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| 2004/7/9-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32192 Activity:moderate |
7/8 Oops--massive Mozilla/Firefox flaw:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1621463,00.asp
Guess that's one reason NOT to migrate to Mozilla.
\_ and another reason not to use windows
\_ Does this affect Netscape 6.x/7.x, as it seems they are Mozilla?
If so, does one just apply the patch extension to Netscape 6.x/7.x,
or can/should one download an entirely new version, like
Firefox 0.9.2?
\_ op here, URL http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250180
\_ (replying to myself)
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250180
says the bug affects "Trunk". Netscape 7.x is branched from
Mozilla 1.4 ... so this would imply it has the problem, unless
the Netscape people fixed it themselves a long time ago.
\_ (replying to myself)
I got over my laziness and downloaded a 7.1 just now.
It has the same bug. I applied the official xpi patch
("What Mozilla users should know ...") and it works.
\_ Although technically this is a problem in Windoze, why doesn't
Mozilla test against it, given it is SOOO obvious? Think it as
an malicious bug left by M$, shoulnd't Mozilla be more vigilant?
\_ http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163767
From the above link it looks like the suggestion to secure this
hole was made in 2002, but they got into a long discussion and
after the shell: vulnerability was published a couple days ago,
they finally did a small fix for that.
\_ See? This never would have happened in a safe source product like
IE.
\_ ob The big hole from last week wasn't fully patched, and MS
still officially recommends you turn off JavaScript while it's
being fixed.
\_ That's an entirely different issue and it's only been a
week. The mozilla problem has been public for 2 years and
they decided to ignore it until people outside their nice
warm little cocoon complained about it. Kinda screws up
that whole theory about more eyes = better code when the
hands don't do a thing to fix what the eyes saw. This is
just pure laziness and a huge problem with the "scratch
an itch" concept. I guess no one had an itch for the last
2 years to fix a known hole big enough to throw an
elephant herd through. |
| 2004/7/9 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:32193 Activity:very high |
7/9 Bush military records destroyed. Bush has friends everywhere, it seems.
Time for Fox Mulder - the Truth is out there!
http://tinyurl.com/25ffq
\_ So the payroll record is supposed to prove he's AWOLed for those
couple of months? I guess they dock his pay?
\_ This isn't a court of law. This is politics. He's being
evasive and misdirecting on a question that should have
a simple answer.
\_ Actually, yes. Something like AWOL would have a financial,
as well as disciplinary action.
\_ Oh no! A politician who wields the power to recreate the past
in his image. When will the madness stop!?
\_ He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls
the present controls the past. -Saying of The (Grand Old) Party |
| 2004/7/9 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:32194 Activity:insanely high |
7/8 "No analyst is going to say they changed their view as a result of
specific pressure. No analyst is going to admit that. But there is no
doubt and this report reflects the fact that there was tremendous
pressure inside the agency. As a matter of fact, [CIA Director George
J.] Tenet himself said, and this report reflects that, that he was
told by analysts that they were under tremendous pressure. And what
Tenet said is, well, in that case, just try to ignore that pressure.
But the pressure was clearly there." -Carl Levin, a senior Democrat on
the Senate intelligence committee today
\_ just wait--soon we'll be hearing from the GOP that the whole
thing was the fault of the Democrats because they failed in their
responsibility as the minority party to question the actions of the
majority and mindlessly followed to avoid looking unpatriotic.
for once, i'd be in agreement.
\_ Further proof of motd axiom #4: anything a democrat does, evil.
Anything a republican does, good.
\_ careful, the poster you're responding to just might be a
Democrat
\_ if you mean that I hate the republicans, greens, socialists
and libertarians even *more* than I hate the democrats,
then yes, i guess i'm a democrat. -above poster
\_ I ve never understood the hatred of librarians.
\_ I ve never understood the hatred of libertarians
Do you just hate them in their capacity as a bookish
voting block? Or do you have a problem with their
'live and let live' mentality? -- ilyas
\_ I'm going to assume you mean "libertarian."
I hate libertarians because it has been my
observation from reading stuff on their website,
reading publications of the self-proclaimed
libertarian cato institute, and reading motd
libertarian posts that while they claim to
care about freedom, they're really just for
corporate socialism. When it comes to individual
freedoms, i agree with libertarians, but it seems
that their biggest issue is not with the freedom
of individuals but with the "freedom" of corporations
who in many cases have more power than any but
a handful of nations to do whatever they want.
This is a very simliar arguement to saying that
the "freedom" of governments must be preserved
by letting them oppress poeple, because that's what
governments do and they should have to the right to
do it. when the government decides it has the right
to imprison citizens indefinitely based on secret
evidence, the libertarians are mostly silent, but
when the goverment tries to limit a corporations
"right" to kill people and cause birth defects
with pollution, they're up in arms.
\_ Some idiot changed my post. Anyways, I don't
know where you get this thing about libertarian
silence. Libertarians don't like the elements
of Bush policy involving the patriot act and
indefinite detention etc. I certainly don't, and
said so before.
As for corporations, there are big
differences between corps and governments. Corps
can't use force, for example. Thus, while corps
are worth watching, governments are worth watching
ten times more. I think it's a matter of picking
your villains. There is no question in my mind
that corps do bad things. But governments do bad
things too, and their bad things are much worse.
Look at Mogabe's [sp?] government, for example.
-- ilyas
\_ Corporations can't use force in the way of guns
(not counting mercenaries in countries we dont
like), but they can use almost any other kind
of force. Their legal resources dwarf the
agerage citizen's. They can basically buy laws
to make the governement do what they like
(within limits). Ask someone who's had their
home taken away by eminent domain to build
a shopping mall whether the corporation or the
government used force. Ask the good citizens
of Bohpal if a corporation's power is less
dangerous than their government.
differences between corps and governments. Corps
can't use force, for example. Thus, while corps
are worth watching, governments are worth watching
ten times more. I think it's a matter of picking
your villains. There is no question in my mind
that corps do bad things. But governments do bad
things too, and their bad things are much worse.
Look at Mogabe's [sp?] government, for example.
-- ilyas
\_ I don't think you ll have a lot of luck
blaming eminent domain abuses on corps.
That's a government flavor of evil: "hey if
we have a shopping mall on this land instead
of this old grandma's home, we ll get a lot
more taxes!"
Libertarians really don't like eminent
domain abuses, too. Also, you seem to have
\_ My great uncle's house was taken by
eminent domain supposeadly to build a
road. He then found out the county was
planning to sell the land to a
politically-connected developer so the
developer would essentially be able to
buy commercial land at residential
prices. My G. Uncle sued to force them
to build a road there. This is in Clark
County, NV. There's a similar situation
in NJ where Atlantic City tried to take
someone's house to build a road to a
parking lot for a Trump casino. Is it
really government being evil, or is it
the power of corporations corrupting
government?
I guess you'd say government is
dangerous because it wields power, while
I'd say corporations are dangerous
because they wield government.
a weird way of assigning blame. If the
system is venal, who are more to blame: the
folks who buy or the folks who are bought?
I d say the latter, because if they acted
morally, the former would be SOL. -- ilyas
\_ In the current circumstance, the acts
themselves are not _illegal_ on the part
of the buyers; they're still unethical
and immoral, and they contribute to the
continuation of the corruption. It breaks
the spirit of the Social Compact to game
the system.
\_ If the buyer is giving a kickback to
someone in government, it is very
illegal (though potentially hard to
proove).
\_ So now back to my original question,
Did anything I say sound
unreasonable to you? -- ilyas
\_ I think that's ok. this is an axiom of the *motd*, not
reality. |
| 2004/7/9 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:32195 Activity:moderate |
7/8 Yet more proof that BUSH LIED!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040709/D83NB0AO0.html
\_ You know before the war I remember reading about how the CIA
was dragging its feet and refusing to admit that Iraq
had WMDs which everyone else knew to be true. Funny how now
the CIA is now being blamed for the exact opposite.
\_ Slam Dunk Tenet!
\_ Yeah, but it seems we are among the very few who had that long
a memory span. But it says even more about the media, who
have access to their own archives. They are quite audacious. |
| 2004/7/9 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:32196 Activity:nil |
7/8 This is amusing.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39347 |
| 2004/7/9-11 [Consumer/CellPhone] UID:32197 Activity:high |
7/9 Poll, enter your favourite/least favourite cell phone brands:
Nokia: +6260 +8960 (love it!!!)
Motorola: ---T720i (hate it)
LG : Suprisingly good phones for not too much money.
Nokia : Stop making tiny candybar phones! Make some damn clamshells!
Motorola: t720 was a steaming turd, but most have very good RF.
Samsung: cheap, sturdy, long battery life, smallest flip phone
Panasonic: 3-yr-old TX210, Can store multiple numbers and one e-mail
addr under the same name entry. Has just the basic functions
that I need and no fancy stuff. LCD can switch between green
and amber manually as well as when it recognizes a caller ID,
which was cool back then. Ring tone is loud enough even
placed in a handbag. (My wife's Nokia isn't loud enough.)
Motorola phones used to be great in the mid 90s. Then they started
to suck a lot. Battery life sucks. GUI sucks. Everything sucks
about it. Typical American engineering. Buy Nokia.
\_ Motorola phones have been gaining some market share lately
after a long decline. The triplets (V300, V500, V600) seemed
to be selling well. Have you taken a second look lately?
I work at Motorola, but I do systems, not phones.
I still use my first phone, a clunky old cracked startac
with a broken antenna which once fell into a river. Ok,
it was in my pocket when I jumped into the river to pull
my canoe to shore. So, you can see I don't know too much
about phones, except what I read and heard.
\_ When is the V710 going to be released? -me and 1 million other
people with no life.
\_ no idea, but if you use service from verizon, sprintpcs,
china unicom or kddi (japan), and the service sucks,
it could be because I've been slacking off.
\_ I have verizon and have great service. I guess you
can call in sick next week.
\_ I've dropped my Nokia candybar phone too many times to count. It's
been stepped on, danced on, and juggled, and it still works. It's
the Volvo of cell-phones: boxy, but safe.
\_ Ditto here. My 6310 has taken worlds of abuse, and still works.
I miss usable bluetooth, though. -John
\_ the 8260 my gf had started failing all over. I started
scavenging my old 8260 to replace the speaker, screen, and
finally, the base unit itself. My gf is the ultimate test for
phone durability. The phone now has screen that goes away at
times as well as the speaker. But yeah, candybar style in
general seem sturdier. I doubt my sanyo clamshell will last
a month in her care.
\_ on the 82XX series, I found that slipping a small piece of
paper right above the screen seemed to fix the screen problem.
I love the Sanyo clamshell I just got so far, except for
small problem of dropped calls even with full signal.
Motorola: t720 was a steaming turd, but most have very good RF.
Samsung: cheap, sturdy, long battery life, smallest flip phone
Panasonic: 3-yr-old TX210, Can store multiple numbers and one e-mail
addr under the same name entry. Has just the basic functions
that I need and no fancy stuff. LCD can switch between green
and amber manually as well as when it recognizes a caller ID,
which was cool back then. Ring tone is loud enough even
placed in a handbag. (My wife's Nokia isn't loud enough.)
Motorola phones used to be great in the mid 90s. Then they started
to suck a lot. Battery life sucks. GUI sucks. Everything sucks
about it. Typical American engineering. Buy Nokia.
\_ Motorola phones have been gaining some market share lately
after a long decline. The triplets (V300, V500, V600) seemed
to be selling well. Have you taken a second look lately?
I work at Motorola, but I do systems, not phones.
I still use my first phone, a clunky old cracked startac
with a broken antenna which once fell into a river. Ok,
it was in my pocket when I jumped into the river to pull
my canoe to shore. So, you can see I don't know too much
about phones, except what I read and heard.
\_ When is the V710 going to be released? -me and 1 million other
people with no life.
\_ no idea, but if you use service from verizon, sprintpcs,
china unicom or kddi (japan), and the service sucks,
it could be because I've been slacking off.
\_ I have verizon and have great service. I guess you
can call in sick next week.
\_ I love my two motorola v66 models (wife uses older one),
though after almost 3 years the battery is starting to fade on
one. Wiating for them to top this model... maybe with upcoming
v1000. Why are all the phones getting HEAVIER?? lament...
\_ How are GUIs in LG and Samsung phones?
\_ Haven't tried LG, but samsung's is better than sanyo. But I have
yet to see any other company make gui even comparable to nokia.
\_ I dunno, there were quite a few things about my Motorola v120c
that I liked better than my Nokia 3160
\_ I have an old LG VX1. The GUI is a little clunky in some places
but not bad once you get the hang of it. It's also nice to be
able to silence the ringer without opening the phone. I've heard
they improved the GUI slightly with the VX4400 and VX6000, but
I haven't used one of those.
\_ I like the GUI in the Samsung. The keys are so small that some
times I hit the wrong one when I am browsing the net, and I
have very small hands for a guy. But other than that, it is
great I have a A530s.
\_ I really like my LG phones. You should take a look at them.
I had an old Nokia, their software (if you can even call it
at that) is crap. Too many features to be desired (call
with no caller id does not even record a time, no entry in
missed calls, so frustrating) I then tried a Motorola
phone, the 720 or something, its software leaves much to be
desired, it's not bad, but just doesn't feel nice, the
phone itself also feels kind of flimsy. Then I tried the
LG-6000, boy, its software is almost perfect. I've been
using it for 6 month now, and I can't really think of
anything to complain about. They seem to have thoroughly
designed every aspect of it, and it's very very nice. The
hardware is nice, the software is first rate. It's a lean,
mean phone that has everything you want in a phone. If you
are looking for a PDA/phone combo, it's not it, but if you
just want a good cell phone, this is it. You will not
regret it. When UI is done right, it becomes 2nd nature. |
| 2004/7/9-11 [Computer/HW/IO] UID:32198 Activity:high |
7/9 Help, I use my Kinesis keyboard so often that some of the letters are
starting to fade, what should I do?
\_ do you really still look at them? (I'm assuming that those are the
frequently used keys, which should mean you should just "know"
where they are?)
\_ Sharpie
\_ one time I thought it would be cool to write all over my chest
with a sharpie. when I woke up the next morning, all the ink
was gone, and i think i may have absorbed it into my skin.
i felt pretty odd. i'm not sure this is good for you.
\_ night elves drank it. you're ok except for the little bit of
your soul each one took with the ink.
\_ Are the night elves female?
\_ You might be thinking of the Wood Fairy. She comes
out of the TV every night and is the cause of morning
wood.
\_ Then she hasn't done any real good.
\_ one time i fell asleep drunk and i woke up with sharpie ink
all over my face and body.
\_ Dude! Its like that one Sopranos episode!
\_ I find sharpie doesn't work that well for keyboards. I used
to use it to write Korean letters on the keys to help me
type in Korean, but it would always rub off after a week or
so. Stickers work better. -jrleek
\_ why not use a sharpie, then put transparrent tape over it?
\_ why not go completely ghetto and put tape around the
broken spot on your glasses, too? how's the pocket
protector?
\_ in case you're wondering, my M, B, then D keys are starting to
rub off. I'm guessing that they occur most frequently in the
English language or in Java, I don't know. How about your keyboard,
which keys rub off first?
\_ :,w,q
\_ Java, maybe, but not English where "e" is the most common letter.
\_ eiasdklcbnm, in no particular order... just looking at my kb
\_ s,t,f,u
\_ S, X, C, left CTRL. I use emacs.
\_ stupid emacs user -- vi camp
\_ pico!
\_ DUDE. ED!
\_ My spacebar is worn out!
\_ too much usenet |
| 2004/7/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:32199 Activity:high |
7/9 Senate Report Sees No Formal Iraq-Qaeda Ties.
http://csua.org/u/84t (Yahoo! News)
\_ How is it possible to have a formal tie to an organization such
as Al Qaeda that has no official structure?
\_ "there is no evidence" == "We just don't know! There isn't
anything confirming it, or anything to knock it down." -Dick Cheney
\_ So, I am curious, does this kind of reasoning convince anyone?
\_ Democrat _____ evil, Republican _____ good.
\_ "There is a relationship" -Dubya
"There were definitely links" -Dick
"no established formal relationship" -Senate report
\_ Before Cheney claimed the link was neither proven nor disproven
he claimed it had "pretty much been confirmed". When confronted
about the contradiction he lied. The lie occurred during
a CNBC interview, I believe.
\_ the problem is, there have been Iraq-Qaeda links; those *are*
pretty much confirmed
\_ Does anybody like Cheney? Would you Bush lovers be happy with
President Cheney?
\_ it doesn't matter what they say now. if cheney becomes
president, their republican media spinmasters will declare
him to be a Great Leader, and they will obey.
\_ Cheney rocks. I'd vote for any ticket with Cheney on it.
I might even consider something as sickening as a Kerry/
Cheney ticket if Kerry had cancer or something.
\_ No, all they have to say is, "Do you trust Cheney or
Kerry? Who do you trust to ensure the U.S. doesn't get
all blowed up?"
\_ So what? Security isn't important?
\_ I have met both Cheney and Kerry (and Gore). I am
not sure I trust any of them, but in general they
get too much and too little credit at the same
time.
\_ FWIW, One of my few republican friends is voting for Bush bc
of Cheney.
\_ If you were nicer, you'd have more friends. We're
everywhere, we just don't tell you because you're all
such bastards about it. |
| 2004/7/9-11 [Uncategorized] UID:32200 Activity:kinda low |
7/9 What's a good multipage print program besides enscript? My sysadm
is too lazy to install it and I don't know what other progs are
available ok thx.
\_ And your OS would be?
\_ linux
\_ a2ps
\_ Wow. Looks like a2ps > enscript.
\_ it is not that hard to install enscript into your own account. |
| 2004/7/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:32201 Activity:nil |
7/9 U.S. NEWS obtains all classified annexes to report on Abu Ghraib
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/usinfo/press/prison.htm
The second half is where it gets good. |
| 2004/7/9-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Health/Sleeping, Industry/Startup] UID:32202 Activity:nil |
7/9 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20040709/od_nm/life_naps_dc |
| 2004/7/9-10 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:32203 Activity:moderate |
7/9 This is a report that should concern all patriotic Americans,
no matter what their political affiliation:
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001002.html
\_ Like duhhh, apparently you've never been in either civil service
or in the army. Where did you think the backronim "snafu" for
Situation Normal, All Fucked Up comes from? This is also why
tax breaks are good, because private citizens and enterprise
are a lot more efficient at containing costs than the U.S. Gov't.
Welcome to reality.
\_ All Hail the Special Skills Draft! All geeks to the Pentagon, hut
hut!
\_ Why would they want a bunch of smelly snarly know nothings?
They want highly skilled technical people. A very tiny number
of motd readers have to even think about this. |
| 2004/7/9-11 [Reference/BayArea] UID:32204 Activity:high |
7/9 Is there a place in Berkeley/Oakland I can get Tshirts custom
printed? I knew a place ten years ago that did this but I have
completely forgotten it. Thanks for any recommendations. --chris
\_ Berkeley Steamworks
\_ haha. very funny. --chris
\_ I failed to see why this is funny...
\_ We find it funny because we're not gay like you.
\_ Check out cafepresse (cafepress?) .com |
| 2004/7/9-11 [Computer, Science, Academia/GradSchool] UID:32205 Activity:low |
7/9 Subject: Graduate School
A copy of your e-mail to our Admissions Office has been forwarded to
me. I will send you information about our graduate program,
however, I wanted to be sure that Crop Science was the department
you are interested in. Your e-mail indicated a bachelors in
computer science.
Please let me know if your request was directed to the right
department. |
| 2004/7/9-10 [ERROR, uid:32206, category id '18005#7.575' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:32206 Activity:very high |
7/9 http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=40424 Good news! We're getting less liberal! \_ Any direction from here would be less liberal. \_ We should take the vote away from women and put the blacks back in chains! Damn liberalism! |
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