Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2004:February:09 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2004/2/9 [Transportation/Car] UID:12166 Activity:nil
2/8     Is there a google feature for comparing two products? For example,
        IE vs. Firebird, Mach 3 Turbo vs Sensor Excel, Honda Civic vs
        Toyota Corolla...
        \_ "Mach 3 Turbo" "Sensor Excel" +review
2004/2/9-12 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:12167 Activity:nil
2/8     Any alums working for a company developing Organic LED technology?
        Kodak, duPont, Philips are some big names.  I may start PhD research
        next year involving OLEDs, and would like to start building
        relationships with companies.  Any kind of headstart would help.
        Please email me with info.  -sax
        \_ some of the censored responses lead me to elaborate.  I'd like
           to obtain samples this year, so that next year I can develop
           real tech specs.  The payoff for a company willing to work with
           me will really be in the 4-6 year range, and will be in free
           publicity, free research into functional uses for the material,
           and in the end large purchase orders when I get to that part
           of the funding cycle.  Plus it's an artistic endeavor, so any
           donations are probably tax deductable.   -sax
                \_ what is your GRE score, smart ass graduate student?
                   \_ "billions upon billiona upon billions..."
        \_ hello PhD candidate. I know you're very good with GRE/written
           qualifying exams/theory shit. But I just wanna know how much
           common sense you have. Like, are you good with managing money,
           interacting with people, and doing other stuff?   -curious
                \_ you are a stupid dick.  Saxby works at the art museum and
                   draws his own comics.  He's better at "interacting with
                   people" than you apparently are.
2004/2/9 [Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:12168 Activity:kinda low
2/8     Any Prius drivers out here?  Your feedback?  I hear bad things
        about the high cost of frequent battery replacements, but would
        like some first-hand accounts.  Thanks.
        \_ The brake lights are set too high so it blinds the driver behind
           the Prius.  Whiplash, anyone?
          \_ did you get the Prius at MSRP?  It appears the Civic Hybrid is
           \_ Also, military, law and politics, the usual careers for
              ambitious men, were closed to Jews in Europe, due to
              anti-Semitism. So moneylending and trading were the
              only professions available.
             not as near as the Prius Price/Value wise.
        \_ Battery warranty on the 2004 Prius is 8 years / 100,000 miles.
           I read that the cost of a 2003 battery is $5,200, but no one
           has needed to replace it in the ~ 3 years the 2003 Prius has been
           out.  obGoogle, 2004 prius battery cost.
        \_ I really want to buy a hybrid vehicle, but why must they always
           \_ Check out the Hybrid Humvee.
           \_ Are you talking about the 2004 Prius?  It looks much better
              than the 2003.  I've already seen a few of the 2004 on the road,
              and you get used to it fast.  There are worse looking Toyotas
              that are non-hybrid (Matrix?).
           \_ the new Prius styling is really sleak. however, someone mentioned\
              during raining days, you'll get a splash of water from the car
              right into your seat. It appears everyone is getting the Prius
              at least MSRP.
        \_ Battery warranty on the 2004 Prius is 8 years / 100,000 miles.
           I read that the cost of a 2003 battery is $5,200, but no one
           has needed to replace it in the ~ 3 years the 2003 Prius has been
           out.  obGoogle, 2004 prius battery cost.
           have such lame styling?  The Prius is a nice car but it looks like
           those cars from Back To The Future Pt. 2.  The Civic Hybrid just
           looks like a Civic, which of course Honda has been gradually
           uglifying for the last 10 years.
2004/2/9 [Computer/HW] UID:12169 Activity:nil
2/8     I have a few external drives that I accumulated over the years and
        still use occasionally, but they are too many to fit on my very
        limited desk space.  Are there cheap but sturdy desktop racks for
        them?  The stackable kitchen table racks found in target/walmart
        just isn't stable enough.
        \_ Since a brand new drive costs next to nothing, I'll bet the price
           of a rack to hold all your ancient soon-to-crash drives will cost
           more than buying a new one and moving all your data over.
2004/2/9 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:12170 Activity:nil
2/8     prompt: mutt
/usr/libexec/ Shared object "" not found
        \_ YAY, pine is fuxored too.  I think admin SNAFUS like this and the
           spreading soda relay ban (which apparently root doesn't want to do
           anything about) means that I'll be bringing to an end my use of
           soda for email.  Ah well, its been a nice one guys.
           \_ Spreading soda relay ban?  Yahoo has a fucked up test and has
              blocked much of the world, and their abuse department is nearly
              always unhelpful.  As for spreading, the complaint below ended
              up being a typo.  So unless you have evidence of this, I would
              say you're full of shit.  If you aren't, mail root with the
              evidence.  Don't fucking complain on the motd. --scotsman
              (P.S.  The problem described above is probably something like
              a broken LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variable.  If there was another
              problem it must have since been fixed.  Both work for me.)
              \_ Well, it worked for me yesterday, and it worked for me now.
                 But it didn't when I posted the above.  I guess either my
                 env variables are in a quantum state or someone with root
                 has been tinkering.  Thanks for making it work again.  -- op
           \_ Is there a free alumni email account at cal?
              \ <DEAD><DEAD>: free forwarding for life
           \_ they do ok for the salary they get.
2004/2/9 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:12171 Activity:nil
2/8     CA: At-a-glance look at Proposition 56
        Vote NO unless you'd like to tax CA out of existence.
        \_ When was the last time anyone here voted yes on a propsition in CA?
           \_ I vote some up and some down.  I actually read them in full plus
              the various opinions and analyst reports before voting.  You say
              that as if you expect everyone always votes NO on all of them.
              If that were the case they'd all have always failed, yes?  We
              know that isn't the case.
2004/2/9 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:12172 Activity:nil
2/8     Is there a way to have IMAP not sync certain folders?
        \_ isn't this dependent on your mail client?
           \_ i was wondering if there were something like a .dontsync file
              or something. anyway, I'm using Mail (OS X), so if there's a
              client specific way, that would be great.
2004/2/9 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:12173 Activity:nil
2/9     A colleague is starting an IDS user group in silicon valley.  If any
        security types are interested, have a look at  -John
        \_ Okay, went there, it's a mailing list setup. Now what? Does
           your colleague want us to sign up for the mailing list?
2004/2/9 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:12174 Activity:kinda low
2/9     Another Albright success story.  Gotta love that woman!
        \_ Wouldn't the lead-in, "Al Qaeda has the bomb!" have been enough
           of a troll without reference to Madeleine Albright, who seems to
           have nothing to do with this story?
           \_ You don't seem to understand how the government works.  That's
              ok.  You have time.
              \_ Oh, right, I forgot about the black helicopters.
                 \_ Wow, nice attempt at going way off topic.  Maybe you'd like
                    to go re-read the URL and join us for serious discussion.
                    \_ What part of this discussion has been serious?
        \_ Whoa, like, dude, the Clinton Administration has been out of power
           for MORE than three years now.  You guys need to get it out of your
2004/2/9 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12175 Activity:high
2/9     Holy smoke, CNN/Time has Bush approval at 42%.  Aren't you wingers
        even a little bit worried now?
        \_ That's just the bias of the liberal media.
           \_ Ahhh, right.  Sorry, I'll assume the position again, sir.
        \_ URL?
           \_ Its from this issue of Time:
              Kos has a scan here of the relevant graph.  Yes its a partisan
              website, deal with it:
              \_ Also, the numbers on the top right are REVERSED!  Go go TIME!
           Reports this backwards from Time. One of them is wrong.
           \_ Time printed it backwards.  Ah well.  Gotta love copy editors
              asleep at the switch.
2004/2/9 [Reference/Religion] UID:12176 Activity:moderate
2/9     Serious question (any trollish responses will be deleted):  I watched
        "Nature" on PBS last night.  It was an episode on diamonds.  They
        mentioned that Hasidic Jews dominated the diamond business, from
        New York to Antwerp.  Showed a lot of Hasidic Jews cutting diamonds
        and dealing diamonds, etc.  Anybody know how this business became
        this way?  Thanks.
        \_ If i see you delete one response, I'll kill your whole fucking
           thread, you asshole censor.
        \_ Go read the Elders of Zion and the Arab media and you'll have a full
           and complete understanding of this and other Jewish Conspiracies.
        \_ This is a shot in the dark but perhaps it grew out of Jews running
           Europe's banking system in the past because of biblical prohibitions
           against usury.  They were probably the best people at assessing and
           guarding jewelery.  Notice the eytmology.
        \_ Oh!  Oh!  He censored a response!  Better delete the whole thread now
           big man!
2004/2/9 [Uncategorized] UID:12177 Activity:nil
2/9     Is there a particular reason why most of the bright PhD's I've met
        at work are really good at solving theoretical problems [that few
        care about] yet they can't code, manage money, interact with people,
        and deal with other aspects of life as well as other people?
        \_ See, you tried this troll already and it didn't work.  What makes
           you think it will work the second time? -- PhD student
2004/2/9-10 [Health] UID:12178 Activity:very high
2/9     Does MyDoom keep sending out emails?  I'm getting a lot today and I
        thought this one was dying.  Is it just people getting their emails
        that came over the weekend?  [formatd]
        \_ MyDoom.A is supposed to expire on the 12th.  MyDoom.B sometime in
           March. --scotsman
           \_ But does it send emails just on the intial infection, or do they
              keep coming?
              \_ Looking at our logs, I would say they just keep sending.
2004/2/9 [Transportation/Car] UID:12179 Activity:nil
2/9     Hi folks, my girlfriend's friend got into a car accident on the
        freeway involving four cars (perhaps minor body damage, everyone
        apparently fine, cops did show up), and it appears she is at fault
        (lost control, maybe bald tires).  She got the minimum required
        insurance through CA state, which was contracted to GE Auto Insurance
        (now owned by AIG) in this case.  She talked with an AIG rep about
        details of the accident and they told her they recorded the phone
        conversation, told her to hire a lawyer since the other parties
        already had theirs, and sent her a letter saying she may be 100%
        responsible for the accident.  I talked with my brother who's a
        lawyer (not his area though) and he says that usually insurance
        companies provide a lawyer for you, and they end up settling with the
        other lawyers for the full amount of the policy.  He suspects that
        they are not providing a lawyer because it's through CA state, and
        that the lawyer she hires should find out why her insurance company
        isn't providing one.  Any comments on the insurance company not
        providing a lawyer part, or anyone else who has experience with auto
        insurance purchased through CA state?  Thanks.
        \_ the insurance company should be supplying a lawyer to
           protect her!  Unless it's a bad insurance company.
        \_ It sounds like if you she can afford a lawyer, she should get one.
           Try contacting these people, they might help, but don't count on it:
2004/2/9 [Recreation/Food] UID:12180 Activity:nil
02/09   The pretty boy wasn't always pretty.  In my senior year in high school
        and first year at berkeley, I had a lot of large, red, exploding
        pimples on my lower jaws.  It was disgusting.  Things changed when I
        decided to take control over what I eat.  First, I stopped drinking
        milk and sugar water.  Cows are injected with growth hormones to make
        them produce more milk for the corporate farmer.  You don't want that
        in your body.  Don't trust the "hormone-free" milk either.  You can
        get all the calcium you need by eating spinach or other green leafy
        vegetables.  I'll post more tips on what I did in the coming weeks.
              -pretty boy
        \_ Tell us more about yourself.  Age?  Race?  Skin type?  Fair or dark?
        \_ I eat anything I want and don't have any pimples. Sucks to be you.
        \_ I cured my pimple problem after using Clearasal and no change in
           eating habits.
           \_ you know the difference between symptom suppression and
              eradicating the root cause right?  E.g., taking pills to lower
              blood pressure is symptom suppression.  Root cause is people
              eating fatty crap that clogs up their arteries.
        \_ I always thought pimples = hormones / face washing
                \_ pimples = hormones * stressing about your goddamned skin
           \_ I think the percentage of people with hormonal problems are
              very small.  Just like the obese people.  Vast majority is
              cause by people eating too much crap and likes to blame their
              problems on their genes.  Taking responsibililty is too hard
              for most of those people.  You are what you eat.
              \_ I was referring to how everyone gets pimples during puberty.
        \_ Well, the added Hormone is great for the ladies though.
        \_ I'm surprised pretty boy isn't causing a flame-fest this time.
        \_ How are you doing in the babe department, pretty boy?
2004/2/9-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12181 Activity:high
2/9     Firebird becomes firefox - version 0.8 is out...
2004/2/9 [Uncategorized] UID:12182 Activity:nil
2/9     \_ Oh!  Oh!  He censored a response!  Better delete the whole thread now
           big man!
           \_ ok if you say so
              \_ And do a shitty job of it, at that.
2018/11/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2004:February:09 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>