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2004/4/26 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:13375 Activity:nil
4/25    I've got top saying that 100% of the cpu is being used 70% user 30
        system.  But the processes it lists aren't using anywhere close to
        100% cpu cumulatively.  Is there some other way to see what is eating
        upt the cpu?
        \_ Either hacker processes or the kernel, and also top isn't always
           right.....
        \_ It is an MP machine? Top doesn't work very well with MP machines,
           for obvious reasons.
2004/4/26 [Uncategorized] UID:13377 Activity:nil
4/26    Teacher threatened with cookie:
        http://www.wjactv.com/education/3031940/detail.html
2004/4/26 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:13378 Activity:nil
4/26    I am not a liberal, but I am wondering about the relationship between
        GWB and Condi Rice.  I have come across opaque reference to the "very
        close/special personal relationship between them" several times in
        mainstream news articles.  Then comes the famous slip:
                http://tinyurl.com/2vxv5
        that even made its way to freerepublic (as of now).  What's your take?
        \_ Dr. Rice's warmongering is, imho, criminal and it is my hope
           to see her on trial at the Hague in some distant future. Having
           said that, I'm disappointed with the innuendo surrounding her
           professional/personal relationship with Dubya (for the record
           -- they are NOT having an affair!). One of the dubious pleasures
           of observing a black woman with real power & visibility was
           assuming Dr. Rice was treated as an individual and not subjected
           to the usual racial stereotypes of black women as hypersexual
           dynamos (a NY Times article about her choice of hosiery aside).
           Guess I didn't hold my breath long enough. --elizp, a fly Pinay
        \_ I've made stupider slip ups in casual conversation, that
           consisted of no more than "I was talking to [insert random
           person handle here] the other day..."
           \_ Condi isn't married, that makes the "husb-- President" comment
              a bit odd.
              \_ Umm.. no it doesn't.  Before I was married a once call a
                 female friend of mine "my wife."  I meant to say "my
                 friend" but some how the wrong word got out.
                 \_ I would expect Bush to make a slipup like that, but we
                    probably wouldn't notice it hidden amongst the other 5
                    slipups in whatever sentence he was uttering at the time.
        \_ Where is that picture of Bush kissing Rice on the neck and her
           eyes half closed in ecstasy? I keep posting it, but some Bush
           droid keeps censoring it. I can't find the URL now.
           \_ Here you go:
              http://www.radioholes.com/images/rh0002.gif
              \_ That's on the cheek, you tease.
        \_ http://www.culturekitchen.com/archives/000647.html
        \_ I think Condi is hot! You may see her in a contest against
           Hillary.
2004/4/26 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13379 Activity:nil
4/26    How do I use sed or perl, etc. to delete all lines from a file
        before or after some pattern.  For example, in vi, I could type
        /<pattern>dG or 1Gd/<pattern>.  But how do I put this into a
        script?
        \_ I believe sed '/<pattern>/d' will do what you want.
           \_ No, that only deletes the line with the pattern.  It doesn't
              do anything to the lines before or after it.
              \_ Sorry.  Misread the question.
        \_ in perl you want something like:
           $skip = 0;
           open(INFILE,$infile);
           open(OUTFILE,">$outfile");
           while (<INFILE>) {
                $skip = 1 if (/[pattern]/);
                print OUTFILE $_ unless ($skip);
           }
           close (INFILE);
           close (OUTFILE);
           \_ one line form:
              perl -ni -e'$skip=1 if /PATTERN/; print unless $skip' FILENAME
                Change "unless" to "if" if you want to print after the PATTERN
              \_ Thanks.
        \_ manning sed should reveal addresses. you can do:
            sed '/moo/,$d'
           to delete all lines after finding a line that matches the regexp
           /moo/. -ali
2004/4/26 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:13380 Activity:nil
4/26    Kerry doesn't own an SUV, his family does:
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4009850,00.html
        \_ Oooh!  Tell us about Roger Clinton!
        \_ Funny how he both uses his wife as a dodge, by saying it's not
           really *his* car, and sets himself up as a hero for buying
           an American car.  So, is owning a Chevy SUV good or bad Mr.
           Kerry?
        \_ 'Cos when your own candidate is suffering due to a war he created
           and the lies he told, it's best to point to his opponent's car.
           \_ The point here is that Kerry lied about owning the car
              because he didn't want to look bad. He should've just told
              the truth. He is a career politican in the worse sense.
        \_ 1 SUV is less expensive than 80 billion to invade iraq
              \_ unlike Bush?
              \_ Oh Bullpucky. I hate my wife's car and would sell it in
                 a hearbeat if I could, but since she bought it before
                 we were married I just have to put up with it. I am sure
                 with a millionaire wife, she can buy whatever car she
                 likes, with or without her husbands permission. It is not
                 "his" car unless he drives it. Does he drive it?
              \_ This is just sad.  The man's wife's car is about as relevant
                 to this campaign as Laura Bush's formerly liberal ideals.
                 \_ As I pointed out above, I don't care what he drives,
                    but the fact that he's making such pathetic attempts
                    to lie about it.  Not to mention, but since they are
                    married, it IS "his" car.
                    \_ I am pretty sure married people can own property
                       seperately. Am I wrong here?
                       \_ For those who espouse traditional family values
                          as republicans do, marriage is an absolutely form
                          of bondage.  Yes.
                          \_ Don't be an idiot.  It has nothing to do
                             with republicans.  They didn't set up the
                             marriage and divorce laws.
                    \_ When you get married to an independent woman, check
                       back in with us.  Until then, get a life.
                       \_ So says the same sort of idiot that put in place
                          the "divorce means the woman gets half the man's
                          stuff" laws.  According to the law, just
                          property is jointly held.  (Unless they have a
                          prenup that says otherwise.)
                          \_ Which state?  California is a community property
                             state.  How about Massachussetts?  And if you
                             ask me if I support Windows, I'll tell you no,
                             because I own and use a Mac exclusively; my
                             wife's PC is nothing to do with me, despite my
                             community property interest.  This is pure
                             bullshit semantics.
                          \_ You don't know what you are talking about:
                             http://csua.org/u/72l
                             "Separate property is property that each spouse
                              owned before the marriage. Separate property
                              also includes inheritances and gifts (except
                              perhaps gifts between spouses) acquired during
                              marriage. During and after the marriage, each
                              spouse may keep control of his or her separate
                              property." She came into the marriage worth
                              $400M, surely she is able to afford to buy
                              her own seperate car, unless they have
                              comingled their accounts. Do you have any
                              evidence otherwise?
2004/4/26 [Transportation/Car] UID:13381 Activity:nil
4/26    I read somewhere that you can't buy regular deisel cars in California
        (eg, the VW Jetta TDI).  Is this true?  I've seen a lot of good things
        about VW's deisel line and I'm mildly interested in buying.
        \_ There is a limit allowed sold per year, it is an air quality
           law.  Generally the TDIs run out around mid year, you should still
           be able to get one.
        \_ What with improved gas milege and better scrubbers and such for
           deisel cars, do they still pollute more than gasoline cars, and
           how much more?
           \_ Fuel prices for deisel are often higher than straight gas.  Be
              care what you wish for.
              \_ It's often cheaper too, due to lower federal taxes.
              \_ What the crap are you responding to?
2004/4/26 [Health] UID:13382 Activity:nil
4/26    Mary-Kate Olsen on drug addiction:
        "If I had a drug addiction, I would be in a thingy--like Promises, the
        Malibu [rehab] place. You don't see me there. So, like, come on. It's
        crazy."
2004/4/26 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:13383 Activity:moderate
4/26    NYTimes is running an editorial promoting marijuana decriminalization
        http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/26/opinion/26SCHL.html
        \_ An article written by Eric Schlosser.
           'Eric Schlosser is the author of "Fast Food Nation" and "Reefer
            Madness."'
           Just so's you know.
           \_ Right.  Thanks for the correction.
              \_ how is this a correction? is the piece no longer on
                 http://nytimes.com because Eric Schlosser wrote it?
                 \_ Someone performed sed s/editorial/article/ on my post.
                    \_ It's neither an article nor an editorial. It's an
                       op/ed piece.
        \_ Has anyone been able to get nytimes working with the web browser
           links?  I can do it with lynx, but not links.  tia.
        \_ Wow.  Was it really necessary ot modify my posting like 4 times? -op
           \_ Yes.  It is easier for the weak minded to modify your post
              instead of replying intelligently to it.  When my posts are
              modified I accept it as complete and total victory over the
              vastly inferior intellects that invest the motd.
2004/4/26 [Consumer/Audio] UID:13384 Activity:nil
4/26    If my closing date on a condo is 5/31, is there any way to order DSL
        for it through Speakeasy and get the free iPod, given that the deal
        expires on 4/30, or am I just ass-out?
        \_ Order it and schedule installation for after 5/31.
        \_ Not seeing this free iPod offer on http://Speakeasy.net....
           \_ http://speakeasy.net/promos/bribe/?source=hp
              \_ You're willing to pay ten bucks more a month for four more
                 email addresses and an iPod?  Dood, yr getting played.
                 Even if you drop them when your 2-year contract runs out,
                 they're still only out $50.
2004/4/26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:13385 Activity:nil
4/26    Jordan Foils Chemical attack making the rounds again.
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1124697/posts?q=1&&page=51
        \_ Jordan's VX attack == Chemical attack
           and I've seen only one URL which said "VX"
2004/4/26 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13386 Activity:nil
4/26    How do i rewrite alias ff='find . -name "!*" -print' in bash? thx
        \_ You need to use a shell function to emulate that behavior in
           general, but for your example, the -print is redundant anyway, so
           alias ff='find . -name' would suffice.
        \_ Bash?  Why would you convert to a useless bastardised shell like
           that?  Gach! Ptooey!
2004/4/26 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:13387 Activity:nil
4/26    Most spams/frauds are easy to spot, but what if someone from Africa
        wrote you with professing interest in buying stuff that your biz
        advertises?  Should one discount everything from Africa?
        \_ Has anyone ever actually replied to one of those spam emails
           asking for help transferring funds?  What happens when you contact
           them?  Do they then ask you for some money?
           \_ there are actually whole websites devoted to this topic. there
              are pictures of these people posing with the nigerians too.
              stfw for 419 related stuff.
           \_ http://419eaters.com is my favorite.
        \_ I would personally not take the risk, since it is probably 90%
           likely to be a scam. But if you do decide to do business with
           an unsolicited customer from overseas, make sure you have cash
           in hand before sending merchandise. Not a cashiers check, either.
           \_ Seconded.  You could also use an escrow agent.
              \_ Use http://www.escrow.com I was ripped off by a phoney escrow
                 agent that a seller suggested to me.
           \_ What's wrong with a cashier's check?
              \_ They can be faked.  Even if your bank puts the money in your
                 account, then can still take it back if the check comes back
                 phoney.
                 \_ Damn!  I didn't believe this, googled a bit.  That's pretty
                    depressing, so many gotchas out there... *sigh*
                    http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html  So is there any
                    way to quickly check whether a cashier's check is valid or
                    not?  Why can't this be immediate?
                 \_ Did you hear about the guy who got $100K in cash from
                    a phony check?
                    \_ Yeah! And then she dried her dog off in the microwave
                       oven and he exploded and turned into an alien and ate
                       her spine!
                       \_ Uhm, it's actually a pretty well documented story.
                 \_ I always thought cashier's check is as good as cash, and
                    that when I send out one I always assumed it's gone.
                    Guess regulations are always designed so that only
                    criminals can take advantage of it.
2004/4/26-27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:13388 Activity:nil
4/26    Trying to compile Perl on Darwin, I'm stuck on this line:
        ar -rc bar2.a bar2.o bar1.o
        Any reason why? ok thx
        \- did you run into problems with the case-insensitivity on the
           mac file system? that's probably a different problem but somthing
           i ran into building perl a while ago. --psb
           \_ Starting with 10.3, you can turn "on" case-sensitivity on HFS+,
              but there is no gurrantee that it won't create more problems
              than it solve.  By the way, how did you manage to compile perl
              eventually?
              \- the general view seems to be fmting the fs with
                 the case sensitivity option is asking for trouble as a
                 number of tools dont expect this, such as some backup
                 software. re: perl ... not's not hard to get around once
                 you figure out what is doing on, e.g. configure = Configure =
                 CONFIGURE. --psb
        \_ mac osx doesn't have perl included as a default??
           \_ he's referring to Darwin, not OS X.
2004/4/26 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:13389 Activity:nil
4/26    US warns Taiwan not to perceive pledge of defense as blank check
        http://csua.org/u/72p (NYTimes: csuamotd/csuamotd)
        \_ thank you for the csuamotd!! now i can read NY times!!
           \_ and numerous other pseudo-free registration sites.
        \_ Yeah, that and all the other news I've been reading still suggests
           that the U.S. doesn't think Taiwanese independence is worth it;
           if Taiwan wants to break the status quo by pushing for formal
           independence, we might break away from the Taiwan Relations Act --
           there is only one China
           \_ If it comes down to it, I don't think it's worth it either.
              The status quo works.  I don't want to get into a war with
              China over a semantic pissing match.
           \_ The current status quo only works up to now because it is based
              on the assumption of a static model that the 2 sides are on
              equal military footing.  However, the situation across the TW
              Strait is dynamic one. With recent missiles build up in CN,
              CN is estimated to have the capability to invade and take TW
              by 2006-2008.  TW's current administration is under time
              pressure to take some form of action by then.  One scenario is
              an outright formal independence.  Another one is unification
              under CN's one-china terms.  The current status quo is
              unlikely to be able to last for another 10 years.
              \_ "With recent missiles build up in CN, CN is estimated to
                 have the capability to invade and take TW by 2006-2008" --
                 this is the first time I've seen this, and I read a lot
                 of stuff.  "TW's current administration is under time
                 pressure to take some form of action by then".  Have you
                 considered that a vastly more important factor could be that
                 Chen's term will be up by then so he's trying to get the
                 change in while he can, since Ma, KMT's probable candidate,
                 will probably win in 2008 and follow this with dropping any
                 pro-independence measures in progress?
                 \_ Actually this quote suddenly appeared on some newspaper
                    from Taiwan today, ostensibly quoting Jane's, which, as
                    I recall, has always been giving fuzzy statements like that
                    not just on China but just about any contentious subject,
                    but the dates keep changing.
2004/4/26 [Recreation/Humor] UID:13390 Activity:nil Cat_by:rory
4/26    List your favorite South Park series:
                                      \_ You mean episode?  I have only 1
                                         favorite South Park series.
                                                \_ and what is that?
        \_ Chinpokimon
           \_ Chinpokomon.
        \_ Japanese Cartooned South Park (Butter's Eyes got poked out)
           \_ "Fun with Weapons"
        \_ Christian Rock (Cartman leads)
        \_ Mr. Jefferson (Michael Jackson)
        \_ Casa Bonita
        \_ Mecha-Streisand
        \_ Scott Tennorman Must Die
2004/4/26 [Reference/History/WW2/Germany] UID:13391 Activity:nil
4/26    I don't understand this whole Axis deal. I mean, what does Germany
        have in common with Japan? Food? Language? Georgraphic location?
        No, no, no, and no! What the heck were Hitler/Hiro thinking?
        \_ They both believed in dominating "inferior" peoples by force
           of arms for "living space", and exterminating/experimenting on
           said "inferior" people.  Natural allies.
           \_ Sorta like the Europeans and the Native Americans?
              \_ Dang straight.  Only problem with the theory was
                 that they tried on superior people.
                 \_ Wow, the motd is full of intelligent people....  This
                    reminds me of one post that said that the (west) indians
                    created thanksgiving to show their gratitude and another
                    that implied that westerners came here only to tax the
                    locals, and I believe they weren't joking or sarcastic.
                 \_ "they" = the axis?  The axis was kicking the allies ass
                    and only lost because Hitler micro managed his superbly
                    top notch generals.
                    \_ The allies' breaking of communication codes was also
                       a big factor against both Japan and Germany. And
                       the battle of britain. But if it had gone on much
                       longer I guess Germany would've gotten nuked. Actually
                       Hitler personally helped screw the BoB too by switching
                       to pointlessly bombing London.
        \_ the "Axis" was Germany and Italy; Japan joined later.
        \_ The heat is unbearable, and you are not helping.
           \_ What do you mean, I'm not helping?
        \_ The axis are the bad guys, like the "axis of evil".  The good guys
           are the allies.  Mysterious evil strangers in a foreign land
           who would compromise the American Dream?  Axis.
           \_ Germany and Italy made up the name themselves.
              \_ If we want to be anal, the URL below says Hungary came up
                 with "axis" first for Italy, Germany, and Hungary, but no
                 one used it.  Mussolini popularized it, and he used axis to
                 mean Germany and Italy.  Then in 1940 there was a
                 "Three-Power Pact" which included Japan; all three
                 countries would cooperate "to establish and maintain a new
                 order of things".  Probably Roosevelt at some point decided
                 to start throwing around "Axis powers".
           \_ Wrongo, boyo.
              http://csua.org/u/72n
              \_ While the historical origin of "axis" is such, the usage
                 as applied today is as originally stated
                 \_ Useless dodging.  We're all too smart for that.
                    \_ I'm not sure what point we're arguing, but
                       I did post something above ("If we want to be anal").
        \_ They were both running up against the British empire and the US.
           The Brits and Americans and French were screwing around all over
           Asia. It's the same kind of alliance as France-Russia, where they
           have a mutual enemy between them but no possible conflicts.
           \_ There were liberators and opponents of the British hegemony.
2004/4/26 [Finance/CC] UID:13392 Activity:nil
4/26    http://www.csua.org/u/72a
        \_ Unclear on what a Devian is.  I know what a Tart is, though.
2004/4/26-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13393 Activity:nil
4/26    InterScan jobs at GlobalVR.  see /csua/pub/jobs/GlobalVR
2004/4/26-27 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:13394 Activity:nil
4/25    Did the motd just get too long to leave my tech Q up?  Anyone out
        there want to clue me in on how to check kernel cpu usage?  I
        assumed that would be part of top's "system" cpu numbers. no?
        \_ If memory serves, nobody had a usefull answer.
        \_ http://csua.com/?entry=13375
        \_ ps
2004/4/26-27 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:13395 Activity:nil
4/26    Someone is using my domain as a return address to send a whole
        lot of spam (if the bounce messages I am receiving are any
        indication of quantity).  I know this because I receive any
        mail sent to my domain.  Is there anything that I can do about
        this?  The bounce messages are annoying but I am most concerned
        that I will end up on many spam filter black lists as a result.
        Thanks for your useful and humorous suggestions,
                \--mrehrer
        \_ many bounce messages contain the bounced message attached,
           complete with headers. this lets you have some idea of who
           is behind the spam. if you can shut down enough of their
           accounts, maybe they'll get the message and pick on someone
           less troublesome.
           \_ rofl... do you really think they keep their accounts a long
              time in any case?  Do you really think they know, or even care
              who reports them?  No.  They PLAN on having throw away emails,
              hosts, spam relays, etc.
              \_ rofl... you're an idiot. note the part where i said maybe.
                 a lot of this does depend on the particular circumstances,
                 but most spammers do have to perpetually try to stay one step
                 ahead, so why have more meddling than necessary if they can
                 just pick on an easier mark? op may want to try a service
                 like spamcop with a little more clout than the average joe.
           \_ If they're being hosted at a Good place, then sure, you might
              have a chance of shutting them down.  If they're on your system,
              then sure, you can shut them down completely.  If they're just
              using your domain as the nominal return address, and they're not
              hosted by a Good place, you may very well be SOL.  Unless, of
              course, you can find their Snail Mail address and make it
              physically unbearable to continue.
              \_ You may want to contact Matt Seidl (seidl@soda). He involved
                 himself in a lengthy lawsuit over exactly this sort of thing
                 a number of years ago. I don't know how his efforts panned
                 out. He used to keep a web page following events. -- ulysses
                 \_ http://www.wraith.com/seidl/lawsuit
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