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2004/7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:31119 Activity:kinda low
7/2     Does EECS scan student users for porn browsing?
        \_ Yes.
2004/7/2 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:31120 Activity:kinda low
7/1     Battlefield Vietnam is AWSOME AWSOME AWSOME! Nice dense forest where
        you can hide, vehicles slow down in muddy terrain, good jungle
        sound, GREAT graphics in the airplane/helicoptor, etc. They
        should've charged $70 for the game.
        \_ Do you get to take 3 scratches in 4 months, go home, tell lies
           about those left behind and call yourself a war hero 30 years
           later?  That would be "AWSOME!" and worth $70.
           \_ No, better! You get to remain a pencil-necked geek who takes
              potshots at people who actually risked their lives in war!
              Dood, yr AWSOME!
           \_ The man VOLUNTEERED for VIETNAM. He REQUESTED hazardous
              (relative to sitting on a carrier) swift boat duty. He
              risked his life under fire to save his men. Fuck off,
              troll.
2004/7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:31121 Activity:kinda low
7/1     What happened to /ftp?  Is it down?  Thx.
        \_ It's unavailable until scotch's network gets fixed.
           \_ What happenned to scotch's network? And is there any indication
              of who is likely to fix it and when?
2004/7/2-4 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:31122 Activity:low
7/2     I am looking for a reliable RM/RMVB to VCD/DVD-based MPEG
        converter.  Any recommendations?  I have tried several found
        through Google, and all of them can only decode some of the
        real video files I have...
        \_ I'd like to know what you've tried.  TINRA? EO Video?
2004/7/2 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:31123 Activity:very high
7/2     Sorry Ralph!  Guess the GOP couldn't help you in Arizona!
        http://csua.org/u/80s (yahoo news link)
        \_ you can still write his name in
           \_ "Writing Ralph Nader's name in" should probably be in the
              dictionary as a reference for the word "deluded."
        \_ Screw you Democrats.  A vote for Ralph is a vote for Ralph.  We
           will not stand by forever with your one-party, two-name system.
2004/7/2 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:31124 Activity:very high
7/2     Why isn't Jackass:The Movie considered a documentary? All this talk
        of F/911 being the first documentary to debut at #1 and being the
        highest grossing feature length documentary.
        \_ 1 : being or consisting of documents : contained or certified in
               writing <documentary evidence>
               writing
           2 : of, relating to, or employing documentation in literature or art
            broadly : FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE <a documentary film of the war>
;
            broadly : FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE
           2 : of, relating to, or employing documentation in literature or
               art; broadly : FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE
           \_ Jackass sounds like a documentary to me then!
              \_ F911 doesn't/
        \_ By that logic, every movie is a documentary, since it documents
           what the actors are doing.
           \_ I'm assuming you haven't seen Jackass.
              \_ If you can equate Jackass with F9/11, can I equate Hannity
                 and Rush with Bozo the Clown?
                 \_ Bad dodge! Btw, IMDB has Jackass down as a documentary
                    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0322802
                    \_ A bunch of retards on the Intarweb say it, it must be so!
                    \_ A bunch of retards on the Intarweb say it, it must be
                       so!
                       \_ and Yahoo
                          http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/jackass.html
                          \_ You're still being deliberately obtuse by
                             equating F9/11 with Jackass.  No one mistakes
                             "Jackass" for a documentary, although apparently
                             that was the category a couple of websites decided
                             to stuff it into for lack of a better term.
                             F9/11 is a documentary about current events, like
                             it or not.  It is based primarily on news footage
                             of real events.  Jackass is completely staged.
                             Get real.
                             \_ I'm assuming you haven't seen F/911 either...
                             \_ Based is an interesting word in this case.
                                If only it was based on and presented facts,
                                then it would be a documentary.
        \_ I haven't seen F911 yet, but I want to see it in a reasonably
           conservative area.  What's the most conservative place in the SFBA?
           \_ I recommend Castro Valley. I dated a girl from there... they have
              a rodeo and lots of Bush Lovers there.
           \_ Why?  Any particular reason?  Are you scared some volvo-driving
              latte-sipping New York Times-reading scary liburul is going to
              solicit you for gay butt love?
              \_ I don't drink latte -straight BMW-driving liberal.
                 \_ But you're cool with the gay butt love?
                    \_ No, but if you're looking I recommend Castro St.
              \_ No.  I'm a left-liberal and want to see what the other half
                 thinks of it, rather than going to see it with a bunch of
                 people going whoop-whoop.
                 \_ Most conservatives won't go and see this "movie". We
                    have better things to do with our $9 than waste time
                    watching some twit's lame over-hyped ramblings.
                    \_ And you know that this movie is some "twit's
                       lame over-hyped ramblings" because you saw the
                       movie or because you listened to some twit's
                       lame over-hyped ramblings about how you shouldn't
                       see this movie?
                        \_ I know things like Richard Perle saying that he
                           told MM that what MM put in his movie about RP's
                           stuff simply wasn't true and MM had months to fix
                           it before release and wouldn't even respond.  For
                           example, RP says he is the one who gave the OK for
                           the bin Laden family to leave the US; it never went
                           higher than him personally yet MM blames Bush for
                           it as if it was a Bush/bin Laden oil conspiracy. MM
                           is a proven liar and a scumbag and won't see my
                           money.  Thanks for asking.
                        \_ I don't listen to the radio. I saw a summary
                           of the movie in a newspaper (think it was the
                           WSJ). The newshour had some stuff about it
                           as well. Seemed to me like yaOverHypedFlick.
                           Anyway, movies aren't really my thing. The
                           last movie I saw was ST:Nemsis. The next
                           movie I'll see might be Bourne Supremacy.
                           \_ Most of this "hype" is being generated by
                              people calling it some "twit's lame over-hyped
                              ramblings". I'm sure Michael Moore couldn't
                              be happier with all the free publicity
                              conservatives are giving him.
                              \_ When someone tells the Big Lie in public and
                                 worse, gets money and accolades for it, it is
                                 important to say something.  Otherwise people
                                 will blindly accept it as fact instead of as
                                 "that controversial movie by that guy".
                           \_ Ahh, so you just have extremely poor taste.
                              Likely you don't bother to vote anyway, so its
                              moot.
                                \_ Can't argue about the poor taste
                                   in movies part. I'll watch almost
                                   anything with the words Star Trek
                                   in the title.
                                   I have voted Republican in every
                                   election since 1995. Someone has to
                                   keep the commies from taking over
                                   the country. :-)
                                   \_ The Trekkies vs. the Commies??!!?!
                                      Now THAT I would pay $10 to see.
                                        \_ Winner takes on the Moonies
                                           in a steel cage death match.
                                           \_ Bust a deal, spin the wheel!
                    \_ Apparently you're wrong about that, but please
                       continue with your fantasy world, its amusing to
                       the rest of us.
                       \_ Don't you see his logic?  If they see the movie, then
                          they aren't Real Conservatives (TM).  It's like how
                          lots of Christian denominations disclaim other
                          wacky Christians by saying "Those aren't Real
                          Christians."
                          \_ no.  if we see the movie, we're wasting our time
                             and money better spent with families, at work, or
                             doing something useful elsewhere.
                       \_ Most of my conservative friends have skipped
                          this movie prefering to spend their money on
                          real entertainment instead (spidey 2).
                          \_ Spiderman's a Democrat.
                                \_ So what? Conservatives can't like
                                   Democrats? When was that law passed?
                                   \_ Dude, it was a joke. I don't even
                                      think Spiderman has a political
                                      affiliation. Take that rod out of
                                      your ass.
                                        \_ So was my response.
                                   \_ obAnnCoulterToThread
                          \_ "I'm having trouble paying my mortgage, but
                             everyone is these days in the Bush economy."
                             \_ Yeah with interest rates at 46 year lows, if
                                you can't pay your mortgage you're an idiot.
           \_ I vote for Danville or Atherton.
              \_ I dunno if Atherton is that conservative - just extremely
                 rich.
                 \_ Piedmont - extremely rich and pretty liberal
                    Atherton - extremely rich and pretty conservative
                    \_ All the Atherton residents I know (8 households,
                       both my age-group and my parents') are fairly
                       liberal.
                       \_ Are you liberal?  If so, what are the odds you
                          would spend social time with anyone who wasn't?
                       \_ Maybe Stockton?  Most of the Bay Area is pretty
                          liberal.  All major Bay Area counties voted Dem
                          in the 2000 election.
        \_ To call F911 a "documentary" is an injustice to real documentary
           film producers such as Ken Burns. Its like comparing the crap on
           Discovery channel to real programs such as Nova or American Exp.
           \_ Ken Burns?  You've gotta be kidding me.  I would argue about
              this with you but just the thought of Ken Burns is putting me
              to sleee.....zzzzzzz
                \_ Almost everything Ken Burns has produced for American
                   Experience has been exceptional. Entertaining, factual,
                   well researched.
                   \_ ZZZZZZzzzZZ....mph...ZZzzz
           \_ Nova is a real documentary???  It can be many times more biased
              than F9/11 except nobody is bothered about it.
                \_ I've been watching Nova for more than 20 yrs. I haven't
                   ever seen a biased eps.
                   \_ That says more about you than Nova or F9/11.
                        \_ Name some biased eps in Nova.
2004/7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:31125 Activity:low
7/2     "Government, even in its best state, is a necessary evil; in its worst
        state, an intolerable one."  --Thomas Paine
        \_ Why does Thomas Paine hate America?  or should that ask why TP
           hates America?  I still don't get this but I'm trying.
2004/7/2-4 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:31126 Activity:high
7/2     I notice that in my .spamassassin directory, there is a 5
        Meg file called bayes_toks.  I _do_ understand why it is there.
        But, there is another 5 Meg file called bayes_toks.expire84232.
        And there are 4 other bayes_toks.expire files of varying
        size.  Why are they there?  Can I delete them?  My spamassassin dir
        takes up nearly 13 Megs.  I gather that the expire files can be
        deleted.  I believe that I hit my hard quota while spamc was
        running, leaving these orphaned files.  Assuming this to be the
        case, how do I stop spamc from auto-learning?
         \_ So, I noticed that in my messages that were classified as spam,
            it said "autolearn=no", but in those classified as ham, it said
            "autolearn=ham", so I thought that the expire files are created
            while it's trying to auto-learn.  But in fact, it seems that it's
            when I receive spam (at least in one case) that it creates the
            expire files.  What is it doing when it is creating
            bayes_toks.expire files and how do I get it to stop?  I just
            want it to filter my mail.  Why should it create any files?  I
            can sa-learn it on my own time.  -op
        \_ autolearn=no means spamassassin doesn't know whether it is spam or
           ham.  You need to train spamassasin manually with that message.
           According to the global setting in
           /usr/local/share/spamassassin/10_misc.cf
           Any mail with score > 12 is learnt as spam.
           Any mail with score < 0.1 is learnt as ham.
        \_ http://csua.org/u/80t
           \_ this is a good example of why url shortening can be bad.
              \_ I don't think it's terribly bad, but if it makes you feel
                 better, I've changed the result page for shortcutting so it
                 shows Title: link for easy copy-and-pasting of the whole
                 thing.  It won't necessarily end up shorter than the original
                 that way, but it will possibly be more informative.  --dbushong
                 that way, but it will possibly be more informative.
                --dbushong
2004/7/2 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan, Recreation/Dating] UID:31127 Activity:very high
2.7     The Godfather is dead:
        http://csua.org/u/80r
        \_ That's what happens when you chase a kid around with an orange
           peel in your mouth.
        \_ He's the third, I guess. -- ilyas
        \_ The body's not cold, and they couldn't resist showing a picture
           from the horrible "Island of Dr. Moreau"?  Damn.
           \_ REAGAN IS THE STANDARD!
              \_ He could'a been a contenda, somebody, but Ronny sold him
                 out. And now he's a nobody, relegated to the back end of
                 a state funeral.
        \_ Hey, Bart.  How'd you like to escort 5,000 Big Macs to Marlon
           Brando's island?
        \_ I watched Last tango in Paris while packing boxes for a move.
           My friends couldn't believe it.  Why?
           \_ I'm guessing you're either not the kind of person who gets many
              dates, not particularly adventurous romantically, or incredibly
              experienced and unimpressed by the movie's contents. Many people
              would watch LTiP with a date or significant other.
              \_ I didn't see sex/romance as the point of the movie, and sexual
                 content, while prevalent, was not of the titillating
                 kind.  It seemed full of pain, the opposite of a date movie.
                 \_ You have a poor grasp of what makes a good date movie.
                    \_ So a good date movie is Das Boot?
                       \_ see, the goal is to maximize emotional distress.
                          then she turns to you for comfort!
                          \_ But this is SO Machiavellian!
                       \_ F9/11 is a great date movie.
2004/7/2 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:31128 Activity:insanely high
7/2     http://csua.org/u/80x
        U.S. sending 7 of its 12 carrier strike groups to glower at China this
        summer. -- ulysses
        \_ Their flower-power is no match for my glower-power.
        \_ nice.  sugar daddy comes to our rescue again.  teach those idiotic
           nationalistic gung-ho commie bastards some manners ....
           most likely, they will do something like US trade sanction against
           cuba instead ... and see whose economy collapses first.
           \_ It's based on unfound rumors.  Sending 7 CSG to one spot is not
              only an overkill for a message but also very stupid.
                \_ yea, but there isn't much to do these days anyway ...
        \_ It's foolishness. It simulates a war footing against China. And
           even worse, it's deploying 10 out of 12 CSG at a single time, which
           means naval scheduling will be a mess for the year afterwards. The
           perfect time for China to invade is a month or two after the
           exercise while the US is recovering.
           \_ This is consistent. Foresight, planning and contingency
              preparation have not been BushCo's strong points.
              \_ Ah yes.  The foresight to anticipate an Iraqi insurgency,
                 the planning to award no-bid reconstruction contracts to
                 Halliburton, and preparing for the contingency that we might
                 not be showered with flowers.
                 \_ Who exactly else in the whole world could have rebuilt an
                    entire country like Halliburton is doing now?  No one.
                    There is no one else on the planet that could have bid.
                    Some things just need to get done without bullshit and
                    24 month bid reviews.
           \_ well, it's an exercise. it seems reasonable to want to run though
              it for training purposes. it's politically incorrect but then so
              is communism.
              \_ When did communism become non-pc?
                 \_ Communism has always been cool with the politcally correct
                    crowd.  They idolise it and its confused followers.
           \_ come on guys, an url from a 2nd hand ?news? site that is based on
              a speculation from another totally unreliable site (sina.cn)
              isn't really a solid starting point for a sound discourse.
              Oh, never mind.  Neither is the motd.
              \_ But it would be cool if true since only 3 or 4 battle groups
                 carries more than enough fire power to obliterate all signs
                 of civilisation in China.
        \_ Yes it is true and fairly old news.
           Seven Carrier Strike Groups Underway for Exercise 'Summer
           Pulse 04'
           http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146624/posts
           \_ Which is quite different from the op.
2004/7/2 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:31129 Activity:very high
7/2     How will The Republicans respond to this?
        http://csua.org/u/80w  (Yahoo News)
        \_ their standard response: "Get over it!"  - pst
           \_ this coming from someone who falls at the feet of a group
              named "moveon.org".
        \_ An amusing stunt to be sure.  You might want a more descriptive
           line like: "Some Democratic Congresspeople request UN observe US
           election."  There's some loon who censors any link without what
           he considers to be an adequate description (presumably so he doesn't
           have to deal with the shock and awe of reading anything he might
           disagree with).
           \_ Idiot.  So it a) doesn't waste his time and b) avoids work
              unsafe links.  Moron, we aren't all surfing in our underwear
              at home with the motd in one window, pr0n in another and our
              dick in our hand.
       \_ The Republicans will not respond to it because the UN has no real
          jurisdiction here. I mean, what are you going to do if the UN
          Monitoring Committee finds that the elections are a fraud? Invade
          the US? The UN is merely a sock puppet for the U.S. anyway, and
          has no real power.
          \_ The UN exists so the 3rd world dictators can have a place to
             safely, and powerlessly, mouth off and feel important so they
             don't something stupid and actively harmful.  The UN doesn't
             have jurisdiction *anywhere* on the planet.
             \_ This is as stupid as standing on the porch of your
                trailerhouse with your shotgun in hand, declaring
                "them gubmint regulators ain't got no authority here"
                but you probably do that, too.
2004/7/2 [Recreation/Pets] UID:31130 Activity:kinda low
7/2     OMG HOOOJ CATS!!!!1!!!
        http://www.messybeast.com/freak-size.htm
2004/7/2 [Consumer/Camera, Politics/Domestic] UID:31131 Activity:very high
7/2     Is it now illegal to take a picture or video of buildings that
        are major landmarks or contain government offices?  Please no trolls.
        \_ It is suspicious, especially if you are brown-skinned.  You don't
           need to break to law to be arrested and detained indefinitely.
           \_ Don't spread FUD. The USSC has actually recently ruled that
              as long as you are an American citizen, you do, in fact need
              to be charged and due process must be followed.
              \_ I am not worried so much about high consitutional principles
                 as the potential of getting arrested and/or put in solitary
                 confinement for any period of time just dong what tourists
                 always do.
                 \_ Yeah because "they" are out there in black helicopters
                    picking up every tourist with a camera.
              \_ They can still call you an enemy combatant or a "person of
                 interest" and hold you indefinitely.  You *do* have the right
                 to challenge your confinement (habeas corpus), but that might
                 be cold comfort after spending 3 months in solitary
                 confinement.
                 \_ Not if you are a US Citizen on US territory. That was
                    what the Padilla case was about. If you are talking about
                    foriegners on US soil, you are correct.
2004/7/2 [Reference/Religion] UID:31132 Activity:very high
7/2     Even the Nigerians don't trust US. i.e., polio vaccines part of
        U.S. plot to sterilize muslims: http://tinyurl.com/35qol
        \_ you know what, I don't trust nigerians, at all.
           \_ what about nigerian-born sodans? (there's at least one, probably
              several)
           \_ That's too bad, because you have been recommended to me as a
              gentleman of outstanding character who might be able to help
              me transfer this $37 million in gold bullion out of the
              country.
        \_ Hey dummy, there are born and raised white americans right here in
           the US who don't get their children vaccinated because they think
           there's something wrong with them and the risk is higher than going
           unvaccinated.  We have a name for those people: stupid.
2004/7/2 [Science/Space] UID:31133 Activity:very high
7/2     Hubble may have discovered 100 new planets
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3856401.stm
        The real question is, do any of them harbor WMDs?
        \_ MARS, BITCH!
        \_ That's no moon. It's a spacestation.
2004/7/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:31134 Activity:moderate
7/2     I got a bounced message that says "550 Access Denied".  What
        does that mean?
        \_ Was there any extended message with it?  If not,
           it's probably some dumb spam filter, or a misconfigured
           mailer.
        \_ you were DENIED!  DENIED!  LOOSAH YUUU WAH DEEEEEEENIIIEEED!!!
2004/7/2-4 [Uncategorized] UID:31135 Activity:low
7/2     From yesterday's motd:
                while ( $line = <> ){
                      if ( $line !~ /line/ ) {
                                $output[$count++]=$line;
                                next;
                        }
                        if ( ! $firstline ) {
                                $firstline = $line;
                                $firstindex = $count++;
                        } else {
                                $output[$firstindex]=$line;
                                $output[$count++]=$firstline;
                        }
                }
                print foreach @output;
                # (Approximately)  -tom
        From the context, the 2nd line of this is meant to mean
            "if the current line does not contain the regexp 'line'"
        But why does !~ do this?
        \_ !~ is the shorthand for (! $foo =~ /blah/)
        \_ equivalent in this case would be: unless ($line =~ /line/) {
        \_ someone repost the whole thing please, I missed it
           \_ that is the whole thing.
2004/7/2-4 [Computer/SW] UID:31136 Activity:low
7/2     When I redirect to person B an email person A sent to me, and there
        is some delivery error, will the notification be sent to A instead
        of me?  In general, is there any scenario in which person A get
        notified that his mail has been redirected?
        \_ yea, when person B tells person A... if you mean by machine...
           if you forward the message, no.  not sure if you bounce.  don't
           think so though.
           \_ It might happen if you put A in the "reply-to" field.
           \_ person B is actually another account of mine.  I just want to
              shield my other account from person A.  And yes I do mean
              bounce (redirect) instead of forward.
              bounce (redirect) instead of forward.  When I looked at the
              header at account B, I cannot discern anything about my 1st
              account.  So how would the mail agent inform me instead of
              person A of any trouble with the redirection?
              \_ if you redirect it, the bounce goes back to person A.  -tom
2004/7/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:31137 Activity:high
7/2     How soon till it hits Drudge Report???
        link:csua.org/u/814 (Kerry overly friendly with young woman)
        \_ You're kidding, right?  Overly friendly?  It looks like a
           woman hugging a tree.  A really, really, extra wooden tree.
           \_ Kerry=Lurch Addams.
              \_ The guy is dead.  Why must you insult him?  Let him RIP.
        \_ Who is that? Is it his daughter?
2004/7/2-4 [Recreation/Travel] UID:31138 Activity:high
7/2     I used Travelocity to book a room with Holiday Inn (fine, I'm STUPID)
        but when I checked in the only rooms available were smoking rooms. I
        returned the keys and asked for a refund because of serious
        asthma, but the hotel would not give a refund because I didn't
        cancel it 24 hours in advance. In addition because Travelocity
        didn't ask me whether I wanted smoking or not, they said that
        they were not liable for giving me a room that I didn't like.
        How would this look in Small Claims given that the contract
        was pretty specific and the wording seems to be on the corporate
        side? Would the judge be sympathetic to me or tell me to fuck
        off because I violated the 24-hour clause in the contract? In
        addition, should I escalate it through the department of justice?
        Thanks.
        \_ You should do small claims.  They won't even fight it.
           \- hello assuming a reasonable credit card was involved
              you might be able to pursue it through them too.
        \_ i booked a hotel with travelocity also.  i wasn't aware of
           any option for choosing smoking/non-smoking room on their
           website.  i just called them over the phone and they told
           me it's an arragement i will make with the hotel on arrival.
           i am crossing my fingers now... :(
        \_ Orbitz or expedia tell you ahead of time, smoking or non
                \_ tried that, the CC company said its my fault for breaking
                   the contract
                   \_ did you file a written claim with CC company or just
                      call them up?  file a written claim which requires them
                      to reply in writing and then see where you stand.  if
                      they don't help you out cancel that CC.
2004/7/2 [Computer/SW/Security, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:31139 Activity:nil 66%like:31147
7/2     With Social Security everybody wins!
        http://www.ssa.gov/kids/kids.htm
2004/7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:31140 Activity:nil
7/2     Badly placed ()'s.
        It's from an:
           #!/bin/csh
           if ($arg == 'string') then
              cp file1 file2
           elseif ($arg == 'another_string') then
              cp file3 file4
           else
              other stuff
           endif
        Why is it badly placed parens?
2004/7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:31141 Activity:nil
7/2     Lindsay Lohan is now 18.
        \_ Who?  And we care because?
           \_ HOT. STACKED. AND most importantly... legal.
              \_ you'll never get more than 500 yards from her.  there are
                 zillions of hot stacked and legal chicks walking around that
                 you can get with in 5 yards without getting hit by a security
                 guy.
        \_ what were the other big "now legal" stars? olsen twins,
           brittany spears. christina?
2004/7/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:31142 Activity:nil 50%like:31148
7/2     Democrats suck.  I will *never* for *any* of your guys again.
        http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040702/ap_on_el_pr/nader_1&printer=1
        \_ ha! ha!! haaaaaa!!!! There is justice, after all.
           \_ shutting down a rival candidate through dirty legal tricks is
              justice?  thats good for democracy?  get a real candidate and
              you wouldn't have to worry so much about second party
              candidates.  your guy is dirty and ugly and has no honor.
              \_ but Nader smells! Nader also can't get laid.
        \_ Yeah, but you never voted for any of our guys before, so it is
           no loss.
           \_ I did before I learned you're the same as the other half of
              your party.  I won't again.  Nor will many others. -eyes open now
              \_ Actually, I used to be a Green. I even spent weeks on
                 Telegraph Ave collecting signatures to get the Green
                 Party on the ballot. But I have decided to switch to
                 Democrat precisely because of immature whiney actions
                 like Nader's. He has no "right" to be on the ballot and
                 if he can't gather the signatures then he should just shut up.
                 \_ Hello?  This is America.  He has *every* right to run.  It
                    isn't a "right".  It's a right.  An important one.  If he
                    can't get the signnatures then why are the dirty Dems so
                    worried and impassionaed about him?  If he was such a weak
                    candidate why are they so concerned?  You're no different
                    than Bush and his cronies.  You're all cynical and evil.
                    You weren't a Green.  You were a power hungry leftist with
                    no sense of the importance of clean government.  You're all
                    about winning at any cost.  Some costs are too high.
                    \_ He cannot get the signatures or he would be on
                       the ballot. Stop twisting my words.
2004/7/2-3 [Recreation/Food] UID:31143 Activity:nil
7/2     Anybody know the caffeine content of chocolate covered espresso beans?
        I couldn't find anything online.
        \_ Roast coffee is about 1% caffeine by mass.  A 2tbls measure of
           coffee beans is 15-20gms, IIRC.  Measure out how many half-beans
           are in a scoop.  Then you can fine the mass per half-bean.  I'd
           guestimate it's in the 100-300mg range, which would mean 10-30mg
           caffeint per candy.
2004/7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:31144 Activity:nil
7/2     Obligatory Friday hot chicks (no nudity)
        http://www.dream-media-group.com/reef/index.html
        \_ Not proxy safe.
2004/7/2-5 [Uncategorized] UID:31145 Activity:kinda low
7/2     Any feedback regarding the Toshiba Protege M205 Tablet PC?
        \_ yes.
2004/7/2-5 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:31146 Activity:high
7/2     What software do you use to backup your own PC?
        \_ snapshot backups via rsync over ssh
           http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots
           \- have you compared this with rdiff backups from
              stanfraud?
        \_ Raid 1+0.  No backups.
           \_ you never accidentally delete a file?
              \_ all important files in rcs.  this is deja-vu.  I answered
                 this at length two days ago.
        \_ rsync with incremental options running from cron to backup my
           Linux files to a second disk. On the windows box, I use
           right now the windows backup tool manually to backup everything
           to a second disk but you could schedule it automatically.
           \_ You can also put your windows data on a linux box and
              make it accessible to windows via a samba share.
        \_ Make CD backups every 6 months or so.
        \_ XP box:  Maxtor OneTouch drive, and store everything important
           on Samba shares.  FreeBSD boxes:  rsync back and forth between
           boxes.  -John
        \_ I have multiple matched drives. Every three months or so, I copy
           everything from one drive to another and then start using the new
           copy. The next time, I swap the drives. Once a month I burn stuff
           to a cd/dvd. Important stuff I keep in cvs. I backup my repository
           every other week. I'm mostly using MacOS X, FreeBSD and OpenBSD,
           I don't bother backing up my WinXP box, nothing important on it
           except DVDDecrypter :-)
           \_ I've read that if you let drives spin down for too long there
              is a good chance they won't spin up again, thus cold disk is
              not a good backup medium.  I've done a little of what you're
              doing but not enough to say if what I read is true or not. YMMV.
                \_ From what I've seen this is only the case if you let
                   your drives sit for years not months. Even then, most
                   drives will work (I just powered on a scsi drive that I
                   last used in 1997 and got some data from it last week).
                   Also, I tried to make sure that my drives are never
                   more than 24 months old. Around 18 months or so I upgrade
                   to a larger pair and sell the older pair to offset the
                   cost.
2004/7/2 [Computer/SW/Security, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:31147 Activity:nil 66%like:31139
7/2     With Social Security everybody wins!
        http://www.ssa.gov/kids/kids.htm
        \_ I am a Grasshopper.
           When I saw my friends relaxing, I said that we had to store our
           money away for the winter.  Sure none of it will go to _our_
           retirement because the system will go bankrupt, but at least that's
           money that won't go into a 401(k), ensuring a solvent retirement
           for our generation!
2004/7/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:31148 Activity:nil 50%like:31142
7/2     Democrats suck.  I will *never* for *any* of your guys again.
        [non-shortened URL deleted]
        \_ ha! ha!! haaaaaa!!!! There is justice, after all.
           \_ shutting down a rival candidate through dirty legal tricks is
              justice?  thats good for democracy?  get a real candidate and
              you wouldn't have to worry so much about second party
              candidates.  your guy is dirty and ugly and has no honor.
              \_ but Nader smells! Nader also can't get laid.
        \_ Yeah, but you never voted for any of our guys before, so it is
           no loss.
           \_ I did before I learned you're the same as the other half of
              your party.  I won't again.  Nor will many others. -eyes open now
              \_ Actually, I used to be a Green. I even spent weeks on
                 Telegraph Ave collecting signatures to get the Green
                 Party on the ballot. But I have decided to switch to
                 Democrat precisely because of immature whiney actions
                 like Nader's. He has no "right" to be on the ballot and
                 if he can't gather the signatures then he should just shut up.
                 \_ Hello?  This is America.  He has *every* right to run.  It
                    isn't a "right".  It's a right.  An important one.  If he
                    can't get the signnatures then why are the dirty Dems so
                    worried and impassionaed about him?  If he was such a weak
                    candidate why are they so concerned?  You're no different
                    than Bush and his cronies.  You're all cynical and evil.
                    You weren't a Green.  You were a power hungry leftist with
                    no sense of the importance of clean government.  You're all
                    about winning at any cost.  Some costs are too high.
                    \_ He cannot get the signatures or he would be on
                       the ballot. Stop twisting my words. The "dirty
                       Dems" just asked him to verify his signatures and
                       he could not. If he can't get a mere 20,000 signatures
                       in a state the size of Arizona, his campaign is
                       pathetic. I was part of a group that got 10,000
                       signatures in 6 weeks. There were 10 of us volunteering
                       our time. We collected them all from San Francisco
                       voters. This implies that Nader can't get 20 dedicated
                       volunteers in the whole state. Where was your
                       outrage over The Republican Party illegally helping
                       Nader get on the ballot in Oregon?
                    \_ If your eyes are "wide open" now, then you'll realize
                       that there is no such thing as a clean government. You
                       will also realize that Nader had 0% chance of being
                       president. Nader is on a crusade to punish the Dems. He
                       did it in '00, and he wants to repeat the same in '04.
                       The greens must have been shitting some serious spinach
                       the last four years, and have realized that backing
                       Nader was the most horrible "naiive" mistake they've
                       ever made. Nader should go back to doing what he's good
                       at: consumer protections. That's all he was ever good
                       at doing.
        \_ I voted Nader twice, and now that I know he is anti-Israel,
           I would rather vote far-right or Republican.
2004/7/2-3 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:31149 Activity:moderate
7/2     Is this valid C++ code?  It works for gcc but in VxWorks the array
        is initialized to { 0, 0 }.  Just out of curiosity/bitterness.  tia.
        #define IN_Q 0
        #define OUT_Q 1
        int foo () {
          int queueTypes[] = { IN_Q, OUT_Q };
          ...
        }
        \_ Yes. Better yet, use const ints for IN_Q and OUT_Q if it's C++.
        \_ Yes, perfectly legal and pretty basic.  Something that can't handle
           that is pretty broken.  You sure there's not more to it?
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