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2003/12/7 [Finance/Investment, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11343 Activity:nil 50%like:29695
12/6    Can a modern hard disk operate reliably in a garage with the temperature
        change that happens when you open the garage door?  Like 50 -> 30 deg F.
        \_ shouldn't be a problem, i presumed.  The internal temperature of
           harddrive shouldn't change that drastically.
2003/12/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic] UID:11344 Activity:nil
12/7    Most people probably already know this, but just in case for those
        who are not aware of it..
        http://www.sco.com/copyright
        \_ Do you know how many of the senators and representatives now
           in the presidential race stood up against the DMCA or the
           copyright extension act? none. not kucinich, not kerry,
           not liebermann, not gebhart.  no one from either party stood
           up against this.  the only way we're going to beat these
           evil cocksuckers is by becoming as effective a lobby as the
           media moguls.  i'll bet a million nerds who make about 100k/year
           can beat a dozen or so media moguls in a out and out brawl
           to buy congressmen.
           \_ and i'll bet 5 million nerds who make 100k/year won't be
              as successful buying congressman than a few corporations
              that rake in billions every year.
        \_ Interesting. But I don't see any logical basis for his assertion
           the GPL itself is unconstitutional/illegal.
           \_ I didn't think so neither.  But it's just my personal opinion.
              An somewhat related issue: copyright suppose to be a temperary
              protection.  Yet, the current copyright last just couple years
              short of life expentacy of Average Americans, thus, for pratical
              purposes, permanent.  In this regard, our current copyright law
              can be argued as unconsitutional itself. :p
              \_ I agree with that. It's clear congress was acting in the
                 interest of Disney rather than the public with that extension
                 although I'm not sure it's unconstitutional. But what I meant
                 was, the guy says GPL is unconstitutional but doesn't directly
                 say why. He just blathers about whether there should be copy-
                 rights, but GPL uses copyrights.
                 \_ lessig argues on his blog that the copyright extension
                    could possibly be considered unconstitutional because
                    it is not in the best interests of promoting the "progress
                    of science and the useful arts," as mandated by the
                    constitution.
                    http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/001611.shtml#001611
                    of course, i'm not an expert on the constition, or
                    constitutional law, but Lessig sure is.
                    \_ An important part of his argument regarded retroactive
                       extensions-- the Constitution explicitly mentions
                       'limited times' for copyright, but by extending the
                       term for 20 years every 20 years, Congress is creating
                       a regime of perpetual copyright.
           \- i tried to get through this but it was so stupid i
              couldnt do it. it's an interesting question where did
              the letter come from, is this to change the topic etc. --psb
              \_ it's trying to gather up substance behind what it's saying
                 by relying on eldred. but eldred wasn't even a software case.
2003/12/7-8 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11345 Activity:nil
12/7    Best.  Iraq War Quote.  Ever.
        "With a heavy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for
        projects, I think we can convince these people that we are here to
        help them," Colonel Sassaman said.
        http://csua.org/u/568
      \_ You obviously don't understand the Arab mind.
         \_ You obviously have no sense of irony.
         \_ Oh then tell me please, Mr. Authority on Everything, how it is
            that we need to destroy the village in order to save it?
            \_ Actually, I was quoting the Second. Best. Iraq Quote. Ever.
               "You have to understand the Arab mind," Capt. Todd Brown, a
               company commander with the Fourth Infantry Division, said
               as he stood outside the gates of Abu Hishma. "The only
               thing they understand is force-- force, pride and saving
               face."
      \_ The villager photos are being taken with a digital camera, a
         Sony one it looks like.
      \_ "Kill them.  Kill them ALL!"  Cue Dark Empire music.
          \_ laissez Dieu assortir les morts
2003/12/7 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:11346 Activity:high 60%like:11380
12/7    Bush regime pre-emptively kills 9 future terrorists:
        http://csua.org/u/567
        \_ Yeah, he knew they were little kids while sleeping in the White
           house, mentally took control of the A-10s, mentally imagined the
           Mavericks taking them out. Oh pluz! Why don't you say the Clinton
           regime took out two Chinese "spies" in the Serbian campaign while
           you are at it?!
           \_ What happened to taking responsibility for your actions?
              I thought that was a Conservative virtue. I guess not a Neocon
              one.
              \_ Yeah but you think we shouldn't even be in Afghanistan.
2003/12/7-8 [Computer/SW/P2P] UID:11352 Activity:nil
12/7    Recommendations for a good file-sharing client? I'm mainly
        interested in shamelessly subverting copyright law (ie, downloading
        music MP3's). Kazaa seems to be sucking as of late.
        \_ What's your login, I ll email you what I use.
           \_ phillip@csua
        \_ If you're looking for mainstream, there are few good bittorrent
           sites.
           \_Really?  From my experience bittorrent sucked...all you can
             find is phish and it took all day to download.  Lemme know if
             I'm missing something. The program is cool. -scottyg
             \_ i will now have to listen to anthrax at top volume
                for an hour to get that horrible audio image out of my
                mind.
             \_ Bittorrent is really good for "0-day" stuff and new TV/movies.
                It's hard to find good .torrent files though.  It's not a good
                general-purpose P2P; it's good for spreading a few files really
                fast.
        \_ I use emule and winmx. winmx for music, emule for everything else.
        \_ dc++
           \_ I second that, especially Scandinavian hubs.
        \_ soulseek is good (http://www.slsknet.org
2003/12/7 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/Abortion] UID:29694 Activity:high
12/6    More fine Republican Family Values:
        http://www.counterpunch.org/mccarthy08252003.html
        \_ Free MUMIA!
           \_ yeah.. i want to free a cop-killer.
        \_ Dang republicans. Thank goodness for the fine upstanding
           Democrats, like Ted Kennedy.
2003/12/7 [Uncategorized] UID:29695 Activity:nil 50%like:11343
12/6    What rate of air temperature change can a modern hard disk
        operate reliably in temperature ranging from 50 to 30 degrees F?
2003/12/7 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:29696 Activity:high
12/6    Those dead children deserved it!
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1035432/posts
        \_ so are the children died in Nuclear and Fire bombing in
           WW2
           \_ Learn english, fucker
2003/12/7 [Uncategorized] UID:29697 Activity:nil
12/7    US Forces kill nine future terrorists:
        http://csua.org/u/565
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