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| 2004/3/29 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:12897 Activity:very high |
3/28 Let's take some perspective on Dick Clarke. He was the counter-
terrorism point man through 4 presidents. His ideology, whatever
it may be, obviously wasn't offensive enough for Reagan to appoint
and Bush I to keep. So he voted for Gore. Big fucking deal. He
voted for the VP of the administration that gave him his ear. This
somehow discredits him? Does it not disturb you that his suggestions
and recommendations were abandoned by Bush II? Because he "wrote a
book," his experience is negated? mumble mumble emperor mumble mumble
clothes... --scotsman
\_ It disturbs me that some disgruntled book writer gets so much
positive media attention which plays up his role as if he had
actually had a successful track record and plays down the timing
of his book and his bitter demotion and exit from government.
\_ The only people putting this view of the man forward is the
Bush admin and Bill Frist. You're buying a whole lot. How
many people will they be able to convince you are slimeball
opportunists?
\_ He has a positive track record-- during the Reagan, Bush I, and
Clinton years, no foreign terrorist organization committed an
act of terrorism on American soil. From what it sounds like,
he was demoted for wanting to do his job effectively instead
of pushing the Iraq invasion.
\_ Dude. Remember the first WTC attack? That was during Clinton.
\_ In the first few weeks of his presidency. And led
to his increased watchfulness on OBL. Clarke's point
is that the numbers just weren't high enough for Bush
to take it as seriously as he should have.
\_ Dude. I guess you didn't hear his testimony at the
hearings? The one where he says the Bush Admin wasn't
doing anything about terrorism, even the plan that
was put together under Clinton? Not following their
OWN plan INSTEAD of Clinton's, they were doing
not a thing. Nuthin. Nada.
\_ Chill. I was noting that the first WTC happened under
Clinton. Your attempt to change subjects and ignore
facts has failed. Try again later.
\_ I was actually fortunate enough to meet someone who worked in the
upper echelons of the White House during the Clinton and Bush 2
administration. She said something very similar to what Clarke
said. Basically, Bush really wanted to distance himself from
anything remotely "Clinton" related. Things like Middle East
Peace and Terrorism were Clinton obsessions and so Bush really
wanted to distance himself from them.
\_ Clinton? Focussed on terrorism and the middle east? Clinton
pushed so hard in the middle east that there's a fair argument
to be made that he's partially responsible for the current
uprising (at least the start of it). On terrorism? What was
done after the *first* attack on the WTC? After the Cole? After
2 US embassies in Africa? Nothing. Nothing happened. BC went
on TV and made pretty speeches but there was no intelligence
action, no military action, no diplomacy either in the UN or
country-country. Nothing. "I feel your pain". BFD. If I was
the new President I'd want to distance myself from previous
failure also.
\_ Clinton did plenty of things after every attack
mentioned Your contention that he did "nothing" is a big
fat Republican lie:
http://www.bartcop.com/clinton-terrorism-truth.htm
\_ I just thought that Bush Jr. and his neocons were too busy
start another Cold war, with Russia and China at their
crosshair. The scrap of Ballistic Missle Treaty, dumping
billions on missile defense just couple examples of where is
Bush Jr's priority lies. This is an example of how Bush and
his *STUPID* ideology put entire nation in danger... and he
got high approval rating as result. -kngharv
\_ You do realize that the Soviet's were never in
accordance with the ABM treaty right? It was
meaningless gesture on the part of the NATO (U.S.).
How is theatre missile defense a bad idea? The Airborne
Chemical Laser will be operation in a few years.
\_ And yet, the most likely nuclear attack is a smuggled
in dirty bomb. I'm sure your laser is real cool dude.
\_ This commission is one big let's cover each others asses. That
said I base my opinion in actions not words. Clinton had
eight years, 5 attacks do something, anything. Instead in
every foreign policy arena he simply kicked the can down the
road. What was Clinton's pinacle of foreign policy success?
Kosovo - where we effectively gave muslim insurgents a Balkan
base by bombing Christian Serbs?
I remember repeatedly posting links in 2000 about BC's 'diversity
quilt' policy at the CIA. When Woolsey was head of the CIA
he met with Bill Clinton alone twice, TWICE, in the span of two
years; other administrations this would be weekly. And this
was after the first WTC bombing. The running joke in
Washington was that the Cesna aircraft that crashed into
the White House was Woolsey trying to get a meeting with
Clinton. Sorry. You can whine, spin, and cry all you want but a
review of leftist policy the past 30 years is completely
damning. I've said it before: BC was too busy raising money
from Chicom's and jerking off the Oval Office sink - we now
now see the legacy of the Baby Boomer's quintessential
representative. BC's only anti-terrorism 'success' was immolating
the 'religious fanatics' in Waco.
Clarke was an integral part of BC administration - based on
his testimony is directly culpable.
\_ So you believe spurning our allies and sinking massive
resources into nation building is a foreign policy success?
\_ Good duck! When someone says something and you try to turn
it around and point a finger elsewhere without disputing any
of it, you should understand that you're granting everything
they say is true. Little one-off quips like this are weak.
\_ Pot, kettle... Your answer to the question of Clarke's
credibility, and the terrifying nature of his character-
ization of this administration was "Clinton was a do noth-
ing, sex-mongering hippie". 4 presidents. 4. --scotsman
\_ Way to avoid the question...
\_ The best part was where you define "stopping Milosevic's
genocide" as "giving the muslims a Balkan base". Shine on,
don't ever change.
\_ So you swallow CNN's propaganda wholesale. Fine -
Enjoy your dream world. Even a cursory search
on google for Islam Kosovo Albania is alarming.
\_ The Balkans are a sump. Unfortunately, you are both
right. Rather, I'd give Clinton & co. credit for
helping to prevent an Islamic takeover in Bosnia. -John
\- Helo, I think the way the back and forth went
about "he's fishing for a job in the kerry campaign"
was great, i.e. when Clarke said in front of Congress
"I wont take the job". What some of the slow witted
democratic supporters should have said "Hey, isnt
Condi Rice et al also fishing for a job in the
Bush Admin." I think the "could 9/11 have been
prevented" part of this is a huge distraction.
There is saying "dont make weak arguments your
opponents can win" and 'split the difference' since
it's hard to make the case "well that's not the
important matter" ... they should have kept hammering
in the iraq fiasco. the dems still dont get how to
play dirty. Dan Qualye has no political career/
power now because of low politics. You should
try to do the same to Scalia for example. Lots
of people are talking about whether Cheney is a
liability now etc. --psb
\_ Rice *has* a job and she'll be keeping it. She
doesn't need to sit quietly somewhere after being
demoted for incompetence and then retire just after
her 30th year in government (gotta get that next
big pension hike) and write a book in the middle of
an election from out of nowhere. I find it really
sickening that you want politics to be even dirtier
than they already are. There's a reason the % of
people who vote in this country is so dismal.
\_ You are right -- there is a reason so few
people vote in the US, but it is not because of
dirty politics. It's because of the asinine
pluralality-majority voting system we use.
\_ Are you refering to our Federalist
voting system designed to thwart
dictatorship by the majority?
\_ No, i'm referring to plurality-majority
voting systems (sorry about the typo):
http://tinyurl.com/3c2mq
http://tinyurl.com/36k4w (fairvote)
\_ I wouldn't say is opinion is wothless except he's so OBVIOUSLY
playing partisan politics NOW. I mean, here he is on the one
hand complaing that Bush didn't care enough about terrorism
(like good old Clinton did) and on the other saying Bush told
them to kill Bin Laden at the first opportunity and such.
In other words he says "Bush cared less, did more. BTW Bush
bad." Uhhh right man. Whatever. Besides the plot was almost
entirely underway by the time Bush took office. The fixes
would have had to have been instituted under Clinton to have
done any good. What the heck is with this "On September 9th
I tried to tell Bush that we should pay more attention to
Al-Quieda." Maybe so, but BIG FREAKING DEAL! Little late
by then, don't cha think?
\_ No, he said very little of what you attribute to him here. It's
good to know that your lack of attention to details will assure
\_ I didn't realize Scott McLellan had a csua account. [Delete me
again, and watch your little screed disappear.]
on google for Islam Kosovo Albania is alarming.
helping to prevent an Islamic takeover in Bosnia. -John
me of a job for quite a while. Thank you. |
| 2004/3/29 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:12898 Activity:nil |
3/28 How to connect 2 WinXP machines together to share files? I have
them connected into a hub, and each has the same workgroup name,
but they can't see each other. thanks.
\_ How many times has it been brought up on motd that you don't
start a question with "How to..."? I say this not because
I'm trying to be an ass but because I'm embarrassed when I
go to other countries and they make fun of how bad people's
English is in this country. I'm even more embarrassed that I
graduated from a supposedly world-class university where
people lack command of the English language.
\_ How to speak the English language?
\_ Write everything in the form of a question requiring a boolean
answer, then append P. You will be answered with #t or #f.
\_ How to speaking Engrish goodlyness asking to question on motd?
\_ start|run \\ipaddress\sharename -- network neighborhood is broken
\_ WinXP has something called "Simple File Sharing", accessible through
Windows Explorer -> Tools -> Folder Options -> View. Generally
turning it off resolves my sharing issues (and brings it to
behave more like Win2K -- obGoogle for detailed info). |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:12899 Activity:nil |
3/29 Are there going to be new episodes of Aqua Teen Hunger Force? I heard
the most recent episode was fully titled "The Last One (of 2003)" |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12900 Activity:nil |
3/29 No freedom of press for you:
http://csua.org/u/6n7
\_ But...we have always been at war with East Asia!
\_ s/East Asia/Oceania/ ? |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Recreation/Food] UID:12901 Activity:very high |
3/29 What do these taste like? (chicken, beef)
Horse -
\_ somewhat stringy, but mostly like beef. Like flank steak.
\_ did you have to go to Europe to try this?
\_ When horse eating is outlawed, only outlaws will eat horse!
\_ Japan, actually, and I had it raw.
Whale -
\_ like a very thick venison. Not as good as dolphin IMO -brain
Ostrich - beef. Go to any Fuddruckers for ostrich burger. Lean and
high protein content.
\_ totally. Warning- it's also HEAVY like beef. -brain
Are you chinese? _/
Rabbit - chicken.
- Firmer and gamey-er than chicken. Tasty but lots of bones.
Frog Legs - softer than chicken
\_ kind of like a cross between fish and chicken -brain
Dog - black goat
Escargot - like oyster. Put lots of melted butter to kill the taste
Goat - is it the same as lamb?
\_ No, I can't stand lamb, but like goat.
\_ It depends on how prepared. It's normally gamier than lamb.
\_ what does it mean to be "gamey?"
\_ I'd say it's a combination of tangy, musky, and rich.
Alligator - rubbery. There's a Cajun place in Sac that serves this
\_ kinda like pork... easily overcooked; choose your chef
wisely! -brain
\_ like fish.
Snake - chicken
\_Mine was burnt, but tasted like chicken.
Beaver - Unless it's fresh, kinda like ahi
Soylent Green - yermom
"Long pork" - Like tube steak
Whale Sperm - like Vanilla milk shake
Whale Sperm -
Kangaroo - Gamey
Homosapien -
Homosapien - sweet pork
Placenta -
Antelope - like venison but super gamey and sagey, almost inedible
Venison - like really lean beef but with a gamey skunky quality
Elk - like good lean beef, really delcious
\_ are you a hunter? Where do you hunt? What weapon
do you use?
\_ I'm a Level 6 hunter with a +3 vorpal 7mm rifle. Why?
Moose - ditto, but not quite as lean, so more tender
Bear - a cross between duck and pork, but gamey
Homosapien -
Placenta -
the time I ate it it was way overcooked
\_ How do wild turkeys differ from farmed? |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Consumer/Audio] UID:12902 Activity:nil |
3/29 Has anyone tried skype? |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:12903 Activity:nil |
3/29 Cigarette lighter and ash tray for you PC:
http://www.coolerguys.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=1215
\_ Customers who bought this item also bought:
a pack of marlboros |
| 2004/3/29 [Uncategorized] UID:12904 Activity:nil |
3/29 What classic movie are you most like:
http://similarminds.com/movie.html
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington: .
Schindler's List: .
Apocalypse Now: ..
The Godfather: ..
The Third Man: .
Easy Rider: ..
\_ I changed the response of one question from a Neutral to a Agree
and it went from Easy Rider to Schindler's List. the quiz sucks. |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12905 Activity:nil |
3/29 U.S. Helping bring democracy to Iraq:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/29/international/worldspecial/29PRES.html |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:12906 Activity:nil |
3/29 What kind of database does http://csua.org use? \_ I think mysql, but you'd have to ask dbushong to be sure. --scotsman |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Health/Men] UID:12907 Activity:moderate |
3/29 I usually have to shave once a week, but lately I've noticed that
I have to shave at least once every other day (that, and other
symptoms like needing more deodorant and an urge to look at porns
more often). Anyways it's getting really annoying & I'm thinking
about switching to a good electric shaver that is small and
reliable. What do you guys use? -asian man
\_ puberty finally kicking in?
\_ I've used an electric shaver for several years now and have gotten
to the point of needing to shave everyday, even though I am
nowhere near being a hairy guy - annoyed asian guy
\_ A 3-circle rotating Norelco. It's pretty old. I'm not too happy
with it, but I do like that it doesn't use batteries.
\_ Skip the electric. Use a blade. You'll get a much closer shave.
\_ not needed if he's asian. i use a blade. -hairy man
\_ I'm asian, and I'm hairy. -hairy asian man.
\_ are Indians allowed to call themselves Asian?
\_ Sorry. It's against the law.
\_ I use a shaving blade. I shave everyday, but I don't use
deorderant even though I smell like a barbarian. |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:12908 Activity:nil |
3/29 Socialists take over France too. |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Computer/Theory] UID:12909 Activity:kinda low 60%like:29886 |
3/29 What's the typical way to represent a DFA (or any other FSM) in text?
\_ +-------+ +-----+
| start |---------0------> | end |
+-------+ +-----+
\_ state transition table... |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12910 Activity:kinda low |
3/29 What does Condi have to hide?
\_ yea, she's Black, she must be hiding something..
\_ What do YOU have to hide? Why do we have that pesky 4th amendment?
\_ What did Clarke have to hide?
http://www.drudgereport.com/rc1.htm
possible news program talking about the same topic.
\_ I think the distinction here is that Clarke wasn't going on every
possible news program talking about the same topic. This is a
drudgereport flurry over absolutely nothing. Nobody is contesting
the claiming of separation of powers concerns. They haven't
subpoenaed her or any others. But members of the commission from
both sides of the aisle are urging her to come forward. The
distinction is not small. Now, if Clarke had criticized her and
the administration for doing this, that could be a legitimate
flash-in-the-pan topic, but this more of the same drudge drivel.
--scotsman
\_ She has offered to come forward in closed session. Only
grandstanding politicians are insisting on public testimony.
Specifically, Lee Hamilton said:
"But there's another whole dimension here, and that dimension is
the public dimension -- and I think the American public would
benefit from hearing Condi Rice testify under oath."
Isn't the panel trying to find out what happened? Why does
Hamilton think it needs to happen in public? Answer:
grandstanding politician.
\_ Except he is no longer a member of congress.
\_ she is National Security Advisor, i wouldn't want
her to divulge anything that might help the terrorist
alter their plans.
\_ but if it helps get Kerry elected..let the terrorist win
\_ I agree with you, but I don't see how this precludes her
testifying publicly. She's free to say, "I'm sorry, that
would violate National Security" if it comes up.
\_ no, that's exactly why it's a priviledge for NSAs
to not testify publically. |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:12911 Activity:kinda low |
3/28 Let's take some prespective on Dick Clark. He was the host of
American Bandstand through 7 presidents. His emcee style, whatever
it may be, obviously wasn't unpopular enough for his show to
get on the air under Eisenhower and remain under Reagan. So he's
really old. Big fucking deal. He played the music of the bands that
were popular. This somehow makes him a sellout? Does it not disturb
you that his show is no longer on the air? Because he hosts the
New Years celebration, his experience is negated? mumble mumble player
mumble mumble haters... |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:12912 Activity:nil |
3/29 Dude, James, those were still active threads. |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:12913 Activity:kinda low |
3/29 Kerry self-imploding. Haha. 'faith but no deeds' about Bush
then gets kicked out of Catholic church by Bishop because
Kerry has no deeds that are Catholic.
\_ he should quote scripture "remove log from own eye before
removing spinter from GWBs"
\_ I'm just waiting for Kerry to say he's a metrosexual
\_ Who says it's about Bush? It was a scripture quote within a church
where no funds were collected. The Bush-Cheney campaign is way too
paranoid. And you obviously have no idea of what the RCC considers
good deeds. Sigh, Christians. So ignorant of what they stand for,
so misguided. No wonder your God has spurned you.
\_ so "current administration" != Bush? during an election?
yeah right moron. also, I guess the Bishop has no clue
either, since he's the one that said Kerry can't take
Communion in the Bishop's entire state.
\_ he said ""our present national leadership.", that sure
isn't Bush..
\_ Kerry's pro-choice stance has been known for years. The RCC's
position on abortion has been known for years. The RCC is trying
to have an influence on American politics; a Catholic Senator stood
up against this, and now you're calling this a self-implosion?
This is a fine show of his moral character, and it stands in sharp
contrast to Bush's lip-service to the Religious Right. Faith but
no works, indeed.
\_ wow. never believed how blind people are. america is going
into the dumper soon
\_ soon?
\_ Yes, it's amazing that conservative Christians can be duped
into thinking Bush is with them when he has as much chance
of getting an anti-gay marriage amendment passed as they do
of being taken seriously. The piper leading the blind....
\_ I am not an expert on theology, but can you be a pro-choice
catholic? -- ilyas
\_ http://suewidemark.com/prochoice-catholic.htm
\_ Most Catholics are pro-life but most Catholics I know are
pro-choice. You can disagree with Vatican dogma and not be
any less Catholic. I don't know if the same is true of, say,
being Seven Day Adventist or Mormon though. -- ulysses
\_ But see, I don't understand. The Pope, according to
Catholics, is the divine representative here on this Earth.
Questioning his dictates is questioning God. Wouldn't that
make you ... a bad, sinful Catholic? -- ilyas
\_ Perhaps, but you'd still be Catholic. You're only not
a Catholic (of your own free will) if the Pope
excommunicates you.
\_ there are liberal and conservative catholics.
Liberal catholics are those who don't really practice
Catholicism and are just borrowing the name, like Kerry.
\_ So the only true Catholics are the ones who follow
Mel Gibson's brand of pre-Vatican II Catholicism?
\_ there are a lot of Orthodox Catholics out there.
\_ http://godhatesshrimp.com
\_ irrelevant
\_ do you have the URL?
\_ Do you really think that The Bible belongs to the GOP?
\_ no, but GWB didn't use scripture to tear down opponent
like Kerry does, is Kerry above us all? He's perfect in
his religion. *cough*
\_ all in all, Kerry said he has freedom of choice, and his
answere is "f$ck you pope, I can do whatever i want"
\_ i dunno, he went skiing on Sunday instead of going to mass.
\_ One thing about Catholics is that they represent a broad spectrum
of voters. You have gay Catholics, conservative Catholics, etc.
\_ aka Priests
\_ isn't that the Epsicopalian bishop? |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:12914 Activity:kinda low |
3/29 So I just got back from Taiwan. You know nearly all TV news stations
are controlled by the opposition party (the same coverage being beamed
into the Bay Area)? It's no wonder you have all these people
frothing at the mouth. I'm ashamed to think that most Taiwanese
people are stupid enough to believe the faked assassination theory.
They just can't believe that their party lost, and they're annoyed
at their stock holdings taking hits during Chen's presidency. Lien
beat his wife in grad school, his wife lies about it on TV, the
opposition party has suggested that Chen's wife's accident in 1985
was staged as well, and the opposition party is synonymous with
corruption, vote buying, and organized crime.
\_ huh? Lien is bad so Chen must be good? What is your superior
source of information? I'm an American, trying to follow this
in the English-speaking international press and I'm curious why
you're so sure that the conspiracy theories about Chen are
false, even if Lien is totally evil.
\_ Dude, where do I say "Lien is bad so Chen must be good"?
Re the assassination attempt, obGoogle for details, and think
about how it could have been staged, and everything necessary
for that. Anyway, obGoogle for these keywords in various
combinations: KMT controlled television stations vote-buying
organized crime 2/28. You will find links to books too.
Also, if you go to http://news.yahoo.com and search for
Taiwan, you will see a story on a U.S. investigation into the
shooting and the preliminary opinion.
\_ So I just got back from America. You know nearly all TV news
stations are controlled by the Democratic Party? It's no wonder
you have all these people frothing at the mouth. I'm ashamed to
think that most American people are stupid enough to believe the
Florida vote fixing theory. They just can't believe that their
party lost, and they're annoyed at their stock holdings taking
hits during the Dot Boom.
\_ People love a conspiracy. The most ridiculous the better and
more frothy the better.
\_ The KMT has controlled Taiwan ever since it was transferred
from Japanese control in 1945, until in 2000 when Chen won.
The KMT has > 50% ownership in the three major TV news stations.
As for Florida vote-fixing, it was decided by the Supreme Court,
which was a first for a Presidential election.
\_ I'm sure there'd be just as much outrage if the "opposition" party
(isn't that a nice name) won, given the number of pro-independent
Taiwan people around. People just hate any sense of impropriety
in important things like presidential elections
\_ If the KMT had won, the DPP would be complaining about KMT vote-
buying, which would be a respectable position. Now that the
DPP has won, the pro-KMT are complaining about a faked
assassination, which is pretty damned dumb position to take.
Like I said, it's the effect of KMT control of TV news, and
people being upset about their stock holdings and their candidate
suddenly losing when they thought they would win.
\_ it's not *only* the faked assassination, from what I've been
reading. I could care less about that part.
\_ So what do you care about?
\_ The KMT is now (inexplicably) for reunification with the PRC.
How is this strange reversal in their position being viewed,
and are they getting any help/support from the PRC?
\_ The KMT has *not* been for reunification with the PRC
as of the 2004 election year. This equals political
suicide.
\_ Okay, so the KMT has just been Independence-neutral?
Is that why the PRC has been favoring them?
\_ The KMT is for direct trade links / better business
with China, and has indicated more flexibility
on the independence issue than the DPP.
\_ Taiwan President Chen is like Chavez of Venezuela. He is a
demagogue. Very dangerous person. He likes to play divisive
politics pitching taiwanese against people who came from mainland
China in 1949 with the KMT. - tainan taiwanese
\_ The KMT is just plain bad. Refresh your memory on the 2/28
incident, and more recent stuff on vote-buying and organized
crime links. You may be watching too much KMT-controlled TV.
As for China, China is bad too, in case you need reminding.
\_ If Lien can't even out smart and out maneuver Chen in this election,
how can the public trust him in representing taiwan in negotiations
with PRC? Lien is responsible for the downfall of KMT.
A bian, A bian, Go Go Go. |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:12915 Activity:low 71%like:29884 |
3/2 9 In mysql, I'm getting huge files like the ibdata1, logfile,
bin files, etc. How do I compact them? Thanks.
\_ philcompress |
| 2004/3/29 [Uncategorized] UID:12916 Activity:nil |
3/29 BOOM.
\_ Pika! |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:12917 Activity:very high |
3/29 Isn't the PRC fascist? Why do people still refer to it as communist?
It fits perfectly with fascism but is not communist at all. Right?
\_ american is fascist too.
\_ Cool! ChiCom troll is back! I was afraid he'd been
sent to re-education, or promoted to peoples' regional
secretary for truth or something! Hi, ChiCom Troll! -John
\_ this is your problem. Saying PRC is a fascist is not
considered as troll, but saying American is fascist
is.
\_ Was I commenting on your content? Your reading
comprehension is as poor as your grammar. Doesn't
speak highly for ChiCom peoples' education. Welcome
back, ChiCom troll! -John
\_ You're being silly. He is not the real chicom
troll. Just arrived at work, eh?
\_ ChiCom troll is not person, it attitude.
Back to highschool, stupid american. -John
\_ nah, he's the best friend you day dream
about everyday at work.
\_ Yermom's not a day dream, and she's not
my best friend, she's on my lap.
\_ masterbating at work again, eh?
\_ nah, he's your imaginary best friend
you day dream about at work.
\_ Along with Republicanism...
\_ no.
\_ Communism is just one insidious type of fascism.
\_ Not really. It's just that people choose to keep calling
something communism that isn't communism.
\- helo it is an interesting question whether communism and
fascism, call them totalitarian ideologies, are essentially
identical due to structural factors or the "substance
of the ideology" rather than the structure [say class vs
nation/ethnic focus] plays the dominant role in defining
its character. you may wish to read "Revolutionary Change"
written by Chamlers Johnson before he went insane or this
book by R. Paxton: http://csua.org/u/6nx ok tnx. --psb
\_ Communism is not a totalitarian ideology per se, it is
an economic system which can only be achieved by
compulsion. (One wonders sometimes if this is true, to
some extent, of any civilized economic system which
relies on abstractions such as property). Fascism is a
more complicated concept, but I don't believe it needs to
be necessarily totalitarian either. Most people who
accuse people or states of fascism these days (e.g. "Bush
is fascist!") have no idea what the word means. I don't
believe fascism and communism have anything in common,
aside from the fact that they lend 'color' or 'charge',
if you like, to government. Twentieth century made a
convincing case that governments should remain as
colorless as possible. -- ilyas
\- per se, communism isnt communism per se. --psb
\_ That's nice, Partha. -- ilyas
\- not as good as: "The women at fandom cons are
bi and large, by and large." --psb
\_ What does it mean? that's my real question. I did do
some reading on it now and I see why the PRC doesn't
really fit that term. But, I can also see how aspects
associated with fascism can be used by both PRC
and USA (appeals to nationalism, fearmongering,
scapegoating, militarism/patriotism, propaganda).
But I think authoritarianism is intrinsic to fascism.
The only communism we've seen is the Stalinist brand
of totalitarianism. Modern China with its economic
ventures seems to have abandoned communism.
\_ yes, China have abandoned communism since 1985,
*YEARS* before Berlin Wall came down.
\_ nonsense. the government still controls the
entire economy. just because you're now allowed
to own an apple cart or a small factory that
makes a few widgets doesn't mean they've
\_ ussr? ussr is no more. otoh, russia under
putin has wisely decided to follow in
china's path of capitalism under strong
authoritarian rule, reversing russia's failed
experiment with democracy. this was also
the proven path followed by many US allies
such as japan, s.korea, taiwan, singapore.
and the world is voting with their hard
earned money pouring them into russia and
china. check out stock symbol mbt or vip,
i am buying a beemer using earnings from
those stocks. the only people who can
attain democracy and capitalism in the
reverse order are the indians, and even
then, it's under strong nationalistic
leadership of the BJP party.
*YEARS* before Berlin Wall came down.
suddenly turned into a capitalist society. they
have only just caught up to where stalin's
ussr was more than 50 years ago.
\_ Actually I take it back. Classic, Mussolini-style
fascism cannot help but be totalitarian in human
societies. -- ilyas
\-YMWTGF(ant, spider, bee, bacon) --psb
\_ human societies?
\_ The Bugs are facist by nature.
\-YMWTGF(ant, spider, bee, bacon) --psb
\_ bugs aren't totalitarian.
\_ Not necessarily bugs. Humans are just not
collectivist enough, they like small packs.
An interesting take on how a collectivist
human society would come about, see
book by R. Paxton: http://csua.org/u/6nx ok tnx. --psb
collectivist enough, they like small packs.
-- ilyas
Herbert's "Hellstrom's Hive" (yes, same
Herbert). -- ilyas
\_ if humans were collectivist like bugs
we'd be doing about as well which is
to say not very well at all overall.
\- sort of like france :-) --psb
\_ Why nobody ever complains that psb write incoherent
English sentences?
\_ because we know he could form coherent sentences
if he wanted to. otoh, we can and do complain that
he's a lazy bastard.
\_ nah, it's better described as authoritarian planned-economy
\- sort of like france :-) --psb
\_ "A specter is haunting Europe..." -- ilyas |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Consumer/CellPhone] UID:12918 Activity:nil |
3/29 Is it typical for cellular providers to offer a waiver of activation
fees? Do you have to go to a local dealer to get a deal like that,
or what? Thanks.
\_ tmobile doesn't, but instead you can get huge rebates that cover
it and more instead. Search for tmobile on http://amazon.com.
\_ i've bought cell phones for friends and family from http://amazon.com
and http://letstalk.com. both offer great prices, but letstalk lets
you talk to a person. this is helpful if you want to do family
plans where you are transferring 2 numbers or other non-
standard business. they go back and forth on who offers better
deals.
\_ so in general, do you guys prefer getting service from local
dealers or online places, and why?
\_ Ob-I prefer getting service from yermom.
\_ http://attws.com Order online for waived activation fees
\_ one year or two year commitment? |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:12919 Activity:nil |
3/29 Didn't one of the internet map engine thingies used to include
overhead maps from satellites or something? Where'd it go?
\_ i think microsoft had something called terraserver.
\_ this is the best: http://www.acme.com/mapper |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:12920 Activity:high |
3/29 I'm installing binaries for both OsX and Linux and I'd like all the
users to have /usr/bin/<files> to be accessible. I thought about
/usr/bin/<files> for generic stuff (like scripts) and
/usr/bin/<platform>/<files> for platform specific things.
What is the correct approach to this?
\_ there are obviously several ways to do this, and "correct" is mostly
relative. what you describe is probably the most typical way to
do it though.
\_ FreeBSD way: put all the base stuff in /usr/bin. Platform supported
stuff goes in /usr/local/bin (eg, ports and pkgs). If you're not
using the provided pkg management stuff, put it in /opt.
\_ multiplatform support is a sysadm nightmare. Enjoy patching?
Upgrading Perl/CPAN/emacs and all that crap? Now you've got
2X the problem. There is only one correct way to deal with this.
One OS, nothing else. The correct OS to use is FreeBSD.
\- while the above post begs the question, i think there is
a lot to be said for not worrying about having a shared
dir for "sharable" codes. disk is cheap so i'd just ask to
a lot of be said for not worrying about having a shared
dir for "sharable" codes. disk is cheep so i'd just ask soon
have disjoint os specific trees and not worry about duplication
or keeping them in sync. --psb
\_ Why would you want to do that? Darwin and Linux do not have RW
compatible drivers except for old fashioned HFS (no +). |
| 2004/3/29 [Uncategorized] UID:29883 Activity:nil 50%like:12894 |
10-10 plan with no monthly charge/minimum?
\_ http://www.vonage.com
This stuff's pretty cool. You need a decent broadband connection
but you can say goodbye to SBC for almost everything (you still
need them for DSL). I used my friend's box to call Germany and
it worked like a charm. The line quality was crystal clear and
it worked transparently. There's a $15 monthly charge. I think
Circuit City has a promotion. |
| 2004/3/29-30 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:29884 Activity:low 71%like:12915 |
3/29 In mysql, I'm getting huge files like the ibdata1, logfile,
bin files, etc. How do I compact them? Thanks.
\_ philcompress |
| 2004/3/29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:29885 Activity:nil |
3/29 motd has been kind of dead lately. What's going on?
\_ New Fry's opened at Concord. Anime porn half off.
\_ Who cares about anime porn. How about those booth babes.
\_ mmm... tentacles...
\_ Eww!
\_ are anime and manga the same thing? or does manga only refer
to comic books? and hentai is japanamation porn?
No definitions found for "bukkake"
\_ 'Hentai' means 'perv' and refers to sexually-explicit comics
'Manga' is comics
'bukkake' ... google it (NSFW)
\_ what is nsfw? not safe for work?
\_ yes
\_ anime is video; manga is comics. As for definitions:
http://www.harmful.org/homedespot/Adictionary.html |
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