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| 2004/3/16 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:12694 Activity:high |
3/16 If you knew someone was a spammer (a stranger), would you
want to beat the person up?
\_ was it good spam or bad spam?
\_ can any spam be good?
\_ spam & eggs. yum.
\_ I'd throw a can of SPAM through their window.
\_ And waste a perfectly good can of spam?
\_ there's an infinite supply. no worries.
\_ Here is an interesting question to full time spammers (people who
get paid writing and sending spam). WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING
KNOWING THAT YOU'VE ANNOYED 99% OF THE PEOPLE?
\_ I'm laughing on my way to the bank with the fortune I made from
the other 1%.
\_ I believe if just 1 in 100,000 respond, they profit. And there
is no shortage of people who will do anything for a bigger
penis.
\_ Are you on the ROKSO list of known spammers?
\_ Are there full time spammer on csua? I remember at least one
member had a list of all soda email addresses on his web page.
\ REALLY? I hope he was squished, right?
\_ I would want to kill them. I believe in vigilante action against
spammers. |
| 2004/3/16 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:12695 Activity:high |
3/16 I posted this last week, but it received no serious responses.
Does anyone have any experience/advice with using air couriers
for international travel? Is it a reliable thing to use? Thanks.
\_ what do you mean by using "air couriers"? back when I was
at cal, several of my friends travel "courier" which means
that they can't bring any check-in lugguage. the space
was sold to a courier service instead. I believe my friends
don't need to touch whatever luggage that is being
couriered at all and are not responsible for what is being
couriered. The courier company already arranged things
with the airline directly. It was many years before 911,
even though I don't see why 911 must impact this.
\_ Yes, this is the service I was talking about. Did
they share any advice/thoughts on travelling like
that? -op
\_ they seem pretty satisfied, mainly with the
price. Instead of around $900, they paid
like $500.
\_ Here are your eyes. |
| 2004/3/16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:12696 Activity:nil |
3/16 In perl how do I make it so that it checks for variable undeclared
because it's really annoy how it ignores errors like that. ok thx
\_ #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
use strict;
\_ I prefer #!/usr/bin/env perl and $^W=1; (or $WARNING is clearer) |
| 2004/3/16 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:12697 Activity:nil |
3/16 How do I tell spamassassin that if it sees certain subject, To:
field, or whatever, to increase the number of spam points?
\_ Put it in your user_prefs. RTFM. |
| 2004/3/16-17 [Consumer/Audio, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:12698 Activity:nil |
3/16 Any recommendations on stereo installation places?
I want to get a new stereo and a DVD player installed.
\_ For your car?
\_ for my asshole. -op |
| 2004/3/16 [Reference/Tax] UID:12699 Activity:high |
3/16 Bring back the car tax:
http://csua.org/u/6g5
\_ Great! Ride Bike! Use Linux!
\_ No no no! We must lower all taxes to 0% and only then will we be
able to spend infinite amounts of money on combatting terrorism!
\_ It's too bad that you're trying so hard to destroy what could
be a good discussion. The tax rates, what gets taxed, and how
the money is spent is a core issue that matters to everyone on
a daily basis and you're pissing all over it like a baby. Oh
well, this topic is dead. thanks.
\_ Have you ever seen a political debate on the motd that didn't
degenerate into garbage? I think he was just saving us all
some time.
\_ I have seen lots of good political debates on the motd.
Some of us are interested in that sort of thing, you know.
\_ Really? Are you reading a different motd than me?
There may have been one or two but 99% of them
quickly degenerate into (or even start with) name
calling.
\_ Why is this an issue? The car tax was like that for most of the
time. |
| 2004/3/16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:12700 Activity:nil |
3/16 Need a dos batch script to launch of a bunch of executables.
How do I tell the executables to run in the background?
\_ DOS doesn't support background processes.
Maybe the "start" command is sufficient for your needs, though.
\_ that's it exactly. thanks.
\_ You might want to see if "4dos" and "4cmd" still exist if you're
doing more than trivial 'batch programming'. |
| 2004/3/16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12701 Activity:high |
3/16 THE FRENCH WAR FOR OIL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098617/posts
\_ Yay, an op-ed from the NY Post! By the way, why does freep get
away with re-publishing thousands of articles on its own site?
Isn't that copyright violation?
\_ "Kenneth R. Timmerman is a senior writer for Insight magazine".
BTW, you wouldn't know this but more New Yorkers read the Post
than read the Times. That probably doesn't matter to you since
those are just the ugly masses of humanity.
\_ quantity equals quality now huh? I see a lot of people reading
the front pages of Nat'l Enquirer and People in supermarkets.
\_ Timmerman... That's a Jewish name, right?
\_ I can feel the hate oozing from my monitor. Do you attend
KKK rallies too? Beat up queers? Attack blacks?
\_ No, no... You've got it wrong. Anti-semitism is PC
these days.
\_ Oh, sorry, my error. I didn't realise it was "in" and
cool to hate Jews again. I thought we were done with
that in the 40s.
\_ It is not. The Isrealis are just trying to convince
you that disagreeing with Isreal makes one anti-Semitic.
\_ No, the motd is covered with anti-Semitic hateful
statements that have nothing to do with Israel. They
all come from people espousing leftist noise. That
leads me to believe that the left hates Jews.
\_ How do you know where they come from? Maybe
they come from Right Wing Nazis.
\_ Where are those WMD anyway? Could it be that both sides simply
were fighting for self-interest? How dare those Frogs try and
look out for themselves first! That is an American prerogative.
\_ Everyone fights for self interest. Why else fight? And what
is a 'prerogitate'?
\_ I corrected it, but you changed it back. Boy, aren't
you clever.
\_ Shrug, whatever. It was like that when I hit 'save'.
Use motdedit next time.
\_ I always use motdedit.
\_ racist! |
| 2004/3/16 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:12702 Activity:nil |
3/16 "It--my view of--of the situation was that he--he had--we--we believe,
the best intelligence that we had and other countries had and
that--that we believed and we still do not know--we will know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld 3/15/04
\_ I like poking him in the ribs and listening to him squeal. Hey
inflamed gallbaldder boy, squeal some more!! <poke> <poke>
\_ You realize that was ashcroft?
\_ there's that Princeton education talking...
\_ Then again Saddam's 20,000 strong nuclear weapons program
discovered after the first Gulf War was a big surprise to...
Let's hear what Kerry had to say from the Congressional Record:
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States
the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm
Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal
of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and
grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent
with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary
actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile
strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to
the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons
of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin,
Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998 |
| 2004/3/16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:12703 Activity:nil |
3/16 Is there a program that will take a hostname -- or better yet, a list
from stdin -- and return the ipaddress? I want to write a script
that will taken a human readable file using hostnames and generate
a config file for some software by substituting ipaddresses.
\_ tcsh% foreach i (`cat filename`)
host $i
end
You can pipe the output of host through grep/sed/cut/awk/whatever
--scotsman
\_ I was familiar with host, and thank you for the suggestions,
but as you see, host returns a bunch of other things too.
I have used host for this purpose but I was wondering if there
was a program that didnt have all the verbosity about MX info.
\_ You are a very lazy person.
\_ Beyond lazy. learn to use grep/awk/cut/splice, etc, and
you will be able to accomplish simple tasks like this
without bothering motd. --scotsman
\_ RTFM!
\- Helo, host is ok, but I'd be interested in the
opposite of this program:
-rwxr-xr-x psb Oct 8 1999 /csua/bin/ip2hostname (hf)
as well. a foreach loop in the shell is not a reasonable
way to process a 1000 of these ... and it would be nice
to have an inline filter like ip2hostname. Maybe I'll
write it "one of these days" but I am lazy too. It would
be great if there was something like this around. --psb
\- although since you cant quite neatly match hostnames,
the hostname2ip would be less powerful ... like only
match hosts at beg of line. maybe something can be
done with true FQDNs. --psb
\_ http://he.fi/slookup/README --scotsman
\_ a foreach loop in the shell is totally doable if you
know how to read in a line at a time from a file in a
shell. your problem isn't your ignorance, that can be
cured with effort. your problem is laziness. |
| 2004/3/16-17 [Reference/RealEstate, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:12704 Activity:kinda low |
3/16 Is anyone in the CSUA presently living in any of the North Side
coops on Ridge or across the street from Soda? If so, please email me.
I need a current coop member with clue as a point of contact to
facilitate bringing *massive* bandwidth to the coops. -dans
\_ Where were you 10 years ago when *I* needed you?
\_ Hobnobbing with the sexy technoelite.
\_ Pretty much, yes. That's why I'm in a position to do this
now. -dans
\_ You really want to do business with people who dont pay their bills?
\_ If it gets paid by the central office, there's no problem
\_ Yes it is a problem. Like I said, why do business with people
[Yes, yes, very clever of you to keep replacing neocons
with jews, very amusing, now fuck off.]
\_ this little side bit about jews & neocons is a motdedit
merge failure, right?
who don't pay their bills?
\_ CO pays the bills on time. Don't confuse the USCA (very
lucrative/well funded organization that provides housing
to students at a reasonable cost) with the actual people
living in the coops. You think the coops are really self
governed?
\_ I was there for several years, served on the board,
several committees, met with their lawyers, george
proper, and several other jack offs. I know exactly
how the coops are governed. Another concern is how
you'll bring wiring into the house without it being
stolen. My house bought *1* cable tv connection and
*everyone* had cable in their room. How do you think
that happened? And yes my house paid the *1* bill on
time every month without mommy's help in CO.
\_ I don't think you're suggesting people would steal
CAT-5. If you're suggesting co-opers would steal
\_ Then the co-ops can pay for every room. Like
90% of everyone would use it anyway.
living in the coops. You think the coops are really self
governed?
service, that seems pointless. The co-op could just
pay UCB for access for the whole building and then
everyone could use it.
\_ Nah, they'd charge per room like everything else.
\_ I was saying the CO pays their bills, but the individual
houses might be run by fuck-ups. So if the billing goes to
CO it will be paid on-time. Their main finance person is
Margie Greene <mgreene@usca.org> Talk to her and she'll
point you to other people who can make this happen. |
| 2004/3/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:12705 Activity:nil |
3/16 debian newbie question. so i compiled a new kernel (2.4.18,
2.4.19, 2.6.0) but when i boot with it, the modules no longer
work, if i link /lib/modules/.... to the correct kernel name,
it complains that the modules are not compiled for 2.4.18-bf2.
So what is the correct way to try a new kernel on linux for
debian? thx.
\_ In general, compiling source requires "make bzImage;make modules;
make modules_install;make bzlilo(or whatever you do to let your
boot loader load the kernel). make modules_install will install
the modules ot /lib/modules. The debian way is make_kpkg
kernel_images to create the deb package and install using dpkg.
\_ you mean make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg kernel_image;
cd ..; dpkg -i <kernel_package>
\_ exactly. which boot manager are you using?
\_ another newbie question, i ran make modules, all works. then
I ran make modules_install, I got
find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{} pcmcia
if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.19; fi
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/drivers/net/wan/wanpipe.o
depmod: register_wan_device_Rsmp_25269802
depmod: lock_adapter_irq_Rsmp_7e6ae263
depmod: wanrouter_encapsulate_Rsmp_a5336dd5
depmod: unlock_adapter_irq_Rsmp_1e7b9a43
depmod: unregister_wan_device_Rsmp_0ebe03d1
depmod: wanrouter_type_trans_Rsmp_5cb5fb99
make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
Is this something to be ignored or??
\_ btw, you may want to use some newer kernels that don't have the
variety of local exploits reported in recent weeks.
\_ such as? what version do you recommend?
\_ like, say, the latest? or at least get a version with the
backported patches.
\_ get the source for 2.4.25-1 if you want to use 2.4
\_ exchange known security holes for unknown bugs/holes.
\_ or exchange new unknown bugs/holes for old
unknown bugs/holes.
\_ use the 2.4.18-1-foo debian kernel. (where foo is your
processor) When linux kernel exploits are found, the debian
security team back-ports the patches and release an updated
2.4.18 kernel-image. This way you don't have to deal with any
of the hassles involved with compiling a kernel. nor do you
have to wait for testing/unstable to releases the next kernel
version. and by using the same kernel version, you're not
forced to upgrade libraries and api's required by the new
kernel.
\_ it's not really a big hassle, once you've learned how.
and debian's kernel is not going to be nearly as optimized
as one you build yourself. ergo, the whole point of wanting
to build your own kernel. |
| 2004/3/16-17 [Recreation/Shopping] UID:12706 Activity:nil |
3/16 what to do in Austin, Tx? going there in 2 weeks for a weekend.
\_ Downtown is awesome, you can spend all your nights up and down
Sixth Street where all the bars/night clubs are within walking
distance of each other. Pete's Dualing Piano Bar is my personal fav.
\_ yes, downtown is awsome...however if you want to see something
awsome you can't see anywhere else, go see the bats.
\_ I highly recommend the Hooters there.
\_ If you're a bargain hunter and feel like killing off one day on
shopping, consider going to San Marcos shopping center, right
outside of Austin (I think it's either exit 200 or 100, whichever is
closer to Austin on the road to San Antonio). Lots of factory outlet
stores are there. They sell mostly clothing but there are many other
types of goods available there too. Prices are low and the choice is
good. Most of them close at 6pm.
\_ My memory of this shopping center was that it was like every
other factory outlet mall, except near Austin. Was there
anything special you remember about it? |
| 2004/3/16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12707 Activity:nil |
3/16 It was all based on lies by a couple of people.
Just like I told you a year ago.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/8197462.htm
\_ There's a guy sighted in this articles who's name is
"Knight Ridder." Is that a joke or what?
\_ "Knight Ridder" is the company that owns a bunch of newspapers
in the bay area. They are refering to the new agency. You're
thinking of "Knight Rider"
\_ What the... this article claims "No Iraqi Scud Missles have
been found yet." Hoookaay.... |
| 2004/3/16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:12708 Activity:nil |
3/16 A tribute to Rachel Corrie. God bless her soul.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004796
And a big 'fuck you' to who ever has been erasing this. You hater!
\_ Pot. Kettle. Black.
\_ But the difference is, I'd take Jews over Palestinians any
day.
\_ I know you would because you are prejudiced SOB who
sees no value in Arab life. I would take a good person
of any religion or nationality. Too bad you are too
blinded by your hate to see that there is good and
bad on both sides.
\_ There is bad on both sides but I'd take a democracy that
provides full freedom to women over fascist dictatorship
that murders 'collaborators' on the stree in cold blood
with no trial and conducts mock elections when they bother
to pretend to have them, or sends their *children* out
on the street carrying *suicide bomb belts*! I'll respect
Arab life when they start to respect Arab life.
\_ It's not a Democracy when almost half of those under
its rule have no vote. The Isrealis have killed
more Palestinian civilians than visa versa. Your
worldview is seriously twisted by the lies you
have been fed.
\_ there are more dead palestinians that israelis. you
seriously believe every palestinian death was an
innocent civilian? no, the numbers all get lumped
into a "score board" with only 2 numbers. It's a
democracy and it's the only one in the entire
middle east. You have feelings for the palestinians?
Not even other Arabs give a shit about them. Get
real. They don't even care about their own children.
\_ There are at least four classes of citizen.
Only Jews have full rights:
http://csua.org/u/6gh
How do you call that a Democracy?
\_ Not so much. It's just the Jews have, and continue to
make, a large number of contributions to the world at
large. Not to meantion they haven't attempted large
scale genocide since about... oh... 5000BC.
\_ Your celebration of the death of a brave and
noble human being who selflessly tried to
save a few innocent's homes just shows how far
your hatred and depravity has lowered you to.
I honestly think you need psychological help.
\_ Did you even read the link? She was trying to save
'homes' that were being used to move weapons into
the Gaza strip so the Palestinians could make more
bombs belts to strap on 12 year olds. You honestly
need to learn to read before resorting to ad hominen.
\_ That is a lie. Your entire link is ad hominem.
She died trying to save the home of Dr. Samir
Nasrallah who has never been charged by the
IDF of any crime.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/09/ma_497_01.html
http://www.yesmagazine.org/26courage/halper.htm
\_ What's a lie? That 12 year olds are carrying bomb
belts? That weapons are flowing under tunnels from
the Sinai to Gaza? Give it up. I'm not even going
to waste the network bits to read the leftist trash
from links like mother jones. You might as well be
posting from the democraticunderground site.
\_ The claim that Rachel Corrie was protecting
a tunnel is a lie. And you are a lying and
twisted fuck who seriously needs help.
\_ Hmmm.. Maybe you're right. I was thinking that
supporting terrorists that kill civilians made
her enemy support personnel. Maybe all she
really deserves is a Darwin award.
\_ Because all Palestinians are terrorist scum and
must be cleansed, right?
\_ Ok, I admit it. There's wrong on both sides. But it's
going to continue until:
A) The Palestinians successfully kill all the Jews.
B) The Jews get tired of trying to put up with them and
finally kill all the Palestinians.
C) The Palestinians learn to police themselves and stop
encouraging their children to wear bomb belts.
THIS IS A WAR, and one side is totally fanatical about
killing the other, and will not settle for anything
less. Civilians die in wars too, it's a sad truth.
I'm sorry I'm the one who has to break it to you.
\_ The Israelis are willing to have peace. The other side
only wants pieces. Has the PLO taken that bit out of
their charter that says their goal is to eliminate
Israel and kill all the Jews?
\_ They removed the part that called for the
destruction of Isreal years ago. They never
called the death of all Jews. That is more
of your propaganda.
\_ It's not a war, it's an military occupation that has
lasted 40 years. Israel builds settlements and so forth
regardless of terrorist activity.
\_ Because IT IS WAR, in your words, it is okay to
celebrate the death of a non-violent innocent?
\_ Need I say, that this URL is pretty hateful? |
| 2004/3/16 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12709 Activity:nil |
3/16 "It--mah' view uh--uh de situashun wuz dat he--he had--we--we recon',
de best intelligence dat we had and oda' countries had and
dat--dat we recon'd and we still do not know--we gots'ta know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld 3/15/04
\_ I like poking him in the ribs and listening to him squeal. Hey
inflamed gallbaldder boy, squeal some more!! <poke> <poke>
\_ You realize that was ashcroft?
\_ No, he doesn't; he's an idiot.
\_ there's that Princeton education talking...
\_ Then again Saddam's 20,000 strong nuclear weapons program
discovered after the first Gulf War was a big surprise to...
Let's hear what Kerry had to say from the Congressional Record:
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States
the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm
Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal
of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and
grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
\_ Funny, Kerry seems to be the only one to believe that
there were WMDs. Even Bush said (usually), only that
they were being "assembled", not that they were
stockpiled.
\_ I don't really care what Kerry said. Maybe he's an idiot
and was duped. The point is that the intelligence data
did not match the adminstration's talk, and Rummy's
comical verbal dancing is the result. It is fact that
the administration suppressed contrary intelligence and
presented their agenda with certainty before the public,
and even invented ridiculous stuff like the niger thing.
\_ It is opinion that anything was suppressed.
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent
with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary
actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile
strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to
the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons
of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin,
Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
\_ Hahahah 1998. How many chemical weapons have a shelf
life of 5 years?
\_ All of them. Disprove it. And until we went there we had no
idea if *new* ones were being made or not. Scott Ritter said
the WMD programs were only 90-95% destroyed when they left in
1998. That means *not* 100% destroyed and thus still capable
of making WMD. Based on Scott Ritter's info alone we had
reason enough to go in.
\_ http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15854
Yawn. Another lie of yours exposed.
\_ alternet? oh please. I've seen Ritter say on live TV
before it was cool to say there was nothing there that
there was something there. That was before he took $300k
in Saddam's blood money, btw.
\_There's no need to attack the source, this is the
exactly the same type of idiocy that _Time_ or any
other "reputable" news magazine would regurgitate.
\_ And the DIA and CIA.
\_ So you admit that you lied when you said that
all chemical agents have a shelf life of 5 years?
http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/960705/73919_01.htm
\_ You understand that the "uhms" and "ahs" and other pauses and gaps
are normally cleaned up for *all* politicians and other government
figures. By putting them back in you're not making him look stupid
to educated people who actually understand how the media works. I'm
sure this impresses your ignorant friends, though. Watch CSPAN for
a few minutes.
\_ Okay, why don't you assemble it into something intelligent.
He only stumbled that much because he had no response.
\_ remove all uhms and ahs. next!
\_ there are no uhms or ahs in the quote, retard. |
| 2004/3/16-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12710 Activity:very high |
3/16 This is a perfect example of what I was saying the other day about
why I don't want my President to be tremendously popular in foreign
nations. This doesn't in any way endear me to Kerry or anyone else
who gets this sort of high praise from foreigners. Remember, everyone
has puts their own interests first, yours second, if at all.
http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMail&Type=text/html&Path=NYS/2004/03/15&ID=Ar00104
\_ shrug, Bush is a moron anyway. Can't blame them for liking
the less idiotic candidate.
\_ Call me when Kerry has an opinion on something.
\_ Kerry is nothing special. He's done nothing of note in the
Senate. He's an elitist pig and his campaign was only able to
just pull up even with Bush after 8 months of free Bush bashing
during the (D)em primaries. You think his ratings will
suddenly improve now that Bush is fighting back? You think
to know him is to love him and his ratings will somehow go up
as time goes on? This election is a referendum on Bush. He
could be running against any loser/winner and it wouldn't
matter. Kerry's running mate won't matter. Debates won't
matter. In November we'll all find out for real if voters want
or do not want Bush and his policies. The desires of foreign
leaders, their people, the UN, and non-voters are unimportant.
\_ And when the bill for Iraq pops up again, I'm sure those
foreigners will pop in a few hundred million to help cover
the tens of billion dollars the US is spending there. Who
cares what they think?
\_ A few hundred million is *nothing* compared to the 160
*billion* we'll have put into Iraq and Afghanistan by
this summer. The price of their 'friendship' is too high.
Do the math.
\_ foreginers pretty much foot the bill for the entire
gulf war one. this iraq war two is illegal and immoral.
US is a very bad friend in asking its allies to support
its illegal and immoral war. it's right to refuse
instead of succumbing to us pressures and bribes.
\_ Yes, because having the world despise Bush has helped the US so much.
\_ If they loved him it wouldn't matter. Foreign intelligence
services (including France, Germany and Russia) are still
working very closely with ours. The French have 200 elite
special forces guys working closely with ours on the Afghanistan
Pakistan border looking for bin Laden conducting active missions
and the leaders of other Muslim countries that should hate us
according to your theories such as Saudi Arabia are working with
us and actively tracking down and killing terrorists where ever
they find them. How exactly would good Bush PR around the
glone help?
\_ So the whole Iraq thing doesn't count anymore?
\_ What are you talking about? What do you mean by "doesn't
count"? Huh? I honestly don't understand what you're
getting at. |
| 2004/3/16-17 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:12711 Activity:nil |
3/16 somebody tell rms that http://www.gnu.org is down. \_ you can login as rms/rms to fix it yourself. \_ Permission denied. \_ holy shit! you killed http://gnu.org!!!! \_ You bastards! |
| 2004/3/16-17 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:12712 Activity:high |
3/16 New York Times/CBS poll: 11% think Kerry is a conservative, 12% think
Bush is a liberal.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/15/opinion/polls/main606465.shtml
\_ which really means between 12 and 23 percent of those polled are
ignorant morons.
\_ Yup. Which is probably the biggest problem. The leader is elected
based on television personality, and soundbite carpetbombing.
A truly wise leader would probably bore people, and probably
would avoid the job and the associated bullshit in the first
place.
\_ A truly wise leader isn't a technocrat or paper pusher. It
takes leadership to lead. Carter != leader. Reagan = leader.
GHB != leader. BC = leader. GWB = leader. Kerry != leader.
If personality weren't important we could get a computer to
do it.
\_ ob: Hitler was a leader too. Having a TV personality isn't
a requirement to be an effective leader. It's only a
requirement in the USA to manipulate public opinion. China
for example doesn't need a dancing figurehead to make
forceful national decisions. More to the point, leadership
doesn't go hand in hand with wisdom.
\_ Not a good troll. You just combine catch/key words and
bad formatting. A lazy troll.
\_ I'll feed you the cookie: China is a heavy iron fisted
dictatorship that rules by fear and force. They don't
rule at the whim of their populace. That's a good
model that would allow us to have wise but zero
charisma leaders. How about GWB declare martial law,
disband the government and do what he thinks is best
instead of poll following and wasting his time trying
to answer all those annoying reporter questions? Let's
try it for a few years and see if our country ends up
doing as well as a nice place like China.
\_ what gives you the impression that Bush answers
annoying questions from reporters? His press
conferences are 100% scripted.
\_ duh, all press conferences are. what is new about
that? you're right, press conferences are
controlled so let's use the Chinese system.
\_ I'm just wondering what you're saying. When
does Bush answer "annoying reporter questions",
if his press conferences are controlled?
\_ are u surprised? lots of the lib. vs con. stuff is nonsense.
Here is something neither of them would like to admit: GWB is a lot
like BC as a president, minus the libido. The unilateralist
interventionist PAX Amerika approach was started by BC, not GWB.
BC = GWB + sex drive.
\_ UR so KOOL saiing AMERIKA w/a K!!! hahahahahaha!!!!11
\_ and that's why I may not be voting for bush this fall. unlike
my liberal counterparts i don't froth and hate blindly just
because there's a (d) near a name nor do I fall in sycophantic
enthrallment to anyone with an (r). both BC and GWB are bad for
the country, just in different ways. the problem for me is that
kerry is like BC but stupid and ineffective and elitist. well
actually i guess that makes kerry nothing like BC. -conservative
\_ The corruption in BC's administration was unparalled in the 20th
century. The DNC has returned millions in campaign contribution
from the Communist PLA. How many contributions were never
caught? China has all of our nuclear weapon designs and
literally thousands of front companies performing industrial
espionage. What was Billy Bob's N. Korea policy - send his coke
head brother there on a tour.Between militarizing the IRS,
Forest Service, and other agencies, ignoring five or six
terrorist attacks, Waco, Elian, demoralization of the military,
etc. etc. BC was the second worst president with a tie for 1st
between FDR and Wilson. I remember posting links here in 2000
describing the 'diversity quilts' and PC other policies
Clinton's administration was pushing in the CIA. We know now
the results of these 'policies'. William Casey met with BC once
in the two years he was head of CIA. On the domestic agenda,
yes GWB is similar to BC. [motd formatd was here] [then the real
motd formatd fixed it for real]
\_ Whoah. I got sprayed with spittle just reading this onscreen.
\_ Why bother posting if you have nothing to say?
\_ The fact that you think FDR was the worst president ever says
a lot about your mindset.
\_ Yes and pointing that out says nothing about the poster,
or your differing opinions. Your implied assumption that
FDR = good and anti-FDR = insane says you really haven't
read your history or studied the long term social costs of
FDR's programs or actually the abuse of their growth and
continued existence long past their useful life span.
\_ Anyone who can't find some good in him has a problem.
You don't have to love him, but there must be something
you liked.
\_ There is 'some' good in everyone, mostly. That
doesn't make them a good president or mean they had
good policies, or more specifically in this case mean
that their policies were good beyond the time period
they were written and should have been kept and
expanded into the horror they've become today.
\_ So you're blaming FDR because later presidents
didn't end his programs when they outlived their
usefulness? How many federal programs come with
a sunset provision? |
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3/15 Do animals instinctively know not to look into the sun? I wonder how
many of them just stare at it some time and have blind spots the rest
of their lives.
\_ because it hurts so they dont? because if they did theyd go blind
and get darwined out? for the same reason human infants dont. |
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3/16 Whee! Everyone hates us and the Morrocans and Jordanians all want
to blow us up:
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=206
\_ Bring it on!
\_ we should tactical nuke the pakistan/aghan border
\_ There would be much time, and little to do. But...ah...with
ze proper breeding techniques, and a ratio of zay...ten females
to each male...I would guess zat zey could zen work their way
back to ze present gross national product within, zay, twenty
years. |
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