10/30   Any pointers on how to export addressbook from Exchange Server to
        openldap?
        \_ you can do ldap queries against an exchange server. i'm sure you
           can use that to import back into ldap later.

10/30   What is __P()?  I've seen the DragonFlyBSD guys crowing about finally
        getting rid of it.  What does it do?
        \_ Hackery for allowing old K&R non-prototype compilers to work
           with ANSI/ISO C89 prototypes in headers.
           \_ How does it work?  Links?  It's hard to get anything in google.
        \_ look at sys/cdefs.h, and then look at how it is used.  Like
           was said before it is there to allow old non-prototype compilers
           to work with prototype code.

10/30   Double standard on environment issue.
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3229211.stm
        So, shut up and stop bitching about how China/India is ruining
        the environment.
        \_  Right now, the US uses about 4 terawatts of the 12 terawatts of
            global energy usage.  In 2050, that's likeley to be 40-50
            terawatts of total energy usage, with the US total about the
            same.  That means that when you're projecting decades or centuries
            into the future, which you must do in climate policy, you *have*
            to consider the developing nations as more important than the US.
            A devoloped-nations only policy simply won't fix the problem,
            and forcing quotas on the developing nations is politically
            impossible.  our only way out is technology. we must develop
            a way to generate 50 terwatts of clean power that is
            cost-competitive with petrochemicals.  It is a matter of both
            national and global security, and I believe it's not so
            far out of our reach.
            \_ Uh, nuclear. Clean, safe, unlimited.
                \_ What part of nuclear waste is clean?
                \_ nukular energy is eevviiil!
               \_ How much uranium or plutonium of the right isotops can we
                  find on earth?
               \_ I can't tell if you're being facetious.
            \_ Bah, it's more fun to Blame America First(r) and Hate America(r)
               and Kill Whitey(c).  You just killed the op's perfectly good
               anti-US troll.  -!op
            \_ 12 terawatts to 40-50 terawatts while US use stays the same?
               Sounds like a huge exaggeration of developing countries'
               energy usage growth.  Past history doesn't substantiate
               such claims.
            \_ Nah.  Even if the developing nations' energy usage
               stays the same, US still would not do anything simply because
               vested business interests don't like it.  Developing nations
               energy use is just an excuse for US not to do anything.  It's
               called the Blame Developing Nations(tm) tactic.

10/30   Do fighter planes still have guns? Or they ditched them for all
        missile configuration (because dog fights are rare nowadays)?
        \_ if you are talking about F-15/F16/F18/F14, yes. I think they
           got something like 3 seconds worth of machine gun ammo on them.
        \_ Yes.  Even the F-22 has an M61A2:
           http://www.lmaeronautics.com/products/combat_air/f-22/weapons.html
           -geordan
           \_ What I don't understand is how the F22 manages to engage
              close range with its weapons stored internally behind really
              slow doors.
              \_ The gun is mounted internally -- not behind doors.
                 As compared to a chin-gun on an AH64 or something where the
                 actual gun mechanism is mounted externally.  Internally
                 mounted cannons has been standard on fighter aircraft for
                 decades.
                 \_ Not the guns but the missles. The F22 sidewinders are
                    stored internally.
                    \_ "close range" for a missle is differnt than for cannon.
        \_ A friend of mine in the Air Force was telling me that the
           Vietnam Era F-4 was the only fighter plane to try to go w/o
           guns.  It was just supposed to be a missile platform.  They
           found out that was a bad idea.  And put guns on the F-4 as well.
           \_ why is this a bad idea in today's air fighting environment?
              \_ BVR (Beyond visual range) engagement is still a pipe
                 dream.  Sure, missles can engage and kill targets at long
                 distance way beyond BVR, but IFF (ID Friend/Foe (or
                 non-combantant) at those ranges is still lousy.  And once
                 you get inside BVR to Visual Range, missles are not always
                 an option: no more left, too high chance of locking onto
                 friendlies or non-combatants after enemy evasion, enemy
                 target is too close for use of missle which has a minimum
                 time from launch till arming ...
                 With the F-4, pilots fell to relying on long distance
                 kills from missles, losing high-end skill in ACM as well
                 skill in flying as part of a group of fighters.  F4 pilots
                 were exhausting their missles early in engagement, only to
                 picked off by MiG cannon fire.
                 There are also times you don't want to shoot a plane down,
                 but merely disable it or even warn it off.  You can't use
                 a missle for that -- you need cannons.
                 \_ Can guns or cannons on fighters shoot in directions other
                    than straight forward?  In movies like Top Gun, the pilots
                    in dog fights have to try hard to point their jets at the
                    enemy jet before firing the guns.  Why don't they just make
                    guns that can swing?
                    \_ Well, there's two main problems.  With aricraft moving
                       in excess of mach 1, side mounted guns are almost
                       useless.  Rear mounted guns assume that another pilot
                       has moved into the classic kill position, and no pilot
                       would willingly allow this.  You also wouldn't want
                       big protrusions on a plane that is supposed to fly
                       in excess of mach 1.5 -- like a turret mounted gun,
                       for example.  This would disturb the aerodynamics of
                       the aircraft far too much to be controllable.  There's
                       a reason that most weapons are either mounted
                       internally or are aerodynamic themselves (ie,
                       missiles).
                    \_ So that pilots can split their concentration between
                       guiding their high-speed planes at the same time while
                       trying to adjust their heavy swinging guns to point at
                       the rapidly moving target while conserving their 3 sec
                       worth of ammunition?
                       \_ Naturally, intelligent computer systems would auto-
                          track and destroy both planes and incoming missiles,
                          and never shoot down your wingmen.
                          \_ Oh, that's right - using "tried and true"
                             windows XP technology, right?
                             \_ Go OTS Technology!  Oh yeahhhh!
                          \_ uh huh.  yeah, sure
                    \_ Early revisions of the Phantom F4 had wing-mounted
                       cannon pods to make up for the lack of an internal
                       cannon.  These proved to be useless as discussed.
                       It wasn't until the F4E that it got an internal
                       cannon and stopped sucking.
                 kills from missles, losing high-end skill in ACM that
                 were necessary as BVR IFF was even worse then than now.

10/31   Today we teach our kids how to beg for feed.
        \_ No, it's intimination. They already know how to beg.

10/31   New Iraq 'well on way to becoming Islamic state'
        Interview with the man advising the white house on the new Iraqi
        constitution:
        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5099.htm
        'Any democratically elected Iraqi government is unlikely to be
        secular, and unlikely to be pro-Israel. And frankly, moderately
        unlikely to be pro-American.'
        \_ You are starting to sound suspiciously like a terrorist supporter
           there boy.
        \_ That's why we will install another dictator there and call him
           "president".
        \_ Who said any of those things was the point of the invasion?  Did
           you know that Iraq's new government is also quite unlikely to be
           made of cheese, and frankly moderately unlikely to be in favor
           of finer French wines for all it's citizenry?

10/31   Happy Haunting Daemons!

10/31   http://www.justchooseme.com/rules.html
        \_ what?
        \_ one of the worst designed sites around. Don't even bother. Fat chix

10/31   When was spamassassin 2.6 released?  Didn't someone ask on the motd
        last week why SA wasn't catching as much any more?  Looking at the
        default version on soda, it's 2.54, from May...
        X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp)
        \_ IFILE
           \_ How can you claim ifile is better if you don't even have the
              latest version of spamassassin to compare?
              \_ IFILE.
              \_ good -84925
                 troll -84374
                 God damned ifile.
        \_ I'm running an ancient version of SA and it hasn't been wrong yet.
           Don't be a gn00waReZ kid.  Newer isn't always better.
           \_ OK, how would old rules that spammers have adjusted their spam
              to defeat still prove effective in this case?  Not.  What
              possible incentive would there be to *not* upgrade? (other than
              upgrade-time-cost)
              \_ genius because they kept readjusting to the new SA but no
                 longer account for the old one.  it isn't rocket science.  the
                 incentive to *not* upgrade aside from being a waste of my time
                 is the old version works really well whereas the new version
                 is at best unproven and the spammers are targetting it so
                 gn00waREz kids are trapped in an endless upgrade cycle while
                 I happily continue to successfully toss out spam with my
                 ancient and distinctly not new but very functional version.
                 \_ you're a moron.
                    \_ IFILE
                    \_ yes, I'm a moron but my SA works perfectly and you're
                       sucking down spam.  think about it.
                        \_ it's very easy to prove a point if you don't
                           bother keeping to actual reality.
                           \_ Does that even parse in English?  Maybe you'd
                              like to try again?
                              \_ it's parseable english.
                                        -- impartial observer
                                        \_ Agreed. -- language snob
                                           \_ Then you uber geniuses can
                                              explain to this native speaker
                                              what he was trying to say.
                                                \_ that the guy who claims his
                                                   old version of SA works
                                                   perfectly is lying.
        \_ I just upgraded my SA. In -MCPAN shell I just typed in:
           install Mail::SpamAssassin, got some tea, came back, and 2.60 was
           installed. I'm not sure if it's any help, but generally the newer
           rules work better.

10/31   John, why did you move the switzerland and became a swiss citizen?
        Is it because of the fat american women here totally turned you off?
        \_ He's not a swiss citizen.  The swiss don't naturalize first gen
           immigrants.
           \_ Introduction.
                you are an idiot.
              Proof
                my aunt became a swiss citizen some years ago.
              References
                http://live-in-switzerland.com/e/faq/citizenship.html
              Author Bio
                -ali.
              \_ make sure to bring your committee members donuts
        \_ I moved here because my girlfriend lives here.  I'm a born dual
           citizen, but you can very well get a passport.  After 5 years,
           you can get a 'C' or unlimited 'B' permit, which is the same
           as citizenship without voting rights, regardless.  I really like
           it, the climate is nice, Zurich is a great city, I'm close to
           a lot of cool places, there's virtually no crime, the trains run
           on time, taxes are low, I'm an hour away from 5 great snowboarding
           areas, and the girls are cute and pretty stylish (on the whole.)
           Downsides are having to be tolerant of some pretty questionable
           attitudes (no difference from elsewhere), and lack of good cheap
           Chinese food.  Why do you ask?  -John
           \_ No voting rights?  Why don't you let illegals vote and get
              driver's licenses like more civilized countries like the US
              and California?
              \_ Because it's Europe. Unlike the USA/California where the
                 right to vote, drive and own guns is an inalienable right
                 even though most of the population don't know how to
                 properly perform any of the three.
                 \_ *shrug* it's got its problems.  I just find it to be
                    a really pleasant place to live.  There are a lot of
                    Americans and Brits who bring their families here because
                    it "just works".  -John
                    \_ Yeah but they can't vote like here.

10/31   So I went to Small Claims Court and won. However, I'm really
        dissappointed at how it works. It is quite informal and arbitrary,
        just like politburo, and you're at the mercy of whoever's the judge
        that day. For me, I spent a lot of time organizing photos, documents,
        NOTORIZED documents, etc but the judge didn't even ask for them.
        Like I said it's really arbitrary like politburo. Court system sux.
        \_ and even after you win, how do you collect?
           \_ go to their employer and garnish their wages if they don't
              pay up.
        \_ I won by default 10 years ago when the defedent didn't show up in
           the court.  She hit me in a crash and she didn't have a driver's
           license.  That's the end of the story.  I never collected the
           money.  Oh, the judge did look at the repair estimate slips I showed
           him before setting the amount, though.
           \_ It's your own fault for not persuing it further.  The court only
              decides who wins and for how much, if anything.  There are other
              mechanisms for extracting payment.  The court system is
              excellent.  It allows little people without a lawyer to sue and
              win thousands of dollars with little time, expense, or
              expertise in the law.
              \_ How does one force the other guy to pay after winning in Small
                 Claims Court?
                 \_ There are a few ways, the best is garnishing wages if they
                    have a real job.  If they're entirely under the table it
                    will be harder but not always impossible if you keep on
                    them.  However, it is true that for a very small claim
                    you will spend way more time and effort than the money
                    involved.  Then it becomes about revenge or personal
                    satisfaction.
                        \_ you can pay a collector, $0 if no payment collected
                           but about 50% if collected. The court case is
                           a really powerful document. The paper gives you
                           rights to garnish any information on that person
                           and allows you to mess up his/her credit rating
                           and allows you to seize properties, assets, and
                           more commonly, wages. The other way is to pay
                           for a private investigator who will do these things
                           for you. You can always find one that'll charge
                           $0 if not collected.
           money.

10/31   I remember the days when soda was a spam-free zone.
        \_ s/soda/the Internet/
        \_ I remember when there wasn't a soda or an internet.  We still had
           spam though.

10/31   How come my spamassassin questions are getting deleted?
        \_ IFILE!  IFILE!  IFILE is the STANDARD!
        \_ Does anyone have the SA plugin for ED!?  ED! is the STANDARD!

10/31   Spammers have gotten a LOT smarter and have been using things
        like ViaTgra instead of Viagra in their subjects, etc. The more
        I think about this the more I think we're losing the war. It's like
        the virus/anti-virus co-evolution. There will always be a few
        virus that gets through the filter and screw us up majorly.
        \_ IFILE!
        \_ Somebody screw us up the bomb!
        \_ No, the more they use non-English words and misspellings the
           less it looks like real email and the easier it is to filter.
           The fact they they do such things means the good guys are winning
           and winning big.
           \_ "These latest attacks show the terrorists are becoming more
               desperate."
              \_ Nice try but no relationship.
           \_ exactly.
        \_ There was an interesting article I found a few days ago, on
           networks of subverted zombie machines acting as distributed,
           dynamic spam sources, web proxies/gateways and content sources,
           and even DNS servers (auto-switching themselves to new IPs from
           a pool of controlled hosts.)  'ViaTgra' is soon to become the
           very least of your problems when dealing with spam.  If you're
           interested, mail me and I'll dig up some articles.  -John

10/31   Can someone recommend a very small vga monitor?  I'm looking
        for something that I can hook up to a kvm switch as a combination
        X11 and CLI console for two FreeBSD boxes, but which should be
        tiny enough to just sit in a corner and not bother anyone.  Ideally
        flat screen--small laptop screen size would be optimal.  -John
        \_ I think you want one of those things they have for POS in retail
           stores.  Don't know where you'd get one though.
                \_ Something like that--what'd be perfect is a subnotebook-
                   sized monitor (like the Libretto or Vaio Picturebook)