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2004/1/10-11 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:11735 Activity:nil
1/9     Got to look out for those evil flight simulator players
        http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/34776.html
        \_ This is all Bush's fault.  I think Cheney was directly involved
           in this one.
        \_ That's not a flight sim player; THIS is a flight sim player:
           http://perso.netpratique.fr/ssimo/Tigrou_video/video.zip
           Okay, he's actually a military flight school pilot PLAYING
           a flight sim.  But damn, he's good.
           \_ Excellent!
              \_ Is Lock On good yet?  I heard it had lots of release bugs.
2004/1/10-15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:11736 Activity:low
1/9     Work for http://HOTorNOT.com, cuz we don't suck. Well, actually, we probably
        do, but at least we know it. see /csua/pub/jobs/HOTorNOT
        \_ What is the geographic location of this job? The post and the
           website give no indication.
           \_ Positions available at junior high schools around the country.
        \_ do you really think that "find the hidden message" crap says
           anything about your applicants?
           \_ we've already seen that one anyway. come up with something new.
           \_ Downtown Berkeley.
           \_ Yes, for one thing, it says they have read the posting.  It
              means that they cared enough about applying to figure out the
              (easy) trick.  This is an easy and effective way to keep from
              getting a bunch of resumes from "shotguners".  And if it turns
              off hate-filled, judgemental h0zers such as yourself, that is
              probably a big plus too. -phuqm
        \_ fire whoever came up with the idea for being uncreative. i'm pretty
           sure someone else did that a few months ago, same word as well.
           \_ I totally don't get it. Does that mean I couldn't work
              there? Would I want to work for a place that does this?
              \_ it's silly, and not original at all. just look at the first
                 letters of each paragraph.
        \_ Real nice of y'all to berate those who might be doing some Sodans
           a favor by posting a job listing. God forbid you're ever unemployed.
        \_ d00d, it's hotornot - if you're going to find a hidden word in
           the job posting for any place you work for that you could still
           tell yermom honestly about, shouldn't this be it?
        \_ Rosebud!
          \_ bingo!!
2004/1/10-14 [Uncategorized] UID:11737 Activity:nil
1/9     For SSL certs, what's the least expensive per/year Certificate
        Authority that is default "trusted" by all the major browsers.
        \_ Thawte
           \_ #f.  Thawte is now owned by the Verisign cabal and charges
              ridiculous prices.  http://Freessl.com.
                \_ freessl's wildcard cert is still expensive.
                   \_ Who sells cheap wildcard certs these days?
                        \_ Yes, that is my question. -op
              \_ It's more reliable than the lower tier ones, though.
                \_ Thanks, freessl looks good. Have you used them?
2004/1/10-11 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:11738 Activity:nil
1/9     Finished Medal of Honor Rising Sun. Graphics is definitely better than
        the first one. However, the storyline sucked. They should have made
        the last round relating to atomic bomb (bombadier, gunner on B-29,
        etc). Also it's so stupid that they had to kill every single Asian
        guy, even the good ones working for U.S. (Tanaka). It's like that
        movie Anti-Trust and other Hollywood movies-- you must kill all Asian
        men, good or bad.
        \_ Feeling a bit emasculated as an asian male, are you?  This reminds
           me of the time I was walking behind these two asian dudes right
           after brandon lee killed himself and they were talking in a very
           serious way how his death and bruce's death only goes to prove
           there is a whitey conspiracy to demasculinise the asian male.
           I love you guys.  BTW, are you a Hoyt Sze fan?  Maybe his younger
           cousin or something?
                \_ After he killed himself?  He was accidentally shot during
                   the making of the Crow.
                \_ definitely. The white culture is all about domination of
                   the weaker race, subduing their power and dignity and
                   taking away all the other women. Look at all the
                   Westernized colonies and Asia in general. They're mostly
                   puppet states and are really owned and influenced and in
                   some cases controlled by Westerners. The Japanese should
                   have won and taken Asia back. Oh, and N Korea rewls, they
                   have a lot of guts to stand up against the Western
                   bullies-- they will not be the last one to do so.
                   \_ It's times like this when it's a little tricky to sort
                      the trolls from the psycho idiots.
2004/1/10-11 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11739 Activity:nil
1/9     An Iraqi Family's tragedy:
        http://csua.org/u/5id
        \_ Even the guy posting the letters admits they may not be truthful
           and that there are numerous flaws in the story and you'll not find
           anyone more sympathetic than this guy.  He says there's an
           investigation going on and we should wait before going off any
           further.  I agree.
           \_ Hey, I didn't say you think should think anything else.  But
              its an interesting story, especially since Healing Iraq is the
              most vocally pro-US Iraqi blog.  Let's see where it goes.  --op
2004/1/10-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, ERROR, uid:11740, category id '31298#3.875' has no name! , ] UID:11740 Activity:nil
1/9     Stupid chick. If you're bored and want to put her in her place, write
        to Beverley_Sweeney@birdville.k12.tx.us.
        http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/columnists/dave_lieber/7643262.html
        \_ That's what you get for using Windows... Thankfully they
           didn't install Linux/BSD on their machines and have someone
           discover wall....
           \- i guess you young'un dont know about the time jordan hubbard
              "rwalled the whole internet" from evans hall ... including
              either the head of DARPA or the IG, something like that. --psb
              \- googling for jkh and rwall ... --psb
      http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/misc/tcp_ip/8702.mm.www/0310.html
        \_ May I ask how you even heard about this in the first place? Do
           you live in Dallas?
           \_ It was on slashdot yesterday.  Anyway, it was the principal's
              decision to suspend; he should take a good part of the blame
              too. - !op
              \_ It was on fark; I don't recall seeing it on slashdot, but
                 who knows. Anyway, she, not the principal, is supposed to be
                 the computer teacher, and I'd assume she's the one that
                 did most of the convincing that it wasn't harmless, but was
                 (here I would wiggle my fingers and say ooooh) "hacking." -op
              \- The CSUA ought to send a letter about this. --psb
                 \_ Like what? "We, the members of CSUA, an official
                    and prominent organization of Berkeley's CompSci/EECS
                    dept. think you are an idiot. Have a nice day"
                    \- what do you suggest the CSUA do to justify itself?
                       anything beyond running a wall apppliance and
                       various junk-food related activities? if you dont
                       think there is more to say than "you are an idiot"
                       well i suppose i'll be charitable and not recyles
                       those words and just suggest maybe you should not be
                       the one to write the letter. --psb
                       \_ You gotta be kidding me, right? I mean, if you want
                          the CSUA to do something worthwhile then I can
                          think of ten things better than writing a letter
                          to a middle-aged elementary schoolteacher about
                          the nuances of hacking. I mean, if you really have
                          that much time on your hands to bother the poor
                          woman why don't you do something like go teach
                          a class on Perl open to all? Wouldn't that be
                          much more fucking constructive than spamming
                          an obviously close-minded and pea-brained
                          bible-belter? And yes, I have donated my
                          time to teaching DeCal classes in the recent past.
                          How does contributing to the slashdot flamefest she's
                          already getting really change anything? Get a clue.
                          -williamc
                          \_ Because we don't have to send the typical idiotic
                             slashdot spam crap.  Making a small change in the
                             social fabric for the better is way more important
                             than teaching some friday Perl classes.
                \_ That's not a bad idea actually.
                   \_ You write it Partha and I will sign it.
2004/1/10 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:11741 Activity:nil
1/9     Examining Berkeley's liberal legacy
        http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/09/elec04.berkeley/index.html
        \_ Go CNN! In other news, Sun still rising in the East tomorrow!
                \_ cool it's about time. Nippon ichiban! BONZAI!!!!
2004/1/10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:11742 Activity:nil
1/9     IMF: US budget policy will destabilize and threaten the world's
        economy.
        http://csua.org/u/5i5
        \_ Please explain how, as more nations become industrialized,
           thus enter the global economy, that the U.S. economy GAINS
           further influence? The U.S. could have relegated everyone
           else to eternal squalor after WWII, and NOW its affects
           are more powerful?!
           \_ yeah, there weren't any other superpowers after WWII.
           \_ Trade makes countries interdependent.   Duh.
        \_ Don't you America haters ever give up?
           \_ If I hated America, I'd leave.  As it happens, I love America,
              I just hate the people who are trying to destroy it (the Bush
              administration and their dittohead followers.)
              \_ They said the same thing about Reagan oh young one
                 \_ And the fallout from reagan's dismantling of the new deal
                    has been ramping up ever since..
                    \_ Dismantle? Reagan didn't dismantle anything. He
                       created this elaborate Star Wars system where
                       satellites shoot other satellites in space with
                       giant "lasers" and they get blown to smithereens.
                       Don't you watch TV?
        \_ Buffett said this months ago:
           http://www.pbs.org/wsw/news/fortunearticle_20031026_03.html
                \_ Understand that these guys don't say anything
                   without the intent of making a profit
                   \_ I sense in you an entertaining rant waiting to burst
                      forth onto the motd.  Come on, let's hear it.
2004/1/10-11 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:11744 Activity:nil
1/9     http://www.drudgereport.com/flash9.htm proves beyond a doubt that
        Bush Knew!
        \_ they also draw up plans for invading North Korea, France,
        Germany, etc. they do this all the time..
           \_ good comeback.
2004/1/10-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:11745 Activity:nil
1/9     I have a start script that I source from rc.  It runs perfectly fine
        if run as just a shell script but fails during reboot.  What could be
        the problem?
        \_ probably different environment variables, like PATH.
           \_ What could possibly be wrong with
                foo=`/bin/date +\%s`  ?
              \_ and what makes you so sure it's that...
                 \_ Well, I have ConsoleMessage both before and after it....
                    \_ what is that supposed to mean...
        \_ how about you just post the script?
2004/1/10-11 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11746 Activity:nil
1/9     WMD Found!
        http://csua.org/u/5ij
        \_ "Initial tests show could have..."  As I recall they said the same
           thing about those "chemical weapons vans."
        \_ "The Danish army said they had been buried for at least 10 years."
           I know, I know, why do I hate America?
        \_ 36 motar shells is a far cry from mutiple tons of stockpiles that
           could be launched in 45 minutes.
           \_ "Where the debate is, is why haven't we found huge stockpiles
              and why haven't we found large caches of these weapons? Let's
              let the Iraqi Survey Group complete its work." -Colin Powell
              \_ Yes, exactly.  36 mortar shells buried for 10 years doesn't
                 comprise a "huge stockpile" or a "large cache".  You need
                 ALOT more than that to corroborate allegations of an active
                 WMD program.
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