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| 2004/2/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack] UID:12340 Activity:nil |
2/22 <freeper anonymous lover's idiots list deleted> - hamc |
| 2004/2/21-23 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:12341 Activity:low |
2/21 What's the best tool to convert raw network traffic captured on the
wire into something useful? I'm currently reading the unparsed
output from ngrep, tcpdump and similar tools but I'd like to see that
turned into the real thing. For example, I want to see an output log
that says machine X went to host/port Y/y to grab URL Z for http
connections. I want emails going by saved out in mbox or other
human readable format. Does such a thing exist? I started to write
\- yes, but you have to email me --psb
\_ why not posted it on the web? I was looking for something
\- because as a general matter these anon requests are
annoying. i can understand for a dumb question or a
contentious issue but not in a case like this. i suppose
if you are widely disliked on sloda, that might be one
reason to ask for help anonymously. --psb
\_ maybe some people don't want their name attached
with looking for software to read raw network
traffic. the world just isn't as open minded and
understanding as you are, partha.
like that monitoring LAN network to spot abuses on
company's network, mainly to spot p2p client use at the
office --kngharv
\- if you want to look for p2p, that is a
matter of looking for the protocol. as a
general matter compliance issues are easier
to deal with because you can do offline rather
than realtime detection [offline = run on
tracedumps]. of course if you want to use
something like kazaa obliterator, then you
need to detect in realtime ... or not too
lagged batch proc. what is this "web" you
speak of. --psb
my own in perl but then realised I can't be the first person to ever
need this. Thanks!
\_ fantastic GUI utility called Ethereal. Available binaries for
windows, linux, solaris. source available. I've used it only
for reading traffic at the packet level, but perhaps if you want
application level stuff (eg, emails as opposed to SMTP packets
or whatever) perhaps you could write that yourself since its
open source. - rory
\_ Etherpeek
\_ If it doesn't have to be graphical, you might want to consider
hogwash (snort-based IDS.) Also, although it's more of a toy
than a tool, take a look at Etherape. -John
\_ use Etherape before. I find it not as useful as I would like
to be. Only thing cool about it is that it color coded traffic
from different ports. This feature allow me to spot p2p
client (most people uses p2p don;t bother with port changes),
and it is pretty good for detecting infected computer which
eat up all the bandwidth.
\_ Like I said, it's sort of a toy, although useful to get
an overview of traffic patterns. What I find really
hilarious (almost totally useless as a tool) is driftnet. |
| 2004/2/21-22 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:12342 Activity:nil |
2/21 Bin Laden surrounded and near capture? "The timing of that order will
ultimately depend on President Bush [...] Capturing bin Laden will
certainly be a huge help for him as he gets ready for this election".
http://www.sundaytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,9353,8752173-28778,00.html
\_ "The Sunday Express, known for its sometimes colourful scoops..."
Nuff said. Oh what the hell:
"The article says bin Laden's movements are monitored by a National
Security Agency satellite."
Can you imagine the outcry if Bush waited to get OBL for political
gain? Then again, the dems will accuse him of it anyway...
\_ bah! bin laden was captured by Kurds a month ago, turned over
to the Americans in secret, and is being held until closer to
the election for some Jessica Lynch style theatrics. Just you
wait and see.
\_ those kurds sure do get around!
\_ well they DO live there!
\_ uhm, no. the kurds do not live on the border of pakistan
and afghanistan. maybe a few visited using a good deal
from http://priceline.com or something but not as a people.
\_ are you, by any chance, related to our president?
\_ Hmm: "The Sunday Express, known for its sometimes colourful
scoops..." Could be, but many of the British papers are total
rags.
\_ It's being reported elsewhere as ell.
\_ Very similar to the NYT quality reporting the last decade or two.
\_ Whatever, freeper. |
| 2004/2/21-22 [Recreation/Food] UID:12343 Activity:nil |
2/20 Is there a decent chocolate store near Mountain View? I can't go to
SF or wait for mail order. Also I would be happier with buying
by weight as opposed to getting pre-packaged boxes.
\_ Prestons Candy & Ice Cream in Burlingame
650.344.3265 , they make their own candy
they do phone orders and mail to anywhere in the world
I recommend their truffles, peanut brittle, rocky road and
"coffee blacks" |
| 2004/2/21-22 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:12344 Activity:nil |
2/21 For any of you folks following the Taiwan elections:
http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=7895
\_ time for mr chen to go.
\_ you one of those mainland freaks who thinks taiwan is part of
the mainland?
\_ no, I am a tainan taiwanese, what are you? |
| 2004/2/21-22 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:12345 Activity:low |
2/21 DVD backup ruled illegal.
http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5162749.html?tag=nefd_lede
\_ Still legal in the rest of the world 8) -John
\_ this week. |
| 2004/2/21-22 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:12346 Activity:nil |
2/21 Just a rumor at this point, but...Wife of Texas Governor divorcing him
because...she caught him in bed with another man, the Secretary of
State?!
http://austin.indymedia.org/newswire/display/15577/index.php
\_ If you scroll down, they also accuse Bush of extramarital gay
affairs. It's like Matt Drudge...only on the left. The only
difference is when leftists spread obvious bullshit it's treated
as such, but you fucking rightwingers believe whatever Drudge
feels like making up this week.
\_ Drudge has an excellent track record. He's been wron exactly
once and got sued for it. He pulled the posting the same
day which is better than the NYT has done. It's easy to sit
here and toss around vague and unsubstantiated accusations
but the fact remains that drudge has an excellent record.
\_ Didn't Drudge break the Lewinsky story?
\_ Drudge is a mouthpeice for right wing smears. Some of them
turn out to be true, but that doesn't make him any less of
a mouthpeice. His basic problem is that he heavily promotes
stories for which he has no second source to confirm, and often
with a questionable source to begin with. As for the Texas
story, likely not true, but his wife IS divorcing him.
\_ As always its the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, right?
\_ Drudge differentiates between rumors and true stories. He
leaves it for the reader to decide instead of media
sources like the NYT which print a brief mea culpa after
years of publishing false stories.
\_ False stories? Besides Jaysun Blair, can you back this
up? Woops, I didn't think so!
\_ Idiot. Go read the god damned thing. It's chock
of retractions, errors, slanted word choice,
misleading headlines and editorial dressed up as
news. I'm not going to respond to your trolling
ignorant ridiculous nonsense anymore.
\_ Ha! As usual not a single real fact. And at
least they print retractions when they make
a mistake, unlike Drudge.
\_ Wow. You just argued that Matt Drudge's journalistic
integrity trumps that of the New York Times'. Are you
stupid or just a troll?
\_ Not author of comment but:
Journalistic Fraud: How The New York Times Distorts
the News and Why It Can No Longer Be Trusted
http://csua.org/u/64e
The Gospel According to the New York Times: How the
World's Most Powerful News Organization Shapes Your Mind
and Values
http://csua.org/u/64f
New York state of mind ~ A Navy officer's encounter
with The New York Times
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/978483/posts
The Times' Designated Man in the Street
(Coulter outs Times)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927766/posts?page=1,50
Just How Gay is the New York Times? Ask Richard Berke
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/913302/posts
The Times has not endorsed a Republican Pres.
candidate for 40+ years.
It's publisher was a very active anti-war protester
during Vietnam.
\_ So apparently you don't understand the difference
between having an editorial viewpoint, which is
ethical and reasonable if you state it outright,
and silently shaping your output to promote a
certain viewpoint, which is not. Compare, say,
Fox News to the New York Times. And just to
show this isn't a conservative/liberal thing,
the Wall Street Journal presents a consistently
conservative editorial viewpoint, but is
ethically on par with the New York Times and
both have vastly more integrity than Fox News.
\_ The NYT does not state outright that they're
left wing and their _news_ stories are
biased in that direction. They silently
shape their viewpoint in every run.
\_ But the NY Slimes maintains it has no
bias; yet they don't limit opinion to the
editorial page. Compare the
audience of Fox News to the nationwide
broadcast news programs:
~3 million to 30+ million for the
networks. And yet Jennings and Rather
maintain they are independent
journalists.
\_ Christ, learn to use an apostrophe'.
http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif
\_ The very idea that the NYT is neutral and
doesn't slather every story with bias is
painfully obvious. I've subscribed for
years but not because it is neutral in any
way. I understand what I'm reading. Do
you? Are you even a daily reader? |