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| 2003/12/15 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Compilers] UID:11455 Activity:low |
12/14 Sorry about this, but about alternative to the Dragon Book in the
subject of Compiler. What is the name of the author for that
Programming Language book again?
\_ the Tiger Book by appel- a much better read.
\_ Michael Scott. Here's the Amazon link if you want to read
some reviews: http://tinyurl.com/z9rx
\_ thanks
some reviews. |
| 2003/12/15 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11456 Activity:kinda low |
12/14 We wage war under the ground of WMD. What happened if Iraq really
didn't have WMD? Under what ground we should try Saddam? defending
his homeland?
\_ "we" aren't, the Iraqis are.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/15/politics/15PRIS.html
\_ I think we can ask the relatives of the 300K dead in mass graves
\_ guess what, not all of the mass grave were produced in reigm
of Saddam. Some of these mass grave were dated back to the
fall of Ottoman Empire.
\_ oh well that makes it ok then. might as well forget about
the attempted invasions of iran and kuwait also, and let this
swell fellow go.
\_ Didn't we support the invasion of Iran?
\_ The coldwar was about the lesser of two evils.
\_ Bwahahahahahahahaha! I damn near peed myself
laughing at this. Nice.
\_ 100+ million killed
20TH CENTURY DEMOCIDE
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
Long live MARX!!!
\_ If you study these figures, you realize that
this guy comes up with some truly absurd
numbers. He claims that the US killed 6000
civilians during our entire 11 year war in
Vietnam, including all civilians killed by
bombings. This is just not believable. He
plays all sorts of other tricks with numbers
too, like claiming that all the Russians and
Ukranians who died of starvation during WWII
are the responsibility of Stalin.
\_ Most of Stalin's purges occurred before
WWII. He gives a detailed explanation
of the numbers in Vietnam.
\_ Is it really about the cold war? If so, how
come Iraq's tanks were all Soviet? I think
it's more about US supporting the despotic
Shah to control oil in Iran, only to see him
overthrown by mullahs, so US use Saddam and
his chemical weapons against Iran.
\_ Iran has been a monarchy for 2000 years; the
Shah was the royal successor. His deposal,
thanks in a large part to Carter and Congr.
Dems was the inaguaration of militant Islam.
Neither NATO nor the Warsaw Pack wanted a
clear victor Iran-Iraq war; better to let the
Muslim fanatics kill themselves off. In
restrospect the only mistake was that
they didn't kill enough of eachother.
\_ The fact remains. Iraq invaded Iran,
(just like Iraq invaded Kuwait) not
the other way around, and US
supported Iraq, helping Saddam in
multiple ways, including chemical
weapons.
\_ The justification of tacit Western
support was militant Islam. Based
on what has transpired since it
was completely justified. The
US did not give Iraq chemical
weapons, although transfers of
chemical and biological agents
were made from US universities.
Furthermore, the US did not
provide military hardware to
Iraq. Even today Iraqs military
orignates from France, Russia,
China, etc... there is no US
hardware whatsoever. Iran
also used chemical weapons, BTW.
\_ Besides assistance with chemical
weapons, US provided military
intelligence, logistics, food
credits (which Saddam easily turned
into money to buy weapons), and
encouraged allies to sell
weapons to Iraq. Iraq is the
one who started using chemical
weapons. US itself also left
all options open if attacked by
WMD, so Iran's response is
consistent with US policy.
US also impose sanctions (all
forms) against Iran during the
Iran-Iraq war, which is started
by Saddam, leading to 1 million
dead. US also sold Iraq 1
billion $US worth of trucks,
and changed the description on
the export licenses from
'vehicles designed for military
use' to 'commercial utility
cargo trucks'. US also allowed
Indonesia to sell attack
helicopters to Iraq (made by
US of course), cluster bombs
from South Africa and howitzers
from Austria.
\_ And what is your point?
This is common knowledge..
I think we should have let
them overrun the Iranian
mullahs.
\_ We tried, but failed,
and then it blew up in
our face.
\_ Hindsight is 20/20, there
was insufficient political
capital to do much else.
In the end the Soviets
were defeated.
\_ Like I said, it has
very little to do with
the Soviets. It's
about our control of
oil in the region.
That's why we are
still there long after
the demise of the SU.
\_ Oh my god you
think its about
oil NO WAY not
not in a million
years. LOL it
doesn't take a
genius to realize
we would have
extricated ourselves
long ago if not for
the oil. Guess what,
every country on the
face of the earth
wants to use oil,
including China,
Russia and France.
come Iraq's tanks were all Soviet?
\_ Look, I am about as anti-war as they come, and even I can see that
this is a pathetic attempt at a troll. I think we should just hand
him over to the Kurds and them do what they will. |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Recreation/Shopping] UID:11458 Activity:nil |
12/14 reboot the Macy's building.
http://www.cs.usm.maine.edu/~mccann/macys/macy2.jpg
\_ General Merchandising Fault |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Computer/HW, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11459 Activity:low |
12/15 U.K. Sodans can get a free PC that comes with Adware until the
sponsoring company goes bankrupt. In other news, 1999 called. They
want their business plan back. http://tinyurl.com/zc3a
\_ sounds like you're stealing your wit from fark. |
| 2003/12/15 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:11460 Activity:high |
12/15 So I figure they'll time it this way: Saddam now to throw the early
Dem primaries into shambles, Osama Bin Forgotten around July just in
time to prep and edit capture footage for the Republican National
Convention, and then probably some WMDs in October to put the final
nail in the coffin. Anyone want to lay bets? Get them in soon, I'm
moving to Germany.
\_ America - love it or leave it. Glad you'll pick the latter
\_ Maybe I'll move to one of those industrialized countries with
single-payer health care and a murder rate that's not horrid.-!op
\_ Maybe we will. And maybe we'll finally wake up and make you
bloodsuckers leave instead.
\_ I bet you're one of those morons who parrots the phrase
"real americans" to refer to yourself and the rest of your
cross-burning sister-marrying illiterate family. You are the
sheep. And when the liberals leave no one will protect you
from us, your corporate masters. So go, liberals! I want
to sell fat and plastic to fuckwits like this guy without
having to settle lawsuits every five minutes. |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Reference/Military, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:11461 Activity:kinda low |
12/15 hey ilyas: http://www.chivalrybookshelf.com/titles/ringeck/ringeck.htm (tobler interprets the Ringeck Verses) \_ right. just in case you just finished Quicksilver and felt it wasn't nerdy enough. \_ this book is not supposed to be fiction. It's a system of movements for the art of applied geometry. \_ Agrippa is better for that. \_ Agrippa wasn't thinking of a longsword, he was thinking of rapier. \_ What about Silver? \_ Well, he had a bit of a bias vs. scherma. \_ http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~wew/fencing/agrippa/63.jpg ? \_ Agrippa was a mathematician. Basically he came up with a system of movements that let the scholar form the hypotenuse with his arm and blade to the triangle created by the opponents arm, blade, angle and point. Alot of the spanish style, the so called "magic circle" is all appications of geometry of chords tangents, etc, since they didn't have the silly limitations of strip fencing. - pst \_ For the record I don't like Stephenson. I find most of his books (after Snowcrash) long and boring. Also the above poster is right, this isn't fiction, it's a martial art manual. -- ilyas books (after Snowcrash) long and boring. -- ilyas \_ Neat! Thanks, motd Santa! -- ilyas \_ ya might also wanna ask him for a gorget. Preferably steel I took a schlager in the throat the other week and even thru \_ Neat! Thanks, motd Santa! -- ilyas a steel one it still hurt and stunned. - pst \_ Motd santa pls bring me: http://www.darkwoodarmory.com/closed.htm \_ If you like that, tell us about this: http://img.kb.dk/ha/manus/th290/kamp0205.jpg and http://img.kb.dk/ha/manus/th290/kamp0165.jpg |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:11462 Activity:very high |
12/15 With Saddam in custody now the '04 election is done. Stick a fork in
it and vote for Green so we can end the "1 party, 2 faces" nightmare.
What is this? _/
\_ In answer to "what is this?", "1 party, 2 faces" is what our
political system has become. Both parties are the same. They
have the same agenda, offer the same solutions, they 'steal'
each other's platforms not because they believe in them but because
the polls say it's a good idea to do so. This is a one party
nation that uses 2 names for the same party. We need a second
party in this country for those of us tired of business as usual.
\_ Yeah voting for Ralph Nader surely helped Al Gore, Jr. win.
\_ Why would I want the other side of the one party to win? Gore
and Bush might as well be twins. Why is this so hard to
understand?
\_ Watch the polls dip as we lose another 500 soldiers between now
and the election.
\_ Nah, the economy could only add an anemic 150,000 jobs last quarter,
in spite of the biggest productivity gains in twenty years. Expect
things to cool off a bit next year, leading to more job losses
and further wage stagnation. This economy is great for the stock
market, but not so good for Joe Sixpack.
\_ Hence the phrase, jobless recovery.
\_ Unlike you I am Joe6 and work with a ton of other union guys
and we're doing just fine, thanks. Get out of your ivory tower.
\_ Yeah, support for Bush is up a whole 3%!!!!
http://csua.org/u/5a2 |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Reference/History, Reference/History/WW2] UID:11463 Activity:nil |
12/15 I don't understand the Trojan war. After the Greeks fought for 10
years to rescue the pretty Helen of Troy, wouldn't she have already
turned into a 30 year old hag making the Trojan Horse victory in vain?
\_ Homeric allegory is lost on some people.
\_ C'mon, it's principle of the thing. Think of it like M$ stealing
your code and you finally wrangling a paltry settlement out of
them a decade later....
\_ They were fighting for Agamemnon's honor as the king of the Greeks.
Also, the looting and taking of all the other women.
\_ you're forgetting about the Trojans' WMD.
\_ women of mass destruction?
\- heh. --psb
\_ if yer trojan springs a leak
\_ I don't understand what's the big deal about the Iliad. It bored
me to tears.
\- do you think this says more about you or the iliad?
Xalepa ta kala.
For discussion on the original question:
~psb/MOTD/Iliad.commentarii --psb
\_ Did you write this while in a cafe?
\- yes. why? were you watching me? --psb
\_ Did you mean: Xalapa ta kala --obGoogle
\_ There is no one way to transliterate Greek into English
characters. "Chalepa ta kala" seems the most common.
\_ I like simple books like Old Man and Sea or Of Mice and
Men. Being very old, I can see why Iliad is important, but
it is very boring and repetitive, and the whole plot line
could be summed up in half a page. Granted, it's like a
poem, but a few hundred pages of repetitions? Ugh!
\_ If you think the Iliad is boring you should try a more modern
adaptation: Ulysses. Heh. Let us know what you think.
\_ I heard that's a very boring book too. I remember Economist
saying that some think the author is just a con-artist with
a very large vocabulary.
\_ I read the Economist for all my ancient poetry and book
reviews. Good plan. I also make all my best meals from
their recipe section.
\_ A cauliflower is a cauliflower no matter how you cook
it.
\_ for u then: http://troymovie.warnerbros.com/index_noflash.html
\_ well I think it's gonna be a lame movie. They're frigging
fighting for a 30 year old hag. They could've spent 10
years doing something more constructive.
\_ funny thing for a 30 year old virgin to be saying...
\_ Cool. I would like to see the movie since I like "historical"
movies. But that doesn't change my opinion of Iliad, whose
plot is just a small subplot of the whole Troy endeavor. |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11464 Activity:nil |
12/15 DNA Testing used to confirm Saddam's Identity:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994481 |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11465 Activity:insanely high 66%like:12871 |
12/15 liberal media:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,561468,00.html
\_ p.s. - the "liberal" thing was intended ironically. oh well. -op
\_ excellent troll. 2 cookies for you.
\_ Time is a piece of crap, but that article doesn't appear
biased one way or the other. -tom
\_ "We can measure the meaning of his capture by the measures we
have taken -- old alliances and long traditions discarded to
go to war to take him out and, in the name of democracy, a war
that was opposed by vast majorities in most democracies on earth."
Now, is this really true? Vast majorities opposed the war?
Or is it vocal minorities?
\_ Polls in many european countries rode anywhere from 70-90%
against US actions. How 'bout this one: "by far the vast
majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum"
--scotsman
\_ You're deeply confused about what democracy is all about.
Just because other democratic countries may disagree with
our democratic country does not lead to the conclusion
that our actions were wrong. It only follows that the
people in those countries have a different culture and
belief system from our country. There is nothing that
says all democracies have to agree with each other. It
a simply a form of government, not a rating of good vs.
evil or which team you belong to in the world. If 100%
of people in other 100% of other democratic countries were
opposed to our country's actions that carries no more
\_ not biased? c'mon. 3rd paragraph? Nothing but agrandizing
weight, value or meaning than if 100% of the people of
100% of totalitarian states disagree with our actions.
\_ Even if this is true (how many countries?)... There are
other democracies besides those in europe. Was the vast
majority opposed to the war in some sort of non-changing
sense? Do the polls show consistent 70-90% opposition,
and still do?
\_ You can look for the answers yourself. This is another
thing that gets me about the o'reilly effect. They
bring up questions like this that are relatively
news-magazine-murdered-cheerleader special reports. please.
answerable if you have the time, but people who don't
have the time simply base their outrage on them..
\_ Well, the thing is ... if you don't know the answers
to these questions you can't really say Time isn't
full of shit. Which is the point.
\_ The answer is that the vast majority of countries
opposed the US war and still do. You are just too
lazy to do the research yourself.
\_ Look, in France, the very bastion of
anti-(american unilateralism/english speaking
hegemony), only 59% oppose the war. Where
are the vast majorities in _most_ democracies
of the world? Show me.
Time is full of shit.
\_ http://csua.org/u/59w
http://csua.org/u/59y
\_ Uh... the best this says is that
majorities (far from vast) in _several_
european countries (far from most
democracies in the world) opposed the
war at one point. But poetic hyperbole
is ok, because it's Time, right?
\_ Give it up. You are just making
yourself look bad. They polled 45
countries and a majority opposed the
war in 2/3 of them.
\_ Sure. Now let's compare what the
facts say and what Time says.
Facts: Simple majorities in 2/3rd
of 45 nations in the world opposed
the war in iraq at one point in
time.
Time: Vast majorities in most
democracies of the world oppose
the war in iraq.
Time is full of shit.
\_ 59%? Show me.
_/
http://www.iraqcrisisbulletin.com/archives/041603/html/french_doubts_over_war_opposit.html
This is from april.
\_ Honestly, come on now. It's common knowledge that
the war was opposed by everyone except a couple of
eastern europeans desperate to suck up to the USA.
As if anyone in Poland gives a shit about Iraq.
\_ not biased? c'mon. 3rd paragraph? Nothing but aggrandizing
and romanticizing sensationalist language. the thing of
news-magazine-murdered-cheerleader special reports. please.
\_ What in that paragraph do you think was aggrandizing
\_ besides the whole thing? how about:
"It was an antidote to the contempt expressed by Arab
and European commentators who poked the American
tiger: See, you can't even catch Saddam."
\_ One man's "bias" is another's "perspective." Go away,
dittohead.
\_ I like Time. I read all the major newspapers as well.
Each source has its own problems.
\_ I don't like any media, yet I read them all the time. Each
source has its own bits of useful information. |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:11466 Activity:nil |
12/15 My laptop doesn't have the "windows" key and I run WinXP. How can I
lock the desktop quickly since I can't do WINKEY-L ?
\_ Winkey = Ctrl-Esc
\_ Not exactly. You can't chord with ctrl-esc.
\_ Ctl-Alt-Del, enter.
\_ this is what I was gonna suggest. the real question is how
can you quickly clear the desktop (Winkey-D) or invoke the
run dialog (Winkey-R) ??
\_ For Windows-D: There should be a Show Desktop icon in the
Quick Launch bar. Drag a shortcut to your Start Menu.
Bind shortcut to Ctrl-Alt-whatever.
For Windows-R: If you can find an .exe or file that
opens the Run dialog, then repeat as above. Otherwise,
you're stuck with Ctrl-Escape -> Press 'R'.
\_ OH MY GOD!! I NEVER KNEW THESE KEYS EXISTED!!!!
THANK YOU!!
\_ motd, psycho windows user. psycho windows user, motd.
glad to introduce you. (heartofore pwu)
aka, p-triple-u
\_ hey, man! i knew that, and i don't even
like windows! I am a psycho, however.
\_ pu^3, not to be confused with (pu)^3
\_ Use RemapKey to map something else (e.g. right-alt) to the Windows
key. http://www.dynawell.com/support/Reskit/win2k.asp
\_ You do know that this 2K tool won't work for XP, right?
\_ Uh, why wouldn't it? The author's web page says it works for
Windows NT 4, Windows 2000, and XP. |
| 2003/12/15 [Politics/Domestic] UID:29717 Activity:nil |
12/15 Are foreign policy isolationists conservative or liberal? |
| 2003/12/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:29718 Activity:nil |
12/15 Amit in the doghouse:
http://www.pantsfactory.org/?action=comments&linkid=884 |
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