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| 2003/9/20-21 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:10262 Activity:high |
9/19 I have filtered my mailbox with
formail -s spamassassin < mailbox > mailbox.filtered
Next how do I process the mailbox.filtered file with my procmail
ruleset to get it to sort the messages based on the SpamAssassin
score?
\_ Something with formail and procmail itself, I'd imagine.
\_ Use spamc instead of running spamassassin; it's much faster (it
uses the persistent running spamassassin daemon on soda).
\_ you can use mutt, "tag" all messages flagged as spam,
"save all tagged messages" to a folder. I am too lazy
to look up the exact keystrokes to do this right now.
I don't know what all these mh losers are talking about.
\_ oh! mh losers! I'm struck to the quick! You don't know what
the mh using uber cool rock stars are talking about because
you're using a toy to deal with your mail. MH users don't have
to say, "oh! its easy but I'm too lazy to look it up!" because
there's nothing to look up. All the mh tools work the same and
were designed from day 1 to work with each other as a total mail
handling package. Maybe you'll make better choices in your next
life. I wish you well.
\_ where do you live? I want to have sex with you.
\_ I wouldn't want to be unfaithful to yermom. Best wishes.
\_ soda's mutt has sa-score sort/reverse-sort capabilities.
use (o)rder or reverse-(O)rder interactively, or see
~jwang/.muttrc for useful folder-hooks.
\_ Thanks, I'll check that out but right now I want to
\_ Thanks, I'll check that out but right now I wasn to
delete or move stuff flagged as spam to a spam folder.
I need to do this to 1000+ messages so I dont want to
use mutt.
\_ Um. Mutt's plenty fast. I routinely do operations on
use mutt.
thousands of messages.
\_ Real Men(c) use mh. Once you've used the real thing, you'll
never go back.
\_ Right, cuz you'll be so fucking frustrated that you'll
never log in again.
\_ Hmmm... yeah. The core commands you need to know:
next: shows you the next messsage
prev: show you the previous message
show: shows you the current message
repl: replies to current message
forw: forwards current message
Yeah, this is hard. To quote yermom, "Unix is hard!
Let's go shopping!" Although for dunderheads like
yourself, there are pretty little GUI frontends so
\_ don't forget comp
you don't have to worry your pretty little head with
all those self descriptive 4 letter commands.
\_ don't forget comp
\_ oh yeah, forgot. Knowing how to compose an email
is probably a good idea.
\_ If it's that simple, Real Men(c) have no business
using it.
\_ We're Powerful(c), not stupid. MH is easy *and*
powerful *and* flexible since all the tools follow
the unix philosophy of chaining tools that each
do one thing and do it well without bloat.
do one thing and do it well without bloat.
\_ Technically, you seem pretty sharp...pop
culturally, you're a freaking moron.
Although....that's not such a bad trade-off.
\_ Pop culturally? Ok, I'll bite. How so?
\_ Can someone answer my question! How do I send a
mailbox marked up my SpamAssassin through my
procmail sorting rules? -OP
\_ We're in a mail program flame war. Since they
all integrate with procmail that's not very
interesting, is it? In mh you'd do something
like:
refile `pick -subject SPAM +inbox` +spamfolder
This assumes you've allowed spamassassin to
rewrite your subject lines. Normally, you'd not
need to do this because you'd sort from procmail
after spamassassin has done it's job in an
earlier procmail recipe. Another mh convert is
born... welcome to the fold.
\- I dont want to have my mail spool exploded
into different message and then have to repack
them.
\_ Why would you repack your mailspool? The
idea is to get away from the dangerous
and difficult to manage one-file mailspool.
You shouldn't *want* a mailspool file. But
if you really must, just snarf each message
in a loop (I suggest perl) and simply pipe
it through procmail. I don't know wtf psb
is trying to tell you to do down below.
\- E_TOOSHORT
in a loop (I suggest perl) and simply pipe
it through procmail. I don't know wtf psb
is trying to tell you to do down below.
\- E_TOOSHORT
\_ No, it just doesn't make sense to
run your mbox through that mess
when there are already perfectly
good tools and APIs available. I
can read your code. I just wouldnt
do something that insane. --tall
\- i'd either use mailagent or flex but there
use mutt.
all those self descriptive 4 letter commands.
is sort of a klugy way by doing something
like this:
( echo 'set screen=10000' ; echo 'h 1-$' ; echo x ) |
mail -f mbox.spamc | grep SPAM | awk '{print $1}' |
(tr or sed ... something to just keep the numbers)
and then run the command again but pass the list of
message numbers to "echo d <>" | mail ... you will
have to do something sane with newlines.
the details depended on mailrc settings and which
mail program. but the approach generalizes.--psb |
| 2003/9/20-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:10263 Activity:nil |
9/19 What's the easiest way to replace text strings in a binary file?
I have a feeling that sed can't be used with binary files...
\- uh you can try emacs. anymore is probably beyond the scope of wall.
\_ perl -pi -e 's/foo/bar/g' is probably pretty safe;
add in a -0777 first if you want to be paranoid
\_ If you're replacing same-size strings, any hex editor will do. If
you're shrinking them, then fill with spaces. If you're growing,
you might break something if it's an executable or some self
referenced data file like a zip.
\_ spaces? Why not null chars?
\_ because code accessing those strings may run into trouble
with nulls/
\_ Arrr - nold for California Governor!
\_ Avast Right-Wing Conspiracy! |
| 2003/9/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:10264 Activity:nil |
9/20 http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030919-105619-9614r.htm Poor bastard. BushCo wouldn't have nailed him if he wasn't Muslim. |
| 2003/9/20-21 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:10265 Activity:nil |
9/20 Is it possible to run have a linux box export files via NFS over
ssh tunnels? I tried doing this by tunneling the ports that
nfsd uses but it didn't work. Any suggestions on how to do this
or the equivalent? Thanks.
\_ only if you either forward a ton of ports and replace alot of
rpc stuff.. here's a starter, but remember that you will take
a performance hit -shac
http://www.math.ualberta.ca/imaging/snfs
\_ Thanks, I take a look at this.
\_ are you using nfs via udp or tcp?
\_ I tried it with both udp and tcp ports without success.
\_ You made tunnels in both directions?
\_ Why both directions? I just tunnelled the relevant daemons.
\_ just tunnel IP over ssh and make life easier
\_ What do you mean "tunnel IP over ssh"? Is this a joke? |
| 2003/9/20-21 [Transportation/Car, Computer/HW/Printer] UID:10266 Activity:nil |
9/20 This is beautiful. Any of you own HP stock? Friends work there?
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11542
\_ How else are the HP execs going to take the Passage to India
quickly in style and comfort?
\_ Carly sucks, but how do they figure that planes registered to
"GC AIR LLC" in Anaheim are owned by HP? --dim |
| 2003/9/20-21 [Finance/Banking] UID:10267 Activity:nil |
9/20 How's it work in the US with life insurance--do you have separate
work and private insurances like here (assuming you're employed)
and count the private one as more of a savings plan? Curious
because of all the insurance-related stuff on the net wealth thread
below. -John
\_ Using life insurance as a savings plan is a *really* bad way to
'invest'. You can *always* do better by just getting long term
CD's and similar low yield but safe investments.
\_ Sure, no argument there. My point was just that here
(Switzerland) the whole 'savings' thing is sold as a major
side effect of having, well, life insurance. Which is a
bit lame, seeing as how most plans run about 20-30 years,
and for the first 5-10, if you withdraw, you actually
end up paying penalties instead of getting anything back.
\_ It's sold the same way here but it's an equally bad
idea no matter what country you're in.
\- if you have no dependents, why do you have
life insurance?
\_ The way it works is you get a certain amount
(CHF 5k/year) that goes off your taxes, towards
your insurance for a certain amount (say 200k.)
For the first x years, you have a deficit, but
then you start to accrue principal and interest.
If you croak before the end of the time the
insurance runs, you get the full amount paid.
After you're done, you can withdraw the principal
plus interest. It has a lot of disadvantages,
such as being very inflexible. Basically, it's
considered as an add-on to your pension. -John
\_ some policies are written in such a way that you
can withdraw money from them, in effect they become
an investment vehicle, although a very poor one.
\_ Is that the same as an annuity? Isn't that the
thing where they give a good return but are
betting that you die before getting the $?
\_ An annuity is just any annual income derived
from investment. The insurance above is
called 'whole' life, as opposed to 'term'
life (which is simply a monthly fee for
insurance.) [formatd]
called 'whole' life, as opposed to 'term' life
(which is simply a monthly fee for insurance.) |
| 2003/9/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/President, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:10268 Activity:nil |
9/20 These Are Historic Times - Is it to be Lincoln or Sisyphus?
http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson091903.asp |
| 2003/9/20-23 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:10269 Activity:kinda low |
9/20 Christ, I have gotten literally hundreds of these emails purporting
to be a Microsoft patch. I am running SpamAssassin, but this is well
crafted. Yet, I read it is "easy to filter out" if you are running
a mail server. Cannot soda block this?
\_ It would indeed be "easy" to block this at a server level, but, to
\_ The following rules seem to work for me:
:0 w:
* ^Subject:.*(Microsoft|Net).*(Security|Critical|Patch).*
/dev/null
:0 Dw:
* ^SUBJECT.*
/dev/null
\_ Maybe I'm reading this wrong but wouldn't this second one
delete all your mail sight unseen?
\_ hmm... I guess that's one way to keep all the spam out
\_ D -> case sensitive match. Most of the M$ spam uses
SUBJECT: as the subject header, so I just trash that.
Mail that uses Subject: as the subject header still
gets through.
\_ The current outbreak finally got me to get procmail going.
Here's a recipe I got from Usenet that trashes all messages
with executable attachments:
:0B
* ^Content-[-a-z0-9_]+:.*($[ ].*)*=[ ]*($[ ]+)*"?[^\
"]*\.(ad[ep]|asd|asx|bat|chm|cil|cmd|com|dat|dll|dot|eml|exe|hlp|hta|inf|jse?|ln\
k|md[aew]|ms[ip]|ocx|pif|p[lm]|p[po]t|pps|reg|sc[rt]|sh[bs]|vb[se]?|wm[szd]|ws[c\
efh]|xl[wt]|\{[0-9a-f-]+\})\>
/dev/null
\_ As long as you're going to filter every obscure .ext you might
as well toss in .btm.
go back to the old mantra, this is a volunteer-run machine. Keeping
up with spam/virus screen has become a full time position in many
organizations. With the csua, as is stated on the application form,
you're expected to have some sort of a clue on how to deal with this
stuff. Also, to start a new mantra, server side email screening
attempts almost always piss off more people than they please. Read
up on procmail. --scotsman
\_ otoh, it's in a sysadmin's interest to block the major windows
worms, because there are bound to be people who can't learn
procmail in the hour in might take for their quotas to fill up.
besides, worm mail is a specific target that's easy enough to
handle and there isn't a new outbreak every day.
\_ Doesn't matter. Slippery slope and all that. Take some
personal responsibility (remember the part about having some
sort of clue?), educate yourself, and be glad you have access
to a machine like this. There are some incredible technical/
personal/professional networking oppurtunities through the
csua, but not when everyone gets bitchy because of inflated
expectations. --scotsman
\_ You're sounding very libertarian or republican with all
that BushCo talk of personal responsibility.
\_ there's a wide distinction between a student
organisation at a university and the federal
government. Amusing troll, though. --scotsman
\_ So now you're saying we should take personal
responsibility at the personal level but at the
government level we should make someone else take
care of us? Call it a troll if you like. It doesn't
change the fact that you were espousing libertarian
ideals and then knee-jerked away when caught.
\_ Hardly. When you signed on to this organisation,
you agreed to clauses that said basically you
wouldn't be a pest. My personal politics do
not enter into this discussion at all. My views
of civic governance have next to no relation to
my view of the csua (of which I was a governing
member for 3[?] semesters. --scotsman
\_ Asking the csua admins to filter some crap is
helpful to everyone, not being a pest. You
did a nice dance but you're still a libertarian
but I think you're still ok despite that.
\_ procmail recipe.
\_ The following rules seem to work for me:
:0 w:
* ^Subject:.*(Microsoft|Net).*(Security|Critical|Patch).*
/dev/null
:0 Dw:
* ^SUBJECT.*
/dev/null
\_ Maybe I'm reading this wrong but wouldn't this second one
delete all your mail sight unseen?
\_ hmm... I guess that's one way to keep all the spam out
\_ D -> case sensitive match. Most of the M$ spam uses
SUBJECT: as the subject header, so I just trash that.
Mail that uses Subject: as the subject header still
gets through.
\_ The current outbreak finally got me to get procmail going.
Here's a recipe I got from Usenet that trashes all messages
with executable attachments:
:0B
* ^Content-[-a-z0-9_]+:.*($[ ].*)*=[ ]*($[ ]+)*"?[^\
"]*\.(ad[ep]|asd|asx|bat|chm|cil|cmd|com|dat|dll|dot|eml|exe|hlp|hta|inf|jse?|ln\
k|md[aew]|ms[ip]|ocx|pif|p[lm]|p[po]t|pps|reg|sc[rt]|sh[bs]|vb[se]?|wm[szd]|ws[c\
efh]|xl[wt]|\{[0-9a-f-]+\})\>
/dev/null
\_ As long as you're going to filter every obscure .ext you might
as well toss in .btm. |
| 2003/9/20 [Uncategorized] UID:29541 Activity:nil |
9/19 Anyone read Bellcurve? Does it actually tell you which race has
a higher IQ? |
| 2003/9/20 [Uncategorized] UID:29542 Activity:nil |
9/19 How much funding is enough for the Pentagon? |
| 2003/9/20 [Uncategorized] UID:29543 Activity:nil |
9/19 On a related note, has anyone read "Da Vince Code"? Is it as
good as everyone is raving? |
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