8/24    So, any UCLA students know a good place to meet UCLA coeds?
        \_  WWIII and vodka
        \_ forget UCLA girls. just go to the bars/clubs.
           \_ I'd rather meet college students, but name a good bar/club
              where one can meet coeds. I don't want to meet 19 year old
              single moms from El Monte.
        \_ oh yeah, kchang and ilyas are hooked in with all the babes
           \_ The question can be asked: "Where do UCLA students hang out?"
                \_ the Bruin walk is a nice place to socialize. But really
                   the best way is to participate in activities from the
                   Wooden Center, where you can play golf for $15 and wind
                   surf for $20 or take swing dance for only $17 per quarter
                   (each quarter is 10 weeks). Activities are highly
                   subsidized by UCLA and they're really really cheap and
                   usually has a few pretty chicks. If you want to do hard
                   core sciences and enjoy staying in the computer lab 24x7,
                   MIT/Caltech/Cal is a great place to go to. But if you want
                   a well balanced life, UCLA is it       -happy ucla student
                   \_ yeah, I'm sure the 25K+ students at Cal who are not
                      doing "hard core sciences" all stay in the computer
                      lab 24x7.
                      \_ Agreed.  Most of the non-CS students I knew at Cal
                         spent the majority of their time getting laid.
                         This may explain Bitter Berkeley CS Student Sydrome.
                         \_ It's okay, because although some of them got
                            JDs and MBAs and are now running your company,
                            most of them are flipping burgers.
                         \_ this is so fucking arrogant.  Do you know
                            anything about Chemical/Mechnical Engineering?
                            Have you taken any of music theory/harmony/
                            counterpoint classes?  There are plenty of
                            demanding courses/majors on campus.
                            \_ Yeah, but we all know the ChemE people were
                               having mass orgies during "FORTRAN labs".
                         \_ It's all about the GPA. If you are willing to
                            settle for C's, you can find the free time to
                            date plenty of hotties. And my time at Cal
                            was more productive than any other.
              \_ Face down. In the gutter.
        \_ LA?

8/24    More garbage from the State Department, a waste of taxpayer money.
        Islamic Influence Runs Deep in American Culture
        http://csua.org/u/8ra

8/25    So Felicien of Canada knocked down Shevchenko of Russia in 100m hurdle.
        What's going to happen to them next?
        \_  WWIII and vodka
        \_ All-out cat fight
        \_ One circle, two women, 100 pounds of prepared Jello.
           \_ Rock the casbah.
           \_ Can you say "Tonya Harding?"
              \_ But Harding didn't hurt Kerrigan at the expense of her own
                 chance of winning a medal.
                 \_ Once people knew what happened, do you really think
                    there was any way she could have won one?
                    \_ Harding didn't intend to let the public know, did she?

8/25    My theory on the two Russian planes:  Rogue luggage handler, loaded
        up both planes with cell-phone bombs.  Called cell-phone bombs ~ 11pm.
        I don't buy simultaneous equipment failure.
        \_  WWIII and vodka
        \_ Asked airport for altitude of ground, airport gave them the wrong
           number.
           \_ You mean altitude of the airport?  How's that relevant?
              \_ He means altitude of the ground below the plane.
        \_ I believe the word you're looking for is "hypothesis."
           \_ I believe the term you want is Crackpot Wingnut Conspiracy Theory
              \_ That's Crackpot Wingnut Conspiracy HYPOTHESIS
           \_ Take more English 1A, less CS.  Thanks.
        \_ Your theory assumes Russia has good cell phone coverage. -- misha.
           \_ D'oh!
        \_ Cell phones have alarm functions.  No need to call.
           \_ Then why not just an alarm clock trigger.
           \_ You're right, that was used in the Spain bombings.

8/25    anyone ever heard of FirstSQL? thoughts?
        \_  WWIII and vodka

8/25    ilyas, what does your advisor, Judea Pearl have to say about his son,
        Daniel Pearl?
        \_ Do I know you? -- ilyas
        \_ Troll alert!  Troll alert!
           \_ Why do you hate ilyas?
              \_ I don't hate ilyas.  I feel pity for ilyas.
                 \_ Do I know you? -- ilyas
        \_ http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003095
        \_ what is it with this same religion/ethnicity advisor/student
           relationship here? Like, Chinese professors have mostly Chinese
           students, Iranian (ah ehm, PERSIAN) profs have Iranian students,
           etc etc.
           \_ what is it you find surprising about this?

8/25    Which airporter shuttle is the cheapest from Mountain View to SFO?

8/25    How many people prefer a keyboard that has a volumn control with
        play/pause/ff/back button?
        prefer: ..
          \_ as long as it works under linux
        not prefer:     .
        prefer yermom w/volume control: .
        \_ That's what the ball-gag is for.
        \_ IBM MODEL M!  MODEL M IS THE STANDARD!
        \_ Special-purpose keys make me feel like I am buying a keyboard
           for retards.
           \_ Seconded. WTF would I need that for?!
        \_ The only keyboard I've seen like this that I like is the logitech
           model that has a wheel for volume.  I don't know why there aren't
           more wheel inputs for computers in general.
           \_ http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate

8/25    Islamic terrorists will bring the Internet to a halt tomorrow.
        Kaspersky says so, it must be true.  Duck and cover, it's the
        AOL Riot for real!  -John
        \_ Because all the 133t h2X0rs live in Afgani caves!

8/25    [ don't edit other people's posts, bitch. -- ilyas ]
        \_ Just nuke the whole motd ilyas.  -meyers
        \_ Do you have sand in your vagina?
        \_ ilyas is an asshole
           \_ I am just using the inverse of the golden rule.  I treat others
              how others treat me.  If people don't delete or modify posts of
              others, there would be no problem. -- ilyas
              \_ ilyas censors others who aren't even remotely involved in
                 a possibly intentional removal of one of his posts.  How is
                 this an inverse of the golden rule?  When in doubt, throw
                 a fit?  -meyers
              \_ Don't fall for the old "eye for an eye" mistake.
                 \_ A munge for a munge makes the whole motd boring.
                    \_ Yes, that's the whole point.  I am not a huge Gandhi
                       fan. -- ilyas
              \_ That's one to remember:
                 "I am using the inverse of the golden rule."
           \_ Why, that's not the right description.  He's too serious.
                Did you edit his posts?
        \_ repeated motd mudging is highly frowned upon by politburo. I
           believe this is enough to initiate the squish process.
           \_ The politburo never contacted me about my behavior being a
              problem.  If they do, I will bring up what others are doing, and
              I am sure we can come up with some compromise that will make
              everyone happy.  Like a logged motd.  Heh.  Funny how when
              someone modifies my post it's not considered 'repeated motd
              munging.'  -- ilyas
              \_ You're not one of the golden people so it's ok to fuck with
                 your posts.  If it was someone else's it would be a
                 squishable offense for sure.
                 \_ All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal
                    than others.

8/25    Does anyone know what Kerry's polling margin over Bush is in
        CA, NY, or IL?  What Bush's margin over Kerry is in TX?  I know,
        "huge" or "double digit".  Anything more specific?
        \_ Insurmountable!
        \_ 18% in NY, 13% in IL, 12% in CA
           \- we are on our way to a landslide victory for Dubya in California.
              See URL below. -troll
              \_ heh, too bad you didn't actually read the content in the
                 link.  Train harder, grasshopper.
        \_ http://www.electoral-vote.com
           \_ Thanks.  This is exactly what I am looking for.

8/25    About the whole 527 thing.  Your opinions:  If Bush directly addressed
        the swift boat group and asked them to stop, would that violate the
        law?  Would the Kerry campaign then claim it violated the law?
        \_ Violate what law?
           \_ Just a WAG, but Section 527?
        \_ Uh.. How and why?  Bush is an imbecile for not having condemned
           them immediately.  Big political blunder.
           \_ Right... Kerry is sinking and it's just going to get worse.
              Kerry can't even handle the Swifties, how would he plan
              to handle the terrorists?  Ask the UN to rule them illegal?
              \_ Sinking?  Have you even looked at the recent polls?
              \_ Wow, how many times do you intend to censor my replies
                 to you? You are an idiot and a coward to boot.
                 \_ Am I supposed to feel threatened by a twit too
                    stupid to properly enter text into the MOTD.
                    I welcome comments from leftist, they always
                    are so naive.
                    \_ We welcome comments from righties, they always
                       are so naive.
                       \_ mmm.  Kindergarden.
                          \_ I know you are, but what am I?
                    \_ Yeah, you "welcome" them so much, you delete them
                       instead of replying. You are a coward and a fool.
                       Once, anyone could have done, even by mistake.
                       Twice is a coincidence. The third time, I knew
                       you were just trying to run from the subject.
                       \_ LOL you have the wrong person.  Get over
                          yourself already.
           \_ A blunder only among you and your ultra left friends.  Get
              out more.  Talk to moderates.
              \_ Most moderates believe Kerry. The whole Swift Boat thing
                 has hurt Bush's standing with swing voters. It was only
                 red meat for Republicans, who have a pyschological need
                 to justify voting for AWOL coward over a war hero.
                 to justify voting for an AWOL coward over a war hero.
                 \_ Where as Democrats do it because that's what they
                    prefer.
                    \_ Well, yes that is true actually.
                    \_ Well, yes that is true actually. -liberal
                 \_ Yea you have the John Stewart demographic covered.
        \_ No candidate is allowed to directly address/contact a 527 for
           any reason, pro or con.  It is against the law, period.  Kerry
           contacted the SBVs and yes that was a violation of the law.
           \_ I really doubt that "contacting" them via the media while
              condemning their message would hold water. Remember we
              have a First Amendment still mostly intact left.
              \_ Um, no we don't.  McCain-Feingold gutted it (or when the
                 SCOTUS ruled on it that officially gutted it).
                 \_ Oh, please.  Freedom of Speech is still alive and well;
                    conflicts of interest, however, are finally not being
                    tolerated.
                 \_ File a lawsuit then claiming that the Kerry campaign
                    violated the law by contacting the SBVFT then and
                    watch it laughed out of court. It doesn't even pass
                    the smell test and you know it. Or at least you
                    should know it. I am seriously starting to question
                    the sanity of some of the motd rightwingers.
                    \_ BUSH HAS MADE US SAFER FROM TERRA!!!!

8/25    Is it possible to make a bootable DOS floppy in Win2K?
        \_ http://bootdisk.com
           \_ Thanks. -op
        \_Yes.  Right-click on the drive and follow the instructions.
           \_ I don't think that makes a bootable floppy -op
              \_ agreed
                 \_ It can on XP.  It's been a while since I used 2K.
                    \_ It's been a while since I used floppies.
                        \_ Me too. I sure wish motherboard companies
                           would provide bootable iso images for
                           their BIOS updates. Floppies suck.
                           I made a bootable CD using the win95 boot
                           floppy image in order to flash my bios.
                           It worked. :) -op

8/25    More Japan Today funnies.  Apparently no one in Japan knows who
        the heck Bobby Fischer is.
        http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=popvox&id=502

8/25    Looking for a cheap/reliable domain registry company.
        \_ godaddy
           \_ their webserver uses windoze. try http://000domains.com
           \_ my workplace had a few complaints go to godaddy for some
              email marketing (not unsolicited bulk email) a couple years
              ago and had the domains pulled without any checks.  So
              they've got bad feelings (the guy's wife intervened to get
              our domain live again because she thought he was being a jerk
              about it)... that being said, I have a couple domains with them
              still.
        \_ What do you guys think about dotster?
        \_ I recommend Gandi--they're great.  -John

8/25    Anybody use a Tivo with Comcast Digital Cable? Does it work well?
        I can't get a dish for several reasons, however would like a DVR
        and Comcast's DVR is taking forever.  -shac
        \_ Do you know if Comcast's DVR records the original digital
           data stream?  Would the Tivo record the redigitized analog
           data stream?
        \_I have the comcast dvr, is there any way to transfer movies directly
          off of the internal HD to say my computer without removing the HD?
          Anyone know how the shows are encoded?  -scottyg

8/25    This just struck me as hilarious.  Of Max Cleland: "I tried to
        accept that letter and he [Cleland] would not give it to me.  He
        would not face me.  He kept rolling away from me.  He's quite
        mobile."
        \_ URL?
        \_ So is it true the Cleland blew himself up with his own grenade and
           didn't take any enemy fire when he got the injuries that led to his
           triple-amputation?
           \_ Not a clue, though that would be hilarious too.
              \_ Triple amputees sure are hilarious, yessirree.
                 \_ Yep, a scene out of your best B-comedy.  I can see the
                    hand of the Farrelly brothers.
           \_ Ah, apparently it was another soldier who dropped it, though
              Cleland thought it was his own grenade for many years:
              http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/local/7218941.htm
              \_ Wasn't Bobdole also injured by his own weapon?
                 \_ Bobdole doesn't like your tone of voice.
                 \_ According to http://bobdole.org, his upper right back and right
                    arm wounds were caused by enemy machine gun fire.
                 \_ Bobdole cannot believe that Bobdole will only be
                    remembered for schilling Viagra.
                    \- get off Bob Dole's motd.

8/25    Dear god, I agree with the Nazis about something:
        "Schoep, who's from Litchfield, Minnesota, says the National
         Socialists are protesting the "corrupt dictatorship" of
         President Bush."
        \_ I hate Illinois Nazis. And the ones from Minnesota too.
                \_ Calling all party members in the tri-state area
                        \_ I've always loved you!
        \_ So, in other words, the Nazis agree with Jewish liberals. There's
           irony for you.
           \_ Self destruction is a common trait among Jewish liberals.  I
              believe it has something to do with a cultural sense of self-
              hatred.  "They're always trying to kill us so we must be bad
              people".  Something like that.
           \_ I met a Jewish Nazi skinhead once. I kid you not. At a Chateau
              Party. I am still trying to figure that one out.
              \_ that's still not as ironic as the black white supremacist.
              \_ Well maybe he kid you.
                 \_ I hope so. He was hanging out with another azzhole wearing
                    a "Screwdriver" t-shirt, so I don't think so, but maybe
                    it was all some kind of sophisticated joke that I
                    didn't get.
           \_ I'm Jewish?  That's news to me! -op
              \_ You're not sure if you're Jewish?
              \_ *shrug* All I'm saying is that lots of Jewish liberals hate
                 Bush, too.
        \_ Nazis.  I hate these guys.

8/25    Did ilyas get so upset that he broke The Net?
        \_ The motd rarely upsets me, I am not very emotionally invested in it,
           thank God.  However, out of all the bad choices available to me, I
           think retaliation is best.  Talk to people who munge the motd or
           let the topic die already. -- ilyas
           \_ As with most self-described libertarians, "responsibility for
              your own actions" is just another empty catchphrase.
              \_ Are you slow or something?  I sign my name, I own what I say,
                 and what I do.  Nor do I think it wrong.  I am tired of
                 saying the same thing over and over again.  Motd is
                 publicly writable.  If you fuck with people's posts, it will
                 become boring fast.  -- ilyas

8/25    For soem reason, I find this headline funny:
        Dr. Kbler-Ross, Who Changed Perspectives on Death, Dies at 78

8/25    Which map web sites give you GPS information, and can you convert
        GPS information to X/Y for plotting purpose? ok thx
        \_ Better yet, which map web sites give you longitude and latitude
           so you can figure these things out universally?

8/25    Why are field hockey sticks so short? Was the length determined
        way back when people were shorter?
        \_ Yes.  When field hockey was invented, the average height was about
           4'5".

8/25    Is there such a PC program that lets you map a key on the keyboard
        to the left button of your mouse?               -mouse finger pain
        \_ use anir mouse. it works. google it. -ex mouse finger pain

8/25    Does anyone know of any good way of donating software that is no
        longer being used?  E.g. I have an old copy/license/manual of
        Oracle 8 for NT.  I was going to just toss it, but I thought I'd
        check first to see if it could be used anywhere? (I imagine that
        newer versions of free databases might be better already, but I'm
        interested in the answer since I have other CDs/products that I
        could also get rid of). Thanks!
        \_ I wouldn't inflict Oracle 8 on my worst enemy, but that's just me.
        \_ The licenses for commercial software are usually non-transferable.
           As for Oracle, anyone seriously considering using it for production
           should buy a support contract which probably also entitles them to
           the latest versions of the software anyways while the developers
           already have free or almost free access to the Oracle software for
           development and testing purposes.
           \_ Thanks for the info! - OP
           \_ http://www.accrc.org should take it.
        \_ When I wanted to get rid of my NetWare 4.0, I just dropped it off
           at the dropbox of a public library.  Don't know what they'll do
           about it.