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| 2004/5/21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:30335 Activity:high |
5/20 In Java, how does a class instantiate an inner class that belongs
to another class?
\_ You don't.
\_ I remember "new OuterClass.InnerClass()" working. |
| 2004/5/21 [Politics/Foreign/Canada, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:30336 Activity:very high |
5/21 Bomb Canada:
http://tinyurl.com/32jdo (canada.com/national post)
\_ If we're nice to the terrorists, they'll be nice back! It's
just because we're so mean that they attack!
\_ I think we should negotiate with the terrorists. Surely their
demands are reasonable and can be accomadated.
\_ I agree with both of the above. If we just let them kill all the
Jews, give them back Spain, build new Wahabi schools to educate
more of their children, and all either convert or kill ourselves,
they'll stop attacking us.
\_ I think Bush and Osama need to get together for some
tantric yoga.
\_ Just think of how much more we could have gotten done in the war
on terror if we hadn't listened to Chalabi. |
| 2004/5/21 [Computer/Companies/Apple, Consumer/Audio] UID:30337 Activity:insanely high |
5/21 Why apple has an iPod division:
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040520.html
\_ silly speculation. -tom
\_ How's that kool-aid tasting?
\_ I own a Mac, but I certainly haven't drunk the kool-aid.
Apple has significant challenges going forward, and the
biggest one is that they are still massively reliant on the
desktop hardware business; getting rid of it is not really
possible. -tom
\_ Because the iPod makes them lots of money. Duh.
\_ This from the same guy who has zip understanding of MMORPGs but
wrote a column on their economies. |
| 2004/5/21 [Health/Disease/General] UID:30338 Activity:very high |
5/21 Soda might cause cancer:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995002
\_ Everything causes cancer when you give a rat 50,000 times in a day
the amount a human would consume in a lifetime.
\_ Not to say that there aren't problems with how this type
of research is done... but they actually do need to give
rats many times the human daily dosage of a substance to
compensate for the more active rat metabolism.
\_ Does 50,000 x 365 x 70 human sized doses per rat per day
sound right to you?
\_ then delete my username and account ASAP please
\_ Heck, I knew that. Spending 36 hours straight in a basment
with 40 computers CAN'T be good for you.
\_ Log off now! |
| 2004/5/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:30339 Activity:insanely high |
5/21 For those not subscribed to http://ucb.org.csua: From: jvarga@csua.berkeley.edu (Jeffrey Varga) Subject: CSUA T-Shirts are in! Yes, CSUA T-Shirts are now officially in! If you sent me an email requesting to reserve one, I most likely emailed you individually. If I did not email you back, I have not reserved one for you and your email has been eaten! For everyone else, buy your vintige CSUA cheap knockoff T-Shirts for the low-low price of only $12. Buy now, and for only $0.25 you can get fruity crack! Yay! jvarga [has gone nuts from finals] http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~jvarga/images/CSUA-Final---Front.png http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~jvarga/images/CSUA-Final---Back.png \_ Question: is there any reason the CSUA doesn't have a cafepress store for these t-shirts? I'd be interested in one except I'm an alumnus and nowhere near Berkeley. \_ cafepress doesn't offer black t-shirts, for one thing. \_ RACIST! \_ RAPIST! \_ what? \_ whatever happened to the price list design shirt that was going to be on cafepress? \_ Me too. Is there a way to buy one if I live 2000 miles away? |
| 2004/5/21 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:30340 Activity:insanely high |
2/21 I just upgraded a very old PIII to an AthlonXP. I used the cheapest
CPU and a rather cheapie MB with only 256 megs of RAM (I just wanted
to do something with the extra box and drives I had lying around.)
It seems to run a LOT faster than my laptops running a Celeron 1.5
gigahertz with 256 megs of RAM and seems comparable with a 3.2
gigahertz P4 laptop with 512 RAM I have on loan from the company I
work for. It's especially noticable when running stuff like 3D games
(I'm not a gamer so the stuff I run is 3 years old). I stuck in a
cheapie Radeon 9600 and it seems to run a lot faster and smoother
than even the higher rated laptop (which has a mobile Radeon builtin).
Has anyone had similar experiences
before? Do laptops really suck that much vs. desktops? The memory and
the drive I suppose really do affect performance (I turned off cpu
throttling on the mobiles but it didn't make much difference).
\_ You're looking at a few things here. 1) the bus speed on the
laptops is probably dirt. 2) celerons suck. 3) mobile video is
always "teh suk!". mobile video vs desktop: even when it has the
same model # is never as good as the desktop version. they cut
out extra performance bits and often lower the clock to save power
and heat. 4) laptop video is lcd and probably set to a lower
refresh rate than your desktop default on a crt. 5) the bus speed
and ram on your desktop is also probably set lower than desktop.
6) the laptops probably have some power saving mode on which is
keeping your cpu from burning itself up and not telling you. this
is all in no particular order, btw, and without knowing more about
your particular setup it could be any or none of these. -amc
\_ oh yeah, the hard drives in laptops are usually slower, too. -amc
your particular setup it could be any or none of these.
\_ I am a EE idoit, so, forgive me. Does LCD has "refresh rate"
as well? For CRTs, I can literally see the electron guns
and imagine it sweeping back and forth 60 times a second.
\_ Systems have refresh rates that determine how often updates
are sent to the monitor. Refresh rates for LCD monitors
usually don't mean too much, though; there's no electron
gun for LCDs, so there's no flicker, which is usually why
people want high refresh rates in the first place. LCD
monitors do have response times though, which is the amount
of time it takes for a pixel to completely change states. A
high response time leads to ghosting.
\_ In effect, yes. The on/off time for an lcd pixel can be
mostly equated to the refresh time on a crt.
\_ I have an Alienware 51-m laptop (for work). It has a 3.2 GHz HT
CPU, 1 GB RAM and a 7200 RPM drive, Mobility Radeon 9600. It's just
as good as a desktop (with the possible exception of the video--I
have a Radeon 9800 at work, so I can't easily compare it to the
Mobility). It also has a 8.8 Amp-Hr battery and 160 W power supply,
and weighs 10 lbs. But it's a pleasure to use. |
| 2004/5/21 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:30341 Activity:kinda low |
5/21 In the following procmail example (found on a procmail help page),
is there any reason for the extra ':' on the first line. What file
is being locked? Even if one of the actions were writing to a
file, wouldn't it be sufficient to just have the extra ':' right
before that particular command, and NOT before the '{'?
:0: # forward jokes to my wossamatta u. account
* ^From.*bob
* ^Subject:.*(joke|funny)
{
:0 c
! rocky@wossamatta.edu
:0
| lpr -Pacsps
} |
| 2004/5/21 [Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:30342 Activity:high 55%like:30347 |
5/21 Bill Cosby gets it. NAACP Mfume and Shaw do not.
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-flmid3811870may21,0,7539165,print.story?coll=ny-entertainment-headlines
\_ What a shock. A self-made millionaire understands real life, but
leaders of a group motivated to maintain victimhood dosen't.
\_ I don't think Bill gets it, I think he is being arrogant.
Everyone has their own way of talking in the right setting.
You don't talk the same around your parents, as you do your
friends, or at work. There's nothing wrong with slang in the
right setting. Besides, once slang is accepted in the
mainstream it no longer sounds ghetto. Take for instance,
"it's all good". 10 years ago you'd never hear White professionals
utter that, but now it's quite common. Cosby needs to get off of
his high-horse, he sounds like a sell-out.
\_ Slang is fine at home but not in business. I don't care if
people speak pidgin, ebonics, English, Spanish or Martian at
home. But use standard English if you want to interact with the
rest of US society.
\_ White people have white trash who we make fun of. If
you make fun of black trash it's racism. Hoookay...
(Or in this case, since Cosby is black he's an Uncle Tom)
\_ AP's version of the evening differs from NewsDay and WorldNetDaily.
Quelle shock!
http://csua.org/u/7eb
\_ Neither account claims to be comprehensive. This is new?
\_ Tell us another one, Unka Tom! |
| 2004/5/21 [Recreation/Humor, Politics/Domestic] UID:30343 Activity:very high |
5/21 http://csua.org/u/7ef Aren't Right Wingers funny when they make fun of dead peace activists? \_ Aren't peace activists funny when they do something stupid and die? \_ no, actually, that's not funny at all. \_ I'm waiting for some self-identifying conservative to disavow this one the way I disavow myself from Ted Rall's frequent idiocy. I suspect it won't happen, actually. -- ulysses \_ I'm taken aback by the uproar considering most leftists are also Darwinists. \_ You are a liberal? \_ That depends on who's asking. -- ulysses \_ I'm not sure what to disavow here. This is tasteless and not funny. One the other hand, it's just a crappy cartoon in a University rag. It's not nationally syndicated, who cares? BTW, yes, I'm right wing, and I think what she did was stupid. Doesn't mean I don't think this comic is too. |
| 2004/5/21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30344 Activity:nil |
5/21 How do I configure Mozilla to use outlook when I click on an email
address? It keeps insisting launching it's own mail program!!
\_ it's clearly smarter than you are.
\_ This is one of the big failings of Mozilla. Use Firefox instead.
\_ I looked this up a few months ago. It wasn't worth the trouble.
I got a new job instead. Good luck! |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Computer/SW/Compilers] UID:30345 Activity:very high |
5/21 I was not a CS major and never took the compiler class. What is
a good book to help me write a compiler? And what about interpreter?
Do they basically involve the same issues except code generation and
optimization?
\_ Use the book by Robert Mak, called "Writing Interpreters and
Compilers in C++." It's a practical, hands-on "lab" type book which
doesn't get bogged down in too much theory. It's a lot of book to go
through, but if you pace yourself and follow the examples you'll
have a good, practical knowledge about writing interpreters and
compilers. I would avoid theory books such as the Dragon book since
from what you've indicated you probably want practice over theory,
(I doubt you're planning to write the next ocaml or haskel or some
other junk language that will never see the light of day...) Also,
compilers and interpreters are no longer written in the sense that
you think of. Nowadays people use metainterpreters/compilers to
build stuff like this (i.e. lex and yacc).
\_ Oh God!!! Here we go with everyone responding about how great the
dragon book and CLR are.
\_ Let me be the first to say what a piece of crap the dragon book
was (is). It's written so badly it often took me 5-6 reads to
understand a paragraph, often requiring me to diagram what the
author was writing. The book seems to go to great lengths to
avoid clear examples too, which makes it more fun.
\_ agree, this book uses the most cryptic English ever.
\_ You should take basic CS classes before reading the compiler book.
Otherwise it'll be easy to get lost. Do you know regular/push-down
and other Chomsky-hierarchy shit? If not you better get to know
them before you get into compilers.
\_ agree on basic CS courses, I dunno what chom-whatever was, and
I still got thru this course. you basically need to know data
structures and be reasonably decent at programming.
\_ I took CS164 (w/ Hilfinger, no less) but by the time I graduated, I
totally forgot most of the stuff I learned. What are some actual
applications of writing a lexer/parser as opposed to taking
something off the shelf or just putting together a very simple
language that is easily parsed by Perl?
\_ None whatsoever, since it's already been proven that current
languages (C, Pascal, scheme, lisp, forth or any fully functional
ALGOG type language) are as powerful as langauges can get. In
other words all modern computer programming languages are
essentially equivalent and it is impossible to write a more
functional language than what is already out there. The
people who are trying to invent new languages are merely
wasting time and are essentially arguing about style rather
than substance. --williamc
\_ Not exactly. Though programming languages that are Turing
Complete are equally powerful, some are more expressive
than others -- this is something you can quantify using
a model like Denotational Semantics.
\- if you think the dragon book is confusing, have you
tried reading anything by Christopher Strachey? --psb
\_ That's true, certain languages are definitely more apt
at doing certain things than others (i.e. you can do
things in Perl much more quickly than in C or Java and
vice versa). However, the point is that there isn't
anything that really requires another language that
isn't already out there. We've been at OOP for what,
the past 20-30 years? Pattern programming has never
really taken off except in very fundemental class
design. So what's really left to "invent" in a
new language? If you argue for better parralleism
for MPAs I'd say we had languages like that with
Modula 2/3. --wllliamc
\_ One idea I was toying with was separating 'object' from
'data structure' in the language. The language library
provides mathematical objects for you to use:
(graphs, sets, trees, etc), and changes the
implementation (at compile time) depending on how they
are used, in the same way that databases do query
optimization. I don't think this has been done yet.
I think the field of 'improving tools' for programmers
and people representing knowledge is wide open. -- ilyas
\_ The Self virtual machine will change the machine
code implementation of your data structure depending
on how it is used. And in a prototype-based language,
like Self, it's pretty easy to define interfaces
that change behavior as you use them.
\_ I think what I want is for the compiler to do this,
not the programmer. Say if you use a set but only
iterate over it, an array will do, but if you do
random access, you want a hashtable. A compiler
can figure these things out, and substitute the
right data structure, while a programmer can think
about properties of sets themselves. It's cool
that self does this, but I wonder if it does
'complexity analysis' to figure out what data
struct to use like "this set is accessed randomly
a linear number of times, so we want a data struct
which supports random access in constant time", and
so on. These are the kinds of decisions a
programmer makes, and it would neat if occasionally
the compiler could take over this job. -- ilyas
Actually, looking back, I think part of the reason I don't remember
anything is that I took it with Hilfnger and was too busy
deciphering his project specs and doing the projects and not busy
enough learning the theory and applications... but at least I can
still pick up something like the Java or JVM spec and understand it.
\_ Manycompiler/interpreters are for some very specialized language.
\_ Many compiler/interpreters are for some very specialized language.
It only has one application, and you might not even recognize
it as a programming language. |
| 2004/5/21 [Health/Disease/General] UID:30346 Activity:nil |
5/21 I have been get some mails that just contains just a short paragraph
claiming I have sent them emails with viruses, which I of course did
not. Is it really somebody forged emails with my email address?
The hostnames of those who send me the complaint do not seem legitimate
either, but if they were spam, what are they trying to sell if their
messages contain no solicitation nor ad?
\_ These fake virus emails usually have an attachment which they claim
is the thing you sent them but is really a virus. Just delete. |
| 2004/5/21 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia, Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:30347 Activity:high 55%like:30342 |
5/21 Bill Cosby gets it. NAACP Mfume and Shaw do not.
http://csua.org/u/7ee [newsday.com]> (shortened)
\_ What a shock. A self-made millionaire understands real life,but
leaders of a group motivated to maintain victimhood dosen't.
\_ I don't think Bill gets it, I think he is being arrogant.
Everyone has their own way of talking in the right setting.
You don't talk the same around your parents, as you do your
friends, or at work. There's nothing wrong with slang in the
right setting. Besides, once slang is accepted in the
mainstream it no longer sounds ghetto. Take for instance,
"it's all good". 10 years ago you'd never hear White professionals
utter that, but now it's quite common. Cosby needs to get offof
his high-horse, he sounds like a sell-out.
\_ Slang is fine at home but not in business. I don't care if
people speak pidgin, ebonics, English, Spanish or Martian at
home. But use standard English if you want to interact withthe
rest of US society.
\_ Business is not some monolithic White Republican thing. Is
black slang appropriate if you are a rap A&R person? Of
course.
\_ White people have white trash who we make fun of. If
you make fun of black trash it's racism. Hoookay...
(Or in this case, since Cosby is black he's an Uncle Tom)
\_ If you're black and you make fun of black trash it's ok.
Generally, it's tacky to poke fun at race if it's not your
own.
\_ I'd say it's tacky (but fun) to make fun of your own race
but it's mean-spirited and possibly racist to make fun
of a different race.
\_ AP's version of the evening differs from NewsDay and WorldNetDaily.
Quelle shock!
http://csua.org/u/7eb
\_ Neither account claims to be comprehensive. This is new?
\_ you're right, it's not new that NewsDay takes quotes out
of context in a pathetic attempt to push their own agenda.
Hey, you want to post another link to an ice flow study
as "proof" against global warming? -tom
\_ The AP version is shorter and has clearly cut out or
mischaracterized the less "PC" Cosby lines. You've got it
all back asswards, as usual.
\_ Tell us another one, Unka Tom! |
| 2004/5/21 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:30348 Activity:very high |
5/21 My boss's new black BMW got keyed recently along the length of the car.
He tried to buff it out, but the scratch is still there. Any
recommendations? Thanks. No, I didn't do it.
\_ are you the world's biggest sycophant? why do you even care?
\_ Comprehensive insurance. My car got keyed and I paid $50 out-of-
pocket. $100 and $150 are more common of more expensive cars.
\_ Bad suggestion. Your insurance will go up. Don't file frivolous
claims.
\_ That's what comprehensive insurance is for.. it includes
minor theft / vandalism and isn't supposed to count
towards your premium going up. They aren't allowed to
hike your premiums for these things. BTW, this also
includes things like cracks in your windshield from
rocks on the freeway
\_ My premium didn't go up. Claims against comprehensive
(because they're committed by acts of vandalism or acts
of God) don't increase your premium. Check with your
insurance.
\_ "If God lived on Earth, people would knock out all His
windows." -- Yiddish saying
\_ Anything under $500 or so should not increase your premium.
But most comprehensive come with a deductible that you
have to pay out of your pocket. If you have $250 or $500
deductible, not worth it.
\_ Mine was over $500 and it didn't increase my premium.
The point is that it wasn't your fault and was
completely out of your control. In that case, it should
not count against you as it would if you were simply
a bad driver. $250-$500 deductibles are pretty steep.
I've never seen them that high although it would be
plausible.
\- Helo I dont think you understadn moral hazard.
Anyway, if you file a lot of claims, it may suggest
you somehow more expensive to insure ... whether that
is because you live/work/park in a bad area, have
a nasty bumper sticker that pisses off people and
gets your car keyed, whether you have a stalker or
neighbor who hates you. Unless an insurance co is
regulated against using filed claimed as signals,
it probably makes sense for things like this to have
an effect on primiums. --psb
\_ You must be paying high premium. How often do you
claim for comprehensive?
\_ Not really. I only filed once because some
asshole who deserves to be gang-raped in
San Quinton keyed my mid 90's car.
\_ If you hadn't blocked his driveway,
he wouldn't have keyed your car.
\_ I had a $100 deductible on my comprehensive (I
don't have comprehensive any more). Came in handy
when a rock cracked our windshield (and the
windshield cost $900 to replace).
\_ Do you drive a BMW or sports car?
\_ If your boss drives a BMW, he/she must have money pay for such minor
damages. Why even trying to waste your precious time to even
find a cheap way to fix it.
\_ because he's the one who keyed it
\_ Loser #1: No one likes wasting money, even BMW drivers.
Loser #2: I didn't do it.
\_ Loser #3: ass kisser.
\_ Oh yes, I see now how this discussion has evolved.
\_ BMW drivers have hearts and souls, too. And sometimes not\
so snobby as to think "$500 is nothing." --chris
\_ It's actually amazing what misconceptions people have of
BMW as being an expensive car. Relatively speaking, a
3-series actually costs less than those monsterous SUVs
and even many sedans that look cheap (Subaru STi, Evo,
G35, Lexus, etc.).
\_ X5
\_ My 3 series was over $40K. Lexus, G35, and such were
almost $10K cheaper. It is expensive for what it is. By
the way, keeping a low deductible is a waste of money.
Get one with $500 or $1000 and use it only when you need it.
\_ Lexus and G35 are pieces of crap. Just because they're
$10K cheaper doesn't mean it's a good value. You should
have bought a used 5-series for the same money. -chris
\_ That's actually true. Edmunds uses to concept of
true-cost-of-ownership which factors in things
like mileage, depreciation, and maintainance costs.
BMWs have free maintainance for the first 3 years.
They hold their value pretty well and they're
pretty fuel efficient. Their lame SUVs, on the
other hand, are a different story.
\_ I think Lexus is a better car and my next car
might well be a Lexus. Also, if I wanted a 5
series I would've gotten a 5 series. I didn't
want a 5 series.
\_ Latest issue of Consumer Reports shows that
reliability for Mercedes & BMW is in the dumps.
Japanese luxury cars don't have that problem.
\_ Yep. My neighbor has a Mercedes and a
Volvo. His next car? Toyota Avalon. He's
sick of the problems and his last Toyota
had none.
\_ most of that is about trim pieces and such, as
opposed to costly mechanical stuff, but yeah.
\_ Look at it this way. I have had all 4
power window regulators replaced under
warranty at $400 each. When the warranty
goes out that is not a cheap repair. Add
in the time I wasted with my car in the
shop and the frustration (one broke on
my way to a concert and I had to go back
home to switch cars!) and it sucks! My
Honda hasn't had one regulator replaced
yet in TWICE the time!
\_ Well the 3 series price range is huge, the base ones are
retail 28K, invoice under 26. There are quite a lot of
cars in the 30-40K range that people don't get this
attitude over (Ford Explorer). High end brands just each
have connotations about what kind of people own them.
But for some reason Audi and Acura and even Lexus I think
don't have that brand image. Probably because it wasn't
until the 90's that they really got in the game. |
| 2004/5/21 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:30349 Activity:high |
5/21 Bravo Pelosi! You have more balls than most politicians.
Fuck Bush!
\_ all balls , no brains. Her answer on her way to win
the war on terrorism: "Education"
\_ On the left, this passes for political rumination.
\_ On the right, this passes for terrorism.
\_ wewt!
\_ Also more money (richest woman in congress). Also more plastic
surgery (okay, that's speculation).
\_ Wait, how many women are there in congress? And how rich is she?
\_ This kind of talk puts American lives at risk!
\_ http://politicalresources.com/You_Asked/Richest.htm
Amend that to one of the richest people in congress.
\_ what does that have to do with anything?
\_ No less than the op.
\_ uh, what?
\_ Lest we omit that 8 of the top richest congresscritters
are also Dem.
\_ "The San Francisco/Boston Democrats led by John Kerry have now
adopted 'Blame America First' as their official policy," RNC
Chairman Ed Gillespie said..." Why does Pelosi hate America??
I'm George Bush, and I approved this message. |
| 2004/5/21 [Reference/Religion] UID:30350 Activity:high |
5/21 http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=1885406&nav=EyAzNJKP Man, don't go golfing in Florida. (Actually gator bites car) \_ There was a 8 foot gator in the pool of my grandparent's neighbors in Boca. \_ Never live in a town called "Rat Mouth" \_ Tell that to the jews who have taken over. |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Politics/Domestic/HateGroups] UID:30351 Activity:insanely high |
5/21 http://www.billymilano.com/ChapelleShow-Black_White_Supremecist.wmv black white supremacist video \_ rofl :) \_ not funny at all. \_ i have to agree... concept wasn't too bad but that was boring. forced and overlong, plus... racism isn't funny. \_ RACIST! \_ RAPIST! \_ BIKE RIDER! \_ WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA? \_ MASS GRAVES? \_ OUTRAGED BY OUTRAGE! \_ SUV IS THE STANDARD! |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:30352 Activity:nil |
5/21 http://csua.org/u/7ej (ABC News) 30-year-old Abu Ghraib sysadmin Sgt. Provance stripped of his security clearance and told he may face prosecution because his comments were "not in the national interest." He was probably smacked because: "Provance said when Fay interviewed him, the general seemed interested only in the military police, not the interrogators, and seemed to discourage him from testifying", making Maj. Gen. Fay (who has been assigned by the Pentagon to look into MI's role in the abuse) look really bad. \_ If you're a sysadmin you'd better be at least a Major. Sergeants get paid peanuts. They got what they paid for. |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:30353 Activity:nil |
5/21 What is the proper way to spin down a an IDE disk in a FireWire
enclosure in Linux? hdparm (the ATA/IDE tool) or scsi-spin?
The Firewire device shows up as SCSI in /dev/sda/ |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:30354 Activity:insanely high |
5/21 More and more pics and videos from Iraq. Some at the washingtonpost.
\_ Is there some reason I'd WANT to see more gruesome pictures?
\_ Why, as explained by a Washington Post editor:
http://csua.org/u/7ek
\_ Not compelling to me.
\_ Well, now you know, at least.
\_ Expect ongoing politicizing of the images slowly leaked out
by the media until the election. And people wonder
why the left is accused of treason.
\_ You should raed the above URL, first. Then you can come back
and call the liberal left treasonous. I don't care.
\_ You should read the above URL, first. Then you can come back
and call the liberal left treasonous. There's nothing I don't
like more than an uninformed Bush supporter.
\_ Uhm, I think we all know bad shit happened to some Iraqis
in US custody. Is it necessary to see all 1000 photos and
17 videos spread out over every 3 days between now and the
election? No, it is not. I mostly support the original
revealing of what was going on. I do not support the
politically motivated trickling we're now seeing.
\_ Well you should care, because the media is trying to
recreate Vietnam all over again. Its disgusting and
treasonous. Please explain to me how I am uninformed.
I am waiting to be enlightened, please deign to do so!!!
\_ Do you agree with suspending our obligations in the
Geneva Conventions?
\_ Like this section: "..shall encourage the
practice of intellectual, educational, and
recreational pursuits, sports and games
amongst prisoners"?
A combatant is someone in the military
service of a country that wears a uniform with
a fixed distinctive insignia, openly carries a
weapon, obeys the laws of war and answers to a
chain of command. American military forces
diligently follow these rules. Terrorists that
the American military is fighting in Afghanistan
and Iraq do not. Even under the Geneva
Convention, spies, saboteurs, terrorists and
criminals may be tried and punished (up to death).
So in conclusion there are no "obligations".
\- fine. if there are no obligations than
"the media" has no obligations not to
publish these. in addition to looking
backwards toward the "obligations" how
about considering the "repurcussions".
do you think it would be better if the
non-american press covered this and the
us press was silent?
\_ Yes obviously the policies should
be reconsidered but that does not
necessitate invoking Geneva. What
I am speaking to is the use of this
by the media as a political tool
to bludgeon the President and
by extension the effort in Iraq. What
will happen is the media will continue
to leak photos until the election in
an effort to recreate Vietnam. Its
disgusting, transparent, and
treasonous. I would gladly trade a
Bush loss and Iraq victory. The Dems have
decided to do anything to win, country
be damned.
\- arent you conflating "the dems" and
"the press". let me ask you this:
if corporations can take out ads
and write checks to parties and
congresspersons, why cant editorial
boards express their opinions?
what change to the status quo are
you recommending. it's not like
BUSH CO is saying "lets wait for the
legal process to work" ... they are
certainly promoting their "few bad
apples" position. you know the 1st
amd doesnt just apply to rep senators
from oaklahoma.
\_ dems = the press. whats the problem
with that statement?
\_ No problem with editorial boards.
To pretend the media has no
left bias is patently absurd.
So you trot out the totemic evil of
the GOP - the corporations - igoring
the largest constuencies of the Dems,
trial lawyers and unions. Unlike
the left, I have no delusions about
politicians who 'care' for the little
guy. I operate from simple principles
extolled by the founders: government
is inherentely evil.
\_I hold it to be self-evident that
you're a fucking idiot.
\_ Lawyers gave more money to Bush
than Gore, and corporations gave
an order of magnitude more money
to republicans than unions gave
to democrats. -tom
\_ source? I don't think you
know what you are talking about.
\_ http://opensecrets.org works. Labor
has given $90m in each of
the last 2 election cycles.
Add up the corporate sectors
and the order of magnitude
claim holds true. The site
groups lawyers and lobyists,
but on
http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/sector/AllCands.htm
his claim again holds true.
--scotsman
\_ Then how is it that the
Bush and Kerry campaigns
have roughlt the same
amount of money when you
add in proxy groups such
as http://moveon.org? Got math?
\- making hay out of something like
does BUSH go to his daughters
graduation is silly and probably
deperate partisanship. The AbuG
Show is not a "vast leftwing
conspiracy". Maybe the legit
press has a leftwing bias but
the right uses media as a means
too, eg. the fake press reports.
if you cant tell the difference
between the WP and partisan
hacks, you are simply not use-
ful to talk to. The WP editor
above is hardly Michael Moore.
Why dont you also add "all the
climate scientists are leftwing
freaks, as are development
economists and most law profs."
\_ Well, yes, that would be
true. They mostly are.
\_ Which is directly opposite of what Rumsfeld has
stated this week. You don't keep up all that well
do you...
\_ To clarify on what this person just said,
Rumsfeld's subordinate said that the Geneva
Conventions apply to Iraq (but not Guantanomo).
\_ They are bowing to political
expendiency. You can read it
yourself, article 4 is very clear:
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm
\_ So, have you read the URL yet?
\_ Why don't all of you understand? The geneva conventions applies
to America only to the extent it protects our soldiers, because
we are the good guys. Why we are acting on order of God and
punishing the bad guys, it does not apply to us.
\_ Not hard core enough to me.
\_ Why do you bother writing sarcastic nonsense like this? You're
not going to get a real response that will further debate in any
real way. Does it make you feel good to spit in the wind? It's
just you and the echos when you go off all frothy. |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Uncategorized] UID:30355 Activity:moderate |
5/21 Anybody know what happened to the .ORG name servers?
\_ They've been fucking up for weeks. Last I saw, they stopped
passing AA flags with top level requests. |
| 2004/5/21 [Transportation/Car] UID:30356 Activity:nil |
5/21 Two related questions: Is there any program or method that allows
you to scan in an image, and then separate the image into its
different components/shapes (i.e. if a picture of a car was
scanned it, it would then separate out the tires, body, etc,
and give each one a handle that could then be moved around,
scaled, etc)? Second, is there any relatively inexpensive Windows
program that allows you to do simple animation? Thanks.
\_ write one
\_ This is vision-complete, which is AI-complete. There are some
papers on solving some small versions of this problem. -- ilyas
\_ Thanks, but I'm looking for simple software out there
already (if they even exist) to help someone who wants
to create some animation.
\_ If you find such a program, let me know please, I have
some uses for such a program myself. -- ilyas
\_ closest you can get in non-research sw is "magic wand" |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Science/GlobalWarming, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:30357 Activity:nil |
5/21 Sen. Inhofe: Taxpayer Funded Radicals Unethical
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/21/144238.shtml
Federal Grants Awarded to Environmental NGOs, 1997 -2001
http://www.sovereignty.net/p/ngo/ngochart.shtml |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:30358 Activity:nil |
5/21 What is a good windows program for reducing the size (in
pixels) of all the jpegs in a particular directory? Irfanview
does exactly this for an individual jpeg, but I have to do
each one manually. I would like to reduce the physical
size of 1000 pictures to, say, 40% of original size, all
in one, or even a few, keystrokes.
\_ ImageMagick mogrify (I don't know if it does windows)
\_ I think the poster asked for a "windoz" program. JPEG Resizer:
http://software.virtualzone.de/resizer
\_ Thanks!
\_ Irfanview does this too.
File > Batch > Set Advanced Options > Resize |
| 2004/5/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:30359 Activity:high |
5/21 Yep, and there it is... motdedit + motdedit2 + self righteous morons
over writing other people's edits "because those other people didn't
use motdedit like me so it's ok!" and now the motd is an unreadable
fucking mess. Can anyone explain to me how all this shit is better
than when people just edited the damned thing directly or merged new
edits with their own copy as necessary? I don't understand how anyone
can think this current situation is better than before we had all
these scripts.
\_ OP here to clarify: I'm saying broken pseudo revision control has
resulted in a far bigger and unreadable mess than when the only
rc was people kindly manually merging recent changes back in. Now
we have a bunch of pricks who don't bother because they used some
script or other method that they have self determined to be the one
true way and thus 1) are still blowing away other people's edits,
2) don't feel guilty about it, 3) even worse they feel self
righteously proper destroying other people's edit. The various
motdedit scripts also have the problem of mis-merging shit back in.
There are bad merges. There are things that *should* have been
deleted (due to age, etc) that get restored, there are partial dupes
of threads within other threads. Motdedit has problems we've all
seen. Motdedit2 simply has different problems. I don't want the
cowardly censors deleting my shit but I also don't want it munged
or mis-restored either. Why can't we all just get along? It just
isn't that hard. Technology will not solve this problem. It's a
people problem, not a scripting cleverness problem. --op
\_ I don't understand how anyone who has ever worked on shared
files can think that having no revision control is better than
having revision control.
\_ I think the guy is saying that no revision control is better
than broken revision control.
\- this is not a technology problem. the problem is the people
who delete stuff they dont want to see, or people too lazy
to merge stuff. i use emacs to edit the motd and if i get a
warning the file has changed, i revery and yank my changes
back in. i dont need to use something like motdedit. you
cant prevent the write over problem and continue to allow
people to "expire" article and anonymity ... at the moment
it is expensive to de-anonymize and only possible in the case
of automated hosage. i think that is fine. --psb
\_ it's not at all expensive to de-anonymize. You put the
file under CVS. Problem solved.
(incidentally, you just blew away one of my posts) -tom
\-i dont think so. i dont think you
follow how the emacs saving works.--psb
\_ For some reason tom's real paranoid
about people nuking his posts...
probably because he does this so
often himself. -- ilyas
\_ tom? blowing away other people's
posts? how can that be? it seems
impossible that such an open
minded, intelligent, educated, and
all around good guy would do such
a hypocritical and horrid thing.
anonymously, no doubt. ;-)
\- i mean to de-anonymize under the current state of
affairs ... where you have to look at lastcomm or
idle times and correlate. i think it is maybe useful
to have this be expensive. --psb
\_ just to clarify what motdedit2 does. It NEVER deletes anything. It
NEVER overwrites other people's post. It NEVER clobbers. Period.
It will ALWAYS guarantee that motd will either be of the
same size, or more. Kapeesh?? -kchang
\- cat >> also never deletes anything. the point is that there are
other tools to edit the motd that do delete things and people
will use them if they are not prevented from doing so [say by
some suid/sgid thing ... not that i am lobbying for that].--psb
\_ ah yes, but motdedit2 has a "restore&merge" feature that
you can run from time to time that'll 1) ensure that your
entry is never deleted 2) ensure that NEW entries are
never deleted 3) easy to use with one command line -kchang |
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