4/4     Looking for motd entries prior to 8/30/03. Where to find it? Thanks.
        \_ Need to write in complete sentences!  How to do it?  Thanks!
           \_ Am needing to find goodly English writing books, how to find?

4/4/4   We're all gonna die!!!
        \_ fob alert!
        \_ Are people in China freaking out today because it's 04/04/04?
           \_ we use lunar calendars.
        \_ Yeah whatever.  The cool thing about the numerology calendar
           idiocy is how often the calendar has been arbitrarily changed
           because the universe doesn't allow itself to be evenly divided
           and clocked.  Leap years?  Leap *seconds*?  10 year gap in the
           middle ages?  Sheesh, as if this calendar came from God.

4/3     Set your clocks back 1 hour tonight.
        \_ Funny thing.  My work's buggy software saved me from missing my
           church job this morning.  I have a nagios monitor on a service
           that checks for a random bug in our software, but only have it
           notify me after 7 am.  One machine tripped the bug last night.
           I got the page at... 6am?  OH SHIT!  THAT'S RIGHT!  Thank god for
           buggy code.  --scotsman
        \_ Ahead.  Spring forward!
        \_ maybe someday this will stop pissing me off, but damn i fucking
           hate daiylight savings.  it's like stamp prices.  i don't give a
           shit whether stamps cost 0.59$ or 0.33$ i just don't want to have
           to go to the fucking post office all the time to upgrade to the next
           generation of stamps that's two pennies more expensive.  i don't
           give a shit whether the sun goes down at what the government says
           is 3 pm or what the government says is 9 pm, i just don't want the
           fucking hassle of dealing with this shit twice a year.  I wish
           stamps cost a dollar exactly and that the whole U.S. was on a single
           time zone all the time. i'm ready to stick it to
           the man over this one.  who's with me?
           \_ Suck it up, punk.  If changing a clock or the changing price of
              stamps gets you this riled you must be living easy.
           \_ Sounds like you would like China.  All one time zone.  No
              Daylight Saving (not savings) time.  Western China is the
              same time zone as Beijing.  It's like San Francisco being on
              the same time zone as Maine.  So in the middle of winter the
              sun doesn't come up till like 11am.  And when you cross the
              border with Afghanstan, it's a 3.5 hour time change.
              \_ Daylight Savings is a valid synonym.
           \_ Somebody missed their nappy nap time....
           \_ uh yeah dst sucks. the stamp thing doesn't bother me as much as
              the fact that they allow bulk junkmail spammers at what must be
              a very cheap rate. at my apartment building there's a huge mass
              of junkmail that gets thrown away every week in a big bin. Spam
              sent directly to me is one thing, but the "bomb the neighborhood"
              mailings piss me off. you know what else pisses me off? i could
              rant about the tax system now but i should have been asleep 4
              hours ago.
                \_ Yeah, that pisses me off too about the bulk snail-mail.
        \_ Why? Isn't that what xntpd is for?
           \_ there are many non internet enabled clocks out there.
              \_ What???  What the hell are you talking about??
              \_ It was a joke.
        \_ I actually HATE *STANDARD* time. I much prefer to see one extra
           hour of daylight in the evening since I almost never wake early
           enough to catch up the sun rise.
        \_ I hate when people use PDT during standard time or PST during
           daylight time, as if it makes no difference.  These people
           should just use PT.  It may be ambiguous, but at least it won't
           be wrong.  I mean in places like Indiana (where part of the state
           uses daylight time and part doesn't), it would seem very important
           to specify D or S correctly.  I wonder if the people there are as
           careless about the distinction as the people everywhere else.
           \_ Would you actually get confused when someone misuses this?  That
              seems rather silly.  Have you ever seen someone use S during
              the D period and actually mean it?  Indiana, Arizona, or China?

4/4     I just bought some wireless LAN stuff and googled when I came home. I
        came across WPA, which one of my purchase has.  So is this a big loss?
        With so many WEP only devices out there, is WPA or its successor
        11i really going to take hold?  And is WPA really any better than
        WEP?  (Some slash dot article said otherwise but I lack the technical
        knowledge to judge.)
        \_ WPA is an interim standard.  It's not really been formalized or
           accepted anywhere, and most manufacturers just treat it as an
           step towards 802.11i.  All it really is, usually, is WEP with
           key rotation (typical: 5min interval)--I haven't seen it use AES.
           What's shit though is that only the station-AP unicast connections
           do the key rotation--there's provision for a broadcast key, which
           is still insecure.  And, like with 802.11whatever, all the
           administrative/network management info is still unencrypted and
           unchecked.  So no, it's no loss, but it's not much more than WEP
           security-wise.  You should _not_ rely on _any_ existing wifi
           "security mechanisms" to provide real security--use ipsec over
           it and it won't matter if WEP or WPA or whatever.  -John
         \_ It shouldn't really matter. When a new standard comes out
            you should be able to upgrade your firmware to follow the
            new standard, and AFAIK most WPA enabled stuff should be
            WEP backwards compatible.

4/4     I think it's REALLY cool that we have a formatd. Usually I just post
        shit here without indentation and somehow it gets pretty indented.
        Whoever wrote formatd is COOOOL.
        \_ 1) formatd isn't a program.  2) i only format shit that is slightly
           off but still worth reading.  3) mymom and mydad aren't merely
           COOOOL.  bringing me into the universe was much better than that.
           4) no, i don't touch psb's fucked up "i'm too good to bother" crap.
           5) there is no 5.  6) if you keep posting like an idiot i'll
           eventually get bored of fixing your crap and put you into the psb
           lazy fuck pile or just delete it if it's really bad to save the
           rest of the motd from your stupid shit.  if you're too lazy to
           format properly you're unlikely to add anything of value to the
           motd.
                \- does it handle fucked-up psb-style
                motd formating?
        \_ formatted by formatd
                \_ who wrote formatd and could you please post the source
                   code that pretty prints motd? Thank you very much
        \_ ps -aux |grep formatd
    nobody     114  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  DL   23Mar04   1:09.45  (formatd)
        \_ formatd is a bored sysadm who has OCD
           \_ I don't have OCD.
              \_ Why are you so argumentative?
                 \_ Why are you so overly inquisitive and pushy?

4/4     What's up with these High Speed Dial-up Internet.  Is it a good
        deal?  Does it speed up uploads as well as downloads?
        \_ AFAIK, all it is is a compression addon to whatever PPP thing
           they use.  Graphics/music won't be any faster, and they probably
           won't support !{Windows,Mac}.

4/4     Good frontline, annoying if you don't have broadband.
        http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ordinary/view
        \_ Even the best system is not perfect.  Tough luck.
           \_ It's Bush's fault, right?
                \_ no, but it's people like bush that perpetuate this system
                   \_ So it's Bush's fault.
           \_ best my ass. this is the south.
           \_ Even the best system is not perfect, but ours is far
              from it.  This incident is a good demonstration of many
              of the worst problems including: "prosecutors in robes",
              DAs motivated purely by politics, an over-reliance on
              obviously unreliable "eye-witness" testimony and Plea-
              bargaining, which is at least as likely to result in
              false testimony as true.

4/4     Any opinions (good/bad) on http://InternetTrafficSchool.com?
        \_ I just finished http://tinyurl.com/2qwab and it
        \_ I just finished http://www.trafficschoolonline.com and it
           was really simple and easy. Let's you work on it whenever
           you feel like it. For an extra fee I had them fedex my cert
           to me. I started it on Thursday night, did some more Friday
           night, finished Saturday morning. I had my cert in hand on
           Monday morning and mailed it off to Court right away.
        \_ I took it, it was easy. I finished it too late
           and even though they say they mail your completion
           certificate to your court, they mailed mine to me.
           So it ended up not counting, but I don't really
           blame it on them. I should not have waited until
           the very last possible moment to complete it.
           \_ did you know most courts offer a 10-14 day grace period?
              as long as the cert says it was completed by the due date
              you can still mail it in a couple days later.

4/4     Anyone use Net-Teller before? I signed up and for some reason
        they can't send my signup confirmation email to my @yahoo.com
        account. This is lame.
        \_ what about to a sneakemail account?

4/4     With the mad cleric Mr. Sadr inciting violence, are Shiites
        turning against us?
        \_ who said they were ever with us?
           \_ bush people. these shiites were supposed to be overjoyed.
              \_ I seem to remember right after we toppled the government, a
                 lot of Iraqis were basically saying "Thank you very much!  Now
                 please go home."
                 \_ wouldn't you?  we could've just gone home but the chaos
                    left behind would've been worse for us, them, and everyone
                    else.  just because a few people riot and stomp around is
                    no reason to abandon the rest to barbarity.  we'll go when
                    it's time not when some bomb belt wearing lunatics say so.