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| 2004/9/21 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:33652 Activity:insanely high |
9/21 What would we do without the true believers at dailykos? These guys
are just as wacky as the freepers! http://csua.org/u/94w
\_ I agree. "Hunter" sounds like a freeper, but he's a liberal.
The characteristic in common is that the typical freeper and
Hunter here just won't acknowledge central weaknesses in their
position. E.g., for this dailykos guy, it's
http://csua.org/u/94h (the Post comparison of memos), and the Post's
reporting that all existing Texas Air National Guard memos have
reporting that all 100+ existing Texas Air National Guard memos have
been in fixed-width font, except these four from Burkett.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18982-2004Sep13.html
-liberal
\_ Not to mention that the signatures on the comparison memos
aren't even remotely similar.
\_ This is really embarassing, and it just goes on and on!
\_ They are just as whacky as Freepers because they point out
that Freepers are liars and extremists? Whatever.
\_ You don't think that "The right-wing are liars. They have
been liars. They will continue to be liars. It is part and
parcel of modern "movement" conservatism." sounds just like
a freeper, but with right-wing instead of left wing? Not to
mention such great explanations as: "Does it remain possible
that Killian re-typed them at a later date, and that his
inexpertise as a typist is responsible for the differences
between those docs and official TANG docs? Certainly." It's
POSSIBLE, but it's pretty freakin' unlikely, don't cha
think? You know, on the same level of possibilty as the
plot of "The Day After Tomorrow."
\_ The modern right wing movement is based on extremist and
easily disproven religious BS like creationism and the
Virgin Birth. It is extremism to point out this obvious
fact? The guy could be more tactful, but the truth is
the Religious Right's entire worldview is based on
fantasy.
\_ "Easily Disproven?" Go ahead. Prove to me that
virgin birth is impossible, and creationism isn't
true. Or heck, why not just go straight for it and
prove there is no God?
\_ If you continue to believe that the world was
created in seven days in the face of all the
evidence from the fields of biology, geology,
physics and astronomy, then there is no hope
for you and I will not waste my time. Take
a science class sometime. The existence or
non-existence of God is tangential to what
any particular sect or cult believes in. Oh,
I agree with you on the memos, btw.
\_ it was reformed in 7 days, not created
\_ You need to study up on your Christianity. In
the Hebrew in the bible it doesn't say "7 days"
it says "7 periods of time" which could mean
ANYTHING. People who literally believe 7 days
are probably idiots. Although, if you can't
prove the non-existence of God, ANYTHING
becomes possible, and 7 day creation is just as
logical as anything else. Anyway, the point
was that the people you're calling wackos are
using the same argument as the people you're
defending. You mock the belifs of one and not
the other, although they use the same argument
style to back up their conclusions. "You can't
prove it's NOT true!"
\_ that's ridiculous. There is physical evidence
which supports the Big Bang and evolution.
There is no evidence to support the creationist
view except some book that some wack jobs wrote,
and there are portions, like the Great Flood,
which are directly contradicted by all the
physical evidence as well as simple logic.
Shit, I've been trolled. -tom
\_ Why are they idiots? I say you're an idiot for
believing in your version. The early bible
stories are all ripoffs of old Babylonian etc.
mythology anyway. So you really believe the
Bible is some kind of elaborate metaphorical
construct that could mean ANYTHING? Or do you
simply apply that to things science disagrees
with?
\_ ripoff? nah, I would say they have the
same origin. afterall, abraham was a
babylonian, being from ur. different
books of the bible are written in very
different manner, so yes, parts of it
could be metaphorical and other parts
not.
could be allegorical and other parts
not. Jesus used parables all the time.
(ref. "dict ur")
\_ "7 day creation is just as logical as anything
else." No. It is not logical to believe something
in the face of overwhelming evidence to the
contrary. It might be conceivable, but it is
not logical.
\_ You've convinced *me* there's no God. Would you
please sign your name so I'll know who to thank
for completely changing my world-view? |
| 2004/9/21 [Computer/Domains] UID:33653 Activity:low |
9/20 DNS question: What is the purpose of the "NS records at parent
servers" test at <DEAD>DNSreport.com<DEAD>? Let's say my domain is http://example.org.
When would this sort of query ever get run in real life. It tests
if the NS record comes back in the ANSWER SECTION versus the
AUTHORITY SECTION of:
dig http://example.org @TLD1.ULTRADNS.NET. NS +norec
\_ if I understand the question correctly (and I need sleep)
the point is whether or not the proper glue records are there. |
| 2004/9/21 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:33654 Activity:moderate |
9/21 One day after I post about how Dubya is going to send more troops
to Iraq to crush the insurgents, Paul Krugman of the NY Times expresses
his opinion on this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/21/opinion/21krugman.html?hp
\_ csuamotd/csuamotd doesn't work any more.
What happen?
\_try csuacsua/csuacsua
\_ Some one set us up the password change.
\_ use mine! dykewhore / dykewhore - danh
\_ danh must have changed the password in an attempt to
monopolize the free password market with his popular
dykewhore brand name!
\_ I am just trying to prevent your brain be polluted with
liberal biased media. |
| 2004/9/21 [Reference/Religion] UID:33655 Activity:high |
9/21 Muslims rule major Swedish city
http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/2004/09/003131print.html
\_ Haha!
\_ Haha! Sweden = pwned.
\_ Yeah, actually I heard the same kinda stuff from one of our
Danish exchange students. Getting in fights with Turks at bars
and the such like. He didn't like muslims.
\_ RACIST!! All countries should allow unlimited immigration to realize
the multicultural benefits. There's not enough Turkish culture in
Turkey or Turkmenistan you know, it needs to be part of every
country.
\_ ALL HAIL GREAT TURKMENBASHI!
\_ And if you say "You can't walk to Turkmenistan," I say
"Of course I can! Screw you!"
\_ If we're decoupling country and race/culture, why should we think
Jews and Palestinians have the right to have their own countries?
Just tell them to immigrate to wherever they want.
\_ I'll take the Jews, but the Palestinians can stay home.
\_ I'll take the Palestinian Christians. The rest can stay home.
\_ East Turkistein in China! |
| 2004/9/21 [Computer/SW/Security, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:33656 Activity:high |
9/21 Say, why don't the proponents of a logged motd actually hack it and
put it in /etc/motd.logged, and let people vote with their feet?
-- ilyas
\_ why don't you create /etc/motd.stupid and post your crap there? -tom
\_ Every account should have its own /etc/motd.<accountname>.
Only you will be allowed to post to your own motd. No one
else will be allowed to touch it, and /etc/motd.public
will be turned off. This way, everyone who wants to can rant
to the heart's content, and no one will have to worry about
their rants being baleated. Everyone else can just ignore
you if they want to. We can have special zones set up for
those that love to argue, as well - for instance,
/etc/motd.tomvsilyas, /etc/motd.freepernutzo,
/etc/motd.aaronallcapsrant, and /etc/motd.mormons. The AMC
can have his own empty file for his motd, but it will be
owned by root so that he can remain "anonymous." It will
be world readable but not writeable by anyone.
\_ and we could call these files ".plan" files, and have a
special command to read these motd files called "finger."
\_ Well, I was trying not to belabor the point too much, but
then again...
\_ you have just used the slippery slope tactic.
\_ And tom used a red herring AND an ad hominem in 1 line!
\_ uh, ilyas is the one with the red herring. -tom
\_ ilyas just volunteered! |
| 2004/9/21 [Recreation/Shopping] UID:33657 Activity:high |
9/21 Poll, do you wear your shoes in the house?
Yes: .
No: ..,
\_ Let's modify the poll.
Has carpet and wear shoes at home :
Has carpet and don't wear shoes at home : ...
Has no carpet and war shoes at home :
Has no carpet and don't wear shoes at home:
Conjugates verbs with shoes on :
Conjugates verbs with shoes off : |
| 2004/9/21 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/Security] UID:33658 Activity:very high |
9/21 A question for everyone. My mother is a libertarian. She wants a
\_ Librarians are sexy
\_ Not in Hayward Pub. Lib.
few computers in her library to only be allowed to visit certain
webpages. (Various refernece and database pages). Basically, she
wants a browser with build in white listing for page viewing. Is
there anyway to do this?
\_ stick them on a unrouted/private network with a firewall/proxy
between them an the outside. Setup access rules on the proxy
to ONLY allow the desired sites. Make sure it doesn't do
any other routing. Lock down the PC's to prevent physical access
hacking.
\_ That's the usual solution, but since it's a public library,
we were hoping for something simpler. What would your
recommend as a router? A linux box?
\_ cheap (if you have the expertise to set it up handy)
linux/bsd box, running squid.
\_ I used to work in a company that made a low-cost machine whose
browser has built-in parental control. But it went bankrupt three
years ago.
\_ Implement this with a firewall. Iptables on Linux will do it.
I am sure Windows has a firewall software.
\_ A firewall local to the machine, or in the gateway, or does
it not matter?
\_ It's easier to do it once in the gateway, but you can
implement it on each host locally just as well. I just
recalled that we use 'Sygate' for Windows.
\_ You want an easy and fast way to do this? Buy one of those wireless
router things for $50 and turn off wireless. Then use the Parental
Control feature to deny access to all domains except those you
enter. I have a D-Link DI-614+ and DI-624 and they both do this.
Admin access is by username/password and you can add/delete domains.
\_ The eminently hackable Linux-running Linksys WRT54G also has this
feature.
\_ Mozilla extention: Weblock http://www.brownhen.com/weblock
\_ I would NOT recommend trussting any access control in PC's that
end-users will have access to.
\_ Really, it just doesn't matter that much. There are other
completely open computers in the library. If someone
really wants to use a access controlled computer to
access other stuff, it's not really going to matter much,
and eventually someone will notice and kick them off.
In general the idea is to have some computers that will
be generally open to people actually doing research. -op
\_ they should whitelist http://Amazon.com as well as the database
searches. I often use amazon when I'm using a library
to figure out more information about a book than
is available in library databases. |
| 2004/9/21 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:33659 Activity:high |
9/21 CBS Arranged Meeting (For Burkett) With Lockhart.
http://csua.org/u/953
So the Kerry campaign was in on the fraud as well.
\_ CBS News called Bush's camp, too. Obviously they were in on it, too.
\_ What you have is the NYT, LAT, Boston Globe and Kerry campaign
colluding with 60 minutes to launch fraudulent anti-Bush
campaigns in an attempt to influence the pres. election.
\_ Tinfoil hats anyone?
\_ Yeah, I think it's just CBS News that really screwed the pooch
\_ Oh Jesus, go away TalkingPointsTroll. Or are you SwiftBoatGuy
again?
\_ You have a major media outlet perpetrating fraud in an attempt
to influence Pres. election and your response is to castigate
those upset. You're a petulant disgraceful twit.
\_ Or you have a greatly respected journalist who didn't check
his source well enough. The president's military record
questions have hung around because they are valid,
unanswered, and continually dodged.
\_ But when our president misled us into an unwinnable war in
Iraq, you told me to shut up when I complained. Don't
get upset when the same happens to you. Oh, and did I mention
that you're drawing conclusions based on paranoid conspiracy
theories? I bet you're one of those folks that think Clinton
pinned the Oklahoma Federal Building bombings on those law
abiding citizens from Michigan to avoid having to go to war
with the Muslims that really did it.
\_ No Straw Men please. -Bush basher
\_ No, that's not what that story says. It says that Lockhart
called Burkett at CBS's request, but that they did not talk
about the memos at all. Did you fail English 101?
\_ Initially Lockhart and the Kerry campaign maintained they
knew nothing about the memos or who created them. Now this
revelation. Why should I believe them or CBS now?
\_ What part of "did not talk about the memos at all" did you
not understand?
\_ Why would Lockhart randomly call Burkett at the
request of Mapes, a producer at CBS. It's your
contention that CBS, ABC, and NBC news producers
broker calls between campaign chairs and their
sources on a regular basis? Bizarre.
\_ You bet your sweet patootie that if a CBS news
director told a campaign manager (from any
campaign anytime) to call a certain person
that they would do it. Wouldn't you? |
| 2004/9/21 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:33660 Activity:low |
9/21 Burkett explains how he obtained memos: http://csua.org/u/951 After he received the documents in Houston, Burkett said, he drove home, stopping on the way at a Kinko's shop in Waco to copy the six memos. In the parking lot outside, he said, he burned the ones he had been given and the envelope they were in. Ramirez was worried about leaving forensic evidence on them that might lead back to her, Burkett said, acknowledging that the story sounded fantastic. "This is going to sound like some damn sci-fi movie," he said. -USA Today Another story: http://csua.org/u/952 (Post) \_ Sci-fi movie? Shouldn't he have said suspense movie if that's really his recollection? \_ Never fear, the kosers are now searching Texas for Lucy Ramirezes, and they've even found a few. This proves that a Lucy Ramirez does exist, and therefore the memos are legit. http://csua.org/u/94w |
| 2004/9/21 [Computer/Rants, Computer/HW, Computer/HW/Display] UID:33661 Activity:moderate |
9/21 What's an inexpensive way to add usb 2.0 to a computer?
\_ USB 2.0 PCI card. What you're deciding is which brand and how
many ports and whether you want FireWire with the card or not.
Browse through http://newegg.com or CompUSA / Best Buy.
\_ Agreed, although unless you have a good reason, son't spend more
than $15-20.
\_ I used to think the same thing, but then my $15 USB 2.0
card broke one of its 4 sockets.
\_ My $15 USB card is just fine, and since both $15 and $40
cards are made in China by probably the same company, I'd
expect the $40 one to break too.
\_ You're right about them all being made in China, but
it's reasonable to assume they differ in quality, and
you can pick good ones. I recommend op check http://newegg.com
and look for highly rated USB 2.0 PCI cards. I see
one there now for $13.50, but it's out of stock.
\_ If you're upgrading a system, don't overlook firewire if your
device supports it. It's specced slower but generally performs
better in real life.
\_ I am looking for possibily a usb 2.0 and firewire combo card.
any specific recommendations? I guess I can also swap out my
dell motherboard with an ASUS one that has USB 2.0 and firewire
for around $100, but it seems troublesome... -op
\_ I'd just get the $22 one and if it sucks get another brand:
http://csua.org/u/957 (newegg.com) |
| 2004/9/21 [Recreation/Humor] UID:33662 Activity:kinda low |
9/21 Creepiest Laffy Taffy Joke:
How does a boy know when he has become a man?
When he can data a Shirley Temple instead of drinking one.
\_ What kind of data? temperature data? pressure? salinity?
\_ Humidity? Friction (how slippery)? |
| 2004/9/21 [ERROR, uid:33663, category id '18005#8.6025' has no name! , ] UID:33663 Activity:nil |
9/21 Zogby has Libertarian candidate Badnarik polling almost even with
Ralph Nader.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=867
So, are these people who would otherwise vote Republican, Democrat,
or just stay home and bitch? |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33664 Activity:kinda low |
9/21 What is your favorite registrar for .net that supports glue records?
\_ Just an aside, but don't *all* registrars offer com|net|org ?
\_ yeah probably..
\_ yeah, but few registrars support glue. |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33665 Activity:nil |
9/21 what's the etymology for "touch base" and "heads up"?
are they from baseball?
\_ 'Touch base' almost certainly is, as in "don't get too far ahead and
get tagged out." 'Heads up' could come from a sports context, or
maybe from warfare. |
| 2004/9/21 [Reference/Tax, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:33666 Activity:kinda low |
9/21 Missing signature mars launch of war on hunger
U.N. Global Tax
http://smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/21/1095651327340.html?oneclick=true
\_ login?
\_ csuamotd csuamotd (newly made)
\_ UN: We want more of your money to pour into our pockets.
\_ Kofi Annan's son's friends pockets, actually. -John
\_ And you think Kofi Annan and son did not receive any
kick backs? How naive you are then.
\_ For god's sake, "subtlety" for you must be
a fucking sledge hammer. Ever heard of
"implying something"? -John |
| 2004/9/21 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:33667 Activity:insanely high |
9/21 So Iran today started to enrich uranium, from a stock sufficient for
several nukes. I read that it will be about a year before Iran can
build nukes without outside help. I don't understand this; I believe
they can do it by themselves today if they kicked the inspectors out.
Isn't this accurate? Granted it would be 3-12 months before a
successful nuke test. -liberal
(For all you wankers who think I'm a crazed freeper since I'm talking
about Iran, here's an anti-Bush carrot for you: http://csua.org/u/959
\_ Obviously you are a nuclear arms expert and intelligence agent
rolled into one so I believe you.
\_ I took Muller's Physics 7B class and read what he wrote about
calutrons. I think that, reading Sum Of All Fears, knowing
what happened with Pakistan / India, and having some clue is
enough to make my assertion. I am asking whether it's accurate,
after all.
Muller: "separation is the hard part; the weapon design is easy"
http://people.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb5.htm -op
\_ I saw 'Red Dawn' and took Physics 7ABC and I think you
are a troll.
\_ Have you read Sum Of All Fears (no, watching the movie
definitely doesn't count)? Have you read Muller's article?
Repeat after me:
"separation is the hard part; the weapon design is easy"
http://people.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb5.htm
Muller: "... can employ the simple, reliable gun method.
... the Hiroshima bomb ... was considered so reliable that
it was never tested before it was used."
http://muller.lbl.gov/TRessays/09_Lowest_Tech_Atom_Bomb.htm
-op
\_ Repeat after me: troll.
\_ That's because he's an idiot. He has however
discovered that one of the best ways to troll
is calling serious posters trolls.
\_ The best way to troll is to arm yourself
with a little bit of knowledge and act like
you know something. This guy is hilarious!
Physics 7B!!! I am going to bust a gut!
\_ With Muller. If you took his class, you'd
know what I meant.
I don't see you disputing any of the
evidence provided, and again, the original
post was "please show me I'm wrong". -op
\_ Let's start with your first
sentence: "Iran today started to
enrich uranium." You follow this
with: "I believe they can do it by
themselves today." You think they
can process two tons of ore in a
day? This is where the year comes
from.
\_ You really have a tough time with
English comprehension. The, "...
can do it today" part obviously
refers to the build a bomb without
outside help. In fact, the whole
construct makes no sense otherwise.
Why you would take an ambiguous
phrase and interpret it in the way
that makes it senselessness is
beyond me. Is English your native
language? -!op
\_ No, its the motd. He just wants
to start a fight. --also !op
\_ Yep, I think this is about the time the Isreali special forces
show up and blow the crap out of it.
\_ Whatever. Israel, Bush, Kerry, Europe, Russia -- they all know
the score, I just want sodans to know too when something goes down,
whatever that may be. -op |
| 2004/9/21 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:33668 Activity:high |
9/21 Has anyone tried DVDs from http://www.asiandvd.com or similar sites? I was wondering since VCD is the prevailing format in Asia, do these Asian DVDs actually hav DVD-quality video or do they only have VCD-quality video converted to DVD format? Thanks. \_ It varies, a lot. Some of them are shitty pirated VHS/VCD transfers, some of them are full DVD quality with extras. It varies by \_ It varies, a lot. Some of them are shitty pirated VHS/VCD transfers,\ some of them are full DVD quality with extras. It varies by publisher and even by movie within a particular company. Read review sites if you are looking for a particular one. --oj \_ where to get Churasan DVD's with english subtitles? |
| 2004/9/21-22 [Computer/HW/Drives, Recreation/Media] UID:33669 Activity:high |
9/21 Must kill Lucas. Waited at 1201AM at Tower to buy it. Knowing the
bastardizations. It is worst than I thought. There are new BG lines,
changes in the style of FX, bloopers still left in!
\_ of course, ALL these changes have been documented for weeks. Just
had to go to any website (theforce.net), and you'd know.
\_ Are you kidding? You waited at tower till 12:01 to pay too
much for some DVDs you knew would suck? Wha?
\_ LASERDICS RIPS! LASERDISC RIPS ARE THE STANDARD STAR WARS DVD!!
\_ Ha, ha, laserDICS. Anyway I got one of these and was all
excited. Then I watched a couple scenes on my PC to check it
out and realized how childish it is and how I seem to have
outgrown it. Maybe the prequels and all the analysis and hype
killed the magic for me. When Vader speaks I have an image of
fat James Earl Jones in my mind.
\_ Er, maybe its just that after the 20 MILLIONTH TIME, it
isn't all that exciting anymore. People need to stop giving
Lucas money.
\_ This totally reminds me of the Conan O'Brian where Triumph visits
the line for the episode I premiere.
Here's the video in question:
http://csua.org/u/95d
\_ this is 95% true for me -op
\_ Has there been a change in the end of ROTJ, where the apparitions
appear? Natalie Portman isn't in there, is she?
\_ Anakin's ghost is now Hayden.
\_ Get a life - William Shatner
\_ Learn how to act - Fans
\_ Stop appearing in ads for the Ramada.
\_ Priceline. |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33670 Activity:nil |
9/21 What's a word similar to "balkanized" but not quite, I think it
might be an "*ification" word. It means something like divided into
factions, competing camps, etc. It's at the edge of my mind...
\_ balkanization |
| 2004/9/21 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:33671 Activity:very high |
9/21 Here's another question: Is it possible to lock a CD or DVD drive
so that the disk cannot be removed by a member of the thieving
public, but it can still be opened by someone authorized?
\_ I think you want to put the drive on a server somewhere and mount
it as a directory. Or just get a big harddrive...
\_ Disk: No. PC case: sometimes. You'll notice that a lot of
cases have locks on the back, or loops for padlocks. These will
not dissuade anyone seriously motivated, though. For laptops,
Kensington locks. -John
\_ Kensington locks,hehehe. |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33672 Activity:insanely high |
9/21 [stop deleting posts]
\_ format, damn it. |
| 2004/9/21 [Health/Dental] UID:33673 Activity:moderate 50%like:35520 |
9/21 How can I find out if a dentist is good? I have a long list of
dentists approved by my dental PPO, but I'd like to base my
choice on a good recommendation. Thanks. |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33674 Activity:very high |
9/21 In Sims 2 how do you get engaged?
\_ High lifetime score (the lower bar). You can propose marriage, even
the relationship had been purely platonic.
if the relationship had been purely platonic. But in this case they
usually reject me and show a thought bubble of some other sim with
low Niceness, and you get a bad memory and you lose a lot of
friendship points. I don't understand. |
| 2004/9/21 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:33675 Activity:high |
9/21 Don't get Tim Noah mad at you. http://slate.msn.com/id/2107041 \_ it's pretty amazing how quickly the dittohead machine gets the public discourse away from the core issues. (See below discussion) -tom \_ ^Tim Noah^Geddes \_ Both. Is public examination of your life worse than getting fired? \_ http://csua.org/u/90k (original source article) If you think the right to privacy exceeds the newsworthiness, then more power to you. \_ Yep, I know. Just make sure you don't get Tim Noah mad at you, or he'd drag your life out in electronic print. \_ I'm struggling to find the newsworthiness in Tim Noah's expose of Geddes' life. \_ The "expose of Geddes' life" seems to be restricted to his political beliefs in direct relation to why he fired the lady. Again, if you think the right to privacy exceeds the newsworthiness, then more power to you. \_ Yes, I am sure Geddes' work as a standing trustee has much to do with the firing. And certainly the examination on how he got the standing trustee job has much to do with the firing. In fact, the whole point of the article seems to be that there's no news here. \_ Okay, that part is outside the firing. As for "no news here", it was news to me -- thanks for the URL. \_ Just eyeballing it, but that part is probably 2/3 of the article. Like I said, don't get Noah mad at you. \_ IMO, an employer firing someone for having a Kerry bumper sticker is something one can get legitimately mad about. \_ Sure, get mad. But publish an "expose" of Geddes as a standing trustee? This is just Noah flexing his power to punish Geddes. \_ I believe you were the person who used the term "expose". IMO, the publicity is deserved. BTW, do you know you overwrite posts? \_ Sorry if I overwrote your post, though I did try to merge in my changes. To be honest, with all the automerging that is going on, it's hard to tell who's overwriting whom in conversations like this. \_ We place different value on privacy then. If you care about your privacy, don't get Noah mad at you, because he has a mouthpiece, and he's going to use it to punish you. \_ The publicity is deserved, IMO. \_ I think we can all agree that Geddes is a jerk. So you think it's ok to talk about his other work as a standing trustee, even though it has nothing to do with the firing. What else would be ok to talk about? Can Noah publish his past traffic violations? Any other criminal record of Geddes'? How about what books he borrowed from the library? Or what tapes he rented from the video store? Or where he web surfed? Do you have a privacy threshold? \_ I believe I already wrote that this was outside the firing, and I won't spend time defending that. This is where you say "no news here", and this is where I say, "thanks for the URL, anyway." \_ Ah. I thought you were also the guy who said the publicity is deserved, and I was responding to that. Hard to tell on the motd. \_ I'm the same guy. Basically I'm for publicity on the firing, but I'm not sure about publicity on his trusteeship. The latter is much more arguable. \_ Ah, then we agree then. I also have no trouble with publicizing the firing, but I find the bulk of the Noah article disturbing. I don't find it disturbing. If you _/ Do something political and newsworthy then media will analyze you for juicy tidbits in search of a story. Noah here got a story: that this guy profits from people having economic troubles. \_ Tough shit. This is politics. This is how the world works. If you act like an ass, you might have someone act like an ass back to you. This is why we have a free press. \_ So every facet of Geddes' life is open to inspection? Or is there a privacy threshold? |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33676 Activity:very high |
9/21 What's a word similar to "balkanize" but not quite. It means something
like that, but not really at a nation level. Something like when a
unified group gets split into factions. Or like a big monopoly is
split into a bunch of little competing groups.
\_ Factionalize? Segregate? Try http://www.dictionary.com -John
\_ Polarize? Balkanification?
\_ |
| 2004/9/21 [Science/GlobalWarming, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:33677 Activity:nil |
9/21 [re-posted with various changes]
So Iran today started to create uranium hexafluoride gas. They have
nuclear centrifuges already built to enrich this to nuclear plant fuel,
but can easily continue to weapons-grade concentrations. Their stock
of yellowcake is sufficient for several nukes. So, I read that it will
be about a year before Iran can build nukes without outside help. I
don't understand this; I believe that IF Iran kicked out the inspectors
today and IF they wanted to and IF no one did anything, they could have
a nuke between 6-24 months from now without outside assistance. Isn't
this accurate?
The difficult step in creating a nuke is obtaining weapons-grade
concentrations of uranium, while the weapon design is easy, and Iran
already has the centrifuges I believe. -liberal |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33678 Activity:nil |
9/21 [re-posted with various changes]
\_ don't kill everyone's comments.
\_ You didn't see this last post before the change:
\_ I see the misunderstanding now.
I will update the post to
more accurately reflect my
thinking. -op |
| 2004/9/21 [Uncategorized] UID:33679 Activity:high |
9/21 If I want to find machines that are NIS master or slave servers
is looking for "ypserv" in the portmapper dump a good way to
determine this from the net? Or is there a better signature? |
| 2004/9/21 [Science/Physics] UID:33680 Activity:nil |
9/21 [Iran nuke thread restored, completely]
Hi, I'm a completely unqualified dolt who has taken physics 7C and
I think Iran will have nuclear weapons in 24 months. What do you
guys think?
\_ I mean so what? We have nukes too. It's not like we are telling
them, oh, you can't have it because no one have it. We invented
WMD, we have the MOST WMD on earth, but sorry, you just can't have
it because we are the big boss.
\_ I think everybody should have nukes, this way, little Bush
can't go around fuck other countries. Go NK.
\_(Sarcastically) Oh, yeah, you are much smarter and wiser than
sanctioned members of the inspection team, therefore even though
they say it's gonna be one year you're completely right.
\_yeah, but I took 7C with professor Blugerblat, and he said
that it wasn't making a nuke that was a problem, it was
refining the stuff in it.
\_ Oh, you don't mean THE professor Blugerblat, do you? Oh my,
you MUST be an expert.
\_Well, I am, because A) I'm a liberal, B) I took physics 7C,
and C) I'm a disciple of Blugerblat. And the Hiroshima
bomb was never tested, nevermind that a bunch of existing
and future nobel laureates spent a couple years on
project Manhattan to develop the first atomic bomb,
because, goddamnit, I'm an expert because I took physics
7C. Did I mention I was a liberal and I took physics 7C?
\_ We've used up all our credibility on Iraq, that we can't do
anything to North Korea and Iran... and Pakistein (for helping out
Iran/N.Korea to develop nukes). Furthermore, this pre-emptive
strike doctrine really need some revision. United Nations just
released a report saying that 40 countries has the capability of
making nukes. The thought of invading more than 4-5 coutries
at the time is beyond my imagination.
\_ DON'T LET THE TERRORISTS WIN! RE-ELECT BUSH AND INVADE
40 COUNTRIES AT ONCE!!! |
| 2004/9/21-22 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:33681 Activity:insanely high |
9/21 So "liberal" guy, what do you think the US should do about
Iran's incipient nuclear program?
\_ I think we should violently rape and kill all non-US citizens.
Only then can we be SURE we won't be attacked!
\_ I don't have the whole answer, but this is part of it:
http://csua.org/u/959 (Yahoo! News)
Step 1: Elect Kerry (Bush is bad at coalitions)
\_ And he's good at what exactly? Looking
smug and stupid?
\_ Does step 1 include the "International tax" the UN wants
and GWB would never allow in a million years? Why did
Schroeder make a speech that essentially said, "Wait til
November because our boy Kerry will do it!"?
Step 2: Get Russia and Europe all on the same page
(Do you really want Iran to have nukes?)
\_ WTF does this mean? Get them? How? Why not just
say the answer to Iran's nuke program is "Get the
Iranians to stop having a nuke program"?
Step 3: Help Iran build nuclear power plants, but completely
restrict enriching uranium, even for peaceful purposes.
Russia can supply fuel for the power plants.
It doesn't matter if the NPT says Iran can enrich uranium
for peaceful purposes.
\_ There has been an open offer of help for years that
is even less restrictive than this but the Iranians
aren't interested. Now what? Please read a newspaper
every so often before deciding you have all the
answers.
You can still do 2 and 3 without 1, but I can't help but feel
Dubya will fuck it up again. -liberal
\_ what the hell do they need nuclear power for? What about oil?
\_ Iran will bewt the inspectors if we don't give em Step 3.
Europe and Russia will say they can live with Step 3;
but if the U.S. doesn't agree, then we're not using force
as the last possible option. We'll just look like warmongers
again.
\_ Huh? The US has offered the Iranians an even better
version of your "step 3" for several years. They are
not interested. Now what?
\_ Why does Iran need nuclear power??? It is sitting on massive
petroleum and natural gas reserves. A gallon of gas in Iran
is something like 0.30$. As for Europe, the Germans and
French were the same countries that sold Iran the illicit
refining equipment to begin with. It is Russia who is
is / has been building Iran's nuclear infrastructure.
Haven't you figured out appeasement does not work.
Iran's foreign policy is not coexistence with the West,
it is elimination of the West. Iran has been the largest
state sponsor of terror over the last 30 years.
\_ Then why the hell did we invade IRAQ? "Oops, one letter typo"
\_ iran will probably misuse a nuclear arsenal. but it is
well accepted that its oil reserves will not produce enough
oil within 50 years.
\_ Well accepted? By whom? Do you have a source for this
statement?
\_ It is a geological fact for every country producing
oil. Many countries are now "post peak" and are
producing less oil every year, the US being a prime
example.
\_ "Iran will probably misuse a nuclear arsenal" ... Pakistan
has nukes and hasn't misused them. The only country to
use nukes so far is us.
\_ Of course Iran wants nukes; only a moron would think they
were only interested in nuclear power. No one tries to
squish a country with nukes without hestitating.
No one also doubts that they are at the top of list for
state sponsors of terror -- but it's also true we don't have
smoking gun evidence of an al Qaeda link.
Also, please provide a URL showing that Germany and France
sold "[nuclear] refining equipment" to Iran. I believe
Pakistan sold centrifuge equipment to Iran.
Also, WW2 showed that giving up a country to an invading
country doesn't work. This was the example of WW2, Korea,
and Kuwait. However, Vietnam and Iraq have been different
stories, and it might be again with Iran.
So, do we have enough people to invade Iran ...?
I told you what I'd do. Now what would you? -op
\_ He answered. He'd appease.
\-semi-tangential comment: while this doenst rise to
a "clash of civilizations" there are some instances
where it is hard to put yourself in the other guys
shoes ...
[continuation moved to ~psb/MOTD/AmericanDoubleStandards]
\_ When you're a super power there are no double
standards. You do what you want and make the rules
for everyone. That's what being a super power is
all about. The US is a rather benign super power
as these things go. What other country with this
kind of power would do so little with it?
\_ US is rather benign, but it's not because of
the current administration.
\_ I think a fair solution would be to allow Iran to use the nuclear
technologies for peaceful purposes, including the dual-use
technologies, as long as they allow UN's international atomic agency
to fully monitor their nuclear activities without any exceptions.
Iran's government has been working a lot in the recent times to
develop domestic manufacturing (including auto, aerospace) and IT
industries. Their nuclear ambitions might be viewed simply as yet
another step on the way to joining the "technologically advanced
nation" club. They also argue that meeting domestic energy needs
using solely fossil fuels will have a serious environmental impact.
Neither they have enough power generating capacity to meet energy
needs for future. This is probably why they have just started
building a gas pipeline to Armenia. They say they intend to export
gas to Armenia and import electricity produced there. I am not
saying that everything is well in Iran. They were definitely caught
red-handed handed with their undisclosed uranium enrichment
facilities but I would allow them to keep their reactors as long
as they agree to play by the rules.
\_ Wait a minute. Isn't our invasion of Iraq supposed to scare
countries like Iran and N. Korea into abandoning their WMD
programs? |
| 2004/9/21-22 [Consumer/TV] UID:33682 Activity:high |
9/21 Children's program from the 70's. There was less restriction on
TV then...
http://rainbow.arch.scriptmania.com/rainbow_tv_episode.html
\_ BEST. VIDEO. EVAR!!!!!!1!!
\_ This is disturbing on so many levels. Is it legit?
\_ Rainbow was a fairly respected children's program (think Sesame
Street for the UK) in the 1970s. This is one of (I think) two
episodes that the cast did "off the record", for fun. -John |
| 2004/9/21-22 [Uncategorized] UID:33683 Activity:nil |
9/21 Pac-Man poetry
http://michael.tresca.net/freebies/indexpacman.html |
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