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| 2003/11/7 [Uncategorized] UID:10970 Activity:nil |
11/6 restored again. -backup motd restorer |
| 2003/11/7-13 [Recreation/Dating] UID:10971 Activity:nil |
11/6 restored.
\_ love you, man |
| 2003/11/7 [Transportation/Car, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:10972 Activity:kinda low |
11/6 Doubts about the profiteering motives of the Iraq action?
http://www.hillnews.com/news/110503/profiteering.aspx
\_ And they say there's no looting:
"At a Democratic Policy Committee hearing, Melanie Sloan,
executive director of the watchdog group Citizens for
Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, testified that
"Halliburton [formerly headed by Vice President Dick
Cheney] has charged an average price of $2.65 a gallon
of gasoline imported into Iraq from Kuwait, despite experts'
conclusions that the total price should be less than $1 a
gallon." Sloan added that Iraq's state oil company is
importing "the exact same gas" for 97 cents.
\_ Experts? Which experts? Gas in a war torn country still
suffering partisan attacks should pay half of what I do in
the most stable country on the planet? I think not. Also,
that's not called looting. The word you're looking for is
'gouging'. The real gouging is going on right here in the
Bay Area. I'd bet a buck you're one of the RIDE BIKE! folks
who think high gas prices here are a good thing while at the
same time you're bitching about the high price somewhere else.
\_ personally, i believe gas prices, like other prices,
shoule be determined by the free market. Maybe the
market would set prices in iraq at 4 bucks per gallon,
and at one dollar per gallon in the bay area, but
we won't know until we try will we? It's ironic
that the profiteers who have taken control of our
federal gonvernment claim to be pro-free market
and then appear to be socialists when it makes their
business associates rich.
\_ (1) Iraq is in an area where people are swimming in oil,
and they don't have to ship it half way around the
world, yet they are paying $2.65 which is much higher
than what most of this country is paying.
(2) There is a big difference between higher gasoline
prices due to taxes (that goes to pay infrastructure
improvements and pollution control, etc.) and
higher gasoline prices due to price gouging that
goes straight to pockets of fat cats like Dick Cheney.
\_ If location is so important please explain to me why I
pay 25 cents more per gallon living near a few refineries
than I do when I drive to the more remote parts of the
Bay Area which is getting their gas from the same
refineries? It's called price gouging. As for your
second point, you have absolutely no idea what the price
breakdown is for taxes,fuel costs, transport, security or
anything on Iraqi gas (or US gas either I'd guess). The
real price gouging is going on right here in the Bay Area.
Tell me, you out there RIDING BIKE!?
\_ Since you insist on being a moron, I will explain
it to you. Difference in transportation cost is
insignificant between where you live and other areas
of the Bay Area compared to the other costs of
the gasoline. However, difference in tranportation
cost becomes significant when it is half way around
the world compared to right at the doorstep (i.e.
Kuwait to Iraq). As for the breakdown of price,
the Iraqi state oil company is selling at $1 per
gallon, so can you tell us which of the factors
you mentioned (tax, fuel, transport, security) is
the cause of the additional $1.65 Halliburton is
charging?
\_ You completely ignored my question about why I pay
more living next to a refinery than I do when I
drive 200 miles in land where gas comes from the
same refinery. If you're going to call someone a
moron and then explain why they're a moron, at least
put some effort into your proof. This is the point
where I'm supposed to call you a moron in return but
I won't. Your intellectual dishonesty speaks for
itself.
\_ BC raised taxes throughout his administration and
you're worried about a measly $1.65? Grow up.
\_ Non-sequitor post of the day.
\_ free Kevin!!
\_ That totally follows...
OP: Something bad has happened in the Bush
Administration.
Rep: It's Bill Clinton's fault!! |
| 2003/11/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:10973 Activity:nil |
11/6 I have 1024MB of RAM in my debian linux server, but free, top and
/proc/meminfo all report only Mem: 901392. Why? I'm running the
2.4.18-k7 debian kernel, an Asus A7v8x + Athlon 2000MHz processor.
\_ in redhat and lilo i have to put a line like "mem = 1024M"
to recognize more than a gig of RAM but that might not
be your problem. - danh
\_ I tried this line in lilo.conf, still doesn't see all the ram:
append="mem=1024M"
\_ What do you have your AGP aperature set to? My understanding is
that ify our video card wants memory for textures, it takes
the memory off the top. I could be wrong :-)
\_ Are you counting the fs cache in your 901392? |
| 2003/11/7 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:10974 Activity:nil |
11/6 Does anybody know what the difference is between these two procs:
1) VIA Cyrix III 650AMHz (100 X 6.5)
2) VIA C3 650MHz (100 X 6.5)
\_ IIRC, Cyrix was faster but ran hotter. Via's chips were all low
power. |
| 2003/11/7 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:10975 Activity:nil |
11/6 Newbie C qutions: how do you pass a variable to a system call.
I think you have to define an array with sprintf and then pass it
like so...
//start
// stuff include stdio, argv and argc def and main, etc...
char *cmd;
// lots of stuff here
cmd = sprintf("echo echoing %s is arg1 ", argv[1]);
system(cmd);
//end
It compiles but seg faults. What am i doing wrong? (tnx)
\_ See sprintf(3) man page.
\_ Your bug is about sprintf(). It has nothing to do with system call.
\_ More explicitly (and you'd better be C newbie), you need to allocate
memory for cmd, not just define a pointer to it:
char cmd[128]; // cmd now points to the first of 128 chars on the stack
snprintf(cmd, 128, "echo echoing %s is arg1 ", argv[1]);
\_ better: sizeof cmd
system(cmd);
\_ snprintf() is not ANSI C
\_ yeah yeah yeah, but "good habits" and some other fucker
dinged me for not checking strlen(argv[1]).
\_ snprintf is standardized in C99.
11/6 Day 241 since the Invasion of Iraq.
Still no WMD.
\_ Bush never said it was about WMD
\_ sure he did. several times. I still don't think
that's why we went there in the first place, it makes
me sad our president is so dishonest.
\_ I take a president who lies about blowjob than
a president who lies about going to war any day.
\_ Yeah the lesser of two evils is always good.
\_ COUGH COUGH!
\_ It amazes me that you would try to make this claim:
http://csua.org/u/4x5
\_ "The American people know that Saddam Hussein was a gathering
danger, as I said. And the world is safer as a result for us
removing him from power. ... Saddam Hussein is a man who hid
programs and weapons for years. He was a master at hiding things."
-dubya
\_ That's actually true.
\_ no it's not. Yes, Saddam Hussein is a dangerous man,
but we had no problem with that in the past. He is
ambitious, yet RATIONAL. By removing him, we have
open up all sort of possiblility in Iraq. It is
unlikely that pro-western democracy will prevail, nor
is likely that a relatively non-religious dictator will
again rule Iraq. At best, there will be some sort of
Fundamental Islamic Revolution similiar to Iran 30 yr ago,
worse, it will be a land of anarchy that is heaven for all
the mulism fanatics world wide.
\_ Excuse me? Iraq has *never* been ruled by religious
fundamentalists in anything even remotely like modern
times. And you may have noted the religious government
in Iran is cracking and won't be with us soon. You have
no basis what so ever for any of your predictions.
\_ Uh... What's not true? That Saddam hid programs and
weapons for years? That's clearly and demonstrably true.
That he is a master of hiding things? Also true.
I think you are reading more into this quote than it
actually says.
\_ The world is far more dangerous as a result of the
invasion.
\_ Why? The spacemonkeys are going to blow themselves
up in Iraq, not on US soil. More dangerous for
soldiers, less dangerous for civilians. As it
should be. War is war, after all.
\_ for once, step outside of United States,
you will see anti-US setiment is at the highest
level EVER among citizens of other nations.
This includes Germany, France, as well as
non-Middle-Eastern, non-Muslim nations.
Like it or not, *EVERYONE* think USA is the
aggressor. And Everyone is nerveous about
they are the next target in Bush's crosshair.
\_ Ok, let's accept your claim for a moment. So
what? Are you aware they invented a new term
for the US? We're no longer a mere Super
Power, but a Hyper Power. An entity of such
incredible military, cultural, and economic
super might the likes of which the world has
has never seen before. The United States has
the ability to 100% impose it's will upon the
rest of the world. *That* is what the EU and
everyone is afraid of. The reason they hate
us is because we *dont* impose our will in
the same way they would or have in the past
when they got the chance. They know there's
nothing they can do to prevent American
culture from taking over the world and we're
not even trying!
\_ Do you honestly still believe that Saddam Hussein was
"a gathering danger"?
\_ Yes I do. The man was a nutcase in power. Those
need to be removed.
11/6 Why vote for Dean? Why donate to Dean? Convince me.
\_ for me it comes down to one issue: health care. I've worked full
time and had no health care and i know how much that sucks.
40 million americans have no health insurance, which effectively
means that they can't get health care. I don't think any of the
other candicates care about this, can get elected, and will
have the will to make a national healthcare plan work.
I believe Dean does. Also, don't believe the hype about
Dean being an ultra-leftist. go read his positions on issues
on his website and blog, and listen to the debates on cspan.
he's a moderate who might just change one of the biggest
injustices in our society.
\_ Ever hear of Kaiser Permenante? Just buy it, how
stupid can you be? Instead you want freebies that other
people pay for. Leech.
\_ Let them eat cake!
\_ please use motdedit, you overwrote my response.
\_ Fuck motdedit. In the ear.
\_ sorry. could someone post where the documentation for
motdedit is for the thousanth time please? -evil vi user
\_ motdedit -h?
\_ I don't know about documentation, but reading the source
it seems it invokes what is set as your $EDITOR variable
The file is /csua/bin/motdedit and is written in Perl.
\_ you can also use the shortcut "me" which is the same
file. Less typing! More locking! All is good.
\_ Because Kuninich could never get elected in a million years.
\_ Because he is !Bush.
\_ http://deanforamerica.com click "On The Issues" in the sidebar.
Start with Economy, then Foreign Policy, Health, Campaign Finance,
... well, anything you're interested in. He's got real plans
that can work in the real world. Is he going to be everything
you ever hoped for in a candidate? No. But he has good
compromises.
\_ I like Dean's straight talk. You won't always agree with
him on every issue, but you will know his reasons and he
is the kind of guy who listens to FACTS, unlike the
ideologues who have the RNC in a headlock. This next
election is crucial and Dean is the one to restore real
ethics and our government and real security to our country
with an effective, multilateral foreign policy. You can't
fight terrorism without winning hearts and minds. --aaron
\_ At least we know *you* don't have any biases or an axe
to grind. Now I know I can safely vote for anyone but
Dean and not feel bad for not checking him out.
\_ His site runs FreeBSD
\_ See! Ties to Satan! (Daemon-worship)
\_ OK. So I'm convinced that Dean is the best candidate
in terms of health care. But I'm concerned about other
issues, such as foreign policy. Tell me why Dean is better
for foreign policy than Lieberman or any of the other strong
Democratic candidates.
\_ Presuming you also read the FP link on deanforamerica: I'm
impressed by his attitude toward fighting terrorism, which seems
to be that, yes, we need to destroy the terrorist orgs, but we
we also need to avoid turning more young men into terrorists.
It seems like he understands that men in their 20s, with a wife
and 2 kids at home, don't strap bombs to their torsos because
Allah told them to-- in most cases, it's because they've lost all
hope of ever resolving the issue peacefully.
\_ Oh My gosh, you are saying that Muslim are human too?
Did i just sense sanity in Motd?
\_ I was convinced just watching him. Find some video of his speeches.
I watched him talk in Iowa on CSPAN and it was clear. The other
candidates with a chance don't have a strong message. They do
nothing but attack Dean now. They simply can't win vs. Bush. Kerry
"looks" presidential but that's about it. They act like typical
politicians, criticizing while trying to avoid saying anything too
specific that would open themselves to criticism. |
| 2003/11/7 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic] UID:10976 Activity:high |
11/7 http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1494600 More proof that evil old dead rich white business people are out to destroy the left in this country. I think we should raise taxes to match this amount in support. It's only fair. \_ Governor Wilson, is that you? \_ Yes, I've kept my account all these years after graduation. I've never forgotten my CS root at Cal. --GW |
| 2003/11/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10977 Activity:moderate |
11/7 I have an XP installation that reboots itself before it finishes
booting up, and I'd like to do a fresh install but it was cd-key'd
by my old school and I don't know the key. Is there a way to get
the CD-key from the repair console or from a rescue disk?
\_ that is why I hate XP. This may sounds unproductive, but I would
just reinstall Windows 2000 instead. Same kernel, same File System
thus, same OS. Personally, I can live without those eye candies
\_ Yea, some military doctors says her some of her
wounds are unlikely to be caused by the Humvee crash.
She herself remembers nothing except that she was
treated well througout her captivity.
and product activation "features."
\_ Yes, there is. Look for "XPKey". It took me about 10 minutes to
find both a working key extractor and a new key generator. The
key generator took about 2 hours to create a valid key on my
ancient PIII. The key extractor takes zero time to find and display
your current key. No, I won't give you my name or put copies in
/tmp or anything like that. google.
\_ is this why MS wants to buy google?
\_ How about an URL from google?
\_ I'll sell you a full install CD (from Dell) for $60 obo, including
the certificate of authenticity.
\_ A little effort and you can find a copy of XP Corporate (same as
Professional, except without activation). That + XPKey will get you
working without activation. If you have a legal license of XP Pro,
it is (IMO) an ethical solution.
\_ Saving files off USENET isn't any effort. |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:10978 Activity:nil |
11/7 Here's one for the motd censors:
http://www.spectacle.org/0401/sethf.html |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Recreation/Media] UID:10979 Activity:high 66%like:12088 |
11/7 motd poll: best movie ever:
9 1/2 weeks but the original story was way hotter: .
\_ what is this about?
Office Space: ..
conan: ..
Contact: .
yermom does dallas: ..
Deep Throat:
videodrome: .
Dr. Strangelove: .
Fargo: .
City of Lost Children: .
8 1/2 inches: .
Seven Samurai: .
Angels and Insects: .
Amadeus: . |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Computer/HW] UID:10980 Activity:nil |
11/7 Can I upgrade motherboards in my Gateway computer or do they use
some proprietary screw pattern?
\_ Probably. They tend to use standard parts to keep things cheap.
It's likely you'll find at least 3 matching screw holes. |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:10981 Activity:nil |
11/7 I've got a redhat 9 firewall question. I've *never* used the fw stuff
on linux so please help a total newbie. The right man pages or the
straight answer are both good. I've got a freshly installed RH9 box
and I want to block everything except incoming port 22 and some other
random ports but only for a certain set of IPs on the same subnet.
How do I do that? Thanks!
\_ C'mon, I can't believe no one here can help me get a start with
firewall configuration on redhat. -op
\_ This is the best doc on ipchains. There are other ways to
firewall the box, but this is the most secure way:
http://www.netfilter.org/ipchains/HOWTO-4.html
\_ THANK YOU SO MUCH!! -op |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:10982 Activity:nil |
11/7 http://www.spamlaws.com/state/ca1.html |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:10983 Activity:nil |
11/7 http://www.bancruelfarms.org/meatrix FLASH animation \_ good one (may not be work safe, but it got through my filter ok) \_ just how not worksafe is it? -at work in big open slave pen \_ need headphones(as with any flash movie), otherwise, it's just cartoons. |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:10984 Activity:high |
11/7 Please, please use motdedit. You're overwriting my posts and creating
a censorship boogyman for idiots to point at. If you don't like
motdedit, I'd really like to hear why. Are you an emacs user who
doesn't like to leave the emacs shell? Specifically, I don't want to
hear from pro-me people, just the people who don't like it. Perhaps we
can make it better.
\_ Ooh! This sounds fun! Guess who I am?
\_ hey, maybe you should post where motdedit is found, and where
the documentation is, and then repost it after it's instantly
deleted a few times. some of us just don't know where it is.
]man motdedit
No manual entry for motdedit
\_ /csua/bin/motdedit.
\_ right. so there is no documentation, and you have to
use EMACS. fuck that. I'll just write my own, or
stick with vi until someone else writes something
better.
\_ Not at all. It tries to use your VISUAL_EDITOR env var,
then EDITOR, then emacs as a last resort. In tcsh, try
% setenv EDITOR vi
then run motdedit again.
\_ ok, that's a start, but there's still no documentation.
how do i save without writing over someone else's post?
did someone seriously write this thing and write
*no* documentation at all? if so, i'll refuse to use
it on general principle, since people like that
should have their engineering degrees taken away and
be held up for public ridicule.
\_ Dude. /csua/bin/motdedit -h. Try thinking for
yourself. --scotsman
\_ If you're using motdedit, the only way you'd save
over someone else's changes is if they did not use
motdedit. When you start motdedit, it tries to
aquire a lock. If it's already locked, you have to
wait to edit. Once you edit, it locks so that other
people can't edit, unless they are being hosers by
not using motdedit and ignoring your lock.
In re: no documentation. It's not very complicated
and the code is pretty well documented.
\_ "The code wasn't complicated so we didn't document
anything". --pre-Y2k programmers around the world.
\_ It's just a flame-editing program installed on
a single student-group machine. Best
engineering practices are sometimes impractical
\_ right. so writing a one paragraph
description of what it does and
how to use it is "impractical."
fuck you and fuck all the arrogant dick
hackers like you.
\_ I was refering to making and installing
a man page. I'm not root, are you?
\_ There's a 1-paragraph description at the
top of the file. It's a perl script.
Learn from it.
\_ Who let this idiot into CSUA?
\_ Who let this idiot into CSUA? Who not teach this
idiot about article part of English, "the"?
\_ it's another anti pseudo-anonymity feature. *I* don't smash new
stuff on the motd but I've noticed that arrogant self righteous
motdedit users do so I have no sympathy.
\_ I regularly smash other people's stuff with motdedit. Why?
Because when vi tells me that the file has changed, in order to
preserve other people's comments 1) I have to make a copy of my
comments in some other buffer 2) read the file again 3) paste my
comments back again and hope that someone else didn't edit the
file while I was doing all this. And why should I be doing all of
this? Just because you're too good not to use motdedit?
\_ You're a lazy and arrogant prick. That's exactly what I do
as a non-motdedit user. Why should I be doing all of this?
To save the text of some lazy good for nothing asshole who
has nothing worth saying anyway? I do it because it's right.
\_ I blame it on Clinton
\_ Nothing on the motd is anonymous anyways, Jeffrey. With or
without motdedit, which I notice you don't use.
\_ Jeffrey? Heh, try again. If you're going to name names get
it right. Don't leave yourself looking like a fool. Your
system script fu is weak!
\_ I guess yours is better, ecchang? -!op
\_ *hah!* wrong again!
\_ huh? - ecchang
\_ Dude, it's easy to scp the update into /etc/motd.public.
\_ Don't even have to do that.
\_ vi myproject.c then :r /etc/motd.public, edit away
:w! /etc/motd.public then go back to editing your
original file for a while, then exit your vi.
And of course this is all trivial if you edit the
motd in an emacs buffer without starting/stopping
emacs. Watching the motd is near impossible on
a busy system, without kernel hacks, if the motd
editors are trying to hide. -ERic
\_ ERic, are you the author of motdwatch?
\_ That's a good one but it really doesn't even
require that much effort. |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:10985 Activity:nil |
11/7 If you're looking for a good, monospaced programming font, check out
http://www.tobias-jung.de/seekingprofont . Mac, Windows, *nix.
\_ This is new. I didn't know there were font nerds.
\_ Consider yourself lucky. I knew a very hardcore font nerd in
highschool. his parents used to get him fonts for christmas.
no joke.
\_ Weird. He go into publishing or the nuthouse?
\_ Hey, a good font can make a day of coding *much* easier on the
eyes, reduce mistakes, etc.
\_ After looking at this, I still prefer Lucida Console on windows.
Less vertical space. |
| 2003/11/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:10986 Activity:high |
11/7 Pvt. Lynch upset about the filming and portrayal of her rescue.
http://salon.com/news/wire/2003/11/07/lynch_portrayal/index.html
\_ this is controversial because??
\_ Aren't you a little upset that the government fabricated
a nice media story about a dangerous midnight special forces
rescue while tacitly admitting that the situation was safe
enough to have a CAMERAMAN there?
\_ The camera was held by a special forces guy, not someone from
the NYT. Feel better now? Or just less ignorant?
\_ Obviously it was a special forces guy. Why did he have it?
Was it to protect his squad, or just to get American hearts
pumping proud patriotic blood? It reminded me of Wag the
Dog-- 8 macho americans storm a dangerous terrorist hospital
and rescue the pretty blonde princess from the axis of evil...
and we've got VIDEO!
\_ because they film a lot of stuff for both training and
how-can-we-improve purposes. if you weren't so anti-
military you might understand how it works.
\_ Which is of course why we see so much footage of bombed
out schools and dead soldiers on the evening news. I'm
not anti-military, I'm against the spin efforts the
government is pushing. It's not fair to the american
public and the soldiers themselves to release footage of
a quasi-staged rescue but forbid releasing footage of
military failures.
\_ if you have to ask...
\_ you're useless
\_ 1. She didn't fight until the bitter end. Her gun was jammed.
2. Contrary to US media, she was not mistreated after her
capture.
\_ interestingly, in today's chron they're reporting there
is evidence of sexual assault in her capture. Article
Titled "POW Lynch was raped by Iraqi Captors, biography says"
\_ [Graphic detail censored to keep motd work-safe.]
\_ one of the few news worthy items got censored? for
work safeness? so its ok for your boss to see the
junk on the motd on your screen wasting company time
and resources but not if it refers to a soldier's
anal rape at the hands of her barbaric captors?
\_ They lied about WMD. They lied about her going
down fighting. They lied about circumstances of
her rescue. Could they be lying about her having
been raped?
\_ not mistreated? so get anally raped by one or more Iraqis
doesn't count as mistreatment? there's a human rights
violation investigation going on since shortly after the
government fell. The WP misreported. Bush nor any other
admin figure said she went down fighting.
\_ Yea, some military doctors says some of her
wounds are unlikely to be caused by the Humvee crash.
She herself remembers nothing except that she was
treated well throughout her captivity.
\_ They're lying about her not being raped, too!
Those bastards! |
| 2003/11/7 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:29622 Activity:nil |
11/7 Its time for a new verb:
clinton (v), as in "to clinton," to assign blame for your own mistakes,
or those of the people that you support, on someone wholly unconnected
to the mistake in question. e.g., "I screwed up the quarterly report,
so I called my boss and clintoned Bob. He totally fell for it." |
| 2003/11/7 [Politics/Domestic] UID:29623 Activity:nil |
11/7 Another Republican victory. Internet tax ban upheld for 5 more years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A12597-2003Nov7?language=printer
\_ right. republicans like Ron Wyden. Good point. This isn't a
party issue, jackass. |
| 2003/11/7 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:29624 Activity:high |
11/7 Another chopper is down in Iraq...
\_ Duh, it's post-war partisan cleanup. It happens. Only children
and the naive think war is like G.I.Joe vs Cobra. Say a prayer
for the families of the soldiers.
\_ And blame the men who put them in harm's way needlessly while
lying to the world and destroying your nation's moral authority.
\_ needless is a matter of opinion. what's the exchange rate
between moral authority and something of value?
\_ I don't know but I do know that we
should have a damn good reason (instead of
constantly changing reasons for the war)
for sacrificing American lives.
\_ I prefer to pray for the deaths of Iraqi guerillas and
all anti-American Iraqis. I wish they all die and rot
in hell.
\_ troll
\_ like the first one wasn't?
\_ what makes it a troll? it isn't. --not praying for anything
\_ "Bring 'em on!" -GWB
\_ Bush just created six new job openings in Iraq! |
| 2003/11/7 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:29625 Activity:nil |
11/7 Turkey is not sending trops to Iraq. A blow to President Bush,
perhaps, but Turkey troop would of caused more problem than it
would resolve if they are actually being send ti Iraq anyway.
\_ What is going on at the White House??
\_ "would of"?
\_ The Iraqi Governing Council was screaming bloody murder about the
possibility so we didn't push it. |
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