2/6 A guy I work with who is not a US citizen wants to give money to an
American political campaign. He's convinced that he can just use his
credit card to donate a hundred bucks and no one will notice. Is he
right? I actually like working with this guy, and would hate to
see him get deported over some dumb stunt like this.
\_ Judging by the responses below, he should consider the prevalence
of hostile idiots in the US, decide that he doesn't give a rat's
ass about our defective political machinations, and use the
cash for something that will benefit mankind a bit more in the
long run, like a down payment on a hot tub. Some of you people
don't seem to know (or care) about the extent to which other
parts of the world look on US politics with a mixture of amusement
and sheer unbelieving horror. -John
\_ Hey John, guess what? No one in the US cares *or should care*
what other people in the world think of our politics. They
should mind their own fucking business and worry about their own
very often very fucked up systems. The *least* important concern
for anyone here is what anyone anywhere else thinks of our
system, our politicians, or anything else. Envy and jealousy
are so ugly.
\_ Of course we should care about how others think about
our political system cause we are always trying to
regime change other countries, by force or otherwise,
to be like ours, and it would make our job a little easier
if they like our system.
\_ That'll never happen since they get a highly distorted view
of our country from their government run media. You really
think a foreign government is going to go out of it's way
to show it's people anything good about our system? Esp.
in places like the middle east?
\_ what a DUMB ASS. $100 will not make a difference. Better donate
that money to Redcross, and/or the Green Linux Association or
Bay Area Bike Ride Fanatic Club
\_ If he is an Israeli AND was not born in Iran/q, then he can do
whatever he likes. If not, he might get in trouble. If he is from
some other countries, he would be damned by just having the thought.
\_ oooh, nice little racist troll. good one.
\_ here's a helpful little tidbit you should try to keep in
\_ You still haven't explained why it is racist.
\_ no cookie, troll.
\_ it's obviously not a troll, moron.
(the request for explanation that is)
\_ quite obviously it is and I'm not biting. no
cookie, troll. that's the best you'll get
out of this one. calling me a moron and
abusing the word "obviously" doesn't make it
different from the troll that it is. troll.
mind next time you want to voice your opinion or call things
\_ why not jsut have him give the money to you and you give the money
racist: You are an idiot. You have a reading comprehension
problem, and are too stupid to be runing around using loaded
words like that. I am not the person who posted the replied
to comment, and the comment isn't correct, but it was not
\_ can't this be construed as money laundering?
racist. You probably can't do anything about your stupidity
but you can refrain from subjecting others to it; please try
-phuqm
\_ Here's a little tidbit that's about as helpful or useful
as anything you've ever posted to the motd: FUCK OFF AND
DIE.
\_ You still haven't explained why it is racist.
\_ it's obviously not a troll, moron.
\_ He's right, it's a troll. Trollity troll!
\_ why not just have him give the money to you and you give the money
to the candidate?
\_ can't this be construed as money laundering?
\_ Even better, have him give you the money and tell him you donated
it and pocket it for yourself.
\_ Bingo!
\_ Maybe he should influence politics in his own country.
\_ He comes from a neutral country with the world's dullest
politics.
\_ That's his own fucking problem and no excuse to mess with
\_ The amazing thing is that this thread was actually
not intended as a troll, although it seems to have
turned into the troll of the day. Oh well. -OP
\_ No I don't think it was a troll since I know foreigners
with the exact same intent and attitude. You have the
right to do anything you'd like to international law
breakers as soon as there's an international law, troll.
\_ Maybe he should influence politics in his own country.
to improve it through internal efforts.
the politics in this country.
\_ Nah, now that US is world's police man, openly defies
international laws and claims the right to regime change
other countries, he has every reason to try to influence
politics in the US since it's easier to improve his
country by cajoling US to regime change it than to try
to improve it through internal efforts.
\_ Everyone in the world has a reason to attempt to influence
politics in the only super power. They don't have the right.
\_ All national governments do (or should do) what is in
the best interests of the nation as a whole. Your
government has chosen to interfere in foreign
nations. Other governments have chosen to interfere
in our government. You are a citizen, not a national
government and by interfering in a foreign government
you are creating your own foreign policy which is
detrimental to the rest of the nation as a whole. If
you'd like to create your own foreign policy go make
your own nation somewhere else first.
\_ can I help a foreigner to influence politics in his
country?
And I'm not going to even bother with the trollish bit about
international laws nonsense.
\_ You haven't noticed this whole thread was a
troll and you jumped right into it? And
for the guy.
directly to a candidate, give money to an interest group that
supports his positions.
yes, I have an inalienable right to dethrone the
international law breaking lying through its teeth bush
regime.
\_ The amazing thing is that this thread was actually
not intended as a troll, although it seems to have
turned into the troll of the day. Oh well. -OP
\_ No I don't think it was a troll since I know foreigners
with the exact same intent and attitude. You have the
right to do anything you'd like to international law
breakers as soon as there's an international law, troll.
\_ Nothing wrong with that. It's not like he donated millions
for the guy.
\_ This is almost the right answer. The real answer is that he
*can* do it because it is such a small number no one will
notice but he *shouldn't* do it and you sure as hell shouldn't
be helping a foreigner influence politics in your own country.
\_ can I help a foreigner to influence politics in his
country?
\_ Can? You *can* do many things. I don't think you should.
\_ My country is doing it all the time. Why shouldn't
I do it too?
\_ All national governments do (or should do) what is in
the best interests of the nation as a whole. Your
government has chosen to interfere in foreign
nations. Other governments have chosen to interfere
in our government. You are a citizen, not a national
government and by interfering in a foreign government
you are creating your own foreign policy which is
detrimental to the rest of the nation as a whole. If
you'd like to create your own foreign policy go make
your own nation somewhere else first.
\_ are you really this stupid?
\_ Perhaps the better thing for him to do is, instead of giving money
directly to a candidate, give money to an interest group that
supports his positions.
\_ He should donate to a political party in his own country that
supports his positions. As a foreigner he has no 'positions'
in this country. |