| WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ | |
 http://csua.com/feed/ | |
| ||||||
| 2004/3/20 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12772 Activity:nil |
3/19 Hahahahaha! Look at your stupid conservative guy trying to reply!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/bob/04/97.html Hahahaha!
Bush is doomed!
\_ Yeah, it's just as great "It's none of your business!" or
"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it"
\_ I want links for these quotes..._
\_ 1) google. 2) read a newspaper, they were in several. 3) if
he didn't make them you'd see it *everywhere* that the evil
BushCo had fabricated quotes. Don't be silly, they were made
in public in front of a zillion people.
\_ Do liberals actually think this is what conservatives are like? It
would be far more interesting if you could get a real conservative
to write a counter point instead of just smearing them with froth
and bile. |
| 2004/3/20-21 [Reference/Religion] UID:12773 Activity:moderate |
3/19 so it's okay for "ethnic albanians" to ethnically cleanse
kosovo and burn all the churches there.
\_ Yes. The Albanians aren't Israeli and their victims aren't a
harmless, defenseless people like the Palestinians. The Albanians
are a peace loving people who are merely setting right historical
injustices done upon them by Evil Christans(c). It's a form of
international level affirmative action.
\_ You really have a one track mind, don't you?
\_ Not at all. (say something stupid get a stupid reply)
\_ What ever gave you that idea? NATO is calling for more troops and
informing the populace that this must end, now.
\_ "or else!" what good does that do for the ones already
butchered? not a god damned thing, that's what. but they're
only dirt eating eastern european christians so who cares?
\_ I appreciate your frustration, but the point is that NATO
is trying to do something. If you have concrete suggestions
on what they can do, post them.
\_ Ok, so where are the troops? No, they're only talking
about sending troops whenever the hell they get around to
it. There have been troops in the region since Clinton
put them there half a decade ago. Why aren't they doing
something?
\_ I bet you were one of those guys who said Clinton was just
trying to wag the dog when he sent troops to Kosovo, aren't you?
\_ Except we were supporting the wrong side. We should
be supporting the Christian Serbs.
\_ as a christian I disagree with your stoopid
viewpoint.
\_ as a christian on the motd your opinion has no
value. you are automatically scum of the earth and
full of hate and a redneck.
\_ I'm still waiting to read a single post by
a motd christian that uses their religion to
argue anything but hatred of homosexuals, jews,
muslims or the word "fuck." Do you want to be
the first?
\_ I'm not a christian and I agree with him, but not
because "they're christian". why should we help
separatist albanians in a historically serbian area?
\_ That's fine with me. I just don't like people
giving Christians a bad name. I am against
mass murders.
giving Christians a bad name.
\_ No one ever said that. He was wagging the dog when he
blew up an aspirin factory in the Sudan and a few empty
tents in Afghanistan. |
| 2004/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12774 Activity:very high |
3/19 Apparently the Taiwanese have hired Jeb Bush to run their election.
\_ Huh?
\_ I don't know about that comparison. If, however, the President
of the United States use his presidential powers to stage an
assassination attempt by Al Queda in a last minute bid to
win the election, that would be comparable to what happened in
Taiwan.
\_ No matter how many times you repeat this, it is still
not true.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/US_election_race/Story/0,2763,430306,00.html
\_ What's not true? "It"? "It" is true. Join us in the
year 2004. The weather is great up here!
\_ I was referring to the ballot shennanigans, not the assasination.
\_ Oh my God, can't you just let it go and moveon? The whole
country has been over this a million times. The press did
their own recount of everything, Gore lost, join us up here
in the now and the future.
\_ No matter how many times you repeat this, it is still
not true.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/US_election_race/Story/0,2763,430306,00.html
\_ What's not true? "It"? "It" is true. Join us in the
year 2004. The weather is great up here!
\_ Will you please open your eyes? The recount itself is
meaningless. The only way that election would have
been valid is if they'd had a runoff. The difference
in ballots was squarely within the margin of error!
Take Stats and you'll know that you can draw no solid
conclusions in a contest like that.
\_ We don't do "runoffs" nith si country. Were *you*
calling for a run off in 92 when Perot took 19%? The
election was valid. It followed the laws and it's
unfortunate but there is no procedure for statistical
margin of error problems. Winner takes all and that's
that. I've had "stats", thanks. Have you had civics?
It's over, move on. Frothing won't bring more people
\_ Oh, he became president through a _legit_ process.
(You could make the argument that the process
needs fixing, but so far, it's legit by
definition).
to your party for 2004.
\_ There are so many red herrings here, I think you
must be a fishmonger. I know we don't have run-
offs; I'm saying that not having runoffs is
assinine. I'm calling for a runoff because the
difference in votes fell within the margin of
error; in 92, this was not the case in any state.
\_ It wasn't worth saying anything more to such crap. If
you had posted something worth responding to, you would
have had a real response. As I said when I responded.
There's no reason to provide a real response to a frothing
troll who has added nothing to the thread. You might as
well just say, "Yes, it is!" so I can say, "No, it isn't!"
and we can cut'n'paste back n forth for a while. Add value
and you'll get a real reply. Do you really honestly
believe you said something worth responding to?
\_ I don't know about that comparison. If, however, the President
of the United States use his presidential powers to stage an
assassination attempt by Al Queda in a last minute bid to
win an election, that would be comparable to what happened in
Taiwan.
meaningless. The only way that election would have
been valid is if they'd had a runoff. The difference
in ballots was squarely within the margin of error!
Take Stats and you'll know that you can draw no solid
conclusions in a contest like that.
\_ This has got to be tearing Taiwan apart right now. Anyone with
relatives/friends/actual presence there like to comment?
I'm done frothing; I'm trying to get reforms.
Bush is president now, so be it; but don't pretend
he's president through a legit process.
\_ Oh, he became president through a _legit_ process.
(You could make the argument that the process
needs fixing, but so far, it's legit by
definition).
\_ Rule #1) Have family in high places. Rule #2) Have the supreme
court in your back pocket - maybe go duck hunting together. It
worked for us!
\_ Rule #3) wear tinfoil hat. If you had a higher quality post
you'd get a higher quality response, frother.
\_ Uh huh. Your only response is to continue to claim,
against all evidence, things that are not true.
\_ It wasn't worth saying anything more to such crap. If
you had posted something worth responding to, you would
have had a real response. As I said when I responded.
There's no reason to provide a real response to a frothing
troll who has added nothing to the thread. You might as
well just say, "Yes, it is!" so I can say, "No, it isn't!"
and we can cut'n'paste back n forth for a while. Add value
and you'll get a real reply. Do you really honestly
believe you said something worth responding to? |
| 2004/3/20-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:12775 Activity:nil |
3/19 Why do you guys insist on putting stuff in /csua/pub/jobs/* ?
You're posting on motd, so obviously you want many people to look
at the job and to apply. Why not put it in places like
http://csua.berkeley.edu/pub/jobs/* where your listing will
get even more exposure?
\_ Because that's where they've always been put. Because these are
job postings to fellow members. Because the CSUA is a social
(read networking) organization.
\_ Because 1) we didn't know it was there and 2) don't know how to
put files there. What's the file system path?
\_ 1) that gives me a 404, how about you? 2) motd isn't global -- so
these postings are for the benefit of members
\_ DEAR POLITBURO, as a recruiter I'd like to put stuff
on <DEAD>csua/pub/job/*<DEAD> so that more ppl can access
it. How do I do that? Thanks.
\_ boy man mail
[Restored. If you keep censoring it, I will keep restoring it.] |
| 2004/3/20-21 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:12776 Activity:nil |
3/20 (ssssshhhh!) Restored: White's only scholarship. Hurry, apply now!
http://tinyurl.com/222cs
\_ http://www.rwu.edu/about+rwu/fast+facts
hmmm.... 20,000 dollars tuition for some shitty noname east
coast school. I'd say I got the equivalent of a 40,000 dollar
scholarship from those people just for going to a public school.
[Restored. If you keep censoring it, I will keep restoring it.] |
| 2004/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:12777 Activity:high |
3/19 This has got to be tearing Taiwan apart right now. Anyone with
relatives/friends/actual presence there like to comment?
\_ I am in TW right now. Really think DPP rigged the election.
Numerous of things, such as disallowing police and military
to vote really made a difference this time. DPP fully aware
that police / military tend to be pro KMT, and using assassination
as an excuse to put them in high alert is a relatively reasonable
as an excuse to put them in high alert. It's a relatively reasonable
reason to disallowing them to vote. The assassination attempt,
which many believed is being staged by DPP, really helped in
galvanizing the swing voters to vote DPP at last minute.
Having said that, I don't think pan-KMT fraction can do anything
about this. I, for one, now leaning toward CCP instead.
\_ Many people believe that Bush paid the Israeli secret service
to blow up the towers in NY, too. Just because many people are
stupid doesn't mean they're right.
\_ My dad said Chen placed 300000 army and police on high alert after
the "assassination" attempt on him, so these 300000 people
couldn't vote. DPP "won" by 30000, one tenth of 300000.
\_ just in case someone wonders, the above numbers were not typos.
The army and police who were supposed to vote in special voting
places but were mobilized just on the election day and didn't
get any chance to vote numbered at least ten times the margin of
of "victory" claimed to be won by Chen. There are numerous irreg
in the vote counting process, including massive selective
\_ The assassination stunt Chen pulled is kind of like the President
of the United States using his presidential powers to stage an
assassination attempt by Al Queda in a last minute bid to
win the election.
\_ Look, I'm not disputing whether the assassination attempt was
staged or not. I'm looking for insight from people who are
there. Do you know anyone who's there right now? Then ask
them what they think is going on and post it.
labelling of votes against Chen as beling invalid. Frankly, I
don't like Lien, because he seems like a indifferent wimp. What
worries me is having someone who is capable of a treachery of
this magnitude as the leader of a still young democracy.
\_ Too true, once we kill off the splittists, the motherland will
be reunited and we can execute or put in mental hospitals the
splittists who remain.
\_ well, even CCP have not been saying things like that, for
many year. Almost no people on taiwan want immediate
reunification, including those against Chen and DPP. Even
many people on the mainland does not think unification is
a viable idea now, including all of the leadership, not the
least because of the divergent political system. They
just want to maintain the status quo, perhaps indefinitely.
The DPP and Chen, however, want to severe any hope and good
will between Taiwan and the mainland. They want to write
textbooks that claim "Taiwanese" (Chinese immigrated there
two centuries earlier, not the minoriity aborigines) as
a different and superior race and glorify Japanese's role
in WWII. To achieve the former, they used all the media
they control to forment hatred against and demonize all
people on the mainland as well as Taiwanese who disagree
with their agenda. When the last time there was a solar
storm disrupting satelite communication, they put out
"news" that claim Beijing is send death ray against their
with their agenda. Example: I remember when there was a
solar storm disrupting satelite communication, they put out
"news" that claim Beijing sent death ray against
Beijing.
satelite. During SARS, they first claimed Taiwanese are
immune from it during to their superiority. When it broke
out there too, they claim it was a biological attack from
Beijing. You don't hear this on the western media because
they are clever enough to realize it is not PC so they
do not release it in English, and (at least the american)
media never picks it up, intentionally or not.
\_ The mainland leadership doesn't want reunification?
Excuse me, but that's complete bullshit. I won't
actually call you a liar. They've been putting out
pro-unification noise since day one. They're building
up military force on the mainland side of the water for
years and continue to do so. They have stated outright
that if they don't reunify at some unspecified but
near-future date that the mainland *will invade* to
make it happen. I don't know about the propaganda
coming out of Taiwan but the mainland makes their own
positions very public and very clear.
\_ summary:
The margin which DPP won by: < 30k (or 0.23%)
The number of military/police personel which are not given
the chance to vote: 300k
The number of votes which counted as "invalid" due to
"more stringent validation process:" 330k
The number of ballots casted: 13 million
\_ "We didn't like the results so let's have a do-over!" |
| 2004/3/20-22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:12778 Activity:nil |
3/19 In Perl, how do I do file descriptor jumps. I'm asking because I
want to implement my own "tail -f" or "tail -100" where I can just
find out the size of the file, then jump towards the end, and
move around the files. THanks.
\_ jumps? you mean seek() and/or fseek()?
\_ tell me why would the UN want to give up its exploitation of
making millions off Saddam and the Oil for Food program?
what incentive for the UN to get rid of IRAQ's saddam when they
are making millions. You want nothing more than to put the
Iraqi people back under oppression so that the UN can make millions
more off the poor Iraqi people exploiting the Oil for Food program. |
| 2004/3/20-21 [Reference/Military, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12779 Activity:nil |
3/19 Echoes of the Wild West in one man's border war
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1102005/posts |
| 2004/3/20-21 [Uncategorized] UID:12780 Activity:nil |
3/19 Al Qaeda aims at US target because it disagrees with the US Policy.
What is wrong with the US Policy again?
\_ Is this a troll?
\_ No, they kill non-Muslims of all types because they're non-Muslims.
Convert or die. The 'problem' with US policy is the US isn't an
Islamic state run by some Ayatollah.
\_ wow, how clever. looks like one troller responds to
another troller. |
| 2004/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:12781 Activity:nil |
3/19 The assassination stunt Taiwan's president Chen pulled is kind
of like the President of the United States using his presidential
powers to stage an assassination attempt by Al Queda in a last
minute bid to win the election.
\_ Tinfoil hat time. What evidence is there that he had himself and
his VP shot? It's ridiculous.
\_ what about this claim that years ago he falseley accused
political rivals of poisoning him on TV right before another
election? Is there any basis in fact there? I'm not trying to
troll here, I'm just new to following Taiwan politics.
\_ it's totally like something he would do. he does anything
and everything to win elections. |