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| 2004/5/13-14 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:30202 Activity:very high |
5/12 nCircle is looking for an experienced software engineer. See
/csua/pub/jobs/nCircle.sweng
\_ so I have been doing java, and I still believe I'm an expert
c/c++ programmer. However, if you ask me what are
the printf format parameters, I doubt I could tell you much
other than %s. So I can definitely get a book on c/c++ and
\_ You are not an expert. You are a fool. Fortunately, you are
dangerous only to yourself.
\_ agree on being a fool part. If you are not making 100k with
an expert skill, you are a fool.
\_ What expert skill? Not knowing printf?
\_ unless you are working with a company that use printf
all day long. Not every app require printf, some you'll
never need it.
start cramming, but I feel like it's pointless. It's like
someone asks me what's the difference between a semaphore and
mutex, I can't really articulate. Then when I really start
doing the kind of work that relates to the topic I can do a
very good job. I am bring this up because I want to understand
in real world how someone like me get around the barrior. My
experiences with a few people at companies is that they can tell
the technicle stuff from cover to cover, but their work is just
horrible. And they work at extremely slow pace; they don't seem to
know how to debug their own code; they use the most inefficient
they use the most inefficient
algorithms (I would have no problem with that if they can deliever
quicker which leaves room for optimization).
\_ I'm in the same boat as you, and have been wondering about
this... Learning/knowing how to learn, instead of just
rememebering details...
\_ If you need to ask, you should go and study the subject
and know the minutiae. There are people who get by
by being brilliant. You are not one of them. If
you are, you wouldn't be here asking if you need to
know something.
\_ C and C++ are quite different from Java. The languages all have
different idioms. Being an expert in Java does not make you an
expert in C or C++, even with a cram session.
\_ All the programming skills are transferable. I was doing
all c/c++ programming for 6 years before switching to Java.
Picked up java without reading a java book. I all did was
have the online Java API in my browser. Now I'm coding with
struts framework with online references. In less than a year
time at the current company I have already developed 3 voice
applications (come in this company without any voice background
\_ well, I'd expect going from C or C++ to Java is easier than
the other way around.
\_ yes, it is. In essence, Java produce bad programmers
because java programmers wouldn't know how to manage
memory efficiently, they'll also most likely run into
alot of memory leaks when trying code c/c++
\_ I think that's silly. Programmers are not
produced by the language. Bad programmers are
bad because they are lazy or dumb or
inexperienced, not because they use
garbage_collected_language_001. -- ilyas
\_ you said you are looking for someone who loves coding instead of
money, does that mean the position will be less than $80K? There's
always a balance between love and bread.
\_ the salary is competitive. -brian
\_ anytime they ask for "lots of passion/$" they're implying
that they want new, clueless fresh out of college grads
who have no idea what they're worth so that they can pay
very little for the biggest bang/bucks. Been there,
done that, and places like this are usually managed by
lame management. In fact, screw the passion. No matter
how interesting/challenging the job is and no matter how
much passion you have, the job will get boring after
4-5 years. The sooner you realize this the better off
you'll be.
\_ agree 100%. Been there done that and still there! No
matter how productive I am, how much I have offerred, no
a sign of appreciation, still counting my clocks. So I'm
also counting clocks.
\_ Yep. Hey kids, work your ass off for 12 hour days because
you believe in the company! We're all a happy family,
work hard but just play harder! Here kid, do this tedious
shit that nobody else wants to deal with, you'll learn a
lot! Oh hey kid we have to lay you off now, bye. |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:30203 Activity:high |
5/13 Crap! Global Cooling!
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA388.html
\_ Crap! A right-wing think tank position paper posing as science!
\_ Crap! They have backed up info, what have you got?
\_ What they have is selective citation of articles
to force a statement they want to hear out of research that
said something else. This is the right wing noise machine at
work. It is a relatively efficient conversion of money into
flim flam. -- ulysses
\_ why are you posting this page from 2/2002 like it's news?
And did you actually read the Science article? It says:
"the positive imbalance [ice being added to the sheet]
is driven not by climate-related changes in
accumulation or melt, but rather by the internal
ice-stream dynamics that led to the stoppage of Ice Stream C."
The article is about how ice flows, not climate change. -tom
\_ How do you separate the two??
\_ Clearly you didn't read the article, or else you
didn't understand it. -tom
\_ Global Dimming!
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/13/science/13DARK.html |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Reference/Religion] UID:30204 Activity:insanely high |
5/13 This is quality:
http://www.jesus-action-figure.com -John
\_ Yeah, quality mocking of over a billion people's religion.
\_ oh, NOW the motd offends you?
\_ fuck 'em. http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
The Catholic church is truly an evil thing. With a brutal
and intolerant history, it doesn't deserve immunity to criticism.
\_ ???
\_ hey man, I'm catholic and though it's tasteless, it's also
freakin' hilarious.
\_ Thank you for censoring the PC crap, so I didn't have to yell
at it.
\_ ??? I think you're blaming the wrong poster.
\_ Restored. I'm willing to debate with haters. If you just
want to froth and rant you'll be ignored.
\_ sort of like how it's "ok" to call someone nigger as long as
you're black, huh? Not. Just because a pseudo-Catholic
finds it funny doesn't mean it's "ok".
\_ Were you this upset at Buddy Jesus in Dogma?
\_ thicken that skin, pal.
\_ will you be calling me nigger, next? you want me to be
a thick skinned nigger so you can feel warm and cozy and
safe in your little nest of hatred?
\_ That you see a parody like that as driven by hatred
is really sad. How would you react to a crucifix
in a large vat of urine?
link:csua.org/u/7aq
\_ Do you have any standing on this issue? If you're
not Catholic, why should you care what jokes
Catholics make about themselves? Just chill out.
\_ Red herring. A non-black calling a black a nigger is
evocative of hundreds of years of slavery and institution-
alized racism, just as a non-Jew calling a Jew a kike is
evocative of anti-Semitism and the sort of thinking that
led to the Holocaust. Catholicism and the general flavors
of Christianity are firmly enough established in positions
of power and acceptance in the world to be fair game to
parody and satire. You can't be the dominant majority
and cry "Discrimination!" every time someone takes a pot-
shot at you.
\_ Ilya to thread in 5...4...3...
\_ Ok, I ll oblige. You can't justify a 'bad thing'
by saying it's done to powerful people. If it's bad,
it's bad all around. Is putting graffiti on a rich
person's car ok? How about breaking his windows?
How about raping his wife? -- ilyas
\_ I think it's yet to be shown that the link was in
any way discriminatory.
\_ So if someone makes a documentary about a lynching
of a famous black person in the south, and someone
makes some action figures, that would be ok, right?
-- ilyas
\_ Like this, it would be off color and possibly
in poor taste, but it's not discriminatory.
If they could manage to make it funny as well,
then that's icing. You may as well get pissed
off at Dave Chappelle's show. Or you can just
laugh. Or you can change the channel.
\_ Yeah, try to market an action figure
featuring a black man, a noose, and a tree.
Think for a second, whether this will fly
or not. You should use your 'but it's not
discriminatory!' defense when the civil
rights people with pitchforks get to your
house. -- ilyas
\_ Package it right, make it clear that it's
parody, and you'll sure as hell find a
market.
\_ Yeah... try it and let us know how it
works out. Is there explicit
indication the Christian stuff in
the link was parody? -- ilyas
\_ Uh, only the whole site.
\_ Explicit?
\_ I want my Ariel Sharon doll with super wall-
building action and tree plowing bulldozer!
\_ Why is this insulting to christians? Why isn't Gibson making
gore entertainment out the passion insulting, and in fact
blasphemous?
\_ It's only unwise to mock religions that breed suicide bombers
\_ Isway itway OKway otay ockmay Islamway inway Igpay Atinlay?
\_ No way, Jose. -- Uday & Qusay |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:30205 Activity:high |
5/13 I just got back from a 10 minute talk by Pat Miller, the flash mob
computing guy, about casual supercomputers. He spoke in general
about the flashmob and how it went. (Another 6 hours and they
probably could've gotten into the top 500.) But more
importantly, how you can have a supercomputer at home. He booted
up off the CD available at http://www.flashmobcomputing.org on 4
chepo machines and got 2 GFlops. With 32 2 Ghz Machines you can
easily get 48 GFlops. Right now the CD doesn't run anything but
LINPACK benchmarks, but people are starting to port their
applications to it. -jrleek
\_ very cool -darin
\_ me too!!
\_ To the person who asked how this is any different from SETA@Home:
The SETI@Home framework is well-suited to applications that do not
require good interprocess bandwidth or latency. A large range of
supercomputing problems DO require both bandwidth and low latency.
This is the first time someone has tried to build a community
supercomputer that can be used for a wide range of problems. The
top500 list is ranked using LINPACK, which does linear algebra. If
you tried runing LINPACK on the SETI network, it would be terrible.
\_ Is this similar to the XGrid thing hyped by Apple?
\_ Except you do it with random non-homogenous computers.
\_ You mean flashmob can connect CPUs other than pentium? |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:30206 Activity:kinda low |
5/13 Anti-oursourcing movement: http://tinyurl.com/29paf |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:30207 Activity:high |
5/13 Solaris Q: a friend needs to run a 32 bit app on a 64 bit solaris
machine. Is there a way to figure out which mode the kernel is in,
and/or to change the mode? Sorry for the vagueness, I'm just wondering
if there's a really easy solution. Thanks
\_ man isainfo. Note: you can run 32-bit apps on 64-bit solaris.
You can also easily google this shit. |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:30208 Activity:high 50%like:12375 |
5/13 Is this zoo for real? (NOT work safe!)
http://zoo-action.com |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:30209 Activity:very high |
5/13 Gore says new movie is about Global warming? isn't it about
the coming Ice Age (which is the reverse of Global warming?)
\_ Sounds like you've got it all figured out. Go buy that
H2 you've always wanted.
\_ Nah, fuck the H2. Go for the M1A1 Abrams. Radiation hardened
AND you can just drive over all the other cars in the event
of a traffic jam.
\_ Nah, H2 is just an overpriced Chevy. Go for the original Hummer.
\_ Gore stated long ago that Earth will become a Greenhouse
planet like Mercury due to Global warming, but recently he
changed it to Global warming bringing upon Ice Age earlier
than usual.
\_ Sure he did.
\_ which movie?
\ "The Day After Tomorrow"
\_ Mercury is a greenhouse planet? Mercury has an atmosphere?
\_ Apparently above poster doesn't know his Venus from his
Mercury - and likely not his asshole from his elbow?
\_ which movie?
\_ "The Day After Tomorrow"
\_ Global warming causes the Gulf Stream -- which brings warmth to
the East Coast -- to stop, causing a premature ice age on both
sides of the Atlantic. The science actually shows that the Gulf
Stream will slow down a little, but will be outweighed by the
effect of greenhouse gases, i.e., global warming.
\_ Jet stream flows west to east, dictates east coast
weather.
\_ You do realize that Gulf Stream != Jet Stream, yes?
\_ No I had no idea, living in several parts of
east coast for 15 years. Thanks, and please
read the aforementioned comment again.
\_ Don't be so defensive, pal -- no insult was
intended.
\_ I'm not your pal. Reading
comprehension is a good thing.
\_ So is topical relevancy, numbnuts.
Apparently fools live on the East Coast
also -- some for 15 years or more!
\_ what does "both sides
of the atlantic" mean to you???
Can you find even find Berkeley
on a map?
\_ Are you freaking retarded? Do
you even know what you're saying?
You can't even post to motd
correctly.
\_ I forgot all about geology, but find the above funny.
\_ depends on which hemisphere, too?
\_ "the science"? What do you mean by outweighed?
The ocean is the biggest factor in temperature regulation,
more than atmospheric stuff. But the interrelated system is
not predictable to any precision. The only concensus of sorts
is that yes, human activities affect global ecosystems and
climates.
\_ I mean exactly what I said. Although it is certainly your
right to argue against global warming models.
\_ "outweighed" is meaningless without more adjectives. do
you mean "the science" says that in spite of a slower
gulf stream, east coast/europe would become warmer? this
in spite of other science which indicates that warmer
atmosphere could cause the gulf stream to go even slower
or basically cease etc. So it's not like they're just
independent things and "the science" cannot predict
exactly what the equilibrium point would be.
\_ I think I should just replace "The science shows" with
"Many global weather models show". I think this is
better, and perhaps would also satisfy you? |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/California, Transportation/Car] UID:30210 Activity:low 53%like:30221 |
5/13 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/040511/480/cajme10205111903 Price of gasoline a little high for California? \_ "Price of gas at a station in Santa Barbara, Calif. Tuesday morning May 11, 2004, was $3.11 for full service, 91 octane. It was later changed to $3.13." Who buys _full service_ gas anywhere? Premium yes, but full service? \_ Old people and others who have trouble standing up and walking. \_ oregon won't let you pump your own gas \_ OMG, another reason why Oregon sux0rs. \_ And yet they pay less for gas than we do... \_ We should totally invade Oregon and steal all their cheap gas. Oh wait... \_ w00t! \_ Not a terrible thing in a rainy state. \_ full service in a rainy state is not terrible... *forcing* people to pay for full service is *always* wrong. \_ It's different from full service, it's called mini service. And Oregonians can alway vote to repeal. \_ Should these people be trusted behind the wheels? Don't get hit by them when you're on the sidwalk! \_ It's a luxury. People who couldn't give a damn about how much it costs to fill the H2 can spend the extra bucks to have someone making minimum wage to check their oil, wash their windows, and check their tires. Such places exist... \_ Most people driving an H2 can't afford full service. |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:30211 Activity:very high |
5/12 The Revolution Will Not Be Blogged
http://www.mojones.com/commentary/columns/2004/05/04_200.html
(why blogs suck as political force, basically)
\_ here's a shock; masturbation sucks as a political force, also. -tom
\_ I disagree. There are a ton of wankers in politics.
\_ but outside the ASUC, it won't get you elected. -tom
\_ did someone get elected to ASUC for masturbating?
\_ Can you prove there is no God?
\_ it's a reasonable question, dammit. tom made it
sound like there's a story there, and i want to
hear it.
\_ I think there was a "Masturbation Party" a few
years back. I don't know if they won. -tom
\_ And I wasn't invited?
\_ You were, but you didn't come.
\_ You're a founding member. We signed you
up while you were "busy" pushing your
"political agenda".
\_ That is what this guy gets for spending all his time reading
echo chambers. Blogs have already proven to be good fundraising
tools. |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:30212 Activity:low |
5/12 Cold Turkey, by Kurt Vonnegut (05/12/04)
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0512-13.htm |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:30213 Activity:moderate |
5/13 Leaking self-doubt: How the military outed its own scandal
http://www.spiked-online.com/articles/0000000CA521.htm
\_ Whatever. The military was in the middle of conducting an
investigation and was preparing a PR release when CBS found out
about it and had to scoop the story to make it look like some
all purpose military conspiracy to hide the truth. They were asked
to hold back on the photos until the military could get their report
out (roughly 1 week) but this is CBS. Not exactly the home of good
journalism. So some shmucks at CBS played 'gotcha!' and won
because you can't fight the media on their own turf. Think CBS is
going to spend a lot of time highlighting all this?
\_ How is this not good journalism? Should the media always self
censor at the request of the government? |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:30214 Activity:very high |
5/12 First Court Martial Defendant Details Prison Abuse
http://csua.org/u/7aw
Sivits, who according to sources is expected to plead guilty at a
court-martial proceeding next week in Baghdad ... maintained,
according to the documents, that all of this was done without the
knowledge of their superiors in the Army chain of command. "Our
command would have slammed us," he said. "They believe in doing the
right thing. If they saw what was going on, there would be hell to
pay." ... All the other soldiers are expected to plead not guilty.
... But Sivits stressed that it was Graner and Frederick who led the
small band of guards in their nightly revelries. "I was laughing at
some of the stuff that they had them do," he conceded. "I was
disgusted at some of the stuff as well. As I think about it now, I
do not thing any of it was funny." Asked specifically what was not
funny, he said, "the tower thing" - referring to prisoners being
forced to strip and form a pyramid on the floor.
\_ If they all knew it was wrong, and knew they would get in
trouble... WHY THE FREAK DID THE PHOTOGRAPHI IT? How stupid
can you be?
\_ yer tellin me (NY Post:)
"[Pfc. Lynndie England ] was having sex with numerous partners.
It appeared to be consensual," said a lawmaker who saw the
photos. And, videos showed the disgraced soldier ... engaged in
graphic sex acts with other soldiers in front of Iraqi prisoners
... "Almost everybody was naked all the time" ... Many members
of Congress left the 45-minute viewing session early, thereby
missing the porno performance by England, but there were enough
other images of torture, humiliation and intimidation to sicken
anyone. ... Rep. Jane Harman (Calif.), ranking Democrat on the
House Intelligence Committee, said she was most appalled by a
video of a handcuffed prisoner beating his head against a wall
in an apparent bid to knock himself unconscious to escape abuse.
\_ Having sex with other soldiers on film is stupid but hardly
torture by the geneva convention. Why even bother reporting
this?
\_ This is contradictory to what other accused soldiers claimed.
Maybe he has been softened up by a plea bargain or other tactics?
\_ It's also possible that soldiers pleading innocent are just
trying to get a lighter sentence by claiming it was leadership's
fault. It could also be that Rumsfeld / the Pentagon accepted
only Sivits' story, and ignored everyone else's.
I sure hope the full investigation resolves this.
\_ This isn't your sissy civilian court where they are trying to
get through as many pimps and drug pushers in an hour as
possible. The military doesn't need to 'plea bargain' with some
dip shit junior grade nobody. The guy isn't even a minor
officer. IIRC, he was in the reserves. Sheesh. He isn't
getting off easier in any way by pleading guilty. There is no
deal. Ditch the tinfoil hat.
\_ Do you think they'll give any of them the death penelty?
I'm unfamiliar with current military law, but it seems
like the right situation. |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:30215 Activity:high |
5/12 SQL question. Let's say I want to perform an outer join, like
"SELECT a.column FROM a LEFT OUTER JOIN b ON a.column=b.column
WHERE b.column='hello'"
and I get a list of column from table a. But the following doesn't
work where I want to delete all of the rows in a selected by the above:
"DELETE FROM a LEFT OUTER JOIN b ON a.column=b.column
WHERE b.column='hello'"
How do you get around this? Thanks.
\_ Your select statement is equivalent to
select a.column from a.column='hello'.
perhaps you're joining on a different column?
\_ sorry, yes, all columns are unique, I forgot to make it clear.
So if they're all unique column how would this be done? ok thx
\_ You're saying the solution below doesn't work?
\_ I think you want something more like
DELETE FROM a WHERE a.col=b.col AND b.col2="hello".
\_ Wouldn't you need to do
DELETE FROM a WHERE a.col IN
(SELECT col FROM b WHERE b.col2='hello')
-geordan
\_ why are you left outer joining and then filtering out the stuff
that don't have a match in b? |
| 2004/5/13-15 [Computer/Theory] UID:30216 Activity:high |
5/12 can someone reccomend a numerical analysis text? i never took numerical
analysis as an undergrad, and i need to solve some heat transfer
equations numerically. something that is readable and also a good
reference would be great. thanks.
\_ A common one is "Burden and Faires". There is another equally
common one I have forgotten but will remember.
\_ Burden and Faires is the one we used when I TA'd 128a. It may
be too basic for your needs, and I thought it wasn't a very
good book in any case. Have you checked Numerical Recipes in C?
Again, I don't know if it will have anything that applies to
your specific problem, but is a good reference for lots of
different things: http://lib-www.lanl.gov/numerical/bookcpdf.html
\_ There are some errors in NRi* books. Caveat Emptor.
\_ Are you sure? I was under the impression that they had
improved in the 2nd editions. Granted, much of the
research in them is behind the times.
\_ that's very helpful. thanks! -op
\_ Be careful. The license for the NR* books is incredibly
restrictive.
\_ afaik, there are no particularly great num analysis texts out there,
or not in english anyway. burden & faires is okay, but has quite
a few errors, some in algorithm pseudocode, which can be
particularly annoying. just something to keep in mind.
\_ Numerical Recipes in Fortran, Pascal, C, C++, Cobol^H^H^H^H^H
\_ Fire up Mathematica and plug it in. |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:30218 Activity:insanely high |
5/13 how does a non-student get into Moffitt?
\_ by being real sneaky-like...
\_ Act like you sohuld be there, when asked for ID mention you left
your wallet at home. Helps if you have a bag and look student aged.
\_ join cal alumni. or just ask 'em.
\_ I believe there are "friends of the library" who have access,
as well as library cards for non-university folk. Or just go
on a tour and cut out to the "bathroom"
\_ partha is that you?
\_ psb would have said "how does a non-student get into MOFFITT?"
\- He would have also found some\
way to fuck up the motd format.
\_ psb is the librarian!
\- i can get into any building. i got into an MIT library by
climbing 4 stories up a ventilation shaft. --psb |
| 2004/5/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:30219 Activity:high |
5/12 GOD DAMNIT!!! How many hours a week does American Idol have to be on?
\_ zero, if you turn off your TV.
\_ That's my strategy, must say, it works for AI, and
oprah and reality TV shows and all sorts of drivel.
\_ That show is so stupid. Why do so many people like it? -troll
\_ how is that a troll? that show IS stupid.
\_ Too many. It was an amusing season 1 idea but now....
\_ try getting a life.
\_ How do you suggest that I "get a life"? By watching the that
stupid show? I already do that involuntarily.
\_ Yes, all those people who participate in and watch American
Idol should really get a life.
\_ Mr. Hung did by doing so. |
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