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| 2003/12/4 [Uncategorized] UID:11306 Activity:high |
12/3 What is the most bad ass heavy metal band ever?
\_ Slayer
\_ Dude, Slayer are pussies. Try the first Napalm Death album.
\_ Napalm Death is better musically, but there's nothing
"bad ass" about them.
\_ dISEMBOWELMENT
\_ Iron Maiden. Yeah, there are bigger bad-asses, but everyone
followed in Maiden's footsteps.
\_ King Diamond. Of course, are you asking Heavy Metal proper or
does death metal count (e.g. Cannibal Corpse)? |
| 2003/12/4 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:11307 Activity:high |
12/3 My Second Marxist Indoctrination
http://FrontPageMagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11109
\_ Go back to Russia if you hate America so much.
\_ Go back to America if you hate Russia so much.
\_ "It's a war in which we will hunt down those who hate America
one person at a time." -george
\_ Go back to Africa if you don't want to be slave.
\_ wait this article says GWB was a military pilot. Is that really true?
\_ he was guarding the skies of texas during the vietnam war
\_ George Bush senior was a pilot (WWII IIRC). GWB 'served' in
the national guard during Vietnam. I say 'served' because his
service record was, for lack of a better word, spotty.
57,219d33 |
| 2003/12/4 [Science/Physics, Computer/Theory] UID:11308 Activity:nil |
12/3 Did anybody catch the Nova series on PBS a month or so ago on
String Theory? What do you think of it? Is this Witten guy really
that smart? He looks a bit phony.
\_ Dunno about string theory, but string practice: ~john/ringback.jpg
\_ Hot. Who's she?
\_ why the fuck do people keep talking about this goddamn show?
If you want to know about string theory, for some godforsaken
reason, read a fucking book.
\_ somepeople want a lay person's explanation to be done in
an hour. Books take much longer than that.
\_ How about http://staff.science.uva.nl/~rhd/string_theory.html
\_ I'll sum it up in two lines on the motd:
If a theory is unrelated to experiment, it's not
physics, it's philosophy.
for more information type "dict wank."
\_ Apparently you're a wank wannabe scientist who's never
read Kuhn. --williamc
\_ I heard there may be experiments with the potential
to falsify string theory coming after the CERN accelerator
comes online in 2006. -- ilyas
\_ right, and when they do, the theory will either
be falsified or just unverified. wake me when
they can calculate the mass on the electron from
frist principles or predict a new particle
acurately, or do *anything* predictive. <snore>
\_ We will eventually run out of things to predict.
A theory isn't good only if it predicts something new
(although that's really nice). A theory is good
if it doesn't contradict any data and is as small
as possible. Personally I know next to nothing
about string theory, and lack the background to
learn more. I don't know how well it fits, and
I don't know how small it is (or why there's so
\_ How about http://staff.science.uva.nl/~rhd/string_theory.html
much hype). -- ilyas
\_ wow, this is the first time i heard this show mentioned. i must
be out of it. anyway, go read Brian Greene's "The Elegant
Universe." it gets pretty dense as you get into it, but given
enough dedication, you can follow what he's writing.
\- the Witten/Schwartz/MGreen(not BGreene) is a pretty standard
serious work on string theory: http://csua.org/u/557
witten solved a problem a bunch of other people were
stuck on [i think this is descrived in vague terms in
the show, but i saw it a only in part and a while ago]
annd he's not doubt a bright guy ... but personally i
find s. weinberg more impressive and certainly more
articulate. "dreams of a final theory" is a more accessible
but still interesting book. it's also cheeper than the
GSW book ... which is a $50 "paperback" and fairly tough
going if you dont have say 2yrs of grad math. --psb
\_ did anyone in this thread express interest in
a "standard serious work?"
\- dear mr. too short: "phony physicists rarely write
standard serious works". --psb
\_ fuck off. -real physicist
\_ you lie. a real physicist wouldn't call herself
such (maybe "physics grad student" or "physics
prof"). i wont make judgments on whether she'd
be posting to the motd.
\_ doh! you got me! it turns out that i'm the
pompus ass sysadmin knowitall who learns
about the most useless theory in physics
to impress girls at parties, and you're actually
the physicist! my bad! |
| 2003/12/4 [Transportation/Car, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:11309 Activity:high |
12/2 Hey as long as i'm bringing purged motd items back to life..
Does anyone have any statistics comparing per captia crime
rates by population density?
\_ let me ask you a question. If you're walking down a dark street
at night, do you feel safer when you see lots of cars on the road,
or when you see lots of other pedestrians? Do you feel safer
seeing a squad car drive by, or actually seeing a cop out on the
beat? I claim that throwing idiotic car cities like LA and pheonix
together with real cities like chicago or seattle and comparing them
with rich suburbs misses the point. Car culture leads to
an impersonal, anonymus society, which leads to not only crime, but
lonelines and misery which you can't quantify with your
statistics.
\_ The answer you think is correct is correct. But, walking down
a deserted street in SF in the middle of the night i am way
more on my gaurd than I would be on a similarly deserted street
in a (much poorer) rural area. Cities are much richer than
rural areas on average, but, again, I bet densely populated
cities have much higher per capita rates of violent crimes.
(now, that by no means would establish causality between
poplation density and crime, as there are confounding factors,
but still... "Animals can be driven insane by placing too many
of them into too small a space...")
Also there is a number of famous cases where a person is being
brutally attacked over a long and well populated distance, in
places like NY, with no one interferring or calling the police.
This sort of think does not happen in rural areas. (that is, if
people see you in trouble, they will help a *much* higher % of
the time.)
\_ I have never felt safer having seen a cop. If i was female I
would probably feel differently.
\_ A mugger can only steal what you have on you at the time.
The police are under no such restriction.
\_ A mugger can kill you. I suppose it's not stealing, but
makes you lose everything.
\_ It's a hell of a thing to kill a man. You take away
everything he's got, and everything he's ever going
to have. - William Munny |
| 2003/12/4 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion] UID:11310 Activity:high |
12/2 I shouldn't do this. But I just can't help myself...
I was accused in a now defunct thread of being a pro-life libertarian.
In fact, I am a pro-abortion libertarian. The difference between me
and the poster is that i'm capable of a shred of objectivity
and of conceding an opponents point. Roe v. wade is a archetypical
example of "legislating from the bench". Unless you really think the
constitution makes mention of which trimester it is ok to kill a fetus
in. -phuqm
\_ it's funny how flame/troll/debate topics seem to flucutate
on the motd. I've seen people try to start abortion flame
wars dozens of times without anyone even bothering to
reply over the last few years, but now all of a sudden it's
a hot button topic here. doesn't anyone want to have a
nice isreal/palestine flamewar?
\_ The constitution does make it a capital crime to kill another
human being. This opens Pandora's Box as concerns the question
of what constitutes a human being; whether the health of the
mother is more vital than the health of the fetus; whether a
woman can be coerced to bear to term a child she conceived
through rape, incest, date-rape, or other violation; and whether a
woman is obliged to bear to term a child that has been demonstrated
to have genetic or terratogenic defects, life-threatening or
no. Roe v. Wade seeks to clarify the Constitution by interpreting
it according to current ethical standards while taking into
account recent social phenomena like Women's Lib and the Sexual
Revolution. This is the job of the Supreme Court: to wade in,
when the Constitution is unclear, and take a stab at clarifying
it. If the Legislative Branch disagrees, it's free to draft
Constitutional Amendments that clarify the Constitution as they
perceive it. --erikred
\_ Sorry, you have it backwards. Roe was social engineering,
completely unfounded with no stare decisis. Its laughable
how you divine the existence of a natural right to abortion
from the bill of rights, or that such a question necessitates
Federal authority. Its a state issue, insofar as the
question can broached by government. The role of the
Supreme Court is exactly NOT to wade into vaguely defined
question of social justice. Leave it to the voters
and a legislature. 'Clarify it with current ethical
standards' - so when pedophilia and beastiality are in vogue
well have the Supreme Court to clarify it for us. Whoopee!
\_ That's right, abortion is just like pedophelia and
bestiality. Anyone who wants legal abortions must first
defend legalizing animal abuse and sex with children.
\_ Thanks for the laughable assertions, but unless you're
willing to put forth a logical explanation for your
point of view, expect to be laughed at and then ignored.
\_ Law changes with society. If you cannot accept that, then
you can't even expect to get to step one in understanding.
\_ Here my logical explanation: I can read the
Constitution and all of the ancillary documents.
That is the beauty of it, its so simply written all you
do is READ the damn thing. Yes socials mores change,
that is why there are provisions for these things called
AMENDMENTS. That is how you change the Constitution,
not by redendering your percevied view of justice
from a bench. You elitist fucks think you are so
smart, that you need to save the populace from itself.
\_ protecting the rights of minorities is one of the
tenets of our democracy. what gives you the right
to make laws about what people do with their own
body?
\_ you are missing the point. I suggest that you
are too stupid to engage in this conversation.
\_ I suggest you missed my point. I responded
to the "save the populace from itself"
remark. I also suggest you are a shithead.
\_ Please learn to format your posts to 80 char
columns. But you are right, if this had been
decided by legislature instead of the courts
it would be much less contentious.
\_ Nice.
\_ That doesn't fit the black and white neocon world, babykiller!
\_ where does the constitution ever talk about what crimes are
capital crimes?
\_ this is well reasoned but not correct. The Constitution does
NOT make it a capital crime to kill another person. The
Constitution does not make ANYTHING a "capital crime". IIRC,
The only "crimes" the constitution mentions by name are
counterfeiting and treason. The Constitution is not a body of
laws for governing people. It is a body of laws for governing
GOVERNMENT. It lays out who has what authority to do what
and it does so in a pretty damn clear manner. (it is also
pretty short, i recommend reading it.) The basis
for convicting murderers is in STATE laws (the penal code for
murder in CA is 187 iirc). The Supreme court has the
authority to overturn unconstitutional laws; it does not have
the (constitutional) authority to MAKE NEW ONES. That is the
role of the Legislative branches of the US and of the States.
Roe V. Wade, suggested that it laws against abortion were
unconstitutional as they violated the non-explicit "penumbra"
of rights implied by the explicit stating of the bill-of-rights
Now, this is already a bit of a stretch, but being a Libertine
i'm all for it. However, when it goes a step further and says
"but a law which prohibits 3rd trimester abortions would be ok"
it is no longer "clarifying the constitution by interpretation."
It is legislating pure and simple. It is saying women in the
US can have an abortion up till 6 months and not after. That
is not its role. -phuqm
\_ It is the role of the Supreme Court to determine if a law
is constitutional or not. The Supreme Court decided in this
case that the current law was not consitutional. The SC then
went on to describe a scenario in which a similar law would
be constitutional, thus providing a counterpoint to its
decision. It did not make 3rd trimester abortions illegal,
and it did not enjoin the House and Senate to pass
legislation in this vein on pain of penalty. How is this
legislating? --erikred
\_ objectivity is a farce
\_ Thanks for the sophmoric philosophy lesson. This is exactly
the sophistry they are using in law schools today to teach a
whole generation of law students that it is ok to rule without
regard for what the law says, because, hell, who can know for
SURE. That a goal is not perfectaly attainable does not mean
you should not attempt to get closer. -phuqm
\_ is phuqm an alias? can't seem to find this user.
\_ fuck'em
\_ yes. -phuqm@hotmail.com
\_ then why bother signing your shit? it's not like any of
us are going to bother writing you at some anonymous
hotmail account.
\_ why does anyone bother? who cares? it's just a
usenet dickhead ego thing. |
| 2003/12/4 [Recreation/Dating] UID:11311 Activity:nil |
12/4 Hesh wants sex!
\_ Damn you and your meme spreading ways. This Hesh?
http://www.thehesh.net
Or this Hesh?
http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/cast/character_adler.shtml
Or this Hesh?
http://www.robotswillkill.com/graffiti/showgraff.php?artist_id=94
\_ This Hesh -op
http://www.geocities.com/audrahammer/riphesh.html
\_ What the freak was that?!?
\_ Hm. I like my Heshes better. |
| 2003/12/4-5 [Transportation/Motorcycle] UID:11312 Activity:nil |
12/4 I want to learn how to wheelies and stoppies on my new Hiyabusa,
where is a good place to do that? -new bike rider
\_ by learning how to spell HAYABUSA, baka gaijin.
\_ A new rider, you bought a Hayabusa, and you want to do wheelies
and stoppies? Hey, can I have your computer? You're obviously
not gonna need it for long. |
| 2003/12/4 [Computer/SW] UID:11313 Activity:nil |
12/4 Very cool way to fold your shirts quickly -
http://myweb.hinet.net/home6/monoplanet/100.wmv
Makes me wonder, are there web sites out there that similarly
teach one how to optimize other things you do repetitively in
life? (e.g. iron pants optimally, ...)
\_ Have you watched "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"?
\_ It's on cable, not "free" TV, right? :(
\_ no, I think abc has it now. It still sucks.
\_ "I think it's called ge-wur-zammer."
\_ That is so cool. |
| 2003/12/4 [Uncategorized] UID:11314 Activity:nil |
12/4 wrt to the grammy's, what's the difference between "album of
the year" and "record of the year"?
\_ "Album" = "album", "record" = "single" |
| 2003/12/4-5 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11315 Activity:nil |
12/4 US State Department to censor Wesley Clark's testimony in Milosevic
trial:
http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/12/03/3fcd71b815e8e
\_ My question is why Wesley Clark would testify at a court which
USA never recognized at first place? Wouldn't it makes a mockery
of our own policy?
\_ You're thinking of the ICC, the International Criminal Court.
Clark is testifying before the International War Crimes
Tribunal in the Hague, about his command of NATO during the
Kosovo action. These are totally different entities. It's
fairly obvious that the State Department is trying to
suppress positive news coverage of a Democratic candidate,
as there isn't much to protect in the way of national security
here. |
| 2003/12/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:11316 Activity:nil |
12/4 Is there a way to do a c/c++ log macro/function so that in the log
message it will automatically output the filename/function name
or something of that sort?
\_ One (bad) attempt, just to give you an idea:
#define LOGMSG logMsg(__FILE__, __LINE__,
int logMsg(char *fname, int line, char *msgfmt, ...) {
char msg[512]; va_list vl;
va_start(vl, msgfmt); vsprintf(msg, msgfmt, vl); va_end(vl);
printf("%s:%d : %s", fname, line, msg);
return 0;
}
Macros don't allow varargs, so your uses of this macro are going to
\_ http://docs.freebsd.org/info/gcc/gcc.info.Macro_Varargs.html
\_ that's almost as cool as the shirt folding thing. Thanks.
look like
LOG_MSG "This is error number %d\n", foo);
^ note missing "("
The macro will expand this to
logMsg(__FILE__, __LINE__, "This is error number %d\n", foo);
and your log msg will look like:
myfile.c:104 : This is error number 5
It would be a lot nicer if you could define some standard log formats,
then you wouldn't have to do that horrible horrible macro stuff.
\_ You should use log4cplus. I use it and it's fairly easy to
configure. |
| 2003/12/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:11317 Activity:nil |
12/4 Is there any reason to worry about mixing the usage of malloc and new?
Obviously, you can't delete() malloc'd memory (and vv), but aside from
that, will bad things happen? Oh, I should note that this is for a C
library that is used by C++ -- a coworker suggested wrapping my memory
allocations (and deletions) with
#ifdef __cplusplus
foo = new char[100];
#else
foo = (char*) malloc(100 * sizeof(char));
#endif
\_ as long as you call free only on malloc-allocated memory and delete
only on new-allocated memory, you should be fine. If it were the
case otherwise, then you wouldn't be able to link C++ code against
C code. |
| 2003/12/4 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:11318 Activity:high |
12/4 Maine teacher sues over school board curriculum that prevents teaching
about non-Christian civilizations and religions, e.g. ancient Greece:
http://www.pressherald.com/news/state/031204teachersues.shtml
\_ Maine SAD1's Superintendent speaks out on the charges:
http://www.sad1.k12.me.us/supt-statement.pdf
To wit, 7th and 8th grade curriculum focuses on European and
US History, while World History is relegated to 9th grade. Cole
teaches middle school. Supe claims that Cole is welcome to
broach non-Christian topics so long as they apply to topics set
aside for each grade.
\_ Thanks for the response. I wouldn't say this settles it, though.
Time will tell but if the charges are as baseless as the
superintendent seems to believe, the lawsuit will be dismissed
out of hand. For the teacher to go through so much trouble,
there may very well be something going on here that we don't
yet know about. It is true that more and more school boards
across the country are controlled by fundamentalist groups, and
are using their position to dictate curriculum.
\_ what will be ironic and sad is if the conservative agendas
of school choice and religion in school are both
of school choice and religion in the school are both
idiot kids who were put in schools with a medieval
curriculum by their barbarian parents. I think this
may well be where we are heading.
\_ So the ancient Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Celts, etc. were not in
Europe? How about native American cultures in the USA?
yet know about.
pushed to the point where there is a vast underclass of
idiot kids who were put in schools with a midaeval
curriculum by their barbarian parents. |
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