Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2003:October:27 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2003/10/27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:10800 Activity:nil
10/25   Is there a command line equivalent (and not a wrapper script or
        similar) of
        \_ unable to connect to <DEAD><DEAD> (115: Operation now in progress)
           \_ o-kay...was that meant to be informative?
              \_ thats what it said when i put in my domain.
2003/10/27 [Computer/SW/Languages/JavaScript] UID:10801 Activity:kinda low
10/25   To the guy who was trying to do weird slant-box effects with CSS
        \_ cool, thanks. -phuqm
        \_ YMALTR  --gabriel
           \_ WTFDTASF?
              \_ You Might Also Like To Read...   Just a guess.     -mice
             \_ HMWWAWCIAWCCW?
                \_ dont you mean HMWWAWCCIAWCCCW? --gabriel
                   \_ You fail. And even worse, everyone knows you failed.
                   \_ I gave it some thought and decided it should be 1 word.
                      \_ I think this is the correct dictionary usage. -mice
                      \_ Ahh, of course.  My bad. --gabriel
2003/10/27 [Recreation/Food] UID:10802 Activity:nil
10/25   Restaurant recommendations in Walnut Creek area?
        \_ Postino, in Lafayette. Left Bank, in Pleasant Hill.
        \_ La Piazza in Orinda
        \_ Burger King near the 4.
        \_ Petar's for Central European/German, in Lafayette
        \_ modest eats: primos pizza in alamo/danville;
           the magic garlic in w.c. on north main
        \_ my wife's cooking.  I love my wife's cooking!  :-)
2003/10/27 [Politics/Domestic, Reference/RealEstate] UID:10803 Activity:nil
10/25   Does anyone here have a good video newsfeed for the fires down in
        San Diego? I've got family down there, and local news has been
        depressingly lacking.  --erikred
        \_ no, but here are some photos from hillcrest:
        \_ No but every morning my car is covered in ash. -50 miles from fires.
        \_ maybe they'll burn down a few nice Republican houses and let us
           poor schmucks have a chance at getting property in the nice
           SD area.
           \_ Talk about flame-bait...
              \_ Someone needs to break your legs.  Nothing personal.
           \_ yeah, the Berkeley Hills fire really made for cheap real
              estate in Hiller Highlands.  -tom
2003/10/27 [Reference/Languages] UID:10804 Activity:low
10/27   Jesus actor struck by lightning
        \_ So was the director or someone like that.  And?  This is going to
           be one of the most hyped yet least watched movies in a long time.
           Everything is in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, or some third language
           I can't remember right now, with no subtitles, voice over, etc.
           It's going to be a huge box office bomb.
           \_ it's being released subtitled
           \_ Are you saying you're not fluent in spoken Aramaic?  Look,
              not everyone is a stupid and ignorant as you are.
              \_ Nice one, good flame.
                 \_ What's amazing is that there is a flame below only
                    slightly less absurd than mine that is not apparently
           \_ Someone on the set has been struck by lightning twice. If you
              can't see the irony of being struck by lightning multiple
              times while making a controversial film about the death of
              Jesus, I weep for you.
              \_ I for one appreciated it.
              \_ A lot of motd people are seriously irony impaired.
                 \_ ^irony^ -jon
           \_ Those Romans spoke a crazy language called Latin.  You may have
              heard of it.  And if you don't know the story, it's pretty easy to
              brush up on it.  It covers about 12 hours in the life of Christ.
              That's less than 20 pages in the Bible if you want to brush up on
              the storyline. -emarkp
                \_ the new yorker had an interesting piece on the upcoming
                   movie release, here is a FREE REPUBLIC !!!!!!!!!!!
                   reposting of the article:
          - danh
           \_ I think the original idea of using Aramaic and Latin without
              subtitles was awesome!  I wish they had stuck to their guns on
              this. -- ilyas
              \_ I'll bet you loved Quest For Fire.
                 \_ What now? -- ilyas
2003/10/27 [Uncategorized] UID:10805 Activity:nil
10/26   If I have a counter-flow heat exchanger, do I get better dH if
        the flow is laminar or turbulent?  TIA.
        \_ turbulent
2003/10/27 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:10806 Activity:nil
10/27   Is there an upgrade for SpamAssassin that soda hasn't installed?
        Its been missing a lot lately...
        \_ Trying to use SpamAssassin is like trying to mow weeds and hope
           they don't grow back. I don't understand why we can't attack the
           SOURCE of the problem, like ISPs allowing only a certain number
           of letters received from a certain IP or email address within
           24 hours (curtailing the # of spams) or charging for outgoing
           mail, etc etc.
           \_ We need a change to SMTP that takes the burden off the receiver
              and requires the sender to keep a presence up.  SMTP was based
              on a world of unreliable connections, which is an obselete view.
              Requiring the sender to stick around would go a long way to
              facilitate blocking spam. --scotsman
               \_ This is the most intelligent thing i've every heard said
                  in regards to fighting spam.  It's too bad legacy issues
                  are so hard to overcome.
           \_ Because there are legitimate reasons to send large amounts
              of mail, and spammers can spread out their spamming among
              thousands of IPs if it turns out to be profitable to do so.
              As for charging for outgoing mail, that wouldn't help at all,
              since spammers are using other people's machines.  -tom
           \_ ISP isn't the source of the problem. It's the spammers. Go
              attack them.
        \_ /csua/bin/ifile*
                :0 fBw
                | ifile.inject-learn.header

                :0 fwh
                * ^X-Ifile-Hint: SPAM
           Best thing since peanut butter.  If you're interested I'll create
           a whole tutorial for pine users.
           \_ Yes, please.
           \_ and for mh users?
              \_ I figure they're smart enough to figure it out on their
                 own.  I sure as hell am not.  /csua/tmp/ifile_tutorial
                 \_ What if they're lazy?
        \_ Are you customizing scores in your user_prefs file?
        \_ I love soda.  I was just about to post starting this exact thread
           and here it was posted for me already.  to answer the user_pref Q
           Yes, I occasionally do that but it is not worth the effort to be
           continually changing the user_prefs file.  Spam changes to avoid
           filters and someone should put together an "updated" rule set to
           catch the latest work arounds, that i can just "upgrade" to.  For
           example, Spam now says "VI AGRA" or VAIGRA instead of VIAGRA.
           this should be caught in the new set.  I also pipe my uncaught
           spam through the spamassassin "learn" every now and then.  It
           does not seem to work well.  I seriously doubt that ifile works any
           better since but i am going to look in to the inject-learn thang
           above.  kthanks.
                \_ my experience is that ifile caught less spam and had more
                   false positives than spamassassin.  -tom
2003/10/27-28 [Science, Politics] UID:10807 Activity:low
10/27   I am looking for one Cal Berkeley "True Blue" t-shirt w/ the Power
        Bar logo on the back. These were given out for free to student's
        who bought the CAL football season ticket.  Offering $15 OBO.
        Please email eyip.  Thx.
        \_ is this not the same shirt you can buy for $13 on
           \_ No, that one doesnt have the red Power Bar logo in the back.
              \_ ok, why you're so insistent on having a corporate logo
                 on your back is beyond me, but good luck in your search
                 \_ he's a slave to the Man.
2003/10/27-28 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:10808 Activity:nil
10/27   Anyone here taken the GRE subject test in CS lately?  I'm wondering
        how similar it is to the "sample test" published by the GRE folks,
        which is a full decade old.  Also, has anyone tried to take a GRE
        subject test via "standby" (i.e. show up with cash, see if there's
        room at the testing site)?  P.S. I hate ETS.
        \_ The sample test was not revoltingly different from the real thing
           or anything. Of course they don't cover the exact same specific
           per-question topics on the sample test, but the format is the same
           and the general distribution of topics is similar enough. See
           the outline ETS puts out for a full list of topics, since some
           of them are rare enough to not show up on most tests, sample test
           included. -alexf
        \_ speaking of hating ETS, never trust those fuckers to send your
           scores anywhere.  Always call up the place they were supposed to
           be sent to make sure they really sent them.  I've seen ETS
           not send scores, and of course the grad school will assume it's
           your fault.
        \_ no, we're all old bitter alums who took that sample test when it
           was the real test 5 years earlier.
        \_ I thought they discontinued GRE because of cheating in India
           (half of the schools had solutions to the LATEST tests for the
            past couple of years allowing Indians to have really high scores)
           \_ They only cancelled a couple of test dates. It's back now.
2003/10/27-30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10809 Activity:nil
10/27   Extracted from below: /csua/tmp/ifile_tutorial
2003/10/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:10810 Activity:nil
10/27   Where can I get a list of Solaris exit code meanings?
        I am interested in 9, 10, and 11... Thanks!! I know my
        program is not returning those, so something is setting it..
        \_ /usr/include/errno.h
           \_ exit codes, not error codes
        \_ man siginfo and better yet: /usr/include/sys/signal.h
           \_ sigh
        \_ wow. both answers totally miss the mark. clever!
           here's my attempt:
         "\_ try looking at /etc/fstab". -ali.
           \_ I can do better, "did you check /etc/nsswitch.conf?"
              \_ /usr/pub/ascii
                 \_ good one, but to be truly great you'd have to direct
                    the op to the octal section.
        \_ /usr/include/sys/errno.h
           Why do you give an answer if you don't really know it?
           \_ exit codes, not error codes
        \_ man program, look under heading called EXIT STATUS
2003/10/27 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:10811 Activity:nil
10/27   Stay in school, kids. Here is salary vs education for sysadmins
        from your latest SAN survey:
        PhD 70080
        MS 69739
        BS 64029
        Some College 60853
        HS 53900
        The numbers get even more pronounced after 10+ years experience.
        \_ And SANS is such a unbiased organization.
        \_ PhD is USELESS then. Poor nweaver, dpetrou, paolos, etc. who are
           isolated in the ivory tower. You guys want a job? Make me coffee.
           \_ No, the closest you can get is that PhD is "USELESS" compared
              to a masters for sysadmins.  The above data is pretty useless
              without standard deviations or similar.  --Jon
                \_ so I don't see how wasting 4-5 more years in school and
                   making marginally more than the other people is not
                   considered useless.
                   \_ if you get a PhD and wind up doing system administration,
                      it's fair to say that your PhD is largely useless.
                      System administration is a craft, not an academic
                      discipline.  -tom
              \_ Too much info to put in the motd. The whole thing is
                 online at
2003/10/27 [Recreation/Sports] UID:10812 Activity:moderate
10/27   What kind of an offense does the Cal Bears football team run?
        \_ The non-Holmoe kind?
           \_ what's the run/pass ratio?  Do they throw deep a lot?
              short passes?  pro-set?  two TE sets?  multiple WRs?
              Sorry, I haven't watched a game in ages.
              \_ They run the wishbone, and run it down the gut!
                 Passing is for pussies.
                 \_ why not single wing?
              \_ I would call it "west-coast", although Tedford has a lot
                 of wrinkles of his own.  The passes are a little further
                 out than typical west-coast offense, but not too many bombs.
                 Usually one back, one TE, three wide; occasionally two
                 TE, or two wide plus TE and fullback.  Lately it's been a
                 lot of running, probably 60-40 or even 65-35.  -tom
                 \_ thanks tom.
        \_ Sexual offense against women on campus.
2003/10/27-28 [Reference/BayArea, Recreation/Media] UID:10813 Activity:nil
10/27   Support your fellow Sodans!  watch their movies!
        "Xtremely Xtreme" starring scotsman and shac will be playing at
        the Roxie Theater in SF, tonight (Monday) at 7pm and 9:30pm
        and again at 7pm on Wednesday.  Tickets are $7.  See you there! -brain
        \_ Is it anything like Extreme Teen?
           \_ it's kind of like the E! True Hollywood Story, about a reality
              show called "Xtremely Xtreme."  it's 10 minutes long and has
              screaming and a lesbian beat poet.  Try it you'll like it!
              Note that it WILL sell out so plan to arrive early.  There will
              of course be other shorts playing as well.  But vote for mine
              anyway!                                   -brain
2003/10/27 [Recreation/Activities, Recreation/Travel] UID:10814 Activity:nil
10/27   Anybody been to New Zealand?  From the various web sites it looks
        like a beautiful country.  I thought that it was mostly desert like
        Australia. But it has beautiful mountains and snow.  Not something
        I expect from an island in the pacific.  I'm looking for a vacation
        spot with my wife.  Thanks.
        \_ All of Middle Earth was filmed in New Zealand.
        \_ Yeah get with the times. NZ is the latest faddy trendy spot. All
           the cool people have been going there lately.
                \_ why don't you go to Algeria.  totally not trendy
        \_ Sure.  why not.  go.
        \_ I'd recommend the South Island, which is much less populated and is
           where most of the LoTR was shot.  Its getting into summer there
           right now, so the snow won't be around and the ticket prices will
           be at their peak ($1200 for coach, usually).  The North Island has
           Auckland, which I wasn't all that fond of...but it does have lots
           of rain forest and some of the most beautiful beaches you'll see
           outside of Hawaii.
        \_ New Zealand was great, I also reccomend south island.
        \_ Can I find any hobbitses there?
2003/10/27-28 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:10815 Activity:nil
10/27   Is there any program or script that will overlay text titles or
        headers on top of a postscript file?  mpage and a2ps have these
        options but they only seem to work on text files.  thanks.
2003/10/27-28 [Reference/Tax] UID:10823 Activity:nil
        \_ pretty insane huh?  I haven't seen blue sky in 4 days.  For
           full picture, go here:  -nivra
        \- it's ze END UF DAYS! -ahnold
           \_ Well, I guess when he takes over it really will be the end
              of the world.  Say your prayers everyone...
              \_ At least he won't be creating a fire tax, a death tax, a
                 your-home-got-burned-down tax, and a no-blue-sky tax.  I
                 didn't vote for him but it's still better than what we had.
                 \_ Yeah, no kidding.  Has anyone else renewed their
                    car registration yet?  Mine was $612.
2003/10/27-28 [Finance/Investment] UID:10824 Activity:high
        This is pretty neat.  $10k to open a FDIC insured world currency
        deposit account.  Buy say Australian dollars which has 3.9% interest
        rate and is also likely to rise against US$ (Australia is a nation
        of miners, and China is sucking away supplies of all kind of basic
        \_ shut up, cmlee.
        \_ You can also buy renmibi, if you are into that sort of thing.
        \_ Damn it where were you a year and a half ago when i was asking
           about buying foreign currencies.  I could have made like 25%.
           umm, i mean "thanks, good link."
           \_ Buying gold or gold stocks is pretty much a proxy for
              the same thing.
              \_ It plays on similar trends, but I think the Australian
                 dollar would have more upside and less volatility.
                 Look at the chart for the past year, for example, more
                 volatility for gold:
        \_ You want to get into arbitrage?  Why not just write me a check for
           your entire net worth?  At least I'll put your money to good use.
           \_ I don't see what's so dangerous about buying some foreign
              currency.  Nobody's trying to be a professional trader who
              currency.  Nobody's trying to be a professional trader that
              trades everyday.  Some of us have family, properties
              and assets overseas and we are forced to think about
              exchange rates in any case.  Also, holding your money in US
              dollars is just as much a gamble as holding it in another
              currency.  You are forced to "place a bet" no matter what.
              \_ Because most of your goods and services go up and down with
                 your local currency.  Exchange rates can change much faster
                 relative to your local buying power, thus keeping all your
                 money in the same currency as the country you live in is
                 always safer for the average person than buying currency
                 from somewhere else that you're not watching everyday.
                 \_ You are right, but not all of us plan to be here
                    always, and some of us want to buy property, invest,
                    support family, etc. in other countries.  It's also
                    a good way to diversify (No one is suggesting that you
                    use your entire nest egg to buy Australian dollars).
                    Also, currency market is less than a free market and
                    very much influenced by government fiscal policies,
                    and because of that, it's long term trend is more
                    predictable, and currently, the trend for the dollar
                    is down, in my opinion.
                    \_ you plan to live in some other country?  what for?
                       \_ Why not?  We didn't become leader of the world
        \_ Anyone know why the 3-month, 6-mo., and 9-mo. Australian CD's
           have the same Interest Rate(3.88%), yet have differing APY's?
           The 3mo: 3.93%, 6mo: 3.91%, 9mo: 3.89%  Is it b/c the 3mo.
           compounds every 3mo, whereas the 9mo. only every 9mo?   -nivra
                    \_ you plan to live in some other country?  what for?
                          by staying at home.
2003/10/27 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:29588 Activity:nil
10/25   I guess we've dropped 150 billions to Iraq for the wrong reason:
2003/10/27 [Uncategorized] UID:29589 Activity:nil
10/25   Brain, you fucking rock.  --scotsman
2019/08/22 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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