may have candidate
           statements and info on the local propositions.
        \_ Are you sure you're registered?  They screwed me once.
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34510 Activity:nil
11/1    "A Failed Presidency", LA Times editorial (no endorsement for Kerry),0,6861797.story
        "If elections were solely a job performance review, President George W.
        Bush would lose in a landslide. He has been a reckless steward of the
        nation's finances and its environment, a divisive figure at home and
        abroad. It's fair to say that Bush has devalued the American brand in
        the global marketplace. What keeps this a close race is voter
        discomfort with Sen. John F. Kerry and the success of Republicans in
        stoking concerns about Kerry's fitness for office. But the thrust of
        the Bush campaign message -- essentially, you are stuck with me in
        this frightful time because the other guy is too unreliable -- is a
        tacit acknowledgment that he can't allow the election to be a
        referendum on his record."
        \-i think framing this in personal terms, i.e. you are not just
          voting for bundle of policies A or B, is good. however evaluating
          BUSHCO with sort of a "wall street journal metric" i dont think
          is adequate ... i think he deserves moral condemnation as well.
          presiding over something like abu graib goes beyond he didnt deliver
          enough shareholder value. and delivering shareholder value doenst
          make up for allowing something like that to happen ... we hopefully
          have higher standards for heads of state than for pro-athletes.--psb
          \_ It'd be like if Michael Eisner let some low-level Disney animation
             department create a Mickey Mouse  hentai film.
             \-it would be like if michael eisner kept a japanese schoolgirl
               in his basement. us presidents:bush :: musicians:r_kelly --psb
2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:34511 Activity:very high Edit_by:auto
11/1    Login: pollux                           Name: Paolo Soto
        Directory: /home/sequent/pollux         Shell: /usr/local/bin/ntcsh
        Office: The Convenience-Free Zone (tm)
        On since Mon Nov  1 16:02 (PST) on ttyDu from
        Mail last read Mon Nov  1 16:36 2004 (PST)
        No Plan.
        \_ But there is no Castor.
        \_ how is this name based?
        \_ who cares....
        \_, then, then
  The point is, no matter where you
           go, spam will follow. :)
2004/11/1 [ERROR, uid:34512, category id '18005#6.4775' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34512 Activity:high
11/1    OMG!  I know this is Rush and he's a shill and a liar but are his
        numbers real?  Can someone help me to refute this stuff?  Someone
        sent me this and I'm raelly worried now.
        \_ He's completely full of shit.
        \_ Election day is tomorrow!  Just forget about the stupid polls!
        \_ how much right is Rush? Ultra right, slightly right, ???
           \_ The important thing about Rush is that Rush is an idiot.
              His actual political leanings are much less important. -- ilyas
              \_ Rush is a radio guy first, an idiot second, and a right-winger
                 third, IMHO.  By that I mean that you shouldn't compare him
                 to, say Ann Coulter,  but rather to Howard Stern or Adam
                 Corolla.  His job is to entertain people who are stuck in
                 their cars with nothing to do but listen to the radio.
                 Being an idiot and a nut comes second, and frankly as a guy
                 who used to commute over an hour in a car with only AM radio,
                 I have to admit he's pretty good at what he does.
                 \_ Of course, just as Michael Moore is good at what he does.
                    I compare him to Moore, though their media of expression
                    are different.  They are both 'dangerous' for the same
                    reason.  People like Rush or Moore have a way of defining
                    discourse far beyond what is their legidimate due as
                    entertainers.  Actually, I take back my earlier comment,
                    Rush may not actually be an idiot, he may merely have a
                    certain radio persona.  He is sort of in a Turing test
                    equivalence class with idiots. -- ilyas
                    \_ This may be the first time an ilyas sentence made me
                       laugh out loud.
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34513 Activity:high
11/1    And you thought that Florida e-voting clip was a joke right?
        "Some people who selected Kerry are seeing BUSH in the summary of
        whom they voted for!  They had to get the poll workers involved, and
        the second time around when they re-selected Kerry he properly showed
        in the summary."
        \_ one of the other groups out canvassing with us talked to some people
           who had this happen. I'm posting some updates now... with video(!)
           of 2 hour lines at the poles.                - rory
           \_ I'm waiting for those updates still...
           \_ how about video showing the evoting machine actually broke in
              real time?  we can see lines on tv.
              \_ uh... if I'm successfully able to follow anyone into the
                 polling booth with my digital camera you will be the
                 first to know.
        \_ Also:
           \_ Eh.  Verified?  How do you verify that the woman really voted
              \_ Multiple reports?  Admission from the "elections division
                 manager" that certain selections caused the bug to surface?
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34514 Activity:nil
11/1    CBS: Kerry Wins Florida
        Dan Rather just broke in to normal programming to report
        Kerry has won Florida
        \_ please don't post freeper text that even freepers call lame
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:34515 Activity:nil
        CA to be safe?
        \_ Based on a rather biased translation of UBL's speech.  Cf.
           houris as grapes instead of maidens, and maiden instead of
           virgin in certain religious works.
2004/11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:34516 Activity:high
11/1    Straight hallway #1 makes an "L" intersection (90 degrees)
        with straight hallway #2. Hallway #1 is X feet wide and #2
        is Y feet wide. What is the longest board/plank/2x4
        that you can move from one hallway to the next, sqeezing
        around the corner?
        \_ Assume it's zero height (ie. it's a 2-dimensional problem)
        \_ How tall is the ceiling?
           \_ shorter than the shortest board
              \_ It still matters.  Should we just set ceiling height to zero
                 as the poster below has done?
        \_ Given ceiling height=0, I think the max length is (x+y)*sqrt(2)
           but don't ask me to prove it.  I might prove it later though...
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34517 Activity:moderate
11/01   if i put in Chimp for pres, does GWB get the vote?
        \_ In florida? Probably.
           \_ Not if they're black or not smart enuff to use a butterfly ballot
2004/11/1 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:34518 Activity:nil
11/1    Live105 doing an election special.  Feat. Berkeley College Repubs!
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34519 Activity:nil
11/1    What the media should have covered.  Instead they reverted to
        documents made at Kinkos.
        Ex-Navy sec to Kerry: Open up your records
2004/11/1 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:34520 Activity:nil
11/1    Why is the media so obsessed with the national polls when it is the
        electoral votes that decide the outcome?
        \_ obBanTheElectoralCollege, obItsARepublicNotADemocracyStupid!
2004/11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:34521 Activity:high 53%like:34309
11/1    Whaa! Home Entertainment 2004 CANCELLED due to hotel strikes!
2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/Virus] UID:34522 Activity:nil
11/1    New anti virus software comes out with "wardriver detection", how
        does that work on the packet level?
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