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2004/9/9 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:33427 Activity:moderate |
9/8 So, I asked this a few years ago, it seems there should have been some progress on this front: A calendar server for linux? Would be nice if it could work with outlook clients but not mandatory, would be nice if people could update their Cals from the web, would be nice if it was free. I'm looking at calcium which seems like http://www.brownbearsw.com has just taken their popular but kind of klunky (and not free) ical and ported it to perl. [spelld] \_ There exist a number of commercial products for Linux including probably the ones from IBM, Oracle, and Sun/iPlanet but I don't think they work with Lookout. \_ Isn't there something from Ximian that apes all the nifty Exchange stuff? Look around, there's quite a few things along these lines. I believe Outlook is also fairly flexible in how it synchronizes with various apps. For a nice web-based groupware, look at phprojekt. I have some others lying around, mail me if you want me to dig them out. -John |
2004/9/9 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:33428 Activity:very high |
9/8 So after the happy siege, the russians are now saying they will launch preemptive strikes against terrorist bases anywhere in the world. Interesting, that. -- ilyas \_ Their big terrorist problem is right there and always has been: Chechnya. Putin said he would solve Chechnya five years ago. All he is doing now is trying to look like he's in control; there's no new policy as far as I can tell. \_ Well, I ll give them a year or five. If the russians are serious, I look forward to the world's reaction to russian 'unilateralism' with great amusement. -- ilyas I'll look forward to the world's reaction to russian 'unilateralism' with great amusement. -- ilyas \_ The UN has already washed its hands of the Chechnya problem, so don't expect any 'unilateralism' comments on activities in Chechnya. The Iraq problem, OTOH, was being handled by an international coalition. The US decided to break with that coalition and the policy of containment. Hence the term 'unilateral.' Ilya, you're smarter than this. Are you just bored? \_ I am sorry, did you miss what russia actually said? Preemptive strikes against bases _anywhere on earth_. Not strikes in Chechnya which is old news, and no one cares. At this point, the rhetoric itself is amusing me to no end, since it's, you know, American rhetoric. On a slightly unrelated note, comments like 'Ilya, you're smarter than this' are the flip side of the coin with 'You are an idiot' printed on the front. It's a bland tom holubesque insult slightly sugar coated. You need to work on your habit of going after the man reflexively as a conclusion to anything. I mean this is the motd so it's ok, but in real life people will sort of stare at you. -- ilyas \_ Putin == Strong Soviet Leader! Americans are with the Chechen terrorists, just like supporting the Afghanistan insurgents! \_ Containment? In what way was the Oil For Stuff program containing anything? Who was doing this containment? France, Germany, and Russia all had multi-billion dollar deals with Hussein. They sure as hell weren't helping to contain anything. Are you talking about Guam or something? \_ Containing Saddam from being a threat to his neighbors, and to us from the possibility of his giving WMDs to terrorists. Bush incorrectly concluded he had WMDs because the CIA is supposed to be smarter than him and he thought that was fine. The world was still looking at a highly circumstantial American case. And Saddam was not a threat to his neighbors. Are you a total ignoramus? \_ http://www.counterpunch.org/leopold06272003.html Both the CIA and The State Dept said we had him contained just fine. \_ Apparently the CIA's opinion changed after 9/11. They didn't want Saddam on TV saying, "Take that stupid Americans" and the CIA not having said anything. \_ "And frankly [the sanctions] have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq..." -- Secretary Powell, 24 Feb 2001 ... So containment was working until 9/11 at which point Bush had an excuse to invade Iraq. \_ Dubya wasn't listening to Powell after 9/11. He was listening to the CIA, "no doubt" Cheney, and "slam-dunk" Tenet. \_ And you expected dramatic action a week later? A week later the US was still looking for a target and making speeches. \_ Listen, dufus: The U.S. had an obvious enemy in Afghanistan, and had not done anything yet. Russia has been stomping all over Chechnya for the last five years and more. \_ It is quite understandable that Russians would use this siege as an excuse to go after Chechens with links to sesessionalists in as an excuse to go after Chechen sesessionalist leaders living in other countries. A number of Chechen leaders have received political assylum in Europe and Middle east. They might or might not be linked to Chechen terrorism. They all deny charges of terrorism but Russia claims they all have links to terrorists and demands their extradictions. No credible evidence of terrorist links has been extraditions. No credible evidence of terrorist links has been presented so far and the Russian requests have been frowned upon. A few months ago, a Chechen ex-president who was living in Qatar was assassinated. Qatari intelligence services with the help of CIA quickly traced the assassination to the Russian special services. Two russian agents have been convicted and sentensed to life in prison in Qatar. Russians tried denying any involvment but the evidence was overwhelming. What Russians are now saying is that what happened in Beslan gives them a moral right to go after Chechen leaders living in other countries. Europeans aren't buying this argument. \_ Will the Europeans bring it to the UN when their people start getting blown up on a regular basis? Or just knuckle under and elect socialists like Spain who will turtle them up until it's too late? The Islamic world has been fighting against the west for a thousand years. They still are. It is only now that some Western nations have come to realise this. \_ Which I guess goes to show how bad the Islamic World is at warfare these days. \_ http://strange.timetrip.net/?entry=throwrocks -John \_ Would you mind giving a summary of this? I don't like to watch videos at work. \_ It's about 20 seconds long. Sight-gag, largely. \_ A thousand years? The Islamic world? Using the same broad generalizations that fuel statements like those, the Poles are part of an economic powerhouse and empire that has been enslaving and exploiting the third world for 500 years, and Laos is part of a technological revolution. \_ The Poles don't make speeches to this day about how they will be retaking Spain. \_ When the Europeans start being blown up, then the right thing to do would be to go after the terrorists and I am sure they well. But my point was that it generally appears that Russia is pursuing its own political goals by going after the Chechen leadership in exile. For example, when Russia presented the "evidence" that Aslan Maskhadov's representative, Ahmed Zakaev, is a terrorist, the British laughed so hard that they gave him a political assylum. \_ So it is ok for EU to sit back until they're getting blown up, too? Then going after terrorists will be ok? The British have opened the doors and provided legal protection to all sorts of vicious evil human garbage. The Brits giving asylum to someone means little. \_ That's the whole point. The Europeans are not getting blown up, nor will they be, because they are no longer imperialists nor do they support Isreal unblinkingly. America still cannot admit to itself that these attacks are the inevitable results of imperial policies. |
2004/9/9 [Uncategorized] UID:33429 Activity:nil 66%like:33422 |
9/8 Stop selectively nuking the fri \_ Your 'cure' is worse than th \_ Log shows nuke from the bott \_ ok I just bottom up \_ next time nuke f Himmler was here. \_ Awesome idea, Tee hee. \_ PLEASE don't \_ cat /etc/motd cut -c 1-40 / mv /tmp/motd \_ wow, you a \_ thank y |
2004/9/9 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:33430 Activity:nil |
9/9 Survey: Millions in LA County struggling with literacy (Mexifornia here we come!!!) http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1210628/posts \_ Or you can look at it the other way, millions of Californians are illiterate in Spanish, which was the original official language. I mean, there's a reason why it's called "San Jose" and not St. Joe's. \_ why should Californians care much about the language that WAS the official language nearly two centuries ago? |
2004/9/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:33431 Activity:moderate |
9/9 Let's say that the average motd reader/poster makes 25$/hour, and always reads/posts from work. Let's say that on average, there are 60 posters/readers who spend an average of an hour a day on the motd every day of the year. Then the total cost of the motd to the U.S. economy is about a half a million dollars per year. w00t! Note: these numbers are for entertainment purposes only and are clearly bullshit. \_ Yes, these numbers are clearly bullshit. You must be a grad student or something because $25/hour is roughly $50k/year and we know from previous discussion that the average here is a lot higher than that. Also, there aren't 60 unless you include the wall, nor is it likely an hour each, and an hour of work time is not lost since most of them are working more than 8 hours a day anyway. I know you're just bullshitting around but it bugs me when people who don't work think they can calculate worker costs like this. \_ do you understand the concept of average? If one person makes 50$/hour, it cancels a 0$/hour student and makes 25$/hour. I did not imply that anyone actually makes 25$/hour. \_ So you're implying that students post to the motd? FOOL! \_ I am, and I just did. |
2004/9/9 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:33432 Activity:high |
9/9 Why is Pakistan so nice to the US? What are we giving them? Funding? Weapons? Intelligence? \_ they tried to kill the general \_ only after he said he was the Dubya's best friend \_ the promise of destruction \_ money. without our money, their economy would collapse \_ I thought the deal was money for "counter-terror" which goes to buying toys for their army. \_ the only way to travel that remote countryside is with a thousand troops \_ Don't squish other people's posts! \_ The only way to post on the motd is with a thousand troops. \_ Because they are a bunch of cowards and doesn't have true democracy. Isn't it great that what we do are only supported by our puppet government or countries that doesn't have true democracy? \_ Money and legitamacy. \_ El Presidente de Pakistan sided with the U.S. post-9/11. The threat then was you were with us or against us. He did the right thing. That was when the U.S. had credibility. That was when the U.S. had credibility and also wasn't overextended. \_ You never hear about the white house complaining that Pakistan needs to be more democratic and that it was run by a dictator. So the US supports dictator, as long as they are with you. \_ We could have just told Stalin to go fuck himself during WW2. \_ Geopolitics. They need allies vs. India. |
2004/9/9 [ERROR, uid:33433, category id '18005#7' has no name! , ] UID:33433 Activity:high |
9/9 Swift boat shit: Swift boat trolls on motd for weeks. Bush national guard shit: Nada. Nothing. Zip. Yep, the motd sure is Democratic! \_ We're all afraid of getting a 4am knock on the door from Homeland Security. \_ They bother to knock? \_ A guy I know who is active in his local Green Party checked his credit to see who else had been checking it. The Department of Homeland Security had checked his credit without ever notifying him. He's really not that active in terms of protest and stuff at all. His involvement in the GP is the only remotely reasonable explanation for this. Your tax dollars at work. \_ An Indonesian friend of mine was recently deported due to the DHS "special registration" policy for people from Muslim countries. What I found very interesting is that when he was interrogated, they apparently had all of his bank account records - every single transaction listed. No warrant had ever been issued. Is that legal? \_ It is now. The computer is your friend. \_ They are better propagandists than we are. Just admit that. \_ Y'know, it's funny. It feels like we've known about all this for so long that we don't even bother saying it any more. I think therein lies the Dems' problem. We presume that people have better memories than they do, so we feel silly repeating ourselves. |
2004/9/9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:33434 Activity:nil |
9/9 In a sh script what is the significance of the "X" character here: read yn if [ X$yn = Xn ]; then \- if $y is empty and you do if $y = foo, it well generate a syntax error because the shell will see if = foo --psb \_ Thanks! --op |
2004/9/9 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:33435 Activity:high |
9/9 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20040909 pl_nm/campaign_sticker_dc Why are they angry? They are the same as hitler. The comparison is perfectly valid. \_ http://csua.org/u/8yy \_ This is a blatant lie "MoveOn.org, an independent liberal group, briefly aired advertisements that featured a photograph of Hitler transforming into Bush's image. " The bush/hitler ad was one of hundreds of entries in a contest *run* by http://moveon.org. It lost, was never even a finalist, and never aired. \_ Please note that the Dems came out immediately to denounce the sticker. Who in the RNC denounced the purple heart bandaids? |
2004/9/9 [Science/Disaster, Consumer/CellPhone, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:33436 Activity:high |
9/9 Ali Rahimi's dumb retro phone thing makes it into the NY times http://nytimes.com/2004/09/09/technology/circuits/09retr.html?8hpib \_ The bluetooth model would be cooler without the cord. \_ what's the csuamotd user id and password? \_ Go Media Whores of the CSUA, Go! \_ There's some dude in the UK who actually builds cell phones into old handsets. Can't find the guy's page anymore, though. They look pretty spiffy. -John |
2004/9/9 [Reference/History/WW2/Japan, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:33437 Activity:very high |
9/9 Oh man, only 75 protesters showed up at Malkin's speach last night, and from the picture it doesn't even look like any of them were students. http://dailycal.org/article.php?id=16037 \_ um, you're confusing active and outspoken Berkeley students of the 60s with the currently apathetic, confused, self-centered, and capitalistic minded Berkeley students of today. \_ things were pretty racist back then. people today are like, where's the racism today? Why do black people and hispanics get preferential treatment in admissions? \_ Mmm... uninformed troll... \_ wasn't it pretty racist back then? aren't BCR people today asking where's the racism today, and why do black people and hispanics get preferential treatment in admissions? \_ blacks and hispanics don't get preferential treatment in admissions. \_ yer right. Admissions from these groups have dropped a lot since the change in the UC system. BCR people are actually thinking, "Yeah, see, we were right." \_ Yes, issues of racism have gotten better, but they're definitely not gone. To think that they are is incredibly naive, immature, or stupid. \_ yer right. BCR people are worried about reverse discrimination. \_ I would say most of the protestors were students. There were 5 or 6 well behaved non student Spartacus league freaks outside of Dwinelle. The Dwinelle hallway is just not that big so there wasn't that much room for much of anything to happen. Michelle Malkin writes that there were hundreds of her supporters who couldn't get in, I don't agree. oh that photo you are talking about is from the sproul lunch thing, i'm talking about her actual speech at the BCR meeting. the protest photo was during daylight, malkin's speech was around 8pm last night. - danh \_ Whew. I was afraid the Berkeley students were growing brains or something. Nice to know I've still got plenty of idiots to laugh at. Of course, inviting Maulkin at all is pretty stupidly funny. \_ you can get a good idea of where Malkin is coming from just by reading her blog for a while http://www.michellemalkin.com . I really doubt she woke up one morning and thought "The Japanese internment was good for the motherland in ww2. I must correct this historical misunderstanding and write a book!" - danh \_ She excoriates Delta Airlines for booting a non-paying soldier from a flight in favor of a paying customer with a ticket. I wonder what she has to say about Halliburton serving spoiled food to US troops. \_ it's very smart of the BCR boys. they know if they invite some nutcase who writes a book about how the Japanese American internment was not motivated by racism at all and actually helped the ww2 war effort, she gets some more laughs by claiming they showed up voluntarily and that over half of the camp detainees were non Japanese, that people will get pissed off and show up and shout a lot. then the BCR people and their unholy David Horowitz zombie masters can include wild eyed photos of Berkeley liberals in their next fundraising newsletter. - danh \_ Americans of German and Italian descent were not ordered to report to their nearest detention facility \_ They were in the UK. -John \_ The Germans and Italians didn't attack American land in the Atlantic, nor did they have any sort of naval capability to do so (U-boats were ship-to-ship weapons); only a handful of battleships/cruisers, no real amphibious force, and no aircraft carriers \_ The point was to clarify the "over half of the camp detainees were non Japanese". Those individuals didn't have to be there if they were American citizens and didn't break any laws, unlike American citizens of Japanese descent. In any case, if it floats your boat to say that it was right to detain all Americans of Japanese descent because the Japanese COULD have invaded the U.S. and Japanese-Americans COULD turn traitor and spy for the enemey, and innocent Japanese- Americans had to be detained in the interest of the greater good, so be it, but I want to hear you say it. So far all I'm getting is "what about this, what about that", "I can understand why they did that", but no "They were right to intern Japanese- Americans!" \_ Not to defend what was done, but put yourself in the position of the guy who made that decision the other way, "we won't intern", on 8 Dec 1941. Then a Japanese invasion force arrives in 1942 and is aided by some Japanese- Americans. Internment was the conservative (and in retrospect, unnecessary) thing to do. \_ Japanese emigration has long been funded in part by the War Ministry and ultimately became a national policy in 1932. In Manchuria, for example, the line between Japanese immigrant farmer and the military has always been somewhat blurry. The May 15th incident, where elements of the Japanese Army assasinated the local Chinese warlord, involved participation by emigre Japanese farmers. The Japanese Kwantung Army also drew recruits and support from Japanese emigres in China. \_ I am not sure if you could equate Japanese emigration to Manchuria with emigration to US. Since 1895, and even before, Japan had wanted to make Manchuria part of the Japanese Empire. I don't believe you can say the same for emigrants to the US. \_ Yes, I am sure a different department in the War Ministry handled US emigration. \_ Japanese also emigrated to SE Asia to work as prostitutes. I am sure the War Ministry had a hand in that too. Not to mention emigration to Peru, etc. \_ Now, I am sure you are aware of the logical fallacy in your prostitution claim. \_ no I am not, please enlighten. \_ Emigration for prostitution is different than emigration for more legitimate reasons. \_ If prostitutes managed to emigrate without the War Ministry's blessing, so could other people, (for instance, people who emigrated to escape poverty) which puts a big hole in your theory that Japanese emigrants all emigrated in the service of Imperial Japan's interests. \_ Again, the logical fallacies fly hard and fast. 1. I never said *all* immigrants were in the service of Imperial Japan. 2. That all Japanese emigre prostitutes were unsupported by the Japanese govner- ment does not imply that no other Japanese emigres were supported by the government. \_ Was there ever a country invaded by the Japanese in WW2 where the local Japanese immigrants did not provide material or logistic support to the invading force? \_ what are the countries where the local Japanese did provide support? China? Where else? \_ Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan that I know of. Now please come up with the counter examples. \_ I am not aware of many Japanese in Hong Kong when the Japanese invaded. Taiwan was a Japanese colony since 1895. As for Korea, are you talking about about Korea before or after it became a Japanese colony. If after, it's irrelevant. \_ Hello, loser: You have just written "what about this, what about that". I am looking for "They were right to intern Japanese-Americans". \_ It's so easy to speak from your air-conditioned office in front of a computer. I envy you your innocence. \_ It's so easy to speak from your air-conditioned office in front of a computer. I don't envy your lack of reading comprehension. I am looking for "They were right to intern Japanese-Americans". If you think that way, just write it down! If you don't, write that down too! All I'm getting is "I can understand why they did that" and "what about this, what about that". \_ If I knew what I would have known then, I would have done the same thing. \_ In hindsight, was it the right thing to do? \_ Hard to say. I will allow that some innocents were caught up in the internment. Will I say that everyone interned were wrongly so? No. Would some of those interned have provided aid to the Japanese had they the opportunity to do so? I suspect so. Is the harm prevented greater than the harm created? I don't know. \_ You know you are being misleading when you say "some" innocents were caught up in the internment? \_ What's so misleading about "some"? I think "some" is somewhere between none and all. Would I believe that "most" of the Japanese immigrants here would have provided aid to a Japanese invasion force? Yes. _/ [Keep in mind we are talking about American citizens of Japanese descent, not non-citizen Japanese residents] Lieutenant Commander Kenneth Ringle, a naval intelligence officer tasked with evaluating the loyalty of the Japanese American population, estimated in a 1941 report to his superiors that "better than 90% of the Nisei [second generation] and 75% of the original immigrants were completely loyal to the United States." A 1941 report prepared on Roosevelt's orders by Curtis B. Munson, special representative of the State Department, concluded that most Japanese nationals and "90 to 98 percent" of Japanese American citizens were loyal. He wrote: "There is no Japanese `problem' on the Coast ... There is far more danger from Communists and people of the Bridges type on the Coast than there is from Japanese." \_ Who are "people of the Bridges type"? \_ Guess first, then read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Bridges \_ You mean this report? http://csua.org/u/8z4 This is just the first thing google popped up searching for "ringle japan". It certainly does not say what you claimed in your post. Your URL please? \_ http://csua.org/u/8z5 (Amazon.com page scan) Read the rest of the page, and the next page, too. Note that the point I am trying to convey to you is that the vast majority of American citizens of Japanese descent were loyal and were no threat to America. \_ Actually, you meant the page before your reference. Yours was a quote of Ringle. Now I refer you to mine, which is a part of the Ringle report itself (http://csua.org/u/8z4 Where his conclusion is 3% (or 3500 people) are actively dangerous. \_ why it makes sense to order all Americans citizens of Japanese descent to report to your nearest detention facility! \_ All Americans of Arab descent will report to your nearest re-education facility, to be held until the War On Terror is over. \_ the scary thing is, this could very well happen. \_ I doubt it. More likely is lots of Arabs are questioned by the feds and iffy ones are surveiled, as if that might not already be happening. 100% detention of any ethnic group in America is highly unlikely, because of our prior experience in this area with Japanese-American internment. Yes, even if there is a nuclear detonation, I doubt there will be 100% detention of American citizens of Arab descent, although there will certainly be plenty of hate crimes. |
2004/9/9 [Transportation/Motorcycle] UID:33438 Activity:nil |
9/9 Looking for that guesome motorcycle accident picture in Mexico where this guy's head got cut up open and you can see the blood/brain oozing out of the skull. I can't find it anymore. Thanks. \_ ob http://ogrish.com \_ the site doesn't have a search feature. sux. |
2004/9/9 [Recreation/Dating] UID:33439 Activity:high 66%like:30675 66%like:35682 |
9/9 I love you all! \_ Shut the fuck up. \_ OB: typical motd |
2004/9/9 [Recreation/Media] UID:33440 Activity:very high |
9/9 A pretty classic Daily Cal movie review about the Korean movie "TaeGukGi: THe Brothers of War." The last two paragraphs are CLASSIC. http://dailycal.org/article.php?id=15940 \_ the chinese, south and north koreans in the movie were doing a fine job of killing each other in the movie up till the americans show up, and the americans don't really save anything. i think they should run a review by someone who is the child of korean immigrants. plus the 'sappy ending' didn't even involve americans, the reviewer misses the point entirely. - danh \_ danh, have you seen it? How was it? Did you like Shwiri? -jrleek \_ I liked it. I wouldn't see it over and over. I never saw the fish movie. My favorite Korean movie is "Musa" so the fish movie is probably not violent enough for me. - danh |
2004/9/9 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:33441 Activity:very high |
9/9 Is it a particularly bad time to buy a new car right now? I need one soon, and my budget is around 35K. What makes/models would I get a decent deal on right now? 2004/2005 models are both ok with me. Thanks for any advice. \_ if you are in the luxury car market, I would recommend checking the used auctions. A lot of luxury car owners keep their car for a year until the next shiny thing comes along, and sell it. There is one in Fremont. -brain \_ It's always a bad time to buy a new car, asshole. for an extra 35K you could buy a house that much closer to where you work, and probably have money left over to actually *invest* in something instead of pissing your hard-earned money away on a killing machine that instantly goes down in value after purchase. \_ Thanks, asshole. Wave me over the next time you're on your bike so I can run you down. \_ please call me from the hospital after your first heart attack so i can laugh at you. fucker. \_ You do realize that in all likelihood, you're a sociopath, yes? It's okay, man, there's nothing wrong with being an impotent socipathic nerd. Have a nice, day. Poor guy. \_ right, because I operate a machine responsible for the deaths of 50,000 Americans, yes? Oh, wait! That's you! fuck off and die. \_ And delusional too! Nice combo ya got there, kid. Maybe you should up your meds. \_ $35K won't even make a dent in a house let alone move you to another neighborhood. Not in urban CA. \_ BMW 325/330. There should be rebates on http://edmunds.com \_ Care to tell us something about what kind of car you're looking for? \_ Sorry about that. 35K implies like entry-level luxuryish. I've got a sedan in mind. Something fairly nice, but practical. No need to be real sporty or anything, not trying to pick up chicks. \_ Infiniti G35 coupe, Cadillac CTS, Chrysler 300C is particularly a good deal. You may also want to wait for the Accord Hybrid \_ I'm of the opinion that new cars are always a waste. You can get pretty good deals on repo'd cars at the Alameda County Auction. You could get a 2002 BMW for $16,000 or so easily. check out http://www.acauction.com \_ I just bought a BMW X5 at $600 over invoice. There are supposed to be serious deals on the X3 if you are willing to swing that way. \_ Read The_Millionaire_Next_Door and put your $35k into stocks instead. Unless you are a sales guy, or are trying to pick up chicks, you don't need a $35k car. \_ Okay, I sort of lied. I'm not too much into cars myself, but my dad is getting old and wants to have a nice car for once. So this is for him, okay? Thanks. -op \_ Wow, you are a nice person. What are you doing on the motd? \_ $35k is as much as what I gave my mother over three years. \_ You know, he just asked for some product advice, not financial planning or ethics advice. It's not like he asked which casino has the best slots to spend $35K at. \_ An entry level Audi A6 fits nicely within your budget and it is a lot bigger than BMW 3 series. \_ Is bigger supposed to be a selling point? \_ It's a well-known fact that old people prefer land yachts. \_ if you loved your dad you'd buy him a motorcycle that your anal nagging annoying mother didn't let him have for the past 30 years. \_ The other advantage here is that you get your inheritence faster! |
2004/9/9 [Computer/SW] UID:33442 Activity:nil |
9/9 Save the bunny. http://www.krohm.net/bernd.htm \_ Someone please tell me he hasn't actually recieved 33,000 Euros. |
2004/9/9 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic] UID:33443 Activity:high |
9/9 Islamic militants attack Austrailian Embassy in Indonesia. As usual, they kill a whole lot of innocent civilians, and not one Australian. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=6195871 \_ It is erroneous to write "as usual ... and not one Australian". cf. Bali bombing. "oooohhh ....!" |
2004/9/9 [Uncategorized] UID:33444 Activity:nil |
9/9 "Where did YOU go fishing?" Peterson's father, Lee, said to [Laci's stepfather] Grantski on Tuesday as the families left the courtroom. "You come down here and I'll tell you where I went fishing," Grantski replied sternly, heading down the courthouse escalator. \_ And then? \_ it doesn't always end in a wrestling match at Berkeley tunnel |
2004/9/9 [Uncategorized] UID:33445 Activity:nil |
9/9 What's a good place to buy CS textbooks online? Specifially, I am looking for Distributed Computing: Fundamentals, Simulations, and Advanced Topics, 2nd ed, Wiley-Interscience, 2004, ISBN: 0-471-45324-2. \_ Compare at http://addall.com, do your own book shopping. |
2004/9/9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:33446 Activity:nil |
9/9 If Bush didn't go to War with Iraq, what would liberals be complaining about? \_ tax cuts for the rich, duh \_ Ditching Afghanistan once it was no longer newsworthy. \_ well, no, because if we didn't go into Iraq, there were a lot of people that said we should have double-downed in Afghanistan to nail bin Laden. \_ we know where he is, we're just not going to nail him till a few days before nov. 7. \_ John Ashcroft, parts of the Patriot Act, etc. \_ deciding policy based on the extremist views of a hardcore Christian evangelical minority, completely ignoring Enron fraudulenty pumping up energy rates in the west, using "cut taxes" as his one and only response to anything economic related, trying to get rid of 100 percent of the estate tax permanently, pulling environmental crap like gutting environmental laws and naming the bill 'the clear skies initiative', a culture of complete secrecy and policy of never ever apologizing in his administration, removing all civil service employment protection from the employees of the new homeland security administration. \_ This stuff is not being communicated to the mainstream. The surface talk, which is all most people see, is all about Kerry lamely defending one attack after another, and the media showing one clip of Kerry saying economy= bad and then another with Bush saying ecnomy=good. I think people are generally much more aware of Kerry's swift boat thing than the standard anti-Bush stuff that pushed Dean to the top in the beginning, because the other Dems weren't talking about it. Dean had the whole thing with the grassroots funding and anti-special interests. Kerry doesn't even really have a message these days, it's just lost in the noise. "Can do better" is NOT compelling. I have the feeling Kerry will flub the debates too. \_ RAARRAGHHAAARHGH!!!1! -Dean \_ actually it's "yeeAAAIIIIOOOURRRGHHGH!". \_ The power of Kerry compels you! The power of Kerry compels you! |
2004/9/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:33447 Activity:very high |
9/9 So CBS and 60 Minutes are so set on bringing down Bush they usef fraudulent documents!?? This is crazy. \_ The white house released their own copies and have not denied their authenticity. You're pretty damn quick to jump on noise. \_ at least describe what you are trolling with. here i'll help you out http://www.powerlineblog.com http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40376 \_ You know, I think they are fakes. -liberal \_ I think you are a fake. \_ But the blog sounds so real. We're all D00M3D!! -liberal \_ DAMN THAT LIBERAL MEDIA!!! \_ Proportional fonts notwithstanding, all military documents require the date be in caps. \_ The documents are real. \_ Have you ever served? Do you not know military protocol in regards to writing the date in only capitalized? It is like when armchair warriors do not know what Zulu time is. Format is always Zulu Time, Day, Month CAPITALIZED, year. \_ Is military protocal ALWAYS followed? Even in things like slapdash memos? The existence of a regulation != 100% compliance with it. Not saying it's not a forgery, but you should be a bit more precise (especially with badly formatted motd posts.) -John \_ Could the documents be transcriptions? \_ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9967-2004Sep9.html See, even the Post agrees. Wah, I don't want Dubya to win. -liberal \_ Well no, that is not what that article says. Reread it. \_ It says the Post's experts say it's fake, and CBS won't reveal its experts and that CBS checked it with Killian's Republican, Bush-loving superior, but the guy isn't returning calls! \_ The pdf's presented by CBS are obviously fakes. One can overlay a Microsoft Word version and they match perfectly. The question now is the motive and culprit. This story first broke on http://freerepublic.com, BTW. \_ Please provide one in /csua/tmp. I believe you, but I want to see what you've created. \_ Look here http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog \_ I am not convinced either way (yet), reading all this neat stuff about the history of fonts is fun, your liberal friends have posted responses http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/10/34914/1603 - danh \_ Thanks. That pretty much seals it for that particular memo, at least, in that it's not an original 1970s copy. The only possible explanation, for that memo at least and perhaps the others, was that it was forged or transcribed. -liberal \_ Whee! More media circus of irrelevant bullshit. \_ Call me paranoid but what if the Bush people are secretly the source of the forged documents? having this stuff come out and slathered all over the press and then proven to be fake is really benefitting Bush, because now he can still say he served his time etc, but also say "look at the dirty tricks the Democrats are up to!" so it just makes the Democrats look evil AND stupid. \_ Guilty as charged! -democrat |
2004/9/9-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/OCAML, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:33448 Activity:high |
9/9 Why are there so much politics on the motd? Isn't this the CSUA? Doesn't the C stands for something computer?? \_ Its stands for Computer Stuff and Unrelated Arguing \_ Golf clap. \_ I didn't know there even was such a thing as a golf ho, and you're telling me they've got their own VD's? \_ Yeah, let's talk about computer, or girls!! \_ When someone says something stupid, I feel I must succinctly show them the error of their ways, or at least show other reasonable people. Oh well, I'll just let stupid people keep thinking that way. \_ The CSUA as an organization doesn't manage or have anything to do with the contents of motd.public. Politics get discussed so often because it's one of those things that never ends. You never finish the argument. And unlike more esoteric subjects for debate, politics is something that anybody and everybody feels qualified to participate in. Politics is always in the news. Other things show up on motd many times but nothing more than politics. Or Perl. \_ Hey, I would talk about programming languages, but not a lot of people care. P.S. Perl is morally wrong. -- ilyas \_ Methinks he doth protest too much. --dbushong \_ SILENCE, SINNER! \_ what do you think of ocaml? \_ Ocaml is a language built around a type inference system, and I think that's like the tail wagging the dog. The bar for languages is set so low that if people see something with lambdas that's fast they get excited. It shouldn't be that way. -- ilyas \_ Have you ever looked over Java? I've generally found the structure of the language really presents itself for large SE projects. The string manipulation elements built directly into the language are pretty awesome also -- they really cut down on the dev cycle, I've found. \_ Pontification is preferable to work. \_ it wasn't like this from 1980s till the late 90s, when the failed jobless laid-off dotcomers got bitter and started to rant. \_ Obviously someone who doesn't remember the bitterness of joblessness of the early 90s... |
2004/9/9-10 [Uncategorized] UID:33449 Activity:high |
9/9 This was deleted before you had a chance to read it. \_ This motd entry intentionally left useless. \_ Filthy liars! \_ Stellaaa! \_ Adrieeeeen! |
2004/9/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:33450 Activity:moderate |
9/10 National Debt severely underreported: http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_bartlett/bartlett200409080940.asp \_ Oh, the irony. \_ How so? \_ Will everyone who thought they were getting SS in the future please raise their hand. \_ yes: .. no: .... \_ Back in high school when I researched it for a class I had an 'uh-oh' moment. \_ Well, duh. We never had a surplus during the Clinton years if you take into account SS/Medicare liabilities. But like the article says, if you are in charge of the dollar it becomes really tempting to abuse the dollar, especially since spending money gets you reelected and saving it doesn't. |
2004/9/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:33451 Activity:high |
9/10 Did Bill O'Reilly ever appologize or make a correction/explanation for his made-up "Paris Business Review" statistic? \_ No, of course not. \_ If O'Reilly shows uncertainty and weakness in this decade, the world will drift toward tragedy. \_ If Bill O'Reilly owns up to mistakes, then the terrorists have already won. \_ I think Dubya is more eloquent than you. |
2004/9/9-10 [Recreation/Stripclub, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:33452 Activity:high |
9/10 Dear CSUA Penthouse forum: when you're naked in a tub with a fat girl a nd hot a girl, should you grab the breast of the fat one or the hot one first? ok thx. \_ that's a big tub. \_ Grab them both at the same time and have a hot threesome. |
2004/9/9 [Uncategorized] UID:33453 Activity:nil |
9/9 http://www.agentprovocateur.com/lost_control/lost_control_high.php NWS |
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