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| 2004/2/10 [Transportation/Car] UID:12183 Activity:nil |
2/9 Got a parking ticket cuz I didn't have a front license plate. My
bumper doesn't have any holes, can I simply drill into the bumper
and nail in my plate?
\_ I thought it was only illegal to DRIVE without plates, not park
without one.
\_ Yeah now prove to the judge that you got to that parking lot
via tow truck. Stupid clown, the world doesn't work like that.
\_ Unfortunately no matter what the car you must have a front plate
in california. There are very few exceptions to this (other than
motorcycles). For any car there is some sort of mounting kit.
You may need to call a dealer and ask for the parts department.
\_ Take it to a judge and beg.
\_ Check with DMV. It might be legal to put inside the car on your
dashboard.
\_ Depending on your car, there's sometimes other mounting
options. I've seen front bumper mounts where they drilled on
the underside of the front bumper, so if they ever take
off the front plate there won't be any visible holes. Then
they just used a special bracket. If you don't care, then
you should be able to get a front mounting bracket from
whoever manufactures your car.
\_ but who cares what your bumper looks like when you take off
the plate since it is illegal as the op has found out
\_ It might be legal in other states.
\_ a new buyer might be willing to take the risk.
\_ alright so I went to the dealer and they want to charge $50
for buying the plate, and more if I want them to install it.
BTW my front bumper doesn't have any pre-drilled holes or anything
like that. So given that I'm kind of short on money, can I
just drill into the bumper with any drill and screw the plates on,
hoping the bumper material will hold the screws? Thanks.
\_ If you care about the value of your car, then it is worth
spending $ to professionally mount the plate holder. |
| 2004/2/10 [Uncategorized] UID:12184 Activity:nil |
2/9 I turned on the stove with a new empty stainless pan on it by mistake
and when I realized that, I erred again by pouring cold water into the
pan. Now it has that brownish layer on the surface. What is the
chemical composition of this layer and is it harmful? If not I would
rather leave it as it is.
\_ next time put a nice tbone steak on it instead, leave for 2 minutes
\_ You are kidding me, right? Heating won't get rid of the oxide.
\_ wow, could you have misread that any worse?
\_ It's no big deal.
\_ If you're really set on getting rid of the brownish layer,
try Barkeeper's Friend, but follow the directions or you
might mar the finish. |
| 2004/2/10 [Finance/Shopping, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:12185 Activity:kinda low |
2/9 I'm planning to go to New Zealand at the very end of December. Can
you recommend a local (Bay Area) travel agency?
\_ Why bother with a travel agency? I've never understood this.
\_ They can often get you better fares since they have
allocations of cheap tickets long after you cannot buy them
retail.
\_ Good luck getting cheap tickets to new zealand for the
end of December.
\_ I got good prices from Air New Zealand's web site for my Nov.
trip. Dec is more, but you should at least try there and make
sure you can't get the ticks there cheaper than through an agent.
But they do kinda spam the address I gave them. -crebbs
\_ ANZ has a $999 roundtrip special running until Nov. to celebrate
adding SFO to their route, but no specials after that. I'll
keep an eye on them, though, thank you. --OP
\_ Don't forget to bring your ozone layer.
\_ At least I don't have to bring my own Hobbit clothing:
link:csua.org/u/5xe (jpg) |
| 2004/2/10-12 [Industry/Jobs] UID:12186 Activity:nil |
2/9 A rare opportunity! WebFeat, a start-up provider of patent-pending
Knowledge Prism technology for academic, public, corporate and
government libraries currently has a position for a Software
Development Engineer. see /csua/pub/jobs/webfeat
\_ So, what, you sell shitty European automobiles over the web?
\_ More buzzwords than you can shake a stick at!
\_ Is the stick fully buzzword compliant?
\_ "Knowledge Prism technology"?
\_ Maybe marketroidian for 'data mining'?
\_ Just like on Startrek where everything is stored in data cubes.
Beam me up! |
| 2004/2/10 [Transportation/Car] UID:12187 Activity:nil |
2/9 Thanks for the car accident advice. I forwarded the long list of
suggestions.
\_ Wow, the motd actually helped someone.
\_ Coincidentally, my co-worker was being driven by a friend on
the freeway last night, and they skidded out of control as
well (avoiding object on freeway), ending up wrecking on the
median. A car behind them picked them up. Shortly thereafter,
another car in the #1 lane crashed into the wrecked car, sending
flying metal and glass everywhere. Everyone's fine, except
for some sore/stiff muscles, and the friend in this case
happened to have non-cheap insurance. -op
\_ remind me not to hang out with you
\_ ??
\_ mild humor hint: it's too dangerous. |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:12188 Activity:moderate |
2/10 Is it me or is rpm's whole dependency system totally fucked?
Installs are failing because of alleged dependencies on other
rpm's that I know I have, -force isn't overriding this...
any suggestions?
\_ It isn't you. You can try removing and reinstalling newer or
required versions (as appropriate) of the things you're depending
on, or (and no this isn't a troll) move to a system that doesn't
use rpm such as debian or a non-linux system, or you can compile
and install from source by hand the way we used to do it.
\_ Speaking of moving to another system, has anyone used gentoo
lately? Is it usable? Does it feel like it'll stick around?
--scotsman
\_ FWIW one of the devs at my company goes into religious fits
of ecstasy everytime he has a chance to say the magic word,
"gentoo". I've never used it though.
\_ RPM has a really screwed up dependency system, esp. the way that
it figures out what files it thinks your code depends on (building
RPMs that work on multiple versions of RPM based distros is a
PITA). The only think that I've seen that does a good job of
handling the rpm dependencies is apt-rpm:
http://moin.conectiva.com.br/AptRpm
Other than that you can try to use the --nodeps and --force options.
\_ i had a corrupt DB once, so also try "rpm --rebuilddb" |
| 2004/2/10-13 [Academia/Berkeley/Ocf, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:12189 Activity:low |
2/10 The ASUC Elections Council is now accepting applications for the
position of Technical Coordinator! see /csua/pub/jobs/ASUC
\_ Heh, the odds of a technically clued student/person getting
this job are about zero. It is ASCU, afterall.
\_ Nope, it's ASUC.
this job are about zero. It is ASUC, afterall.
\_ Actually, I know the Election Council folks. They're honest,
and they know when they don't know something and need to ask for
help. I also have some insight into this matter that you don't.
They'll probably do okay. -dans
\_ insight? so you know who the pre-chosen candidate is and
they just need a few warm bodies to fill out the roster to
make it look clean and legal?
\_ No, I put together the folks from the CSUA and the OCF
that made this happen last year, and defacto did this job.
If I say ``This candidate is an idiot, don't hire him/her,
they will take my advice.'' The original comment
indicates a complete and utter lack of knowledge of how
the ASUC works. While the ASUC does lots of stupid things,
not everyone involved in the ASUC is an idiot. -dans
\_ MOCK |
| 2004/2/10 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12190 Activity:very high |
2/10 So what do you guys think:
(a) WMDs were destroyed before the war
(b) WMDs are buried in the desert in the middle of nowhere
(c) WMDs are in Syria/Lebanon/etc
(d) There were never any WMDs
(e) WMD's are hiding with Osama.
\_ No fair relabeling your options. It makes everyone look nonsensical
\_ Aren't you sick of this topic already?
(d) WMD's are hiding with Osama.
(d) WMD's are hiding with Osama.
\_ I don't think even Wolfowitz was nutty enough to suggest (d).
\_ how about:
\_ I don't think even Wolfowitz was nutty enough to suggest (e).
\_ We know some of (A) is true. (B) wouldn't be a bad guess since
the Iraqis have buried plenty of other things in the sand but
obviously there's no proof (B) is true or we wouldn't be wondering
about it. (C) is based on intelligence rumors which is never a
100% guarantee especially in the Middle East. American intel has
been weak since we started putting up lots of high quality spy
satellites and letting the human intel skills dry up.
\_ I think, more than likely, people under hussein probably had
them destroyed to try and get back into the graces of the UN,
and that the posturing was a balance between putting on a show
of strength for their general populace and appeasing hussein.
The inspectors were there and were looking. We should have let
them continue. It was, apparently, an effective containment.
--scotsman
\_ Wait... that makes no sense. Why would people under Hussein
want to get into the graces of the UN? UN could not save them
from Hussein sending them to shredders. What possible motive
do they have for trying to appease an org which could do NOTHING
for them, vs. appeasing a dictator who could kill them on a whim.
Hussein had nothing to gain by giving up WMDs. At the same time,
almost every major nation except the US had something to gain
by having US appear with an egg on their face. Thus, what I think
happened is, the WMDs are in Syria, possibly with Russian, etc.
help. Of course, it will be really difficult to prove, since
Syria can move them somewhere else, or destroy them discreetly.
\_ I think by "people under Hussein" scotsman is referring to his
underlings, not his peasants. The people in his party would
want to help him avoid getting invaded. That being said, if
there were WMDs, it wouldn't surprise me if they had were in
Syria or buried in the desert.
\_ BUSH IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
\_ [ I have less patience than poster below. ]
\_ Good way to kill a decent conversation, trollboy. I'd
censor your dumb ass but I believe everyone has the
right to publicly demonstrate just how stupid they are.
\_ There was a really great article about this subject by the
guy who wrote "A Gathering Storm." Wish I had the URL, but
basically he had a fairly good argument that the WMD thing
post 1995 was a bluff meant to help Saddam's domestic
political situation. There's also the whole issue of the
large numbers of weapons scientists who were claiming to
work on programs in order to get money but then simply
embezzling it. Then again, his book turned out to be all
wrong so who knows.
\_ Uhm, in 1998 the entire world still believed Iraq had WMD
when the inspectors left so either the bluff was very
effective and Iraq's internal security aparatus was rock
solid or there were WMDs somewhere in Iraq.
\_ Uhm, please don't speak for the entire world when
your knowledge of the world is limited by what
your third rate media and press dumps on ya.
\_ Gee, you're right. I never read foreign press or see
what foreign dignitaries say or do anything else but
mindlessly suck up what ABC/NBC/CBS dish out at 8pm
everynight! Thanks for enlightening me! Ok, asshole,
back here in the real world, the entire world is on
public record as believing there were WMD in Iraq in
the 1998 post-inspector era. Thank you.
\_ You keep saying, but it is still not true. Hans
Blix said otherwise, Colonel Ritter (Retired US
Marine Corp Colonel, head of the UN Inspection
Team in 1998) and Russia said otherwise. Your
repetition of a lie in the face of overwhelming
evidence makes you less credible. It does not
make the lie more believable.
\_ Now you're just outright lying. I've seen
interviews with both Blix and Ritter and both
have said in public interviews that there were
wrong so who knows.
your knowledge of the world is limited by what
your third rate media and press dumps on ya.
repetition of a lie in the face of overwhelming
evidence makes you less credible. It does not
make the lie more believable.
still WMD in Iraq in 1998 post-inspectors. I was
going to give you the benefit of the doubt and
just call you ignorant but you've gone beyond
that.
\_ Prove it. I have the URLS and have posted them
time and time again. Show me the interviews
where Hans Blix or Ritter say that there
are still WMD in Iraq. You will never be
able to produce them because they never
said any such thing. You are just a big
fat liar.
\_ But, but, but it works for Fox News!
\_ bingo. nicely put. |
| 2004/2/10 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:12191 Activity:nil |
2/10 According to the McKinsey Global Institute, offshoring will benefit
the US by saving money (which can be passed on to the customer or the
investor, and you guess which one is more likely to see the money) and
by creating wealth overseas that will be used to buy products from the
US:
http://csua.org/u/5xg (Economic Times of India)
How does this make any sense? Why wouldn't offshorers take their
wages and invest them locally (i.e., buy knock-off CDs and DVDs)
instead of paying US prices for goods?
\_ Don't worry. The invisible hand will make everything right.
\_ No, it doesn't make any sense. The report is easily shredded. This
is just PR puffery from Indian IT firms.
\_ This PR Puffery is echoed by the bush administration.
\_ Yes, so? What's that have to do with the OP's questions? Are
you trying to say that because the current administration says
something is true makes it true? Think for yourself for once. |
| 2004/2/10 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:12192 Activity:nil |
2/10 Hahaha, even O'Reilly is turning against the pResident:
http://csua.org/u/5xf
\_ [OP typo corrected]
\_ That was no typo.
\_ I was being kind.
\_ At least he is (very belatedly) living up to his promise from before
the war. First it was two months, then three, then four, then six.
Still, I'm impressed. I'm sure you'd never get even that much
\_ Well, Rush was high as a kite on some serious dope, you gotta
cut him some slack.
\_ Sigh, why is this such a big shock? I've been telling you on the
motd for a looong time that Republican != conservative and that
Bush is no conservative. Jesus, here have a cookie, live it up.
--conservative
\_ It's a shock because O'Reilly is extremely egotistical, and to
see him sacrifice some pride for the sake of his word is quite
refreshing.
\_ Oh, well yes O'R is an egomaniac but he's a fun egomaniac.
\_ O'Reilly is much more skeptical about the Bush administration,
yet he blames the CIA? |
| 2004/2/10 [Finance/Banking] UID:12193 Activity:nil |
2/10 Someone told me that Perkins Loan doesn't have any interest rate
while you're in school. So it's a good insurance to have even if
you don't need the money right away. At any rate, to apply for
Perkins Loan, do you simply fill out FAFSA which then calculates
the EFC which then determines how much money you receive? |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:12194 Activity:nil |
2/10 New remote buffer overflow for Windows. Patch available
http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20040210.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-007.asp |
| 2004/2/10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12195 Activity:high |
2/10 So much talk about outsourcing. Nobody can give me the official
Bush stance on the issue? If he's for it, that's fine. Just come
out and say it and tell us how he's going to re-train or deal with
the millions of people who are going to lose their jobs.
\_ Both Kerry and Bush are / will be for it. You seem to forget
how much money corporations pour into politics. You free-traders
are naive; Walmart is the largest corporation on the planet
today, refenues larger than the GDP of all but 30 countries.
Where does Walmart produce most its products
and where does it sell the same. The
trade deficit consists predominantly of US corps
importing their products to the US. |
| 2004/2/10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12196 Activity:nil |
2/10 Why are you wondering about WMD? Bush already said they found them.
End of story. "We've found the weapons of mass destruction."
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0305/30/wbr.00.html
\_ Uh, huh. And they were where, exactly? |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:12197 Activity:moderate |
2/10 Hmmm...Motdedit with merge seems to make some...interesting mistakes.
\_ such as? -nivra
\_ Well I'm not sure...it may be some other ulletin/MS04-007.asp
\_ yay for non-mandatory locking.
\_ Well I'm not sure...it may be some other soda fuck-up-ed-ness...
but at several points today there was lots of threads which had
sections that seemed to repeat at random points, or threads which
got mixed together. Not sure if these were transient errors what
with the constant editing going on. |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:12198 Activity:kinda low |
2/10 Daniel Pipes at UC Berkeley -- TODAY!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1075408/posts#4 |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:12199 Activity:high |
2/10 If you are just an independent agent (real estate, travel, etc.) that
sells a product for other companies but never really stock it in
you own warehouse, do you need to get a seller's permit? -- confused
by the rules' wording.
\_ Depends on the product. Real Estate requires a real estate license,
but not a sellers permit. Sellers permit is for hard goods.
\_ What about an independent agent who sells hard goods for others,
i.e. he negotiates and arranges for the transaction, but unlike
a distributor he never sees or stocks the product himself? |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:12200 Activity:very high |
2/10 I've been seeing a lot in the news about outsourcing IT jobs
recently, but nobody ever brings up economic arguments about
how free trade benefits everyone. To me it seems like the best
thing for the US would be to allow outsourcing and use taxes
from increased corporate profits to help temporarily displaced
workers. Any thoughts on why all the outsourcing arguments are
emotional outbursts instead of rational economic arguments?
\_ It's money going into foreign economies, to be used there.
I don't know how increased corporate profits really leads to
increased tax intake... my impression is that any corp worth
its salt will create a shelter around the outsourced call center
so that the CC can report great profits without being taxed at
the US rate. Can somebody back me up or correct me?
\_ Actually no. For various reasons, foreign economies, esp.
those 3rd countries that you are worried about outsourcing to,
have a historical difficulty in keeping money in their own
country, and it is not getting any better. In fact this
is one reason driving them so hard to keep exporting and
getting sourced -- just to keep afloat, barely.
\_ Temporarily replaced until what? They get a burger flipping job?
But oh yeah even McDonald's was closing storefronts and laying off
people. What could be worse than getting laid off from McD's?
These are not American companies. They are vast multinational
corporations with no concern or regard for this or any other
country's people. Profit is God and it isn't being put back into
the economy in a useful way. How did HP eating Compaq, laying off
10's of thousands of Americans and moving their jobs to India help
Americans?
\_ Are you saying Carly Fiorina isn't American?
\_ I understand what CF owes to her kids. I understand
what she owes to her shareholders. I understand what
she owes to her neighbors and secretary and employees.
Can you explain to be what special duties she owes to
Americans? Does she have some special obligation also
to say white people? --psb
\_ Partha, you're an American. From this we can prove
\- how do you figure that? my point being if you
\- how do you figure that? my point is: if you
feel she/HP owe something to "all americans"
because they are "more like" americans, then
why doenst this apply to race? i would like you'
to argue why race and nationality should be
trated differently ... or fess up that they
are equally valid moral categories based on
which to treat people differently. --psb
\_ I would say that distinguishing CF from
the entity of HP dilutes the point. The
point is the corporation is operating in
this country. It reaps benefits from this
country and its stability. We should have
the balls to say "If you don't employ people
here, you should be paying higher taxes."
-scotsman
\_ So you're not an American? Then wtf are you
doing here then? Go back to your own country.
\_ He might be a permanent resident which
would mean that he isn't an American,
but he has every right to remain here
provided he does not commit a deportable
offense.
\_ Race: a function of genetics. Nationality:
a function of social grouping. I'd argue
that race is less important than nationality
on that basis, and that nationality is less
important than tribe, and that tribe is less
important than family. Depending on the
level of nurture/support you received from
those levels, you could conceivably swap
them around, with the exception of Race,
which may form the tenuous basis for initial
social interaction, but which does not
inform or impose social groups/interactions
on its own. Again, depending on the level
of support/nurture you receive, your loyalty
to the various levels in the hiearchy may
also vary. CF owes no moral duty to other
white people (or, for that matter, women);
she does owe a moral duty to America for
providing her with a socio-economic
environment conducive to satisfying her
corporate greed. As a captain of industry,
it is her duty to perpetuate the corporate
industrial model by providing jobs and
strenghtening the economy.
\_ You've contradicted yourself with
your own arguement. Sure, a CEO
*should* show loyalty to their nation.
However, their tribe, the tribe of
CEOs and other members of the plunderer
class holds far more loyalty from its
members than nations do from their
citizens. Which is why we need laws,
and which is why the world would be a
better place if the motd libertarians
would just fucking keel over and die.
\_ *shrug* I never argued that a person
should owe loyalty to their nation
over the loyalty owed to their tribe.
I simply argued that the duty to
Nation is more morally justifiable
than the duty to Race.
that not all Americans are white people. In addition,
Prince Charles is a white person. From this we can
prove that not all white people are Americans. Having
dispensed with the mythical relationship between being
white and being American, we can now move to the
specifics: CF is American and her kids are Americans.
Therefore, anything that CF does to increase her
bottom line benefits Americans, regardless of whether
she has some special duty to do so.
\_ Your sound like a classic Marxist-Leninist class warrior,
who believes wealth is redistributed rather than created.
I am not fond of Bush yet if it would be truly disastrous should
we replace him by a protectionist demagogue. Economy by
its very nature has ups and downs. Why didn't we complain when
the time was too good? Are we too spoiled to adapt and create?
Besides, other than psychological stress, do you know anyone
who is suffering horribly (homeless in People's park don't count
- they never did.)
\_ Why don't the homeless count? How about other poor people?
How about the guy who is raped nightly in prison?
\_ Well, it helped in that we can now buy computers for something
like $500 instead of $2000. More people own them now than ever
and are proficient in using them. Is losing those high-paid
R&D jobs worth it (ex DEC guys)? The answer is that it depends.
\_ This conversation is funny because you guys are all talking
about jobs which YOU hold that could be the target of such
outsourcing, and you're goofing off at work to talk about it.
Get back to work, drones.
\_ These responses are perfect examples of what I'm wondering about.
Imagine that everyone in the US can produce either 8 sodas
per day or 2 pizzas per day while people in India can
produce 1 soda per day or 4 pizzas per day. If people
in the US refuse to allow outsourcing then all Americans
must make do with s/8+p/2 <= 1 (where s is number of sodas and
p is number of pizzas). If we allow outsourcing
so that Indians specialize in pizzas and Americans specialize
in sodas which are traded 1-to-1 then Americans can have
s/8+p/4 <= 1. Thus Americans *benefit* (You can show that
Indians benefit too). The end result turns out the same
pretty much no matter what numbers you plug in. Essentially
everyone benefits by spending their labor on what they are
best at. Of course, this model ignores things like American
pizza maker's being put out of work when pizza making moves
to India. But the solution to that would seem to be to use
tax revenues to retrain them so that everyone is better off.-op
\_ Retrain them for what? These are American companies setting
up shop in other countries (basically international co's).
So the skill and knowhow are transferred, while labor, tax,
environmental etc. regulations are better for them and wages
are dirt cheap. Labor itself is a tradeable good, which
puts downward competitive pressure on labor standards. Without
protection, regular American workers can't be competitive with
other countries willing to have lower standards, as over time
the competitive advantage in skills narrows and disappears.
US still has the advantage in certain tech areas and research,
but that's not a broad employment area and corps can just use
that here with minimum investment in the economy.
\_ Retrain them for jobs in the medical profession for
example. We have a shortage of doctors in this country.
If another country can do something dirt cheap then why
not let them do it cheaply and spend our effort on higher
value products? The money saved by outsourcing to India
can be used to make our economy stronger by investing in
research, education, science, etc. Why not take the $70K
IT job and ship it to India for $20K and spend the $50K
on training the former IT worker to do something even
more productive like discovering a cure for cancer? -op
\_ White collar jobs being outsourced to India aren't being sent
there because Indians do it better, but because Indians will do
it for less. You really just explained why trade is good.
\_ I realize that, but this was simpler to show quickly.
Like I said, no matter how you set things up, free trade
usually benefits everyone. My point was that I can't
these good economic argument against outsourcing as long
as some provision is made for temporarily displaced
workers (e.g., retraining, education, unemployment). -op
\_ "free trade" does not benefit everyone. There are
winners and losers. Ask Detroit if they benefited
from the mad rush of manufacturing jobs overseas.
It benefits shareholders and CEOs. Probably overall
hurts the working and middle classes.
\_ I agree that Detroit is an example of what can go
wrong with free trade. But I fault our society and
government for not making the effort to retrain and
educate former auto workers for careers in better
professions. If they had done that, we would have
cheaper foreign cars and more prosperous workers.-op
\_ Our middle class was built on a robust manufacturing economy.
That economy was outsourced, causing massive upheavals of all
sorts and lots of Bad Stuff (c.f. 1970s, early '80s). It
was replaced by a service economy that now seems to be in
the early stages of being outsourced. What I'm wondering is
twofold: What are the consequences, economically and socially,
of another such upheaval, and what will replace the service
economy? Another way of putting the first part of the
question is, "Have you ever seen what happened to Detroit?"
Free trade definitely has its benefits, and I'm in favor of
it with some caveats, but keep in mind its a CHOICE, not
an inevitability, and I think it benefits some much more than
others.
\_ The borrow-from-the-Chinese economy.
\_ The middle/upper management economy.
\_ So do those of you who oppose IT outsourcing buy American? If
not, why is it OK for you to buy foreign cars, clothes, or
electronics but not OK for a company to offer cheaper service
by outsourcing IT jobs? I'm curious since a good response would
let me drive my Toyota, oppose outsourcing, and sleep well at night. |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:12201 Activity:kinda low |
2/10 What is the equivalent of "protected static int COUNTER=0" in C++?
Either protected or private would be ok. Thanks!
class foo {
protected:
static int COUNTER;
};
in foo.cpp
int foo::COUNTER = 0; |
| 2004/2/10 [Uncategorized] UID:12202 Activity:nil |
2/10 Amateurs.
soda [70] wc /etc/motd.public
270 2480 15425 /etc/motd.public
\_ pornP |
| 2004/2/10 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12203 Activity:kinda low |
2/10 Serious inquiry. I don't think Bush has talked about outsourcing.
What is his official position? I've heard Kerry talk on the radio
saying that he'll remove tax breaks to companies that move jobs
overseas. Also he called those CEOs Benedict Arnold CEOs. He has
also proposed legislation that would require call centers operators
to answer the phone announcing their location. I'd go farther.
All call center operators should announce their REAL first name and
location. All those sweatshops in india pick up the phone and LIE
about their name. I can tell the phony accent. They name is not
John or Mary. It's Prakash, Rajesh, Lakshmi, etc. I don't like
people lying to me. Where does Bush stand on this issue?!
\- When the people at Safeway/McD which you a great day, do
you think they should be randomly checked under peine forte
et dure for sincereity? How about when a cafe announces they
have the best coffee in the world? what is *your* stand on
steel tarriffs? --psb
\_ When the people at Safeway/McD which you a great day, do
you think they should be randomly checked under peine forte
et dure for sincereity? How about when a cafe announces they
have the best coffee in the world? what is *your* stand on
steel tarriffs? --psb
[formatting corrected. I just couldn't take it anymore.]
\_ why should they have to announce their location? how would you
like to do that?
\_ "Hello, my name is Prakash in Bangalore India. May I verify
your social security number?"
"What?! I want to talk to a supervisor in the United States.
I'm not giving my social security number to somebody in India."
\_ the opening phrase used by the call center person is not a
concern for the call center person. it's just a script. their
feelings in the matter are of no concern. |
| 2004/2/10 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:12204 Activity:nil |
2/10 Do different versions of tcsh have different policy regarding env.
variable names? I use names with a period in them and it was OK
for setenv until I upgraded.
\_ apparently not.
\_ apparently so. |
| 2004/2/10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12205 Activity:nil |
2/10 Can't wait to see the ads the Democrats put together with this
collection of headlines:
LA Times: "Bush Supports Shift of Jobs Overseas"
Seattle Times: "Bush Report: Sending jobs overseas helps U.S."
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: "Bush Economic Report Praises 'Outsourcing'
Jobs"
Orlando Sentinel: "Bush Says Sending Jobs Abroad Can Be Beneficial"
\_ I forget where I saw this one: "Intelligence Probe Could Be Trouble
For Bush"
\_ Reminds me of my favorite recent headline: "Justice Department
to Probe Cheney's Staff." They're probing Dick's Staff! Huh
huh huh huh huh huh....
\_ It hardly matters. The average voter is used to reading left wing
'mainstream' media headlines and assigning them proper value. It
would be woefully stupid to run a political campaign based on media
headlines anyway. OTOH if they had actual Bush quotes standing at
a podium saying "Sending American jobs overseas is good for
American workers!" then there'd be something to talk about.
\_ So a report out of the administration isn't as disturbing to
you as a press conference? These are the same arguments that
pushed NAFTA through and decimated our factory-job supply.
Keep pushing those margins and you'll have a lot of angry,
out of work people. Sounds like a good recipe for crime or
revolt.
\_ Please put more words in my mouth so I don't have to think.
Thanks! No, a report out of the administration is actually
the same as a press conference or speech. A headline from
the 'mainstream' media is useless. I'm anti-NAFTA, btw, so
be careful you poke that stick.
\_ The headlines are talking about that report. What is your
point? Do you disbelieve that report exists or what?
\_ I truly wonder if liberals aren't so disorganized that they can
put together such an ad. Are they really that far from Dean's
mentality on rallying his base?
\_ YEEAARRRGGHH!!
\_ Needs more Gs. |
| 2004/2/10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:29788 Activity:nil |
2/9 I'm in search of a new blogging script. I've used b2 in the past, but
it's no longer being developed, and I thought I'd see what else is
out there. What do you use, and why?
\_ b2 is still being developed; it lives on as WordPress. I use it
because it's free and simple. http://www.wordpress.org |
| 2004/2/10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:29789 Activity:nil 76%like:29791 |
2/10 How come the following print 1,2 instead of 2,2? CONFUSED.
class A{
int m;
public void Main(){
B b;
A a;
b = new B();
a = b;
b.mb();
a.m = 2;
System.out.println(b.m);
System.out.println(a.m);
}
}
class B extends A{
int m;
public void mb(){
m = 1;
}
} |
| 2004/2/10-11 [Consumer/CellPhone] UID:29790 Activity:high |
2/10 Bluetooth phones are hackable:
http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5155927.html?tag=xlr8yourmac |
| 2004/2/10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:29791 Activity:nil 76%like:29789 |
2/10 How come the following prints 1 and 2? If I do a=b, shouldn't
they contain equivalent member variables?
class A{
int m;
public void Main(){
B b;
A a;
b = new B();
a = b;
b.mb();
a.m = 2;
System.out.println(b.m);
System.out.println(a.m);
}
}
class B extends A{
int m;
public void mb(){
m = 1;
}
} |
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