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| 2004/1/30 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Languages/Functional] UID:12020 Activity:nil |
1/29 Anyone know what strpbrk (the c library function) stands for?
\_ http://tinyurl.com/2bupw (developer.apple.com)
\_ He's not asking for the manpage; what does the pbrk part mean?
\_ probably STRing Pointer BReaK, if someone has the ISO C 89
standard they could look it up.
\_ that's the obvious guess, but if you think about it,
it doesn't really...say anything. btw, i have a copy of
the c standard, and what it means is not mentioned.
it's also a strange name compared to say, strchr/strrchr,
which perform pretty similar functions, just on a single
character. -op
\_ from the book:
char *strpbrk(cs,ct) return pointer to first occurrence
in string cs of any character of string ct or NULL if
none are present.
\_ You're not answering the question either. The question is
about etymology. Anyway, this is the sort of thing that
probably should be asked on comp.lang.c.
\- it means "in a STRing return P pointer to the first
BReaK character". you may wish to google for say
"lisp scheme skip-until parser break" --psb
\_ From the BSD manpages it says :
"strpbrk - locate multiple characters in string"
From this I'm guessing you could use it to locate things like "\n\t"
which would be a STRing Paragraph BReaK. |
| 2004/1/30 [Uncategorized] UID:12021 Activity:nil |
1/29 Apologies for re-arranging threads. Had to restore the Motd Censor's
work. |
| 2004/1/30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12022 Activity:nil |
1/29 US Troop suicides mounting in Iraq war.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/29/eveningnews/main596755.shtml
\_ not surprising... when you sign up for the military, you essentially
become their slave. if you disobey or refuse to fight, you get
the dishonor of being courtmartialed.
\_ Yeah, it would be better if we had an all volunteer force. |
| 2004/1/30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:12023 Activity:very high |
1/29 Ah, our good friends and allies...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/24/terror/main595582.shtml
\_ Mussharif is only holding onto power by his fingernails. If
he let in US troops that would be the end of him.
\_ so who exactly is booting him out and why would they be
successful?
\_ Good grief. Just go read about the past couple of years in
Pakistan in your favorite news venue.
\_ I have. I read a lot of hysteria, and it's tough to
know how exposed leaders of state actually are in
foreign countries.
\_ So you can't figure it out yet you call it hysteria?
I think 2 assassination attempts in a week is not
hysteria. Maybe you've got a stronger stomach than
me and Mussharraf.
\_ how about the nearly weekly assassination attempts, blamed on
Al-Queda/Taliban folks?
\_ One could say Musharraf is on the verge of getting killed,
or he has quashed the radicals responsible and tightened
security. Now which argument is valid?
\_ Having survived 2 very close assassination attempts very
recently it is unlikely he has magically quashed the
radicals responsible since then. Now which argument is
valid?
\_ for those who think we've always care about democracy. This
Mussharif guy is someone who overthrew a democratic elected
government at first place. He is a prime example of "as long as
you are pro-American, we don't really care what you do."
\_ "for those who"... no one thinks we've "always care about
democracy". that's a big fat straw man.
\_ do you acknowledge that it was a bloodless coup, that the
democratically-elected leader was corrupt, and that Musharraf
could just have easily not supported the U.S. strike against
the Taliban?
\_ Pakistan needed an ally to offset India/China. That has
nothing to do with the above line stating that this is
some wonderland where we always do the moral thing just
because it is the moral thing. No one believes that. It
is, as I said, a big fat strawman and now you're just
trying, and failing, to change the subject.
\_ Pakistan has one of the best spy agency outside the super-power
state. I really think Mussharif knows a lot more than he is
willing to admit.
\- i suspect pakistan's spy agency as a pretty limited set of
objectives. --psb
\_ 1) know what India is doing, 2) protect bin Laden and other
al Qaeda people, 3) know what is going on in the disputed
territories, 4) fuck shit up in disputed territories, 5) send
hit squads into Indian parliament. 5 isn't so many, I guess. |
| 2004/1/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:12024 Activity:very high |
1/29 HEY MOTD Censor. Do you think the fact that people are actually
actively debating on a thread might be a hint that people want
to fucking talk about it? STOP DELETING THE POLITICS!
\_ you can masturbate in private.
\_ yes, but the motd censor is an asshole in public.
\_ if we're talking about something that doesn't interest you, you
can safely ignore it. you're not being forced to read or
participate or even read the motd at all. grow up. the motd
isn't your personal playground where you set the topics. go
open your own website if you want to censor free and open debate
and discussion. |
| 2004/1/30 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:12025 Activity:nil 61%like:29770 |
1/29 Looking through some Perl files, and I noticed some files with
a line consisting of just a "1;" at the end. What does that
mean? - perl newbie
\_ return code.
\_ thanks.
\_ When you "require" another file, it runs through and expects a
"true" value at the end. ergo, 1;. It's in effect a return code,
but for a different reason.
\_ thanks, makes sense now. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Computer/HW/Memory] UID:12028 Activity:nil |
1/29 Does DDR-SDRAM run at twice the FSB? like does 333MHz DDR-SDRAM
require a FSB of 166 or 333 MHz? I can't find a lucid explanation.
\_ Yes. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Uncategorized] UID:12029 Activity:nil |
1/29 If you happen to have a library book out (whether you checked it out
or "borrowed it without informing anyone"), please bring it back to
the office by this Saturday morning (January 31?). I will be doing
an inventory and barcoding books this weekend and would greatly
prefer not having to handle books individually as they trickle in
or randomly appear.
Thank you, jvarga |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12031 Activity:nil |
1/30 What do you think would happen if the Democrats started publicly
running on the claim "Bush will take away the right to abortion
if he is reelected" ... and they just keep saying that over and
over and over. --psb
\_ You adorable little neocon, you. Still, it's funny that I haven't
\- where did *that* come from? --psb
heard anything about abortion, yet. Given W's clear intentions and
how far they are from a sizable portion of the electorate, you'd
think they'd be making more meat out of it. Maybe they don't want
to touch it until after the national.
\_ Very little. Those lines have already been drawn. Those who are
pro-abortion and pro-Bush know it's possible and will fight the
issue when it comes up, but it isn't enough to shift votes. The
reverse is true too.
\- look there is a general sense that "ooh bush owes some favors
to the crazy right wingers" i am talking about taking the
sort of sleazy "if the democrats get into offices the will
spend a billion dollars to trawl the prisons for black serial
rapist and subsized their relocation to saratoga, ca ... be
afraid!" type tactics and using them against the Reps. It
will be sort of hard to say "john kerry will sell texas to
the communistas" since they just need to trot out john kerry
walking into a freefire zone while bush is at happy hour eating
pork rinds. you cant make something like capital punishment
reform an issue. nor even gun control. abortion may be the
one issue that will energize you lazy hedonistic liberals.
my interest here is academic. you may wish to read "the 480".
--psb |
| 2004/1/30-2/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Virus] UID:12032 Activity:moderate |
1/29 My roommate's computer (IE6) keeps getting all her requests for
http://yahoo.com redirected to http://yeah.com. She swears against all spyware.
Any idea how to get rid of this?
\_ http://security.kolla.de
It's been recommended by many places. This guy takes
donations.
\_ this is "Spybot" that the poster below mentions.
\_ my gf's computer once had all search sites redirected in the
hosts file. i've also seen some weird dll's (ieXXX.dll) in the
system32 (?) directory. a reasonable virus scanner will catch the
rogue DLL.
\_ http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware
\_ Adaware is nice, but it's not managed to find/ditch
a few nasty browser redirect "trojans" -John
\_ SpyBot, too. I install these two programs for everyone with
a problem computer. Your roommate's computer has spyware; and
if she swears against it, then it was her evil boyfriend surfing
gay porn sites (not that there's anything wrong with that) that
infected her computer.
\_ USE FIREBIRD
\_ I've switched back from FireBird to IE. It doesn't have flash
support by default, only works w/ 95% of websites (THIS SUCKS).
\_ install the plug-in. big deal. I noticed the 5% @first, but
I don't notice it anymore, and I never have to open IE to
browse a site I have trouble with. Sure, some sites look
a little weird, but I can live with that, and as I said,
it doesn't bother me. The amenities of FB outweigh the
inconvenience, imo. Of course, 0.8 is due out very soon,
so you could just wait, and not have to install once, then
again 2 weeks later.
\_ otoh, flash installer automatically detects mozilla.
\_ How is firebird any better then Mozilla on any reasonably
fast computer?
\_ it's not really. there are some extras i guess, like ctrl-k
googling, but nothing seriously better, and quite a few things
seriously worse (of course, they don't claim to be production
ready either).
\_ Google says that you need to fix the hosts file, which not all
spyware fixers correct. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:12033 Activity:nil |
1/30 Someone asked about knives a while back. These aren't 5 star knives,
but a good deal:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009XFSI/ref%3Dnosim/slickdeals/002-3925468-0256826
\_ what is a 5 star knife? Certainly not henckels or wusthof.
\_ wusthof has a $350 chef's knife. i hate ceramic knives. bite me.
\_ "5 Star" is one of Henckels' lines. I think the op was referring
to knives of high quality, though.
\_ Those look like crap to me. They are full-tang riveted, but they
are stamped, not forged, and made in China, which is not reknowned
for their good knives. Henckels and Wusthof make their better lines
in Germany and the cheaper ones in China and Spain. Stamped knives
like these go dull quickly, and have fairly flexible blades, which
makes them not very safe or easy to use.
That being said, I have seen reasonably cheap Chinese knives on
Amazon that were pretty good. The key diference was that they were
forged. The easy way to tell is that the blade gets thicker near the
top and has a lump of metal where the blade meets the handle. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:12034 Activity:nil |
1/30 I really love how every thread that points out glaring faults with
the Bush administration has as its response "Well, what about when
Clinton did..." Can we agree that both had their fuckups and their
appearance of wag the dog and move on. I think 500 dead troops and
their families would want that. --scotsman
\_ Except you are only admitting it retroactively. Where was your
foaming at the mouth when Billy was in power?
\_ You call this foaming at the mouth? Have you read some of your
own crap below? --scotsman
\_ This is beautiful, Ben. You were just complaining about this
"well you do it too" line of reasoning a few lines above...
\_ You miss my point. Again. I reject you calling my
post "foaming at the mouth," and while I don't have proof
of who you are, because you don't sign, your rants on
Clinton are attrociously rabid. --scotsman
\_ I for one WAS pissed when Clinton pulled this crap. Clinton's
wag-the-dog stuff was quite cheap by comparison and didn't cost
any U.S. lives (not that Sudanese lives don't matter too) --!op |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Science/Biology] UID:12035 Activity:nil |
1/30 Georgia School Official Wants No 'Evolution'
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109939,00.html |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12036 Activity:high |
1/30 The Real Way Presidential Elections Are Won:
http://www.anesi.com/presname.htm
\_ psb for President!
\_ why doesn't psb use "\_" like everyone else? his "\-" is
inferior and shows a selfish refusal to follow social
convention. clearly not a team player. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Academia/UCLA] UID:12037 Activity:very high |
1/30 Props to "She Bangs" on American Idol ... go Beahs!
\- What the heck is this about?
\_ It's about some lame ass guy on some lame ass show. It's
better that you not get into it.
\_ Some people wait a lifetime for this damn show to get off the air.
\_ Hasn't this fucking show died yet? \_ that's "Beah!"
\_ Nope. Would you like to start a thread, ranting
and raving about that now?
\_ Was he a Cal student? I thought he was UCLA.
\_ UCB Civ Eng. Anyone here know him?
\_ Same thing.
\_ wow, someone actually paid a few bucks to register this domain.
http://www.williamhung.net |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Reference/Tax, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12038 Activity:kinda low |
1/30 States that pay out more in federal taxes voted for Gore, states that
take in more in welfare benefit than they pay in tax voted for Bush:
http://tinyurl.com/2zswk (nytimes link)
\_ 'Cos if you're looking for sense, don't ask an American voter.
\_ Democracy is two Republicans and a Democrat deciding who is
for dinner. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Uncategorized] UID:12039 Activity:kinda low |
1/30 What time is it?
http://www.humanclock.com/clock.php
\_ Why is this funny? |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Science/Biology] UID:12040 Activity:insanely high |
1/30 Speaking of liberal vs. conservative, what's with conservatives and
biology education?
http://csua.org/u/5s0
\_ It's not even really "conservatives". It's the fucking
evangelicals.
\_ The Republican party is at their beck and call. Change that or
stop pretending there's a difference.
\_ Who are a huge power base in the Republican party, and voted for
Bush in record numbers, so he definitely owes them (84% of
evangelicals voted for Bush in 2000, as opposed to 75% for
Reagan).
\_ I'm a conservative (not the libertarian kind). Evolution can
be explained, IMHO, but not as gospel truth as it is told
today. Offering other theories as very good alternatives is
a great idea (it doesn't have to be the strict creationist view).
\_ I demand equal time for my religious creation theory,
namely, that I created everything and therefore, you
are all my property and owe me homage and service.
\_ creationism in any degree of strictness is a faith, not a theory.
\_ earth created in 7 days is a strict view of creationism
(versus earth created over many many years)
\_ Any view of creationism is based on faith.
A view that doesn't hold God to 7 literal days might
at least be compatible with the physical evidence,
but that doesn't make it a theory. -tom
\_ Accepting evolution with the kind of defensive
vehemence I commonly see among bio types has to
be based on faith too. Where do bacteria
come from? I don't have to be a religious nut
to be a creationist, nor do I have to be a
creationist to be sceptical about evolution.
I can postulate some hitherto unknown
mechanism for the creation of 'bacterial
nanobots' without invoking the ugly F
word.
-- ilyas
\_ tell us about the stars, ilyas
\_ Being skeptical and flat out rejecting are
(obviously) two very different behaviors.
--scotsman
\_ I was addressing Tom's claim that any view
of creationism is based on faith, which is
a false claim. -- ilyas
\_ Then you haven't made the point. Do you
have emperical evidence to base some view
of creationism upon? Or is this one of those
"unknown unknowns" discussions? Also, as
the person below pointed out, evolution doesn't
even attempt to explain the origin of life.
\_ by the way, "jove /etc/motd.public"
also doesn't provide privacy
protection, gmartin. -tom
--scotsman
\_ How is "some hitherto unknown mechanism"
different from God? Unless you're talking
about a physical process we don't understand
yet. There are plenty of plausible theories
as to how protein structures first started
replicating themselves which don't require
a deus ex machina. -tom
\_ I am not aware of any theory which presents
an unbroken line which starts with chemicals
and ends with bacteria (the simplest form
of life not counting oddly devolved
borderline cases like viruses). There is
also no evidence for any such chain to give
us hints. Currently, I conclude that either
life arose somewhere where such a record
does exist (Mars?) and moved here via
spores, or we got pollinated by ET or God or
something like that. I don't reject the
existence of God, so having to fall back
on something like that as a possibility
doesn't bother me, except in a sense that
it makes a hypothesis inelegant (but not
unfalsifiable, necessarily). -- ilyas
\_ OK, fair enough--you can believe
absurd things without believing in
creationism. Is that your point? -tom
\_ It's not "based on faith". Evolution doesn't
specifically cover the origin of the first life.
It's about *evolution*. We obviously don't have
a lot of evidence about the earliest life, or
how similar that was to bacteria.
\_ possible theories/views:
a. earth created in 7 days
b. Evolution
c. certainly there should be many other theories
not covering a) or b)
\_ There's also the "aged earth" theory. Similar to
how Adam was created with the appearance of a
grown man, rather than an infant, so too the earth
was created with the appearance of age.
\_ That's not a theory--it's completely
tautological. "The physical world was created
by God exactly the way it is now." It's
impossible to prove or disprove, because
it doesn't do anything at all to attempt
to *explain* the physical world, which is what
a theory does. -tom
\_ 'Theories which can not be tested are
critical
examination. They should be
taught to examine everything
philosophies.'
thumpers
with mentioning its
are the only ones trying to
suppress knowledge.
\_ And the dinosaur bones were planted by god to
tempt the weak of faith.... If we're going to
go down this route, let's remember the good
Bishop Berkeley who wrote that we are all but
thoughts in the mind of god; there's as much
evidence for that as there is for creationism.
\_ you overwrote my post. use motdedit.
\_ sorry. but motdedit has no privacy protections
\_ why does it have any less privacy protection
than "jove /etc/motd.public". It doesn't
log accesses, and if you don't want to
wait in queue, then use motdedit -n
\_ where is motdedit?
/csua/bin/motdedit
/csua/bin/motdedit -h for help
\_ and when you're a complete moron, you need
privacy protections, eh?
"earth created in 7 days" is not a theory.
It's not supported by a single observable
fact. It might have been a hypothesis at one
point, and now it's been shown to be false
by the vast preponderance of physical
evidence. -tom
\_ look. I'm not a supporter of a.
I'm thinking more about the lines of
b) and c) above. Schools tend to
teach b) as gospel truth.
\_ yes, tom found me out.
\_ They also teach Physics as gospel
truth. There's about as much
evidence for evolution as for
reason.
\_ I think you don't realize
how much our understanding
that model, so why do conservatives
suddenly start hedging their bets
when the subject of biology comes up?
we should teach the first tier
theories first.
- yet another poster
of the laws of physics
changes all the time. Does
the discovery of a new type
of quark invalidate GR?
\_ There is a theory that
birds are descendants of
dinosaurs. It is a low
tier theory because while
there are evidence supporting
it and evidence countering
it. Macro evolution is
lower tier than our many
laws of physics for the same
that model, so why do conservatives
suddenly start hedging their bets
when the subject of biology comes up?
\_ not all conservatives believe
in 7 day creationism.
\_ they teach evolution just like they
teach any other scientific theory.
Why should it be singled out?
\_ There are many tiers of
theories based on how strong
the evidence is. theory of
gravity is first tier. theory
of evolution is second tier
or third tier depending on
which part of this complex
theory you are talking about.
In particular, macroevolution
is much weaker than micro-
evolution. I am not against
teaching evolution but we need
to mention the holes in it
when teaching it. And all
other factors being equal,
we should teach the first tier
theories first.
- yet another poster
\_ I agree.
\_ Why don't they teach the holes in
Christianity? Actually, they're not
"holes" so much as "tenets incon-
sistent with scientific facts".
Evolutionary theory is pretty well
established. There isn't any theory
that is 100% known and hole-free.
\_ Christianity does not claim
that it could be empirically
proven. Yea, I agree that
a woman giving birth without
having sex is inconsistent
with scientific facts. Is
that your point?
\_ Are you interested in
teaching our kids to
examine evolutionary theory
critically, or are you more
interested in covering up
its holes so as to use it
to advance your anti-
Christianity agenda?
\_ Science is all about
critical examination.
They should be taught
to examine everything
critically. The bible-
thumpers are the only
ones trying to suppress
knowledge.
\_ don't forget the
anti-Christian fanatics
who want to teach
evolution theory
without mentioning its
flaws.
\_ I haven't seen any
evidence that anyone
wants to hide "flaws"
in evolution. -tom
\_
Really? I have.
let's put it this way,
I won't tell my kids birds
are descended from dinosaurs
and I don't feel
that our educational system
should tell my kids that
humans are descended
from amoeba without
presenting it as a theory
with very significant holes.
\_ you haven't specified any
of the holes.
\_ well, I haven't
heard anyone say
why it is a good
theory either. Go
pick up a book or
stfw if you want to
go into the details.
\_ Sounds like you're
the one who needs to
pick up a book.
\_ I see what your issue is,
now. The fact that *you*
don't understand something
doesn't mean that the
theory is bad. -tom
\_ Do *you* understand
everything about it?
If not, how did you
conclude that the
theory is good?
\_ All the evidence so far
indicates that birds are
descended from dinos. While
I agree that we need to
teach children to question
I think it's pigheadedness
to deny that the argument
for birds being descended
from dinos is strong.
\_ I don't think you can say that
the Theory of Gravity (do you
really mean to say General
Relativity?) is any stronger or
weaker than the Theory of
Evolution. Both are subject
to modification in light of
new information. Both have
a tremendous body of evidence
supporting them. If anything,
The Theory of Evolution is
more important because of its
larger impact on societies
view of itself and probably
it is more important to teach
it. -biophysics grad
\_ There is a theory that
birds are descendants of
dinosaurs. It is a low
tier theory because while
there are evidence supporting
it and evidence countering
it. Macro evolution is
lower tier than our many
laws of physics for the same
reason. As for importance,
sure (that's why I said
"all other factors being
equal" above), but we need
to becareful here because
its very importance makes
its teaching subject to
non-science related pressures
from all sides.
\_ I think you don't realize
how much our understanding
of the laws of physics
changes all the time. Does
the discovery of a new type
of quark invalidate GR?
\_ You miss the point.
Let me ask you this:
Do you agree that some
theories are stronger
than others? If you
do, we have no
disagreement. If your
point is that your
knowledge of physics
is better than mine,
I agree with you.
\_ If you're not going to use motdedit, at least
have the courtesy to run an editor that can
tell you when changes have been made to the
file, then copy your work, exit w/o saving,
reopen the file, and paste your work. I don't
use motdedit, but I don't overwrite other
people's posts, either.
\_ is there such a thing as a Jewish Creationist?
\_ http://www.orot.com/ec.html#Anchor-19500
\_ http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/evotmline.html
there are darwinians, neo-darwinians, and non-darwinians. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Recreation/Food] UID:12041 Activity:nil |
1/30 Subway or Quiznos?
\_ Quiznos. Unless you like cold sandwiches.
\_ Seconded.
\_ Quiznos seem to be much more filling than Subway
\_ Quiznos >> Subway
\_ append Quiznos to Subway?
\_ any Quiznos near the UCB area?
\_ On Center near the Bongo Burger and Neutron Donuts.
\_ Bongo burger is still alive (and popular?)
\_ Yes. What's wrong with Bongo Burger?
\_ I think it is great that it has been there for a
long time.
\_ !Viva lamb sandwich!
\_ Quiznos by a longshot
\_ Togo's easily beats them both. Quizno's is basically Subway
that has been toasted. Better, but not much better.
\_ Quiznos doesn't use pressed meats. Much better.
\_ No, Quizno's is better than Togo's. I only go to Togo's
occasionally because it's right next to work. Togo's bread
isn't good. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Consumer/Camera] UID:12042 Activity:nil |
1/30 Question on digital camera flash card format: Which one do you
prefer? I'm finally thinking of getting a digital camera. Some of
the cards like xD or SD are really small. Too small for me. Only
the compact flash seems to be big enough to put a small label so
that I know what's in side. Is that even possible with all the other
smaller cards? If you have one of those, where do you keep it if
you're on the road or at home? Seems like it can be lost very
easily. Thanks.
\_Choose your camera first, sd is small but you really only need
one extra card. That is to say one large card (because the one
they generally give you WILL be too small). Once you have a larger
card, don't buy more, just buy a x-drive or something (portable hd
with a card reader). -scottyg
\_ why don't you choose your camera first?
\_ I have an olympus film camera. Stylus. I like it. I thought
of getting the same stylus digital camera. It doesn't come with
CF storage. What to do? If card format is an big enough issue
I need to switch brands. Just trying to poll you guys on what
you think. Thanks.
\_ my opinion: choose camera first. storage is a secondary
consideration.
\_ memory stick is teh suck
\_ CF is big (physically and byte-wise) and cheap. SD has good
compatability with PDAs and MP3 players. |
| 2004/1/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:12043 Activity:moderate |
1/30 Are there really that many people on the motd who like Bush? Most
conservatives I talk to don't have much respect for him, but like him
more than the Howard Dean / Kerry liberal bunch.
\_ yes, I like Bush. But true conservatives might think he is too
liberal, but they would rather have Bush than Dean/Kerry or
any democrat.
\_ don't really care much for Bush, he's okay but no Reagan. He seems
to be able to relate to people though. I didn't care much for his
father either. I think his cabinet and his internal staff are
pretty sharp though, even if you disagree with Wolfowitz and the
neocons. You gotta hand it to them, they sure know how to engineer
policy. I tend to think that the 2nd Bush era will be remembered
for its ability to exploit current events well, something that
Clinton never learned and GB Sr. only learned too late.
\_ Reagan > Bush >>>>>>>>>>>> Dean/Kerry/Democrat
\_ With a nuanced argument like that, who needs to think for
themselves! Viva la Bush!
\_ it's not an argument. it's an expression of a view.
\_ okay, why do you people like Bush? He doesn't stand for the values
Republicans are /supposed/ to believe in (minimal government
interference in the lives of citizens; goverment is more Big
Brotherly than it was before), and he keeps making more enemies for
the U.S..
Brotherly than it was before), he keeps making more enemies for
the U.S., and he lied about the war. |
| 2004/1/30 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:29769 Activity:nil |
1/29 sed help. How do I take a file, and replace all newlines/returns with
spaces, so that a multi-line file becomes one long line?
ideally, something like sed "s/$\N/ /g", but this doesn't work.
\_ need you use sed? tr works too: cat /etc/motd | tr -d '\n'
\_ thanks that rocks.
\- unless you need to batch process a whole lot of files,
you should learn to use emacs for this kind of thing.
query-replace function or something like
C-u 1000 C-xf [set-fill-column] M-q [fill-paragraph] --psb
\- i note in passing you need some reasonable understanding
of how sed works in terms of the pattern spaces and
reading in lines of data to use newline matching correctly
(it's like understanding perl chop and chomp issues ...
sed normally chops off the newline for you before
presenting for processing but then add it back in
for the output printing routine). there are a lot
of version-dependencies in sed which will also
drive you insane. --psb
\- since you asked --psb
/vol/pub/sed-4.0.8/bin/sed ':a;N;$\!ba;s/\n//g' /etc/motd |
| 2004/1/30 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:29770 Activity:nil 61%like:12025 |
1/29 Looking through some Perl files, and I noticed some files with
a line consisting of just a "1;" at the end. What does that
mean? - perl newbie
\_ return code.
\_ thanks.
\_ When you "require" another file, it runs through and expects a
"true" value at the end. ergo, 1;. It's in effect a return code,
but for a different reason.
\_ thanks, makes sense now. |
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1/29 Condi attacks WMD critics, spouts usual line:
"The president's judgment to go to war was based on the fact that
Saddam Hussein had for 12 years defied the international community."
C'mon, Condi, we defied the international community because they
defied the international community?
http://csua.org/u/5rh |
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1/30 Was Larry Wall a real person?
\_ Still is.
\_ He was when he autographed my 1st. Ed. Programming Perl.
\_ Yes, I was. --Larry Wall
\- "I AM" --lwall@netlabs.com |
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