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2004/1/17 [ERROR, uid:11813, category id '18005#5.21625' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:11813 Activity:nil |
1/16 So why is it okay for Rush to call Hillary "Hitlery" but not okay for moveon to compare Bush to Hitler? http://www.fair.org/activism/hitler-ads.html \_ Who said it was ok for Rush to do that? \_ the troll who started this thread, who also doesn't seem to understand that moveon isn't comparing Bush to Hitler--moveon held a contest where anyone on the net could submit a 30-second ad spot, and one or two of the spots compared Bush to Hitler. They were never selected nor endorsed by moveon. -tom \_ Hillary is a shrieking hag. \_ sig heil, der fuhrer hillary! \_ To me, niether is wrong; both are just kinda stupid. However, there does seem to be a difference in tone about it. Rush is trying to make a silly name. (He's more of a stand-up act than a political commentator) The Democrats I've heard were really trying to convince people Bush was Hitler reborn. |
2004/1/17 [Reference/History/WW2/Germany] UID:11814 Activity:nil |
1/16 Food for thought: If Hitler had won WW2, Bush would be saying "The Evil Allies" instead of "The Evil Axis". Yet another useless thought provided you by Motd of the Day. \_ If Hitler had won, there wouldn't be a US govt, right? \_ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679740678/qid=1074318567/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9085981-5756950?v=glance&s=books \_ Depends. The odds that Germany could have actually taken over the entire world was rather minimal. They just didn't have enough men. If you don't have an armed soldier standing on a piece of land, you don't control it. More likely, the US and Germany would have ended up in a stalemate where neither could cross the oceans to do any serious harm until technology had advanced a great deal. You'd have a German/US Cold War instead of a USSR/ US one. Hitler would eventually have been assassinated or dropped dead and someone less psychotic would take over and the German Empire would fall apart, a la the USSR. History has a funny way of staying the same even in what-if? scenarios. \_ Sometimes one wonders which would have been an easier bad guy: USSR or the Axis states... |
2004/1/17-19 [Uncategorized] UID:11815 Activity:nil |
1/16 Has anyone else been prompted to read the warped-looking word when trying to send messages from yahoo? \_ No, only when signing up for an account. \_ Once, but only once. \_ I did a few days ago for a few times, but not anymore. |
2004/1/17 [Recreation/Activities, Recreation/Dating] UID:11816 Activity:nil |
1/16 "FIFA president calls for sexier women's uniforms" http://sports.yahoo.com/sow How much more politically incorrect can one get? As much as I love to see the change he proposes, I don't think it's the right thing to do. If I want to see nice thighs, I go watch women's vollyball. If I want to see even more, I go watch women's beach vollyball. \_ What you people seem to like to forget is that professional sports exist to sell products. It's not about athleticism, it's not about providing some positive example to get kids into sports, it's about MAKING MONEY. That's it. This isn't some kids' soccer league. If you guys want to get pissed about something, get pissed that public monies go to support stadiums for these assholes, not about the details of how they run their business. \_ Why is it ok that those sports have women bouncing and jouncing around? How much more politically incorrect can you get? Either the women in all these sports should run around half naked and bouncing or they should wear professional non-skimpy sports quality uniforms. You're a hypocrite. \_ Yes I'm a hypocrite. As much as I love to watch those, they are not okay either. \_ Why does this quote amuse me so much: FIFA spokesman Andreas Herren said Friday that Blatter never mentioned the word ``hot pants.'' \_ Because you're childish and immature? |
2004/1/17-18 [Reference/Tax] UID:11817 Activity:nil |
1/16 http://www.house.gov/jec/tax/09-26-03.pdf See how taxes have changed over time. From this, it looks as though 2001 taxes effectively shifted some burden from the very rich to the sort-of-rich, leaving the poor untouched. \_ actually if you look at that report, the super rick more than doubled their share of income, while their tax rates only raised by 50 percent. Also that seems to be income tax alone. Does that count for such things as capital gains or property taxes? Stuff that has some pretty significant cuts over the years? \_ This chart does not include "payroll" tax, which is almost as large as income tax, and has regressivity. Nor any of the other taxes, which hit lower income people harder (percentage wise). \_ Sorry OP, but it looks like people on both ends of the spectrum \_ Sorry OP, but it looks like people both both ends of the spectrum think your chart is a load of crap. Maybe next time.... |
2004/1/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:11818 Activity:nil |
1/16 motd hozers (all worship the great 'motdedit' or die!): \_ Where the hell is motdedit? \_ /csua/bin/motdedit \_ /csua/bin/motdedit or /csua/bin/me apparently someone doesn't know about symlinks Boredcast Message from 'mehlhaff': Fri Jan 16 15:26:05 2004 frankly, if I waited for a lock with 'me' and when I'm done editing and vi still says the file changed before my write, its tough cookies time. I'm writing it out. .. Boredcast Message from 'ausman': Fri Jan 16 15:41:25 2004 i am the same way mehlhaff and i have gotten flamed for it Boredcast Message from 'mehlhaff': Fri Jan 16 15:42:18 2004 how can you get flamed for following an established convention for accessing the motd with an attempt to keep from colliding with others writes. the ones who need flames are 1) the idlehozers who lock the motd and go idle 2) the punks who edit the motd even when it is locked. Boredcast Message from 'mehlhaff': Fri Jan 16 15:43:49 2004 actually they dont need flames, they need beatings. Boredcast Message from 'jon': Fri Jan 16 15:44:14 2004 or selective editing of their dotfiles not that i'd ever actually advocate that \_ Unless mehlhaff has bulked up quite a bit since I last met him (in '92), I'd advise him to hire someone else to do the beatings. --erikred \_ who says you need to bulk up to administer beatings? A good set of stocks or other restraints make the job soo much easier. Applied of course, by the motd-convention-enforcement goon squad. \_ Sounds like someone's taken that "hire someone else" idea to the next level. --erikred \_ Sometimes I suspend my editor. Motdedit can't deal with that. So, I won't use motdedit. It was also frequently locked to no reason by others. I think a better system is one where users edit their own copies and then use a merge program. This is what I do and it works great, except for the fixable problem of it not dealing properly with conflicts (when I add a reply on the same line as someone else, it should just concatenate). \_ Is it really that hard to use an editor that detects when changes have been made since you started editing a document, copying your changes, exiting the document, pasting your changes back in, and saving the newly changed document? How lazy are you? \_ Not as lazy as the guy who won't even use motdedit, obviously. \_ Then there are people like me who was trying to be courteous by using motdedit and avoid stomping on other posts if the file changed while editing. Then without thinking I suspended my editor and left motdedit hung. I took a lot of flak for it (though no one contacted me until someone actually killed my process). It's just not worth the hassle so I don't use it anymore. It only works if everyone uses it. That, and it makes people like mehlhaff think it isn't necessary to be courteous if they use it. -emarkp \_ Wait...you're the one who suspended your editor for a sizable amount of time while you had an exclusive lock on a shared resource, and mehlhaff is the one being discourteous? -tom \_ You're an idiot. Thank you for playing. Play Again (y/N)?__ \_ Courtesy has everything to do with intent. My holding the lock was unintentional. Had it been pointed out to me directly I would have rectified the problem immediately. Once I did notice, I fixed the problem. Had I been intentionally holding the lock, that would have been discourteous. To make sure I don't do that again in the future, I no longer use motdedit, and I don't overwrite others' comments. -emarkp \_ No, it's actually easier (emacs C-x C-v). But there is also a loss of anonymity there. Anyway laziness is a virtue. \_ a loss of anonymity where? \_ If everyone used me, it's possible to track posts by who has the file open. Especially if they sit with it open for a long time composing. \_ How do you do this in vi? \_ In VIM at least, you will get a warning if you try to save and the file has been changed. My typical use is to yank my comment if I get a warning, then reload the file, then repaste my comment. \_ So after you wait 5 minutes for a lock, then have someone change the file out from under you, you save your edits and get in line again for another lock? No thank you. \_ Dummy, it's an open file. There's no requirement that you wait for a lock. And no one "saved their edits under yours". Repeat after me: "world writable file". \_ There is no requirement that I not ovewrite your changes either. You are a lazy hozer and deserve to be overwritten. \_ Um, no I don't a first or second time. I don't use motdedit, hence I start editing, and if the file changes I simply do a manual merge. -emarkp \_ This is a big problem with motdedit. There's a solution, it hasn't been implemented yet, however. Give it time. \_ well when it is implemented, let us know and we'll have something to talk about. in the meantime you motdedit fascists can go stick your head in a pig. motdedit is just a way for people with no system fu to figure out who is editing the motd. the locking mechanism is an unnecessary joke. \_ just curious: how does motdedit not handle suspending? \_ motdedit has a process that times out the lock after 10 minutes. However, if the editor is suspended, motdedit is suspended(SIGSTP), and the perl script no longer counts off 10 minutes. \_ can motdedit be written to catch SIGSTP? So that it might handle it or kill itself off even, if necessary. |
2004/1/17-19 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/Graphics] UID:11819 Activity:nil |
1/16 Don't know if this has made the rounds yet: http://www.baekdu.org/myblog/000030.html "Sand Animation" It's a video of drawing images using sand over a lit surface. Sorry, .wmv only. -bz \_ any non-streaming file for us firewalled/slow link folks? \_ /csua/tmp/sandAnimation.wmv \_ Hadn't seen them before -- Thanks for the link. Though I found I prefered the sand animation films on the artists site: http://www.cakostudio.hu/images/filmography_sand.html \_ that is some lame ass sh*t \_ troll? (I thought it very impressive) \_ Simply idiotic. Don't grant the name of thought to what can be attributed to mere stupidity. \_ Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I liked it too. |
2004/1/17-19 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:11820 Activity:nil |
1/17 I had a pipe leak in my apartment, and the lower floor was completely soaked. I tried to force dry it, but it still smells like saltmarsh in my livingroom. Is there anything I can do to get the stench out aside from airing it out or burning my unit to the ground? TIA. \_ It's stories like these that make me glad that I no longer live in Berkeley. \_ Not living in Berkeley. Stuff sometimes just happens, you know? \_ I have no useful advice, but this reminds me of a funny story. someone I know had the pressure go up in the sewar pipes enough to force all the shit from his apartment building up into his bathroom, all over the floor. there were turds in the bathtub and all around. He busted a hole in the floor with a tire iron and an axe, and the shit went down into the landlord's office in the basement. he'd already tried getting the landlord to respond and get a plumber for quite a while, but in true slumlord fashion, there was no response and all he had was a pager number. true story. \_ There must be detergents that should be able to get it clean... cuz there are like some chemicals that can get the stench of housepet urine out of carpets.... there's probably still going to be residual damage regardless. \_ The same thing happened to my basement a couple weeks ago. If your lower floor has wall-to-wall carpeting, the carpet & pad (and any other soaked fabric material) should be thrown away. \_ You need to contact your landlord and get them to replace the carpet and pads. There's a mold hazard there and you tell him if he doesn't take care of it you're going to file complaints with the city and with his insurance carrier. \_ You can disinfect it by peeing on the floor. \_ rm? is that you, being a punk again? \_ How/Why does urine stink up a room for so long? \_ How do you know - have you tried? \_ When I was thinking about buying a stinky cat-urined house, I found info on some product that you could use to get the stench out. It might work with human stenches, too. Don't remember what it was called, but I'm sure you can google for it. |